Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2009 June 19

= June 19 =

Sister projects
why does it has to be wikipedia SISTER'S projects?? couldn't it be like wikipedia BROTHER'S or FATHER'S or MOTHER'S projects?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.170.57.249 (talk) 02:04, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Because sister is the appropriate word to use. See the 7th definition of "sister" at Wikipedia's sister project, Wiktionary: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sister. Mother or father would imply a parent-child relationship, which isn't the case here. It's not "brother" because, in English, female terms are usually used for these types of relationships (e.g. mother ship, daughter card). Pburka (talk) 02:52, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

uploading a image
How do i upload a image on wikipedia?? is their a special requirment or somthing? i cant find the page can somone help me? --Mactrac (talk) 04:18, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Here you go, Mactrac - How To upload images to Wikipedia. Hope this helps!    .`^) Paine Ellsworthdiss`cuss (^`.   04:25, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

From Vinhtantran: Photo review
Please review this image File:Ultraman bandai eurodata.png, is it free or not? Vinhtantran (talk) 16:50, 14 June 2009 (UTC) --Lê (talk) 04:51, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Commons:Commons:FOP says that in Japan Freedom of Panorama applies only to buildings. —teb728 t c 06:00, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

How do I create a corporate section / profile of an organization in Wikipedia?
There are corporate profiles of organizations like Cisco and IBM in Wikipedia. How does one create sections / profiles like that? 220.225.210.2 (talk) 05:51, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
 * You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.


 * Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.


 * If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Your first article and How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. —teb728 t c 06:07, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * See also the FAQ on organizations. —teb728 t c 06:11, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Pages in Categories
How can articles(pages)be placed in a particular category so that the category becomes more informative?Shraktu (talk) 06:29, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * This may not be what you are looking for, but you place a page in a category by placing the following on the page (traditionally at the bottom):, just as you would a link. Calvin 1998  (t·c) 06:42, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, this is what i was looking for..Shraktu (talk) 06:48, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

How do I remove a template?
I've recently created an article that got a lot of templates while still under construction, one of which said that the plot is too long compared to the rest of the article. I feel that I may have corrected this error now, so I'd like to remove the template. But how do I do it? Can I just go into the article and remove the template's formatting text? Or do I need to ask a mod to do it / bring up the subject with mods somewhere where they can determine whether it's acceptable to remove it or not? Nimloth250 (talk) 08:03, 19 June 2009 (UTC)Nimloth250


 * There's really no such thing as "mods" here on Wikipedia, and you certainly don't have to ask anyone to do anything: if it sounds right, isn't stupid, and is good-intentioned, go right ahead and do it. By the way, you can remove the template by removing the source (the double-curly-braces and the text within them). Calvin 1998 (t·c) 08:08, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Exactly as Calvin states. Though a small word of caution to prevent being to to bold: Article issue tags are placed to signal editors (Both you and other editors) that an article needs some works. Article's tagged with maintenance templates, as they are called, are categorized so that it is possible to easily locate an article that needs to be fixed. You are completely free to remove any template, but please don't do so until the issue denoted by the template has been fixed - or at least until you assume it has been fixed Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 08:45, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks, guys. The article still has the under construction and needs external links and citations templates, but I feel the plot issue has been solved. I'll go ahead and be bold! Nimloth250 (talk) 09:34, 19 June 2009 (UTC)Nimloth250

Make citation needed and reference
How do I make [citation needed] (smaller and a bit elevated)? I'm sure I saw this in some article once, don't remember which one though.

Thanks

SpaceFlight89 (talk) 08:38, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Using the template will create .  Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 08:38, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * That template now redirects to Template:Fact, so you can save yourself from typing a few characters (and a bot from coming and replacing your tag) by using, which also gives , instead. Gonzonoir (talk) 08:44, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * smile: you can save yourself even more characters - and avoid the ulta-illogic of typing "fact" when you mean "citation needed" - by using, which also gives  Sssoul (talk) 09:46, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Infobox
What category would the Vermont State Fair fall under for an infobox? Mr. Prez (talk) 13:38, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't believe there is one. The most famous state fair of which I'm aware (the State Fair of Texas) does not have an associated infobox. TN X Man  13:41, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, Arizona State Fair and Michigan State Fair use Template:Infobox festival, which looks like a sensible bet. Gonzonoir (talk) 13:42, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, I stand corrected. Good catch. TN X Man  13:46, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

To submit an ommission? suggestion?
I don't want to submit but just to notify so someone else can correct an ommisision. I came acoss the term Tampo printing as in racing and was trying to find out what it was. I could not find it in wikipedia but did finally find it in a discussion forum: Here it is...

Pad Printing or Tampo Printing is a versatile, state-of-the-art technology which can print on virtually any material or surface. This system makes it possible to meet the demands of any job, while exceeding the strictest quality standards. Achieve production goals with a printing process that promotes a clean, efficient and cost effective operation.

Tampo Pad Miami offers an array of products that range from a manual printer for the start-up business, to the fully-programmable, automatic multicolor system for the sophisticated printer. These machines are constructed the finest materials to ensure years of reliable, dependable service. Whatever your printing needs, Tampo Pad Miami has the right one for you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by JReed1957 (talk • contribs) 14:37, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but this appears to be advertising. Wikipedia cannot accepts adverts and everything must be written from a neutral point of view. TN X Man  14:40, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

My user page
I have reccently opened an account and added to a page, but I cannot seem to access my user page or my talk. Is this possibly due to a space being present in my user name?

Ryan Birch (talk) 15:06, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Until edits are made to your user and user talk pages, they will remain redlinks and when you click on the user links at the top of every page, they will open in edit mode. I just added a welcome message to your talk page, so it is now a blue link and will open in read/view mode. – ukexpat (talk) 15:10, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * All you have to do is click the red link in your signature above (or click here), and then you can create you userpage. Every user creates his or her own. Enter what you would like on your page, save, and viola!  hmwith  τ   21:08, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Error message
In trying to add a section to an existing page, I get four messages: "references with no comment must have a name." What is the error? How do I do it the right way?

Truthinlabeling (talk) 15:51, 19 June 2009 (UTC)onlythetruth


 * Are you sure it doesn't say "refs with no content must have a name"? See Footnotes for how to format references. If you save your edit in User:Truthinlabeling/Sandbox then we can see what is wrong with it. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:13, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The message should have a link to Help:Cite errors— that should help you resolve this. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 18:29, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, it did say "refs with no content must have a name." Happily, I was able to resolve the problem. The " that I was using for my cross references sometimes came out as a quotation mark, and not the (straight)" used in the references. Truthinlabeling (talk) 01:08, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Teaching project
I am trying to clear with my supervisor the possibility of teaching a group of 35 students the basics of editing Wikipedia. This means we would all be editing at the same time, from the same IP address. I hope to have them create accounts for themselves to use for the class, and then, they can continue editing with it, if they wish. I don't expect vandalism, but then again, they are students. Is there anything I need to do in order to make this possible, as far as on Wikipedia is concerned? Thank you. —Mr. E. Sánchez (that's me!)What I Do / What I Say 20:45, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Give School and university projects a good read, as well as School and university projects/Instructions for teachers and lecturers. These may answer some of your questions and give you hints on the best way to approach this as well as some suggested tasks. Nanonic (talk) 21:00, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I doubt i need to explain this to you - after all your an experienced wikipedian - but keep in mind that 35 people editing from the same IP can be slightly risky due to vandalism patrol. If even one student misbehaves this can cause editing restrictions on each and every other student. A personal account would solve, and it also allows for a means to check a users edits, which would reduce the chance of vandalism in the first place (And a convenient way to track if a student does his work, if that matters to you :) ).


 * Second, keep in mind that we are likely talking about a group of student where some, or even the majority, has never ever used wikipedia as an editor. As of such they will not be familiar with WP:NPOV, WP:N, WP:V, WP:Copyright, WP:NOR, WP:NOT and WP:RS (And every other) policies. I would advise specifically explaining the ones that would likely be related to the assignment. Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 22:42, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * User:Teratornis/Tips for teachers may give you some ideas. You can skip all the Wikipedia problems if you install your own school wiki with the MediaWiki software. You might even give each student his or her own personal wiki. Editing on the live Wikipedia is not ideal for an instruction course because every edit, at least in article and project space, has to "count". You can't easily set up lessons that would be the same for every student, because we wouldn't want 35 students to make the same changes to the same article, and it's not easy to come up with 35 different individual lesson plans that would all be on the leading edge of Wikipedia's editorial evolution. I think for an instruction class you would be much better off running it (or at least starting off) on your own wiki, where you could cover all the editing basics before throwing students to the wolves on Wikipedia. Another advantage of your own wiki would be the ability to repeat the course with more students in the future. What aspect of Wikipedia editing do you want to focus your students on? Wikipedia editing is too huge a subject to squeeze into any class of reasonable length. You could fill a whole college major and then some just by marching through everything in the Editor's index. --Teratornis (talk) 23:30, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * For a relatively simple way to install MediaWiki as your personal wiki, see mw:Manual:Wiki on a stick. --Teratornis (talk) 23:37, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

how to post or upload an artilce in wikipedia
How can I upload or post an artilce in wikipeida. I tried many times, but I failed. I need help.

Mr. Khaalnou —Preceding unsigned comment added by Khaalnou (talk • contribs) 21:13, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.


 * Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.


 * If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Your first article and How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. Algebraist 22:00, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Tags for Challenging Neutrality
Where do I find the tags that one can put on pages where the neutrality of an article is in question? Thanks // BL \\ (talk) 22:49, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Neutrality templates. Algebraist 22:51, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you // BL \\ (talk) 23:19, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

How do I display number of edits?
Does anybody know how to display the number of edits on your user page? Arlen22 (talk) 22:57, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Userpageinfo displays a link to a page that gives the number of edits. Also see WP:EIW. --Teratornis (talk) 23:33, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Game walkthrough or simple descriptive page
Could someone take a look at Pokemon rivals and tell me if the article is a "simple descriptive page" or a "game walkthrough"? Astronaut (talk) 23:43, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia does not allow game walkthroughs. (You may create game walkthroughs at GameFAQs ). Thank you. :) -Porchcrop (talk 23:58, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, and if you want to create a great article, see Article development. Cheers. -Porchcrop (talk 00:01, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Er... I know that. It would be great if you could take a look and see if the article I'm talking about is the game walkthrough I think it is, or if it is the "simple descriptive page" the other editor claims it is.  In fact I'm looking for some guidance to whether or not I should AfD the article, request speedy deletion or leave the existing Prod in place and see what happens.  Astronaut (talk) 01:36, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Prodding seems the right approach: it should probably be deleted, but it doesn't fall under any speedy criterion that I can see, and there's no point taking it to AfD unless someone contests the prod. Algebraist 01:54, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
 * (e/c) The article is very, very much a gameguide/howto/manual. It's simply too long, unwieldy, and unencyclopaedic. One must wonder how many people will come by looking for this particular info. A "simple descriptive page" will not be 25 KB (which is approaching the "this article is getting too long" threshold, no?). Anyway, onto the question - I don't think any of the CSDs fit here, so leave it as prod for now. If it's removed, then only then should you bring it to AfD. Xenon54 (talk) 02:00, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Album Covers
I have searched this but I can't find the answer. What is the maximum size allowed for uploading graphics of album covers? 500x500, 600x600..More? Less?  ♫ Яєd   xx   ♪  ♫ ♪  ♫  ♪ Talk 23:52, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Covers need to be sufficiently low resolution to satisfy fair use requirements. This is so the image is too small to be used for nefarious purposes, such as on the cover of a bootleg copy of an album. The image of the cover of Rumours, for example, is 300x300, and Fleetwood Mac is even smaller at 200x195. Aim around there; it shouldn't be too hard to go into Paint or another image editor to reduce the size. Xenon54 (talk) 01:48, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you  ♫  Яєd   xx   ♪  ♫ ♪  ♫  ♪ Talk 02:24, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I use 300px— more than adequate for the use. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 11:07, 20 June 2009 (UTC)