Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2009 June 27

= June 27 =

Please tell me what shouyld I correct in my article about website LyricsMode?
LyricsMode is a comprehensive online music resource which is providing text lyrics for music compositions. At the current moment LyricsMode has more than 700,000 lyrics for more than 30,000 artists and this amount grows day-by-day. About.com rated LyricsMode as best lyrics website. Coscore Media Metrix report about LyricsMode in Top 15 music sites in April 2009.


 * 1) The biggest world archive of song lyrics
 * 2) Artists' updates tracking thru website and email
 * 3) Flash widget -- you can post any lyrics to you blog or website
 * 4) Video for most popular lyrics
 * 5) Request lyrics feature
 * 6) You can submit lyrics to the archive
 * 7) You can register and have a personal profile on LyricsMode

Twitter Official Twitter of LyricsMode is http://twitter.com/lyricsmode_com, which you can follow for hottest news, updates and some interest information.

Widget This Widget you can paste to your Friendster or MySpace page.

How to post a lyric widget to Friendster: Go to your favorite song and copy widget code, then go to friendster dot com and sign in. Click Edit Profile link and go to Customize section, find "Add Media" field and paste your widget code. Save your settings and enjoy.

LyricsMode Mobile

You can use LM Mobile with any cellphone which has internet connection: iPhone, Nokia, Motorolla, LG, Samsung, BlackBerry, ASUS etc. Just get you phone, open internet browser (IE, Opera etc) and go to m.lyricsmode[dot]com At the current moment you can search for lyrics, browse by band and view lyrics. Feel free to vote for the functionality you would want us to implement in LyricsMode Mobile.

Reviews

Review by LeoIvanAcraig For music fans, lyricsmode is the site to visit. It is chancery of song lyrics that comes with additional features to enjoy. In this site, visitors will not only find the lyrics of their favorite songs but also the videos related to it as powered by youtube.com. On the other hand, developers of the site also make it available for users to translate the song lyrics into major foreign languages like German, Portuguese, Chinese and a lot to choose from. Lyrics mode also manage to provide the Top 100 web page where online surfers can find the full listings of leading songs and bands according to hits made by random clickers on the net. Signing up at Lyrics Mode comes for free but even visitors don’t even need to do this in order to enjoy the privileges of the site. Another plus factor for this web place it that it provides info of upcoming albums for the current year. Also, users & visitors have the power to request for the lyrics that they need as well as give meanings of the recently posted lyrics on the site. For music lovers and you tube fanatics, Lyrics Mode is a perfect web place to visit.

Review by EduWikius This is a quick way for me to check if a song is alright to play in class.

Review by Maxigs

Hi and welcome to Lyricsmode where you can get lyrics to thousands and thousands of songs cool huh:) Lyricsmode rules:)

External Links
 * Article in magazine "Home PC"
 * Official Twitter

How do I move a new article from my user page to the "live" Wikipedia??
it may need a tiny bit of editing, but ive been told ... " an article doesnt need to be complete to put in in the live wikipedia"....

.... or could one of you do it for me?? ... also if you recommended some changes - i would surely consider them...

i have a user name ect... let me know ok... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Indepthmusic (talk • contribs)


 * Looks like you figured it out - Opafire. – ukexpat (talk) 00:23, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

make a link to a reference
How do i make a link to a refernce? You will see on the wikipage b-tree. its where HFS+ is. Thanks


 * The easiest way to make a web reference is to insert " " in the text you're citing. So something like this:


 * Everybody likes purple pigs.


 * Would produce the following:


 * Everybody likes purple pigs.


 * If you're referencing a website, just do " . For example:


 * Everybody likes purple pigs.


 * See also WP:REF, as well as Template:Cite web and Template:Cite book. a little   insignificant  01:50, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!

Controlling use of non-free images
Is there a process to make a community decision that a non-free image which is appropriate on one article is not appropriate on another? As an example consider File:Pinterdvd.jpg, the cover of the DVD of Harold Pinter's Nobel lecture. It is clearly appropriate for identification of Art, Truth & Politics, the article on the DVd. I believe, however, that it fails WP:NFCC for its use on Harold Pinter, but the uploader insists on using it there. The problem is discussed more generally at Wikipedia talk:Non-free content review. If as I suspect, there is presently no process for doing this, where should one seek such a process? —teb728 t c 06:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Whay Images doesn't disply in any web browsers?
Hi 4 all, I used to use wikipedia alot last year because I'm an IT trainer. this year I noticed that no matter what browser you use, i.e. IE6/7/8, Firefox, Safari, Opera. and under any OS platform I tried i.e. WinXP, Vista, Win 7 Ultimate build 7100. I always get a placeholder in place any image (even *.jpg pictures) and in any web page in wikipedia which is an X mark inside a box rather than displaying the right image. This issue doesn't happen with other sites like intel, microsoft, asus, amd, etc.. So is there any specefic program or application or decoder should I install before using wikipedia site. or is there any solution 4 this matter that I can do to solve this problem. Plz help me with that probem? Thanx 4 all. 14:15, 27 June 2009 (UTC)88.86.31.160 (talk) Akram
 * Images work fine for me (Firefox 3 on Linux, Google Chrome on Windows XP). Maybe there's some filtering software at your workplace that's preventing images getting through?
 * Cheers, This flag once was redpropagandadeeds 14:58, 27 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Images are on a separate server which may be blocked by your computer/ISP/country. What happens when you click on for example http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fd/Michael_Jackson_1984_cropped.jpg? You should be seeing a Michael Jackson image currently displayed on the main page and File:Michael Jackson 1984 cropped.jpg. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:22, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanx PrimeHunter, u r right. I've tried to click the link u provided, and a filter from the ISP web page displayed instead of the King image, any way, thanx alot and I'll talk to the ISP Administrators about that. Akram —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.86.31.161 (talk) 14:44, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The image I linked to was actually deleted today 10 hours before your post. Here is another example which is unlikely to be deleted although I don't know whether the url can change: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a9/Example.jpg displayed on File:Example.jpg. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:58, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Hans1928
I cannot acess talk —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hans1928 (talk • contribs)


 * Which talk, article talk page, user talk page? Please be more specific. Thanks. – ukexpat (talk) 15:49, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Town Song Composer--May I Add My Info To My Town's Page?
I know Wiki advises against submitting biographical info, hence my question. A song I composed was officially named my town's Town Song. Other town song writers across my state are credited on their town's Wiki pages.

May I add to my town's page that my song is the Official Town Song and give my name as composer?

Thank you!

96.233.89.219 (talk) 15:56, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Are there any sources that can verify that you have been credited as the composer of the town's song? Thank you for asking here before acting, all the best SpitfireTally-ho! 16:08, 27 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Of course, as long as you're careful in your wording. The reason Wikipedia doesn't encourage submitting info about oneself is there may be a conflict on interest, and people may try to "buff up" any information they submit. So as long as you don't write, "Song Name is the official town song. Is is the best song ever.", and you have a reliable source to back it up, you're fine. Thanks for posting this question, and remember to be bold. :) a little   insignificant  16:10, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * If you tell me your name I can try and find you a source, all the best SpitfireTally-ho! 16:20, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * PS, the first two lines of the song aren't by any chance:
 * The City walks in queenly state,
 * Rejoice, O children free!
 * ? SpitfireTally-ho! 16:25, 27 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Dear Spitfire--thank you for your offer. My name is Cinzi Lavin and the song is "Underneath a Hullonian Sky" for the town of Hull, Massachusetts. The town's website has a link explaining that the song was named the town song, and the Quincy Patriot-Ledger as well as the Hull Times publicized the event. It's even on YouTube. Much appreciation! -Cinzi —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.233.89.219 (talk) 21:33, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay, thanks a lot for providing your name and that of the town, I've now added the information to the article, all the best SpitfireTally-ho! 06:57, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

saif ur rahman
Good Evening, I am Musharraf From UAE. Plese can you give details of Hazrat Saif-ur-Rahman Saifi. where are they in pakistan. now a days. ???plzzzzzzzz. thanks very much ~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.96.226.88 (talk) 16:52, 27 June 2009
 * [[Image:Symbol move vote.svg|20px]] This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try  for an article related to the topic you want to know more about.  I hope this helps.  Astronaut (talk) 18:20, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

IMDb infobox stuff
At the bottom of infoboxes there is an IMDb title thing, which I assume makes the external link to the IMDb page appear at the bottom of the infobox. Anyway, I tried to do it to this film, Burke & Hare (film) but it didn't work. Does anybody know what I did wrong. Spongefrog,  (talk to me, or else)  17:12, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You didn't do anything wrong, the external links to resources such as the Internet Movie Database, Allmovie and any official website are no longer included in the infobox, you can add the links to the external links section instead though. You can see the disscussion here Template talk:Infobox Film/Archive 12 SpitfireTally-ho! 17:22, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I saw the IMDb thing on some other movie articles and thought I could do it to this. But apparently not. Thanks anyway, and thanks for the direct link. Spongefrog,   (talk to me, or else)  20:20, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * See also Template:Infobox Film. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:28, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Animated Gifs
Are animated Gifs to be avoided in Wikipedia articles (eg: File:Punjab police flag.gif as used in Punjab Police (Pakistan))? Astronaut (talk) 18:11, 27 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The answer is yes and no. Images such as [[File:VolRenderShearWarp.gif]] are animated GIFS and still managed to make it to featured pictures. However, animated images should have a clear extra value for the article. The image i mentioned does this trough giving a clear view of a mouse skull from each direction; A normal non animated image would clearly give less information then this version. In the case of the animated flag the animation provides little to no extra information, and is distracting rather then informative. Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 18:46, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

How to edit the reflist in a
Notes== section ==

Hi, I'd like to edit the URL to a resource listed on the "Orion (constellation)" page. However, when I click the [edit] link, I get a page as follows:

Hi,

I need to edit a footnote on the Orion (constellation) page; when I click the 'edit' link I get to a page that contains only

' Notes ' ' reflist  '

and I don't seem to be able to list itself.

I need to change footnote 2; the old URL was http://www.psychohistorian.org/astronomy/3konings.html

while the new one is

http://www.psychohistorian.org/astronomy/ethnoastronomy/three_kings_cape_clouds.php

Thanks, Auke Auke Slotegraaf (talk) 18:55, 27 June 2009 (UTC) Auke Slotegraaf (talk) 18:58, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * See Help:Footnotes. Algebraist 18:58, 27 June 2009 (UTC)


 * (ec) Hi, the URL you are looking for is within the article itself. To find it, click on the small arrow (^) next to the reference; that will bring you to the section where the reference is used. Then click on the "[edit]" link of the section and update the URL. Laurent (talk) 19:00, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Found Jobs?????!!!!
Hi....I just wandering....Here a jobs only is mostly for the Men....Because i am Woman,and when i go at this site and try it to found out some job,which one can match for me,butseems tome all jobs is for Gentelments ony.....Why??? Please contact with me: ...Lyudmila.Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.139.1.12 (talk) 19:47, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Algebraist 19:51, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Separate accounts for French and English
Do I need separate accounts for the English and French Wikipedias? I cannot log into the French one using my American username and password. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Monelle (talk • contribs) 20:00, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * See Unified login. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:23, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Making a box
How do you create a box? - Presidentman (talk) Random Picture of the Day 20:30, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * What sort of box? Algebraist 20:34, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * A outline-like box. - Presidentman (talk) Random Picture of the Day 20:35, 27 June 2009 (UTC)


 * OK you will need to be much more specific - an Infobox, Navbox, Succession box? – ukexpat (talk) 20:40, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * No, no, not like that, a simple box to go around somethingh (e.g. a picture with a description). - Presidentman (talk) Random Picture of the Day 20:42, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Just thumb the image, thus. Example.jpg Algebraist 20:47, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * No, I want like an outline. - Presidentman (talk) Random Picture of the Day 20:49, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * That image is surrounded by an outline. How does what you want differ from it? Algebraist 20:50, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't want it where the outline touches the image & description, I want a line a little out from the image & description. That's not a outline, that's a thumbnail. - Presidentman (talk) Random Picture of the Day 20:57, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

(undent) Do you want something like in WP:GALLERY? --Teratornis (talk) 21:01, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * No, not what I was looking for either, I mean like a thin line around something. - Presidentman (talk) Random Picture of the Day 21:07, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * See Help:Table. Why do you want to do this? --Teratornis (talk) 21:12, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * No, not a table. - Presidentman (talk) Random Picture of the Day 21:17, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * A table with a single cell can be a flexible way to create a box around something. Do you want it for a Wikipedia article? If so then you should probably use normal Wikipedia image markup. See Extended image syntax for some options. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:33, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * No, not that either. I want it for The Random Picture of the Day. - Presidentman (talk) Random Picture of the Day 10:50, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Below is an example of how to use a table with one cell. There are more table options at Help:Table. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:28, 28 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Great! Thanks - Presidentman (talk) Random Picture of the Day 11:30, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

finding references to my new article in other articles
if I search a term in wikipedia that doesnt exist, I get a list of articles that contain that term ...and then I write the article, but when I then want to go back and find the original list to make links to my new article. How to I serach for articles contain my new topic? Earlypsychosis (talk) 21:25, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Click the "Search" button below the search box. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:06, 27 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I dont think you understand the question. Lets say I know about a thing called "fun dog".  A current search does this but once the wikipedia article is written the search will direct me to the new article and I cant then find the links from before.  Earlypsychosis (talk) 02:44, 28 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I dont think you understand the answer. Let me use bold: Click the "Search" button below the search box. Don't click the "Go" button, don't click Enter or Return on your keyboard. Does this help? PrimeHunter (talk) 02:50, 28 June 2009 (UTC)


 * sorry. understood now.  thanks for your help (I was about to cross out my response above)  Earlypsychosis (talk) 02:54, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I used this answer just today - I searched for Kerry Bascom, some time ago, confirmed there was no page, and started one. Now that it exists, I entered her name, did not click go, but search, and found the various pages referencing her name. I then edited those pages to wikify her name in the other locations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sphilbrick (talk • contribs)

Unanswered AN quest
My complaint was archived, unanswered, in this Administrators' noticeboard archive. Does this mean that I won't be blocked again if I "dare" to edit an article in which I had a content dispute with an admin (actually, the same admin who blocked me before Fred Bauder unblocked my account)? --Thantalteresco (talk) 21:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

P.S. I don't know what this (pseudo-)"Resolved" means at the top of another board. --Thantalteresco (talk) 22:03, 27 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm curious to know when we're going to see these film edits that were going to prove you're not a SPA. Orderinchaos 01:00, 28 June 2009 (UTC)


 * This is totally unresponsive and irrelevant to the above quest (and I have a few of them BTW). Thantalteresco (talk) 01:30, 28 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Out of 91 edits, only 14 are not related to infanticide or your subsequent posting about your block etc. On your home wiki, out of 77 edits, all but one are either related to infanticide or Scientology (a topic you presumably can't edit on here because of the ArbCom restrictions), or attempting to solicit editors there to fight your battles here. I would respectfully suggest that you are, at present, a textbook example of a POV-pushing, disruptive SPA and wasting the time of Wikipedia's editors and administrators unless and until your status in this regard changes - i.e. if you edit in other areas of the encyclopaedia and edit in ways that draw less attention to yourself. Orderinchaos 05:27, 28 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Whoops! I am *not* a scientologist! Show me one disruptive diff. i have none. And again unresponsive of the issue. I guess I'm going to another board. Thantalteresco (talk) 11:15, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Michael Jackson contribution
Minutes ago, I posted the current event template (the second one) on Michael Jackson's article. I noticed the article was "semi-protected." What does this mean? Does this mean my edits are screened by another Wikpedia user?--Ractogon (talk) 22:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Edits are always monitored, no matter the protection level. Thats what the vandalism patrols have WP:HUGGLE for :). Semi protection is one of the three page (edit) protection levels. The lowest level is unprotected, and this is what you find on most article's; Unprotected article's are freely editable by anyone. The next thing, Semi protection means that only established editors can edit a page, which means that any IP user or unconfirmed account cannot edit the page - most times this is used for heavy vandalism or any other reason that warrants protection. The last protection level, full protection, means that only administrators and higher roles can edit a page. - Mainly used in high visibility pages and edit warring.


 * Other then that we have move protection which prevents an article from being moved, and screate protection (also called salting which prevents a page with a specific title from being created. For more details, please see WP:PROT Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 22:54, 27 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the info. Guess I'm an established editor myself! And thanks for the notice on my talk page; it came in handy.--Ractogon (talk) 22:58, 27 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Your welcome :). As for the established editor part: An account which has made 10 edits and has been around for 4 days is an established / autoconfirmed editor. Its actually a safety mechanism that prevents creating a lot of throw away accounts on a dynamic IP in order to prevent protection levels. Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 23:05, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

How to create a userbox
I have created a template on my userpage, and I want to make a userbox out of it. How would I publish it on the encyclpedia as a page/link?

Its an "upgrade" of another userbox.-Ractogon (talk) 23:13, 27 June 2009 (UTC)


 * See WP:USERBOX and WP:JOU. Also see how the Counter-Vandalism Unit handles its userboxes. Many WikiProjects have their own collections. --Teratornis (talk) 23:23, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

How long?
How long approximately does an article need to be? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dwight1555 (talk • contribs) 23:14, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * See WP:SIZE. Algebraist 23:16, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I suspect the question is about a lower limit. See Stub but note that articles are generally not deleted for being too short but for failing guidelines like Notability. Your article The Parodizers was speedily deleted for failing the lower standard in Criteria for speedy deletion. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:27, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * If you cite reliable sources indicating why the subject is important, it's less likely to be deleted. a little   insignificant  01:06, 28 June 2009 (UTC)