Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2009 July 12

= July 12 =

Left allign
How do you left allign a picture? Cruise meerkat (talk) 00:08, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The markup would look something like [[Image:imagename.jpg|left|thumb|caption]] . Basically, if you leave a justification out, it aligns right.  Dismas |(talk) 00:11, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes but how do I get it to allign left? Cruise meerkat (talk) 00:15, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Im a bit confused with your question but i think the solution is still the same, in the syntax mentioned above that you type [[Image:imagename.jpg|left|thumb|caption]] by indicating left (shown in the syntax before thumb) the image will appear on the left of the page. Let us know if this resolves the question for you happy editing Ottawa4ever (talk) 00:23, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

OHHH I'm so stupid, sorry!!!! Thanks!! Cruise meerkat (talk) 00:24, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Uploading a new version of an existing image
I tried to update this image, but the something goes wrong. The system confirms the update and then shows the original image. After I re-update, the previous version is now shown correctly, but the latest update isn't, etc. Can you please take a look at the image, update to the right version (the one with green) and then explain what my problem was? Thanks, --Cryout (talk) 00:17, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Problem solved. I needed to clear my cache (simply F5 did not work). This is mildly annoying, but I can work with it. --Cryout (talk) 00:23, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I had the same problem the other day and ended up double-uploading. :(  -- Kraftlos  (Talk | Contrib) 08:02, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Referencing articles
Can you use another article as a reference? --- Scarce  ||||  Talk  - Contrib. --- 01:30, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * When you need a reference for an article you are developing on wikipedia, the best approach is not to use another wikipedia article as a reference. One approach though is to check that article for the reference you need for the article you are developing. If its there copy paste the reference. If there is no reference there its best to find another source for a reference. Hope Im making sense, happy editing Ottawa4ever (talk) 01:56, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The WP:SELFREF page has some insight on this as well. — Ched : ?  05:01, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * i believe you mean WP:Self-published sources. that "selfref" page is about a different issue. Sssoul (talk) 05:44, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I can understand your pointing to that, but no - my reasoning for the "selfref" link is in relation to WP:PRIMARY. Perhaps I have a broader interpretation of the guideline than you do.  I've seen many debates over these 2 items, and I can find value in both.  The bottom line however, is that it's better to use a good secondary source to cite the info, than to use a self reference to our own articles which are considered a tertiary source. — Ched :  ?  15:40, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

help -- attaching a photo at President's_Surveillance_Program
there's a sidebar at President's_Surveillance_Program that says, "Cover of the 10 July 2009 Unclassified Report on the President’s Surveillance Program". But there isn't a photo there. The report is in the public domain. I don't know how to attach a photo. Can someone do this? thanks. Agradman talk/contribs 08:21, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * There's some problem with the servers currently. There are problems like images not displaying properly all over the place. It'll be ok soon, I hope. See this discussion at the Village Pump. ≈ Chamal  talk 10:01, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, it took a while for the page to fully load, but I'm seeing the image there. Deor (talk) 10:03, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

User names
I created an account under the name Lucas Brown 42, but changed it to Lucas Brown. I have since forgotten the password for the latter account, so I have resumed editing under Lucas Brown 42. Is there any way to change the password for the second account? -- 09:21, 12 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Have you read Help:Logging in -Optigan13 (talk) 09:30, 12 July 2009 (UTC)


 * If you have confirmed your email address with wikipedia, then you can request that a link to a password reset form be sent to your address. If not, then it can be difficault. Ha rle m 675  09:55, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi how do I dispute the neutrality of an article?
Hi I was just wondering how to do this? Can new users do this, because I'm new and just want to be sure? I can't seem to figure it out, thank you.--Famousblueraincoatwriter (talk) 09:39, 12 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Anyone can dispute the neutrality of an article (as long as they have a valid reason of course). Anyway, you can use Template:POV. Instructions for using it are given on the linked page. It's a good idea to leave a more detailed comment on the article's talk page about what you think is wrong with the article and how it could be improved. If it's a minor thing though, you can fix the article yourself. ≈ Chamal  talk 09:46, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

When do I reallly need to give a source while editing?
Hi to all! I'd like to fix some informations on minerals. My knowledge is based on few years of studies, many different articles, websites etc. Sometimes I just know some informations (boasting is not my point here (-;) because I remembered them well. That's why I wanted to ask, if I really need to cite a source (website, article, etc.) while fixing or adding such "obvious-for-me" informations - sometimes I just don't remember the source of the data.

Thanks,

Luke K.

Eudialytos (talk) 12:48, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I think the page that covers this is here. Basically, there are times when it is required to cite supporting sources (biographies of living people, controversial claims, etc.). In other instances, it is appropriate to cite sources, but not required. (However, please don't leave an article unsourced!) I hope this helps answer your question. TN X Man  12:53, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Another quick point to add is that if you cant remember the source and you think the statement needs one place this tag instead of a source This will flag the sentance for other readers and they may be able to provide the source your thinking of but cant remember. Happy editing Ottawa4ever (talk) 14:57, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

comic covers frontier times
hi could you tell me where i can obtain pictures of the comics frontier times of the pioneer days these were cowboy indian comics which came out in america around 1946 thanks john —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.45.21.141 (talk) 15:38, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Entertainment reference desk.  The left orium  15:52, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Nicholas Rockefeller any relations to John D. Rockefeller or David Rockefeller? biography lacking
Nicholas Rockefeller is vice chairman and chief legal officer of the RockVest Group of Investors and is involved in various banking and commercial projects in China and worldwide. He is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, the International Institute of Strategic Studies, the Advisory Board of RAND, the Corporate Advisory Board of the Pacific Council on International Relations, the Board of the Western Justice Center Foundation, and the Central China Development Council and has served as a participant in the World Economic Forum and the [[Aspen Institute. He also serves as a director of the Pacific Rim Cultural Foundation, and is a member of the boards of visitors of the law schools of the University of Oregon and of Pepperdine University. Nicholas’ China practice includes transactions with China’s largest banks, energy companies, communications entities and real estate enterprises as well as with China’s principal cities and leading provinces.  He was chosen as a board member of the Central China Construction and Development Commission and as a director of the Xiwai International School of Shanghai, Shanghai International University. He has appeared numerous times on CCTV and other China media.  Nicholas is a graduate of Yale University and of Yale Law School. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.215.3.220 (talk • contribs) 17:06, 12 July 2009 (UTC)


 * If you think there are relations to these people search for some on the web and site the sources that you can find. Other wise your best bet is to check at the Reference Desk about information on this person. Ottawa4ever (talk) 17:14, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * And if you're thinking of creating an article with the text above, don't. It's a copyvio of this. Note also that an article about the person has already been deleted via AfD. Deor (talk) 20:09, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Green Globe
The above article starts off with this disclaimer: The following are opinions of editors employed by EC3 Global and do not reflect the position of the owners of the Green Globe Brand or its license holders world wide. - I thought people employed by a company weren't supposed to write an article on it? 71.236.26.74 (talk) 22:35, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I've reverted the edit in which that was added. Deor (talk) 22:37, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * It depends on whether or not the user has a conflict of interest, where his or her goals conflict with those of WP.  hmwith  τ   04:03, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I guess without the disclaimer no one will know it was employees who wrote it.  It looks decent enough.  Some of the external links are a bit borderline, but I guess that can't be helped with an organization like that. --71.236.26.74 (talk) 14:44, 13 July 2009 (UTC)