Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2009 June 16

= June 16 =

Moving free license to Commons without furthur edit
How to move local updated free license to Wikimedia Commons with all of its information such description and types of free license, and hoped to accomplish to no difference except a reminder template says "This is a file from the Wikimedia Commons. The description on its description page there is shown below....".

I wish to make it can applied to other wikis. Bus88MRT (talk) 00:30, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Are you saying you'd like to move a file to Commons?--Rockfang (talk) 00:33, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes,free images on local wikipedia, BTW, uploading free resources is not a option to local wikipedia, why they can doing this?Bus88MRT (talk) 00:37, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * To learn more about moving images to Commons you may want to read this. About your other point, I'm not sure about other language wikipedias, but at this one, you can upload free images.--Rockfang (talk) 00:45, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

IP Editor using my real name
I didn't really know where to raise this question, so I defaulted to here. If there is a better place, it would be nice of someone to redirect me. The anon IP editor at 98.239.20.4 was somehow able to discover my real name and added it to an article (Specifically Loeb's (department store) in this diff). I don't really care if anyone knows my real name or even if they use it, but I would like to know how it's possible that (s)he found it out. The IP lookup shows that this person is in New Jersey, and I am in Mississippi, so it's a pretty safe bet that this guy doesn't know me personally. It just kind of creeped me out to know that a random person could find my name and then had the audacity to put it in an article, making it visible/searchable for all eternity. Does anyone know how this person may have been able to do that? --Dudemanfellabra (talk) 04:16, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * A google search of your username returns the name used by the anon editor on the second page of results...and several more times on the following pages. Not sure if that's what happened here, but it appears that in other places you've left a connection between this username and your real name. --Onorem♠Dil 04:31, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I got a similar result using http://www.Bing.com. GeorgeLouis (talk) 04:44, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah.. I didn't think of that haha.. I was thinking of Wikipedia tools like the WHOIS thing, geolocation, etc.. So I revert this guy's edit and he Googles my username, looks through to the 20th result, then adds my name to an article? Wow. Thanks for clearing that up though! --Dudemanfellabra (talk) 04:47, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The IP was guessing the first time. Now you have confirmed the guess if the IP watches your contributions. Page histories are not searchable and it doesn't have to be visible for all eternity. You can request removal at Requests for oversight. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:36, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

History of cricket
when was the first cricket match played and between which two countries —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.174.93.115 (talk) 05:13, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * See History of cricket. --Teratornis (talk) 06:44, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

importing .doc file to wikipedia
how to import file from .doc format to wiki —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.14.25.226 (talk) 05:34, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * See Help:WordToWiki --Stefan talk 05:52, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Link to Commons description changed?
Whenever you went onto a photo on the English Wikipedia, it would tell you its description and have a link to its page on Wikimedia Commons including the Commons logo. It appears to have changed and now uses an external link format with that arrow on it rather than the inter-wikimedia link you had before (example image). What's the story behind this change? Can anyone point me to the discussion of this change?  Jolly  Ω   Janner  00:32, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Moved from Misc. RefDesk The Commons information on that file renders the same for me as it always has. ÷seresin 06:13, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Really? How odd. For me it says "This file is from Wikimedia Commons and may be used by other projects. The description on its file description page there is shown below."  Jolly  Ω   Janner  11:27, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * You were seeing the default for MediaWiki:Sharedupload-desc-here. Seems that the message name was changed. Geni moved the text used, but that image page was cached. I purged it and is now gone. Platonides (talk) 12:11, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Finding all edits a user made to a certain page
Hi there. I think I remember that there is a script somewhere that gives you the diffs for all edits a specific user made to a selected page but I cannot find it again. Does someone know of that script and where it's located (if I'm not making this up of course)? Regards  So Why  07:01, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Someone asked a similar question here the other day, and the only answers we came up with were this (which just counts the total edits by each contributor) and Whodunit, which shows the attribution of all the text extant in the article. Maybe someone else knows of other tools? Gonzonoir (talk) 10:10, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * If it's one of their most edited pages, you can use .  hmwith  τ   14:41, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * But none of those would supply me with diffs to those edits, just telling me how many edits they made to the page. I'll ask at VPT if it's not as obvious as I thought. Regards  So Why  15:57, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * This is the download linkfor a Windows program in zip format, called Contributor Surveyor (made by User:Dcoetzee). It lists a user's articles in order of how often they edited it, and includes clickable diffs showing the size of each contribution. I understand it is much used by WikiProject Copyright Cleanup. - KoolerStill (talk) 20:04, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * You were probably thinking of this tool. Graham 87 00:56, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * That's a really useful tool. Thanks for the link. Gonzonoir (talk) 19:58, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Moon (film)
the release date for the Moon movie are wrong, it is not coming out till the 20th of november —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.90.161.68 (talk) 07:34, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Do you have a reliable source for this claim? Regards  So Why  08:04, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * yes and  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.90.161.68 (talk) 08:09, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid you confused two different films. The film you are referring to can be found at New Moon (2009 film) and has the November 20, 2009 release date. Regards  So Why  08:17, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * O.K. thanks, I dont know how to use this webpage —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.90.161.68 (talk) 08:26, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Collapsible navboxes
I want to add a collapsible navbox, like the DRV ones, to hide an archived discussion. What's the code for that?  Aditya  α ß 08:01, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Either or collapse top and collapse bottom. Regards  So  Why  08:06, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Or I like to use hat.  hmwith  τ   14:38, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Uploading new verisons of images that should be in SVG format
I am trying to upload newer versions of a few pngs and jpgs that should be svgs, however when I upload them, Wikipedia says that "the file is corrupt or has an incorrect extention". When I go to manually upload it through the "Upload file" section of Wikipedia, and when I click on the "work of someone else who has given permission to use it on Wikipedia or it is a work released under a free license" link, and I type in the original file it says it doesn't exist. Should I upload my version as my own work, and replace any links to it? Also, not sure if this will help, but the "Images that should be in SVG format" category has subcategories which all say "(0)" next to them. Does this mean that there are no images that need editing? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nevetsjc (talk • contribs) 08:37, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * You cannot upload SVGs in place of PNGs or JPGs, you need to upload new files (preferably with the same file name + ".svg") and license them accordingly (with PD-self for example). Then you can tag those old PNGs/JPGs using the Vector version available template. If you are replacing Fair-Use images with SVGs, replace all usages of the previous file in articles and then tag the old file with {{subst:orfur}} to nominate it for deletion. Hope that helps. Regards  So Why  08:58, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * If it's derivated from the other file, remember to mention it in the text. Platonides (talk) 12:12, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Please block this account
Account compromised. For safety reasons please block this account—Apo&#39;strophe (talk) 09:46, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Forwarded to WP:AIAV Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 10:07, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Become an Administrator
How do you become an administrator on Wikipedia? Mr. Prez (talk) 12:24, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The process can be found at Requests for adminship. decltype (talk) 12:37, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Were Adam and Eve the first humans?
I have been debating this question for quite sometime; were Adam and Eve the first creation of mankind? On June 16,2009 I spent hours on the phone arguing on the behalf of this issue. The peron that I was discussing this with was a female minister, a friend of a brother of mine. First she started with Genesis 1:26 which states; Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image,according to Our likeness;let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the, over all all the earth and every creeping thing that creeps on earth.

Now this next portion is what I do not understand. Genesis 1:27; So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. This verse I believe is talking about some other humans I believe because Adam was not created according to Genesis 1. Genesis 2:7 tells us that man was formed from the dust of the ground. It appears to me by these verses in Genesis that there was humans before the creation of Adam and Eve. This was what the discussion was all bout during that phone conversation. Also I was told that Adam and Eve was created to begin the lineage of Christ. Please help me figure this one out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.88.235.164 (talk) 12:39, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I have refered your inquiry to the reference desk which deals with such questions about the content of Wikipedia rather about using it. Please await an answer there. Regards  So Why  12:48, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Question on images from another Wikipedia
This is from my talk page, I don't know the answer: "I just wanna know why sometimes I place a file (image) from another language in English encyclopedia then, the file appears to not exist ? what to do to apply a file in both commons of all languages ?" Dougweller (talk) 13:55, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I believe that English Wikipedia will only display images that have been uploaded either here or on Commons. If the image is hosted a local Wikipedia only, another copy will have to be uploaded before it will display here. TN X Man  14:00, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * This is probably because the file has been uploaded in that foreign language Wikipedia and is not accessible by English Wikipedia. A solution would be to upload it at commons so that all other Wikimedia projects can use it. However if it's a fair use image, we'll have to upload it again here.  C h a m a l  talk 14:03, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * See WP:MITC. I have moved a few dozen images from the English Wikipedia to Commons. It's not too hard once you get through the initial setup. The process may be slightly tricky if you want to move an image from a Wikipedia that is in a language you do not read (since you will not easily read some of the text that tells you how the process is working). In such a case, I asked a user on the Italian Wikipedia to move an image for me, and he did. Probably all of the other language Wikipedias have some users who also speak English, and some of them will move images to Commons if you ask them. See also WikiProject Images and Media/Commons where you might get some help if you need it. --Teratornis (talk) 18:45, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

????????
how can i create my biography —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shashicant (talk • contribs) 14:16, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, Wikipedia discourages people from writing about themselves, as there is an inherent conflict of interest. If you feel that you are notable, you can suggest that someone else write an article about you. TN X Man  14:22, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * There are other web-based alternatives: Wikipopuli and Wikibios for example. – ukexpat (talk) 14:38, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

You can write a few things about yourself on your userpage, but it can't be a full-blown biography. Spongefrog (talk) 15:56, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * You can also add user boxes, those are fun! See my user page for a selection of them, then copy and paste the template to your user page. Hope this helps! ISTHnR | Knock Knock  &#124; Who's There? 22:05, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

SET UP
I SCANNED QUICKLY THRU BUT DIDN'T SEE WHO TO CONTACT ABOUT GETTING STARTED WITH MY WEBTB NOR DID I SEE THE PRICE TO SET IT UP —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.149.218.239 (talk) 14:26, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 2.8 million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the online free encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If that is not fruitful, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.  TN X Man  14:29, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

newer technologies of Microsoft .net
I would like to know about newer technologies which are helpful for a programmer `` —Preceding unsigned comment added by Qadir756 (talk • contribs) 15:00, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Have you tried the Computing section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.  TN X Man  15:08, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Try this search:
 * --Teratornis (talk) 18:35, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * --Teratornis (talk) 18:35, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Italics or Bold
On several articles there are both bold and italics on the first word of the first paragraph, like this. Is this what you are supposed to do, or is it just to be in bold. Spongefrog (talk) 15:54, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * See WP:BOLDTITLE. – ukexpat (talk) 15:59, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Thankyou. Spongefrog (talk) 21:43, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * All titles should be in bold, but if it's something that should be itatlicized normally, such as a movie, album, or book, it should be both.  hmwith  τ   13:16, 17 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Like I said, see WP:BOLDTITLE. – ukexpat (talk) 14:17, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

References for Yellow Alder Article
I posted a reference for the yellow alder article and it didnt show up...I went to Help Cite:references and did what it said but the citation still wont show up! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Olivercatterson (talk • contribs) 18:52, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Fixed it! Your last edit but one was OK; the problem was that citations will only display if there's a section for them. I added a "References" section, and then used  to display the citations. Cheers, This flag once was redpropagandadeeds 18:57, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * ("Diff" here, if that helps see what I did to fix it). This flag once was redpropagandadeeds 18:58, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Can't see image on page
I am trying to upload an image onto my companies page.

I placed it into the commons area, but now can't get it to appear on the site.

The picture I am referring to is called UFCU Building and it should appear on the United Federal Credit Union page.

Any suggestions? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.37.171.36 (talk) 18:59, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * You need a user name to upload a picture, but right now you don't seem to be logged in. Do you have a user name?  Also, do you know the exact file name?  TastyCakes (talk) 19:01, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Picture (continued)
Yes, my user name is Mnicholas and I uploaded the picture into the commons area: UFCU Building.

It shows up on the United Federal Credit Union page as a picture that is supposed to be there, but it won't show up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.37.171.36 (talk) 19:08, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Image filenames are case sensitive. You titled your image File:UFCU Building.JPG, but in the article you called it File:UFCU Building.jpg. Algebraist 19:15, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * PS, that article is in dire need of some references from reliable sources. I have also despammed it a little. – ukexpat (talk) 19:20, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Hmm I see you also uploaded the company logo to commons here. Usually logos are not uploaded to commons because they use Fair use criteria rather than being free images.  It will probably be deleted if you leave it there.  It would be fine if uploaded on English Wikipedia however... TastyCakes (talk) 19:20, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Please, 72.37, be aware of our strictures on conflict of interest. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  20:55, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Flashback (radio program) page error
I was trying to find info about the Flashback broadcast by Bill St. James and I can see the page description, but there is an error every time I try to get to the page. Here is the description I can see.

""Flashback" is an American radio show syndicated by Citadel Media (through ... It is hosted by the "irreverent" Bill St. James, and ... " —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.159.56.130 (talk) 20:39, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It appears okay for me, and there doesn't seem to have been any changes in the recent past. Can you reach the page by clicking on this link: Flashback (radio program) ? Would you be able to tell us what error message you get and on what page you you are coming from? -- Kateshort forbob  22:01, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Deletion
Can someone provide me with a page that displays all of the available deletion templates? Thank You ISTHnR | Knock Knock  &#124; Who's There? 22:02, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Is Template messages/Deletion what you mean? If you refer to message templates, you might want to put Wikipedia template messages on your user page for handy reference. --Teratornis (talk) 23:07, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Why do so many pages attempt to download when I click on the link?
It seems like about every 100 pages I click on or search for do not take me to the page, but attempt to download a file onto my computer. Unless there's a redirect to the page, I can't view it. Why is this? It's been happening for months now. 74.105.8.120 (talk) 23:34, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * This sounds a little like a problem somebody reported last month, which appeared to originate with a special characters issue. Does it always happen on the same pages? Could you give us a list of affected pages, or tell us exactly what the download prompt says? Gonzonoir (talk) 08:15, 17 June 2009 (UTC)