Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2009 June 10

= June 10 =



How to edit an image?
Trying to update an image already uploaded, but can't figure out how. No button or nothing. Help? Ericleb010 (talk) 01:54, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You would have to upload a new version of the image but only autoconfirmed accounts can upload images to the English Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:22, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * (Sorry, was logged into wrong account) I'm autoconfirmed but what do I do? Just upload the image with the same file name using the upload form? Ericleb01 (talk) 02:29, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Click "Upload a new version of this file" near the bottom. If the image is at Commons then you may have to first view the description page there, for example by clicking a link saying "description page there". PrimeHunter (talk) 02:54, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The only option I can find to edit anything is by doing it externally. Nothing else is available. And yes, it's at Commons. Ericleb01 (talk) 03:06, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Never mind, need the new account over at Commons to be 4 days old... thought it was somehow linked to my Wikipedia one. Ericleb01 (talk) 03:16, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * You can unify you Wikipedia and Commons accounts by heading over to WP:SUL. – ukexpat (talk) 03:21, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * New accounts can upload at Commons. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:34, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * They can't reupload, though. Algebraist 14:41, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Reference Desk for biz
I often see many queries on the Humanities Reference Desk that deal with business. Would it be practical to start a RefDesk specifically for businesses? Or is that too narrow a spectrum?--Ractogon (talk) 02:47, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It sounds narrow to me. A better place to discuss would be Wikipedia talk:Reference desk. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:56, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * (EC)The best places to raise this issue are at Wikipedia talk:Reference desk and at Village pump (proposals). --Jayron32. talk . contribs 02:57, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I have posted a new section on both pages regarding the matter. Thanks for your replies!--Ractogon (talk) 21:23, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

delete wikipedia defamatory pages
After attempting a minor alteration to a wikipedia page, the page was quickly changed back and gave instructions to use the living persons notice board, which I never found after searching several areas? However, the problem is not simply altering the page, but the page should be removed or origin of proof needs to be included. An example: John Seigenthaler: contained false and defamatory content/ upon contact wikipedia deleted the pages.

The current reference is Doctor Roberta Sykes which contains false and defamatory content without any reference to providing proof.

Please advise how the above page can be removed and protected from further defamation? 03:11, 10 June 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.101.175.35 (talk)


 * The WP:BLP experts hang out at WP:BLPN. For the moment I have tagged Bobbi Sykes with BLPunsourced. Your edits were also not very encyclopedic and equally unsourced. – ukexpat (talk) 03:27, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

The unsourced tag is appropriate (currently), along with an explanation from the original contributor and sources, including proof of references. Additional historical information is accessable and verifiable to Wikipedia for Doctor Roberta Sykes-(aka-Bobbi Sykes) with confirmation from Wikipedia protection from any further defamatory depiction. Wikipedia: comment added by 220.101.175.35 (talk) 13:30, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

User's created pages
Is there a quick way to find out what pages a user has created, besides this tool? I know there must be, but for the life of me, I just can't find it.  Sophus Bie  (talk) 10:55, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Special:Preferences → Gadgets → Add page and user options to drop-down menus on the toolbar. When on a user page, you will have a User tab, hover over it and you will get several options including Contributions. See User:Haza-w/Drop-down menus for more info. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 11:13, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

However...

 * Thanks! (However, is there any way to find what articles they've started without JavaScript enabled?)    Sophus Bie  (talk) 11:23, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Certainly. Copy the user name, click on 'my contributions' at the top of the page, then paste the name into the URL over your name, then press enter. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 15:12, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * You don't even need to monkey around with the URL, just paste the user's name into the User box/field on the contributions page and hit the Search button. But note that both methods will show all the user's contributions, not just the pages they have created. – ukexpat (talk) 15:27, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * What I'm trying to achieve is a list composed only of the articles that a user has created, not edited. Is there a way to do that?    Sophus Bie  (talk) 15:28, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It should work to use Special:Newpages and filter on user, but when I try I only get one or two results, not sure why it does not work?? --Stefan talk 07:36, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Random statement on user page refresh
I'm looking to see how I would go about creating a random statement on my user page everytime I refresh it from a set list of statements. I'm almost positive I'm going to have to invoke to accomplish this task, but i'm not sure how. Essentially I want to have a small database of statements that will display on my userpage differently each refresh

This is random statement 561 *refresh* This is random statement 12 *refresh* This is random statement 42

I'm sure it's a trivial matter but I haven't figured it out. Thanks. :-)   Fyyer    12:53, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Try this:
 * You may have to purge or preview or edit the page to get a new random number. Otherwise you may just keep getting what Wikipedia has cached. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:53, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yep that works. Thanks alot.    Fyyer    02:11, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yep that works. Thanks alot.    Fyyer    02:11, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Is it possible to contact an editor of a page so that we may collaborate on the information before publishing.
I would like to help contribute to a page on Lypkivsky. It was recently updated, so I know there is someone else interested in expanding the wiki page. I would like to know if it is possible to contact the other editors of the page so that we can collaborate before changing the current content. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shrekde (talk • contribs) 14:54, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The best way to do this is to use the article's talk page. I'm not sure to which article you are referring, otherwise I would provide a link for you. However, you may find this page useful in learning about talk pages. TN X Man  14:57, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Do you mean this page? You can also leave a message on another user's talk page.  If you look through the page's revision history you can see which editors did what.  If you find someone you want to discuss things or collaborate with, you could then leave a message on that user's talk page.  However, if it has to do with specifics in the article, it's probably best to discuss it on the article's page as Tnxman says so that others will be able to find it in the future.  Leaving a note on a users talk page directing them to your comments on the article's talk page is another possibility.  TastyCakes (talk) 15:01, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * See Help:Talk page and Talk page guidelines. --Teratornis (talk) 18:11, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Emailing an article to a friend outside of Wikipedia from within Wikipedia
Is there an internal function within Wikipedia that I can use to "easily" email an article to a friend who hasn't signed up as a registered Wikipedia user? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dwinser (talk • contribs) 16:24, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't know of an internal function, but copying and pasting the link is one way of doing that. TN X Man  16:25, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Anyone can see article's on Wikipedia, so a simple link should suffice. Alternatively, you can generate a PDF version of the page and e-mail that. To do this open the article you inted to send and select "PDF version" under the "Toolbox" section on the left hand side of the screen. Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 16:29, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Image Uploaded to "Commons." Now what? How do I get it to the article I want?
I uploaded a picture that I took of my skin tag (File:Skintagonrightfemalebreastac.JPG) to the Commons Page. I want it posted on the article for "Skin Tags." I don't know how to do this, & I'm tired of looking at the help pages that I can't seem to find help. Could someone please upload this to the page for me? I'm computer illiterate, & am surprised I managed to get as far as I did. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

AC —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amy Crow (talk • contribs) 17:09, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi Amy, it all looks OK to me - the image is in Commons, but it's also replicated here. You can include it in articles simply by using . You can see the image in Wikipedia here . You've probably already seen Images, but that has more details on using images in articles, including thumbnails, sizing, etc.
 * Cheers, This flag once was redpropagandadeeds 17:20, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I've added it to the page for you, as you seemed to be requesting that someone would do that, see here: Acrochordon for the code I used, all the best SpitfireTally-ho! 17:23, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Oops, apologies for not doing that myself - I got sidetracked once I worked out the image had been uploaded OK. Cheers, This flag once was redpropagandadeeds 17:53, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks so much! The article looks great! I hope my image is useful for someone doing research on this. I wish my camera had focused closer, but I took it of myself, & it was kinda hard to do. Anyway, I'm rambling. Thanks for uploading the pic to the article! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amy Crow (talk • contribs) 18:38, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I have a personal anecdote to share about the late actor David Carradine
It's factual but just an anecdote.

Should I post in on Wikipedia? If so, where? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.167.3.21 (talk) 17:20, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * No, sorry, but everything on wikipedia must be verifiable via reliable sources, but thanks a lot for asking first, that shows a degree of prudence, all the best SpitfireTally-ho! 17:27, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, we don't allow original research.  hmwith  τ   19:57, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Quick question
Does anyone know what I might have done here and why nothing odd actually appeared on the noticeboard? TN X Man 17:48, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * At a guess, you accidentally subst'ed UAA instead of transcluding it. This also broke it, I think. - Jarry1250 (t, c) 17:52, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Basing myself purely on the code you showed, i assume you placed a template but did not subst it? It seems to be a code that substitures the template for the correct message. EG: If the parameter for the template would be "S" it would place a notice that the user should go to WP:SSP, while an "A" would substitute for an "Report to Ani" template. Nothing weird appeared because the template is still correctly substituting the "Wait till user edits" template as it should Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 17:55, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm. I bet I subst'ed on accident. Thanks for the assist. TN X Man  17:59, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Public Domain
How do I find out if 'Trucker Girl" is Public Domain? Thank you! Lara Riedel —Preceding unsigned comment added by LaraRiedel (talk • contribs) 19:06, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry but you question is not clear - are you talking about an image, a website, a publication? – ukexpat (talk) 19:15, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I want to upload a picture for Richard Krawiec, how do I do it?
I have the permission but I don't know at all how to upload.Rich PetersonRich (talk) 19:35, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * See Help:Images and other uploaded files.  hmwith  τ   19:54, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * However, if it is a copyrighted image and the copyright holder gave you permission to use the image, you need send proof of that to OTRS. See more information at Requesting copyright permission.  hmwith  τ   19:55, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * So, do I need to join wikimedia commons to get it uploaded?75.45.106.99 (talk) 19:58, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Not necessarily - if you own the copyright, please upload to Commons (go to WP:SUL to unify accounts). If someone else owns the copyright and is releasing it for use on Wikipedia, it should be uploaded here and the process at WP:IOWN followed to release it. – ukexpat (talk) 20:05, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks75.45.106.99 (talk) 20:25, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Couple of points - you will need to log in and your account must be autoconfirmed (10 edits and 4 days old) before you can upload here on Wikipedia. There are no autoconfirmation requirements on Commons. – ukexpat (talk) 21:02, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Editing an Article for a different meaning but with the same name...
Hi,

I tried to edit an article earlier today. The article is 'After the Ordeal' which is a song by rock band 'Genesis'. After The Ordeal is also the name of my rock band and I wanted to add an article about us as we have mentions on other article (i.e. music festivals) but no link to information about us. I added my edit underneath the origianl article and it appeared at first but has since dissapeared. I would just like to know how to go about keeping it there, or how to start a seperate article but with the same name.

Thanks,

Gaz ATO

--Gaz ATO (talk) 21:18, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * See WP:DISAMBIG.  hmwith  τ   21:28, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The easiest way would be to simply click here: After The Ordeal (band) and start editing. However, having done a little research, it may seem as if your band may not meet the relevant guideline for inclusion (WP:MUSIC). If this is indeed the case, the article is likely to be deleted shortly after its creation. decltype (talk) 21:49, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Problem with formatting of footnotes
Hi, I included a second separate section for explanatory notes for Magdalena Neuner. I used this template, because references can't be nested and I also wanted to give a source. Now I can't figure out a way how to use the same footnote twice (something comparable to the 'ref name=' function for normal references). Maybe someone knows an easy way to do this. EnemyOfTheState undefined 22:36, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * If you use the and  templates you can do -
 * Someone once said something. Later they did something else.. It was later found that they did the first thing wrong.

Notes References
 * The thing they said was important, but it wasn't true.
 * This thing was really boring.


 * Hope that helps somewhat. Nanonic (talk) 00:58, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yep, that would work. Thanks.  EnemyOfTheState  undefined 19:52, 11 June 2009 (UTC)