Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2009 July 13

= July 13 =

Sections
Well, I have a list of bands on my profile that I listen to, but I do not want it to be one giant list from the top of the page to another. I want it in 3 sections.

I sort of want it like how "List of ..." pages have it. (For example: List of black metal bands). That list is also divided into 3 sections.

So how would I do this on my page? TheSickBehemoth (talk) 01:05, 13 July 2009 (UTC)TheSickBehemoth
 * List of black metal bands uses col-3. You can find out how something is done on a page by looking at the source wikicode for that page. Algebraist 01:12, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I already tried that. It did not work. TheSickBehemoth (talk) 01:18, 13 July 2009 (UTC)TheSickBehemoth
 * Is OK? PrimeHunter (talk) 01:28, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, I had forgotten the col-begin. Thank you, that's perfect. TheSickBehemoth (talk) 01:38, 13 July 2009 (UTC)TheSickBehemoth

Change in how posts are 'signed'
I recently noted that how my posts are 'signed' appear different recently. Is it somehow related to this incident, or something else? Thanks, User:CasualObserver& (talk) 04:01, 13 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Autoblock has nothing to do with signature. Maybe you changed your signature settings at Special:Preferences? --59.95.110.17 (talk) 04:20, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * This can't be anything to do with the autoblock. Go to your preferences (link at top right of the screen) and see if there's anything in the box labeled "signature". If there is, clear the box and uncheck the checkbox below it (saying "Sign my name exactly as shown"). If you want a customized signature, see WP:SIG for details. If this doesn't fix it, it might be something to do with the apostrophe in your name and you might have to go for a customized sig. Anyway, check what's happening and let us know if you need any help. ≈ Chamal  talk 04:22, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The signature block is blank, and I don't think I'd ever changed it. This is signed with 4 of these '~'. This seems strange, I'll do some testing here.  User:CasualObserver& (talk) 05:02, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I also note my signature isn't blue. The signature block is now: CasualObserver'48, the way it was before.  How does this look? It is still not blue on the preview? CasualObserver'48  05:09, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I think you want to change the signature box to something like User:CasualObserver'48 (talk) leave the "Sign my name exactly as shown" box checked. —teb728 t c 05:17, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I changed the signature box back to empty and unchecked and saved. I'm not quite ready to "Restore all default settings" yet.  I cant figure this out. User:CasualObserver& (talk) 05:43, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Try entering this in the signature box: CasualObserver'48 (talk) . This should produce a signature like CasualObserver'48 (talk). This time, check the "Sign my name exactly as shown" checkbox and see. I'm sorry about all this but we'll have to experiment a bit and see. ≈ Chamal  talk 05:53, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I did that, and the 'preview' looks like it works. Thanks a bunch. I still don't know what had gone wrong in the interim. CasualObserver&#39;48 (talk) 05:59, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * And, if your experimentation produces any information, I'd appreciate knowing the results of why/how it changed. I do not believe I changed anything myself to make this happen. CasualObserver&#39;48 (talk) 06:06, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I made a post about this at the Village Pump. I'm not sure if this is a bug or something to do with the recent server problems. ≈ Chamal  talk 07:27, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Your preferences may have gotten whipped by the server, it happened to me before. Go to your preferences and make sure the "Sign my name exactly as shown" checkbox is checked. The check box may also be called "Raw text" or something or other. -- penubag  (talk) 07:32, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * (outdent) My guess is that the problem had to do with the ' in your username. In your signature in your initial post your username link was coded as User:CasualObserver&amp;, which was not interpreted as a proper link. —teb728 t c 08:07, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

E-Health
I made an edit to the E-health category list about E-treatment and it got deleted. Why, I need to learn, not challenge. I'd like to post a page on E-treatment.

see page below and I dont know how to do this.

"E-Treatment for anxiety and depressive disorders:

The anxiety and depressive mental disorders are conventionally treated with medication or face to face cognitive behaviour therapy. There is a considerable research literature on the provision of computerized, i.e. preprogrammed, cognitive behaviour therapy delivered over the internet, with or without clinician support, to patients with anxiety and depressive disorders.

There are at least four programs sufficiently advanced to be approved for dissemination. Two programs have been identified by the UK National Institute for Clinical Excellence as cost effective for use in primary care. The first is Fearfighter : a text based CBT program to treat people with phobias and the second is Beating the Blues, an interactive text, cartoon and video CBT program for anxiety and depression. Two programs have been supported for use in primary care by the Australian Government. The first is Anxietyonline, a text based program for the anxiety, depressive and eating disorders, and the second is the CRUfAD set of interactive text, cartoon and video programs for the anxiety and depressive disorders.

Internet therapies for anxiety and depressive disorders can do better than conventional drug treatment in terms of cost and efficacy and the four programs listed above all have reported superiority over control groups double, at a quarter the cost of standard drug therapy. Benefit is long lasting and has been shown to include comorbid disorders that were not the direct focus of treatment. Patient adherence is higher than that obtained in face to face clinics, attributed by patients to the convenience of getting treatment over the web and to the structure of the material that allows them to learn at their own pace. There is emerging evidence that internet therapy may be of benefit in physical disorders like tinnitus and in substance use disorders like alcohol abuse. The field is developing quickly."

7 references —Preceding unsigned comment added by Monasharpe (talk • contribs) 08:31, 13 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Carl.bunderson deleted your addition as "nn", which means "not notable" (check the link to see why material added to Wikipedia articles must be notable). I recommend you discuss the issue on the article's talk page (Talk:EHealth), remembering to sign your messages on the talk page - as you've already done. If you get no answer there you can also discuss the issue directly by leaving a message on Carl.bunderson's talk page (User talk:Carl.bunderson). Hope that helps! &mdash; QuantumEleven 11:31, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Deletion
HI, an inquiry into adding a Russian Theologian wiki page link to Anatoly Fomenkos wiki page was made and so I supported this inquiry on the discussion page by giving evidence that Fomenkos ideas are supported by another mathematician Isaac Newton and I also included examples of repetitive/cyclical history to further show how Fomenko's theorys are correct and thus his status as a "theologian" can rightly be applied. So how else do I help the cause of getting a link to the Russian Theologian wiki page ONTO FOMENKOS WIKI PAGE?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by G2thef (talk • contribs) 10:02, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * That would be me, deleting a forum type post about "Its a frustrating topic and I did appreciate a Mormon video on youtube they use to explain Jesus as some extra-terrestrial(meaning not from Earth) son of a family and has a brother and its basic mythology and I just simply replace any sinister/reptile metaphor with simply just a different hair or skin color." and "People try to become these gods/CAESARS (CHON - Carbon,Hydrogen, Oxygen, Nitrogen which is our human dna, CAIN,KHAN, YAH/JAH, JOHN, KHAZAR) whom we find in god names like Khonsu, Chnoubis,Chiron, Charon,Chronus etc. etc. and they always have a brother as in examples Castor and Pollox, Cain and Abel ( Kabil and Habil in Islam), Ahriman and Ahura Mazda, Rome's Romulus and Remus, Isaac and Ishmael or even male and female gods/lords like Frey and Freya, the serpent humans Yama and Maya of Egypt or the greek Apollo and Artemis." Article talk pages are not webforums or venues for your original research -- see WP:OR and WP:Discussion. If you want Fomenko in the Russian theologian category, instead of putting forward personal arguments, find a reliable source -- see WP:RS for this. I've looked and didn't find one, which didn't surprise me as he is a mathematician. Dougweller (talk) 11:56, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

problem with an administrator
Ha rle m 675 13:44, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Where or how can I ask for help with an administrator who is not acting in good faith? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.163.63.37 (talk) 11:10, 13 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry you're having issues - I recommend you take a look at Dispute resolution, which lists tips and guidance on how to handle a dispute with another editor. The fact the other editor is an administrator should not make any difference. Good luck! &mdash; QuantumEleven 11:16, 13 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.163.63.37 (talk) 11:42, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Article Review
Hi there, I've been working on an article for a Canadian government communications lab (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications_Research_Centre), and have been given some helpful tips from various moderators on improving my article - including adding third party references and removing any promotional material. Now that I've made these updates, how can I get someone to take a look at the article and either remove the templates at the top or let me know how i can keep improving? I wrote on the talk walls of the different moderators last week with no luck. Thanks! Anandsrivastava2009 (talk) 12:35, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Any editor can remove those tags. When you feel that you've fixed the issues, you can remove them yourself.  hmwith  τ   13:13, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I feel that the concerns were addressed, so I went ahead an removed the tags for you. I also cleaned up the article a bit. Let me know if you have any further questions.  hmwith  τ   13:19, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much for your help! Anandsrivastava2009 (talk) 13:23, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Listing "N"ew contributions...
Is there any way I can list my contributions, but only those that were new pages (and hence with the N tag)?  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 14:10, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * http://toolserver.org/~escaladix/larticles/larticles.php, if it's running at the moment. Algebraist 14:13, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks Algebraist, but I can't see where it shows how many *new* pages I created? I can see total edits, total unique pages, but not the number of pages I originally created.  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 14:55, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * It should make a list of them. It takes a while. Algebraist 14:57, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Got it! Thanks - I'd used a lowercase p at the start of my user name, so it didn't find it!  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 15:43, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

where can I read more about ;starting line with semicolon
My mind was blown when I observed and further blown when I observed Where does Wikipedia keep the documentation on these wonderful things? I tried looking at semicolon -- can you make that a redirect? 12.33.45.253 (talk) 15:46, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * someone starting a line with a semicolon
 * someone interjecting a: colon into such a line.
 * All of the cool tricks are listed here. TN X Man  15:54, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * A pretty useful page for wiki commands can also be found here Cheatsheet Ottawa4ever (talk) 22:10, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * It should be a definition list, no? Kayau  Jane Eyre  PRIDE AND PREJUDICE  les miserables 10:38, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

I changed my name, and now i lost twinkle. what do i do?
--TheCommunityWave (talk) 15:46, 13 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Go to your preferences - link at the very top of the page - and enable Twinkle in the Gadgets tab. Then clear your browser cache. – ukexpat (talk) 15:48, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

El Centro, CA
Barbara Worth is a fictional character in the historical novel The Winning of Barbara Worth by Harold Bell Wright published in 1911. She was not a prominent citizen of El Centro. I've read the tutorial on changing the Wikipedia page, but even with my college education, I'm stumped as to how to get the information to you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.178.21.43 (talk) 15:50, 13 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Maybe there was also a real-life Barbara Worth? – ukexpat (talk) 15:58, 13 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I have re-written the history section of the El Centro article, leaving out the mention of Barbara Worth. I also added some other info from El Centro City's own website.  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 18:03, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Dragon Rouge
Greetings, Made an entry under Dragon Rouge to include a global branding consultancy. But, it seems like the addition is gone. Can you please advise? Thank you, Ali Aabalfour (talk) 16:39, 13 July 2009 (UTC)


 * See WP:SPAM. If you would like to create an article that complies with policy, you would do so at Dragon Rouge (company), but please read WP:YFA, WP:CORP and WP:RS first. – ukexpat (talk) 16:44, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Beside the problems that your addition was in the wrong place and promotional in tone, substantial parts were quoted verbatim from the consultancy's website and so were copyright violations. —teb728 t c 21:08, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Changing picture size in Infobox
I have been trying to make the picture of Isaac Zieman larger, while keeping the infobox the same size. How do you go about making the image appear larger? Thank you for the advice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CliosPsyche (talk • contribs) 18:09, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * With that infobox, you would use the  |image_size =  parameter and enter in a pixel size. There appears to white space around that image though.  You would want to remove that white space first.  Where did you get the image?--Rockfang (talk) 18:58, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

I got the image from his family to use here on Wikipedia. I tried editing it in paint to make it larger and must have created the white around it. I've tried putting in the pixel sizes but all it does is change the info box size rather than the picture itself —Preceding unsigned comment added by CliosPsyche (talk • contribs) 19:04, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * We will need evidence that the image has been released by the copyright owner - see WP:IOWN. – ukexpat (talk) 19:19, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Reference is German Wiki
How can I say in the references section that an article is being based mainly on the German one? Aelwyn (talk) 19:54, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You can put Template:Translated page on the talk page of the article.  The left orium  20:08, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

what is a user page?!
hi im still new to wikipedia and i bieleve there is no such thing as a stupid question...so what is a user page...at the top right of my screen it shows my username followed by-my talk-my prefrencences and so on... when i click on my user name it says start the.blurrz user page..what the hell?? im confused please HELP!!!The.blurrz (talk) 20:00, 13 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi. Try reading this: What is a user page and what can I have on it?  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 20:12, 13 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I have created a welcome message on your user page User:The.blurrz, as well as a message on your talk page User talk:The.blurrz. Your user page is where you can give information about yourself. Your user talk page is where people can leave you messages about your edits, etc.  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 20:18, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

video games
in sonic adventure 2 battle after you give a chao a bat it loses it's legs how do you get them back. Dakota Taylor —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.84.146.181 (talk) 21:43, 13 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. – ukexpat (talk) 21:45, 13 July 2009 (UTC)