Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2009 December 17

= December 17 =

my home page has been hijacked by a wikipedia page
hi, for about 10 days, my home page has been stuck on the wikipedia page for curtis lemay. i've removed my cookies, and i've tried to reset my home page endless times. have you set something in my software?Oathlaw (talk) 00:26, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * What browser are you using?  Intelligent  sium  00:27, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Helpme question at User talk:Scubeesnax
I need wider input on a question pertaining to media files (particularly video), as neither I no one in IRC seems to know much about them. Thanks, Ks0stm (T•C•G) 00:44, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * As I said on that page, the file is in "MIME type: video/mp2t". According to Creation_and_usage_of_media_files, all video files must be in Theora.  Intelligent  sium  00:46, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * You might like to ask this question at Wikipedia talk:Creation and usage of media files. -- Phantom Steve /talk &#124;contribs \ 01:29, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * RESOLVED! Thanks to your help, I was able to download the free ffmpeg2theora-0.25.exe software and convert my mpeg4 and flv files to ogv.  This link, provided by Intelligentsium, also was invaluable Commons:Help:Converting video.  The videos played perfectly first try!  THANKS FOLKS!!! Eric. -- Scubeesnax (talk) 03:33, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

How do Videos/Movies work?
Here's the Wikipedia page onto which I am trying to put a video...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Lozano

Here's the code for the video on this page...

File:Pathfinders_to_Peace.ogg|right|thumb|The Shinnyo-en Foundation presents Maria Shriver with its 2009 "Pathfinders to Peace" Award. (NOTE: It's in the " " brackets)

--

EXAMPLE:



(NOTE: it does not play, unless you download it)

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Here's the code for a video from Barack Obama's page... (it has a play button and plays perfectly!)

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File:20090124 WeeklyAddress.ogv|left|thumb|Obama presents his first weekly address as President of the United States, discussing the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009. (NOTE: It's in the " " brackets)

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EXAMPLE:



See how his video has a play button and a screen capture shot and mine is just a simple listing of the filename? Mine is in the right format, and it will actually play if you download it, but it's missing the play button and the screen shot image. It almost looks like the play button is part of the art that's uploaded at the time the movie is uploaded. Here's the master of Obama's movie...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:20090124_WeeklyAddress.ogv

I'm very confused.

Many, many videos are uploaded to Wikipedia everyday. They seem to work great.

I thought ogg was just the updated standard of ogv format. Both are Theora. Do you know how I can find expert advice on this topic, ie. how to convert a file to the correct format for Wikipedia use?

For your advice, I just want to say Thank You! and I appreciate your help.

Eric. -- Scubeesnax (talk) 00:58, 17 December 2009 (UTC)


 * This question is a duplicate of the one directly above.  Intelligent  sium  01:01, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * RESOLVED! Thanks to your help, I was able to download the free ffmpeg2theora-0.25.exe software and convert my mpeg4 and flv files to ogv.  This link, provided by Intelligentsium, also was invaluable Commons:Help:Converting video.  The videos played perfectly first try!  THANKS FOLKS!!! Eric. -- Scubeesnax (talk) 03:32, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Where do I go to start this discussion?
As I look through the various discussion pages that might deal with this I am just not sure where I should start so your help will be appreciated.

Today I noticed that User:Rama has begun downloading his own line drawings like this one File:Nigel Hawthorne.jpg of various actors into the infoboxes on their wikipages. Now I have been away from wikipedia editing for awhile and, even when I was here, I know that images are a tough item to understand as to what is okay and what is not.

I have the following concerns regarding these.
 * 1) I know that the rules for what picture of an actor is okay for an infobox are specific (and sometimes contentious) and I don't know whether these meet those criteria.
 * 2) They only look marginally like the actors that they are meant to portray (I know that this is in the eye of the beholder and others may disagree.) But this may cause confusion for other readers.
 * 3) They seem to be promoting this editors work as an artist. I know that they are not signed but why would we use this artists drawings over anyone elses. So I fear that there may be a COI involved.

I don't know how much things may have changed or stayed the same since I have been away so I am only trying to find the right place to discuss my concerns. If these drawings are okay I will be happy to let them remain in the articles and apologize to Rama for causing any worry. Also, I am waiting until I know the proper venue to bring this discussion to before I inform Rama of it. In this I am trying to avoid any confusion for the editor about where they need to go to add their input. However, if you think I should inform them of this thread also just let me know and I will be happy to add a link to thei talk page to this thread. MarnetteD | Talk 02:32, 17 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Are the images being uploaded to en.wiki or to commons? that might influence the locus, as it were. You might also wish to refer to Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive585, where the same admin's interpretation of similar issues was discussed.


 * Besides the above (now archived) discussion (where, I should note, there was near unanimous consensus that there may have been problems with copying a photograph by drawing it; i.e. it isn't an original artwork, but a derivative one, but I digress), the appropriate noticeboards would either be WP:ANI, which is where that original discussion was, or perhaps Media copyright questions, which is more specifically geared towards these problems. -- Jayron  32  02:53, 17 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the input. I appreciate your help. MarnetteD | Talk 03:00, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

testicular torsion
what happen if the dead testicle is not removed post testicular torsion? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Reolmadrid (talk • contribs) 03:06, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

We cannot offer medical advice. Please see the medical disclaimer. Contact your General Practitioner. -- Phantom Steve /talk &#124;contribs \ 03:08, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't think this is necessarily a request for medical advice as much as simply a question about a medical condition. In any case, the point is moot; have you tried the Science section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.  Intelligent  sium  03:11, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * There is an article about Testicular torsion, have you checked that? -- Phantom Steve /<font color="#008000">talk &#124;<font color="#000080">contribs \ 09:55, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Image insertion in infobox Tabqa Dam
Hi, I am working on the article on the Tabqa Dam. I want to insert a location map in the infobox, in much the same way as was done in this article: Berg River Dam. However, when I copy the lines to insert the image from that article into the Tabqa Dam article and change all variables to the map for Syria, I only get a blank space. This also happens when I leave the copied info as it is, i.e. with the South Africa image. Can someone help me with this? Zoeperkoe (talk) 03:57, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * It worked for me. That's a handy trick I will have to use with other power station articles. Thanks for calling my attention to it. --Teratornis (talk) 04:32, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I tried exactly what you did, and it didn't show when I hit preview. That's one of the mysteries of computers and the internet, I assume. Anyway, thanks! Zoeperkoe (talk) 04:42, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Are you sure you typed exactly what I did? You could be off by one or two characters and it might break. Templates are brittle. Consider testing templates in a user sandbox page (such as User:Zoeperkoe/Sandbox), so you can save your tests to allow Help desk helpers to see exactly what you are doing. Testing in articles proper is undesirable because you don't want to save something when it previews incorrectly, but this prevents anyone else from helping you find your mistake. There aren't as many mysteries with computers as one might initially think. --Teratornis (talk) 20:24, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure I did, and the map still blanks in preview (but not in normal view), and it seems to do that sometimes in other articles I edit as well. Somewhere, there must be something wrong structurally. I think I'll try the sandbox feature sometime in the future; have so far not yet worked with it but it may be helpful, as you say. Zoeperkoe (talk) 20:48, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * It might be a browser problem. See WP:BROWSER. The first step in solving a computer mystery is determining whether the problem is on our end or the server's end. This can be hard to tell if one edits Wikipedia alone, on one computer, with nobody else's computer as a frame of reference. --Teratornis (talk) 23:47, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

It doesn't seem to be my computer. I have a similar problem on another computer as well. Sometimes the image is blank in normal view as well, but then it appears when I reload the page. Zoeperkoe (talk) 21:01, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Permission to use information on Wikipedia
This is not a specific question about the use of this site. I have a webpage called ihaveic.com. I have been citing your webpage and others as well, and it occured to me that I should get information. I have used your website for definitions of certain things pertaining to Interstitial Cystitis. I have paraphrased all of the definitions, but have also made a link to have people click on it to come to your page for the exact definition and other information within the definition I may not have included. I realize I should have asked you first for permission and for that I apologize. So I am asking for permission now. If you do not grant it to me I will start over and get new definitions from another webpage. But you can visit my site, and go to my glossary, surgeries, medications and About pages and see that I state that all definitions come from wikipedia.com and if they don't I will say what website they are from. You can also check the link I have for the first word and make sure it goes directly to your website. I am very sorry for not asking before. This is the first blog website I have had. I've had over 3,000 visitors and now have 95 users. I am sorry I did not think of this sooner, I was worried about getting correct information out there. I do love your website and I am able to find so many definitions that are easy to read that it's the main one I use. So I would like to have an answer back. If I have done anything wrong I do apologize, as I said I'm new to this, and I just want to make sure I'm doing things right, again I do apologize for not asking permission in the first place. I hope it's ok that I used your page. I look forward to hearing from you. Thank you Cathy Belair —Preceding unsigned comment added by Catwoman100780 (talk • contribs) 05:07, 17 December 2009 (UTC)


 * All contributions of text used to create articles on Wikipedia is released under the CC-BY-SA 3.0 License and the GFDL, meaning you do not have to ask for permission from Wikipedia to use it; however, the copyrighted sources used are still owned by their respected owners. The terms of use from the Wikimedia Foundation state "You can re-use content from Wikimedia projects freely, with the exception of content that is used under "fair use" exemptions, or similar exemptions of copyright law." I would recommend that you verify the information that you are using from this site from your webpage is sourced and verifiable. After all, it is the encyclopedia anyone can edit.

Pease read http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use under "Information for re-users" for further information. Kindly Calmer   Waters  05:48, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Deleting an article
How do I delete an article I have written? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Egyptiancotton (talk • contribs) 05:58, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Deletion must be carried out by administrators, but if you want to request deletion on an article to which you have been the only substantial contributor, you can place this tag: at the top of the page, and an admin will come and delete it. Gonzonoir (talk) 10:01, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Automatic link creation policy
Is there any part of Wikipedia's link structure that is automatically created? Are there bots running to detect and link dates, people, locations, etc? Or is everything done manually?

This is an important question for me, because I use Wikipedia for computer science research. I've tried looking through the documentation on bots, but this is pretty messy.

Thanks, Dave —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.217.240.32 (talk) 07:07, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * There are bots delinking dates following a discussion, but I'm one of the many people not happy about that one. In general links are made manually because whether something is linked depends on context. - Mgm|(talk) 13:29, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, is there something with more detail that I could read/cite about this?


 * A few points that may or may not be helpful for you:


 * I vaguely remember something about a some kind of bot or script that ran an algorithm to suggest terms that should be wikilinked, by analysing the text for rare words or terms that were prominent in a sentence and matched the title of an article. Sorry I couldn't find anything about it by searching though.  You might find someone who'd remember what I'm referring to by posting at Wikipedia talk:Linking, Wikipedia talk:Bots or Wikipedia talk:Scripts.  As far as I know, it's not widely used – I've no idea whether it was ever effective enough to be useful.


 * While wikilinks are not generally created automatically, some categories are. For example, User:OrphanBot finds articles to which few other articles link, then tags them with Template:Orphan, which automatically places the articles in Category:Orphaned articles.


 * There have been several tools created for refining wikilinks semi-automatically; see WikiProject Disambiguation/fixer.


 * There have been attempts to identify which articles are within the scope of wikiprojects automatically. See, for example, this edit, which was actually a false positive.


 * The tables at, for example, Wikiproject_Fungi are created automatically; see Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Using the bot


 * Hope you can find something helpful in that! Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 02:54, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

we want to purchase flags reprasenting each country
N/z. Fahnen - Gartner Ges.m.b.H

Fax: Tel:

Dear Sir,

We believe this above mentioned company is specialized in making flags for representing  countries.

If you have local representative in Sri Lanka may we have the contact to order some flags or any other convenient method of dealing with your company.

Thank you and looking forward to hear from you.

yours faithfully,

GALADARI HOTEL COLOMBO SRI LANKA.

e-mail: website: Tele. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.115.14.114 (talk) 07:16, 17 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our roughly three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. BencherliteTalk 09:47, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

I didn't find information about a town here in WV = Ronceverte ? Help?
I am looking for information about a town here in WV = Ronceverte all I found was << ==R== >>
 * Rainelle
 * Ravenswood
 * Reedsville
 * Reedy
 * Rhodell
 * Ridgeley
 * Ripley
 * Rivesville
 * Rowlesburg
 * Rupert>>

WHAT ABOUT The Town Of Ronceverte? It's near the Big WV State Fairgrounds in Fairlea? It's in Greenbrier County beside the Greenbrier River a few miles from Lewisburg, WV. From it not being here, I was worried that it had become a Ghost Town, LOL Seriously, what do I do yo get you to add it? I just Spoke to the WV Convention & Visitors' Bureau to confirm the Spelling above. FYI: —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.234.26.162 (talk) 15:26, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The article is at Ronceverte, West Virginia - were you browsing a list? Do you remember what the list title was? A link to the Ronceverte article may need to be added there. Gonzonoir (talk) 15:29, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * List of towns in West Virginia perhaps? --AndrewHowse (talk) 15:37, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * How obscure :) Have added Ronceverte, West Virginia, to that list. Gonzonoir (talk) 15:39, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Hold on, it's a city. See ... wait for it ... List of cities in West Virginia ! --AndrewHowse (talk) 15:41, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * [[Image:AROBAZE.png|20px]] Please do not include contact details in your questions. We are unable to provide answers by any off-wiki medium and this page is highly visible across the internet.  The details have been removed, but if you wish for them to be permanently removed from the page history, email [mailto:oversight-l@lists.wikimedia.org this address]. Gonzonoir (talk) 15:32, 17 December 2009 (UTC)


 * In all seriousness, does anyone happen to know of a better way to provide the "See also" functionality on pages such as these? The CompactTOC series doesn't appear to include any "See also" sections. distinguish doesn't quite do it either. --AndrewHowse (talk) 16:30, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Not clear what you are looking for, perhaps further or details? LeadSongDog <font color="red" face="Papyrus">come howl 16:59, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks; those led me to See also which I think might work. --AndrewHowse (talk) 17:18, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Searching within an article
Dear Wikipedia Reference Desk: Please be so kind as to tell me how to search within an article for a specific term or word. Thank you.17:11, 17 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.238.22.5 (talk)
 * Most browsers have a search function, often found at Ctrl-F. If you specify which browser you use, we could be more specific, or you could try the Reference Desk at WP:RD. --AndrewHowse (talk) 17:18, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Dumb Licensing Question
It's a mistake that File:Evolution_of_Homer.jpg is listed as both Fair Use and CC-BY-SA, right? occono (talk) 18:52, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's a mistake. It was changed by 190.31.52.226 with this edit without any explanation.  I have reverted the page to the original license tag.  --Mysdaao talk 18:59, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Wiki Foretold?
Wiki,

I recently read this passage by English author Douglas Adams, in his book The Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy, which clearly foretold Wikipedia.

Maybe it is time to put the words DONT PANIC on your front page? What do you think?

"In many of the more relaxed civilizations ... the Hitchiker's Guide has already supplanted the great Encyclopaedia Galactica as the standard repository of all knowledge and wisdom, for though it has many omissions and contains much that is apocryphal, or at least wildly inaccurate, it scores over the older, more pedestrian work in two important respects. First, it is [slightly] cheaper, and secondly it has the words DONT PANIC inscribed in large friendly letters on its cover."

Douglas Adams, The Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.183.140.33 (talk) 19:05, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't think the foretelling is clear, since the name is wrong for starters. If you want to change the Main Page, read all the links under WP:EIW - at which point you will probably be hard-pressed not to panic. Discussing this on the Help desk is pointless, it's like some passengers on a great ocean liner discussing a change of course. This isn't where those decisions get made. Incidentally, the Douglas Adams fans on Wikipedia congregate at WikiProject Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. --Teratornis (talk) 20:18, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * You're far from the first person to point out the connection... occono (talk) 22:13, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

When is the appropriate time to use strikeout ?
Civic Cat (talk) 19:14, 17 December 2009 (UTC)


 * It could be used on talk pages to revise your comments. Or, if you are on the talk page of an article, policy, or guideline, you could use it to suggest revisions to the article, policy, or guideline. --Jc3s5h (talk) 19:23, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Is it appropriate to use strikethrough when editing your own comments on talk pages. It is better not to modify your own previous comments at all because it can be confusing.  But if you decide to do this, use strikethrough using the guidelines at WP:REDACT.  You should never modify others' comments on talk pages, even with this method.  --Mysdaao talk 19:26, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. :-D Civic Cat (talk) 19:47, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! --Mysdaao talk 19:50, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * In keeping with WP:IAR, I think it's OK to edit the talk page comments of a new user when, for example, they include severe format errors that clearly did not have the result the new user was trying to achieve, and/or when format errors degrade the readability of the comments. But always mention what you did, in your follow-up content. And never change anyone's meaning. That's just my opinion. If a talk page comment is so messed up that it wastes the time of other users, then fixing the format would advance the project. --Teratornis (talk) 20:13, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Webfetti
I keep getting redirected to a Webfetti when I click links to your site.

Its annoying and intrusive. How can I get rid of this? I have run Spy-Bot Search and Destroy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.68.248.46 (talk) 19:27, 17 December 2009 (UTC)


 * If you are using Google or another search engine and find links to Wikipedia that take you to unrelated sites, then you have a virus or other malware. Consult a professional or ask at Reference desk/Computing. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 19:58, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * And see Pharming. --Teratornis (talk) 20:07, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Using the "search" function on your home page
re: using your "search" page...under the place where you enter your search terms, there are 2 links. One is labeled "search", and the other is labeled "go". What's the difference if I use one or the other? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.184.31.1 (talk) 19:53, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * If you click "Go" it will go directly to a page with the title you entered, if one exists. If it does not exist, it will load a list of pages with the search term entered.  If you press "Search" it will load a list of pages with the search term, whether or not a page with that title exists.  More information on this can be read at Searching.  --Mysdaao talk 20:02, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Profile
why was my  profile deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.5.11.39 (talk) 20:51, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia doesn't really use the term profile. Could you describe the problem you're seeing in a bit more detail please? --AndrewHowse (talk) 21:10, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * If the question is about a biographical article of which the IP user is the subject, the questioner should read WP:WWMPD, WP:BIO, and the links under WP:EIW. To expand on the first reply, on Wikipedia we generally do not use the word "profile" to refer to any of the usual suspects:
 * Biographical articles.
 * User pages.
 * Your user preferences.
 * Your account.
 * Please clarify what you mean by "profile". --Teratornis (talk) 23:42, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism
What is the longest time a vandalism has lasted on this site? <em style="font-family:Courier New;color:red">jc <em style="font-family:Courier New;color:green">iindyysgvxc  (my contributions) 21:47, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The information isn't really tracked and thus the "longest duration" of vandalism is probably unknown. Sorry. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  21:52, 17 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Not sure about the longest, but the most famous persistent vandalism was The Upper Peninula War article, which was an elaborate (and well done) long-lived hoax. -- B figura  (talk) 21:53, 17 December 2009 (UTC)


 * It was proposed for deletion after 5 days with a text making it clear that it was probably made up. It took another 8 days before it was deleted. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:07, 17 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Was that all? I thought I had read on BJAODN that it was up longer than that. Oh well. -- B figura  (talk) 23:11, 17 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Articles for deletion/Baldock Beer Disaster is about a hoax which lasted 18 months before being tagged as suspect, and deleted a month later. It was in the main page Did you know section when it was created in November 2005. The article was deleted at the title "Baldock Beer Disaster" without being userfied but copies can still be found in mirrors of Wikipedia. Wikipedia has a tradition of putting authentic but strange sounding articles on the main page on April Fools' Day. Ironically, at April Fool's Main Page/Featured Article/Archive 2007 the article was mentioned in this connection as an article readers might falsely think was a hoax! PrimeHunter (talk) 00:20, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 * See also User:Shii/Hoaxes. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:50, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The most indepth hoax I can remember was the Estonia history hoax from a few years ago. SOmeone invented a complete hoax history of a nation called "Estland" or something like that; it was very well done, and was hard to track down.  The entire mess covered dozens of articles, lasted some many months, and infected much of the legitimate articles on Estonian and Baltic history in general.  It was an ugly mess.  this search and this AFD cover some of the details.  Oddly, Shii's list of notable hoaxes has not covered this one, but in terms of its depth it was quite impressive.  The Principality of Estland article lasted at least 11 months before being deleted; there may have been parts of the hoax which lasted longer than that.  -- Jayron  32  04:26, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Access to the wikitable sortable variable?
I am interested in having access to the wikitable sortable variables. When a sortable table is sorted by the 3rd column, for example, I want to find the variable "3" by asking a question: "if(sorted=3)..." I put an example here: Help_talk:Sorting#Conditional_formating_based_on_sort_parameter.3F Thanks Jrkenti (talk) 21:57, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not aware of anything that would allow you to do this - and the Help talk page you put your query on is the best place to do this. My only advice would be to find a way of doing this in HTML (I can't think of a way) - then the Wikipedia table experts might be able to work out a wiki markup equivalent. -- <font color="#307D7E">Phantom <font color="#55CAFA">Steve /<font color="#008000">talk &#124;<font color="#000080">contribs \ 22:26, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * This is not possible. you cannot "script" an article. Reasons for this are page load, page complexity and security issues. —Th e DJ (talk • contribs) 23:57, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Isn't the idea of "sorting" in the list (or the show/hide for the Navboxes) already a script? Surely that 'on-click' action can be applied to other ideas? Jrkenti (talk) 16:46, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Book won't download
I've created User:Nyttend/Books/Pennsylvania NRHP and tried to download it, but every time I try I get a message of "This file is damaged and cannot be repaired". Clicking the [ PDF ] button works fine — I get the "Rendering finished" page without difficulty — but once I'm at that page and click "Download the file to your computer", it runs for quite a while (without showing anything but a white screen) before giving me the failure message. Would someone else try it and see if the download works? I've created and downloaded a couple of other books today without any problems. Nyttend (talk) 23:15, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I also get an error, "There was an error when downloading the file: Failed writing body (384 != 1448)". I'm not sure what the issue is, but perhaps try compiling the book again?  fetch  comms  ☛ 02:47, 18 December 2009 (UTC)