Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2009 March 5

= March 5 =

Help with redirect/shortcut mess
I think that I messed up and need help recovering. There has been a long-standing redirect WT:RD for the Reference desk talk page. Wanting to make it more visible and available to others I tried without success to make that link into a shortcut (with its top of the page notice/advert and all). So, I thought I could outwit the Wiki software by creating a shortcut named WP:RDTK (which worked fine as a shortcut) and thought that I could then move that shortcut name to the more preferable WT:RD name. Well, stupid me - of course I wouldn't be allowed to do that because WT:RD was already taken. Rather than messing around and possibly making things worse I thought that by begging forgiveness here that someone would be sympathetic and fix this without calling too much attention to my screw-up to the community at large :-( Thank you, -hydnjo talk 23:04, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * If I understand this correctly, there are two steps you can take to put everything back the way it was. Simply remove the from the top of reference desk talk page and mark WP:RDTK with  (author requesting deletion). You can also change the  to say , which should provide the correct redirect. I don't think it's a major problem, however. The only issue I see is that the templates at the top of the talk page appear to overlap a little, but there's nothing that can't be fixed. Hopefully I've understood your question, but let me know if there's something I missed. Best,  TN X Man  23:21, 4 March 2009 (UTC)


 * OK thanks, I hope I didn't make any triple redirects on the way! ;-)  hydnjo talk 23:56, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, and thanks for your helpful edit ;-) hydnjo talk 00:07, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Not a problem. Happy editing! TN X Man  00:28, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Talking to an administrator
Does anyone know how to contact an administrator? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jss5104 (talk • contribs) 23:38, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Right this way, please. TN X Man  23:39, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Editing organisational pages
Hi, I am an employee of an organisation and have been asked to overhaul our Wiki page. The information is badly out of date and there are major omissions. Basically I need to completely re-write and add to what is there. I am aware that when an organisation makes major edits to it's own Wiki entry it can sometimes be seen as unethical. Can you please tell me what the policy is on this and if there is some way that I should indicate that the page was edited by an employee?

Yours sincerely David Wiltshire —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dwiltshi (talk • contribs) 00:09, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The relevant guideline is Conflict of interest. Basically, you are strongly discouraged from editing the article on your own organization, and if the edits are seen as problematic, you'll get substantially less leeway. It would be much more advisable than editing the article yourself to suggest changes on the talk page of the article, assuming the talk page is well trafficked by other editors. If that doesn't suit you, you can also write what you think the article should look like in your userspace, and then suggest that on the talk page, or ask for feedback at Drawing board. The key concepts for someone in your position to keep in mind is that article content is supposed to be based on reliable sources, and the content must be neutral (part of that being, it must honestly report what reliable sources say, and not be littered with subjective terminology). These concepts tend to cause a lot of the trouble for users like yourself; you have to keep in mind that press releases and the company's official website are not reliable sources (they're find for mundane factoids like John is the CEO, but not XYZ corporation is the most respected manufacturer of widgets in the world). The prefered sources tend to be books and journals from academic publishers, newspapers, industry and trade magazines, etc. You're also unlikely to see negative information about the organization removed if it cites a reliable source. Someguy1221 (talk) 00:22, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I appreciate the advise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dwiltshi (talk • contribs) 02:48, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Also see WP:BFAQ, and note that general advice can be off the mark by varying degrees in specific situations. You did not tell us the organization that you work for. If our information about that organization is badly out of date, that suggests the organization is not very (what we call) notable. On Wikipedia, the degree to which a principle like conflict of interest matters is a function of how often a particular article gets viewed. If an article contains badly outdated information, the article probably doesn't get much attention. In that case, a correction from someone associated with the article's subject may be better than no correction at all. Wikipedia also has many articles on Religion and you can bet most of them get edited by people who have a vested interest in promoting their religious points of view. On Wikipedia, people write about the countries they live in, their favorite entertainers, their local sports teams, and all sorts of things they are hardly neutral about. If we eliminated all conflict of interest on Wikipedia, we'd eliminate much of Wikipedia. Therefore, in my opinion, the key is learning how to manage our inevitable conflicts of interest, both as individuals and as a community of users. You did the right thing by coming forward and disclosing your relationship with your employer; you should also do so on your user page if you intend to edit the article about your employer. I think your willingness to disclose makes you more potentially able to contribute productively than someone who isn't even aware that they have a conflict of interest or that it might be a problem. However, read WP:COI and WP:BFAQ carefully, as the pitfalls of COI are subtle. Read WP:PEACOCK for examples of the promotional writing style to avoid. As with everything about Wikipedia, it all gets easier as you learn more about how Wikipedia works. For a comprehensive introduction, read Wikipedia: The Missing Manual. By putting in the time and effort to read that book, you would be demonstrating seriousness about Wikipedia and good faith. --Teratornis (talk) 05:30, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Revert vandelism "to last version by____"
How do I revert article vandelism "to last version by____" or "to last good version by _____" going back three or four edits (for example)? I assume the words "to last good version by _____ " are automatically generated (somehow) if the proper steps are done. Lets say I want to go back four edits to the last known good version before all the vandelism started. Can you tell me how to do that without just clicking on "undo" - which is only for one edit back. I assume it then generates automatically the words "to last good version by _____." You can answer HERE. Thanks. --Doug Coldwell talk 00:15, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * If you notice the little buttons between (cur)(prev) and the date in the history, you can select two revisions to compare. If the later revision is the latest revision to the page, pressing undo while viewing the diff will undo the entire series of edits. Just make sure that no good edits were made in the meantime. Someguy1221 (talk) 00:24, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Some of these messages were left by people using wiki editing tools. See Category:Wikipedia counter-vandalism tools.  --Jayron32. talk . contribs  02:28, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Following that procedure, if I go back more that one edit it says "The edit could not be undone due to conflicting intermediate edits." Still stumped! --Doug Coldwell talk 20:13, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't know what tool leaves that particular edit summary - I've seen it, too - but popups is a good one for reverting tag-team vandalism. Its 'actions' menu will let you revert to a diff from the comparison view or right from the page history.  -- Vary  Talk 21:37, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I use Twinkle, which offers me a "Restore this version" link when browsing versions of an article's edit history. I can click this to revert to old versions of an article that has since been damaged by multiple users. You can see an example of where I did this here. Basically, above the "Version as of (whenever)" on a diff page, I have a link saying "Restore this version". Does that help? Gonzonoir (talk) 22:42, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Doug Coldwell, you could also investigate asking for rollback permissions. Those would get you round the "intermediate edits" problem in cases where you were trying to undo multiple edits by the same user, because they let you revert consecutive vandalism edits by a single user. I'm not sure, but I think rollback may be necessary for the function I described in Twinkle to work as well. Gonzonoir (talk) 22:49, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Great tools! Thanks.--Doug Coldwell talk 23:20, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Can anyone fix this problem?
I addressed the problem at the article's talk page, but no one bothered to answer, so I thought I'd get a response here. Do you mind checking my comment at the following talk page (scroll down to the end; the last entry is mine) - here it is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Republican_Party_(United_States) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.232.58.180 (talk) 01:03, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Fixed in . I don't know the details of how works but I compared to Democratic Party (United States) and found that adding a space at the end of a line fixed it. Maybe the problem was that a timeline image was not stored correctly somewhere, and many other tiny changes could have fixed it too by generating a new timeline image, but that's just speculation. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:37, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * By the way, there were 82 minutes between your post to the talk page and here. Wikipedia has millions of pages and talk page posts usually don't get responses that fast. On low traffic pages they may never get a response. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:42, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Good work! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.232.58.180 (talk) 01:57, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

What font do I need installed for Wikipedia?
Wikipedia is using a very strange font on my PC. I obviously don't have the right font installed. Can you give me some choices?? Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.146.83.153 (talk) 01:12, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * It should be Arial, and on my Vista PC looks Amazing. I wish they'd never change it --96.232.58.180 (talk) 01:15, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * It should be your browser's default sanserif font. If it looks strange, it might be because that default is set to something weird. Algebraist 01:41, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

utorrent
how to open utorrent file which is downloading without installing utorrent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.197.240.89 (talk) 03:34, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Have you tried the computing section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:13, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

transgender operation terminology
In the transgender operation from male to female, the new female has to do something called dilate and has to use 'medical stints.' what exactly is this medical stint she is placing in her newly made vagina? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.185.26.212 (talk • contribs) 03:53, 5 March 2009


 * It's a stent, but the Help Desk is for questions about using Wikipedia. For general questions, you want the Reference Desk. --Fullobeans (talk) 04:09, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Again, for future knowledge questions, please ask at the reference desk, linked by Fullobeans above, but please see .--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:12, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * See Sex reassignment surgery, Transgender sidebar, and Medical disclaimer. --Teratornis (talk) 05:39, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Editing & using DVDs & video for references
I want to submit & edit articles by adding references from DVDs & videos. Will the editing policy allow that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Frostviper (talk • contribs) 05:03, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * See WP:CITET, especially the template for DVDs. Not sure if we have a similar one for video tapes, but as long as they're commercially released, you're good. - Mgm|(talk) 05:41, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * More precisely, you're not bad when it comes to one potential source of problems, but there are other gotchas. For example, if you cite a DVD to support a factual claim that the Earth is flat, you can expect other editors to challenge your claim on factual grounds. You could cite a source to prove that some particular person or group thinks the Earth is flat, but to assert the flatness of the Earth as a factual claim, you would have to find sources that could somehow overpower the existing scientific consensus. If you told us more about kinds of edits you want to make, what sources you want to use, and what they claim, we might provide more specific advice about the type of reaction you might expect from other editors. --Teratornis (talk) 05:47, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Bot reverting to vandalized version
Please, take a look at this. How to fix it? 81.95.228.239 (talk) 06:31, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Somebody has fixed it. The reason the bot reverted is undoubtedly that it suspects major content deletion by anonymous editors.
 * It would be nice if an admin could hide the 400KB versions; it takes forever to download them. —teb728 t c 06:52, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:48, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

laser
where can i find total information of laser communicatios —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sathishbabug (talk • contribs) 06:56, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * We don't appear to have an article devoted to Laser communications, though you can find brief discussion at Mars Laser Communication Demonstration. Please also try the Science and Computing areas of the Reference desk, which specialize in answering knowledge questions. (This page is intended for questions about how to use Wikipedia.) Gonzonoir (talk) 09:56, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

hey there
um i new to wikipedia and instead of writing articles i wil probaly delete vandalism can someone give me advice how to find and delete vandalisms oh and btw if you're lookiing for an adoptee look no further :) AntiFetch (talk) 08:34, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi AntiFetch, welcome to Wikipedia. A good place to start is our vandalism guide. That sets out details on how to recognise and respond to vandalism. As you'll see, it suggests you consider patrolling the recent changes list, a record of all the latest edits to Wikipedia and a good place to catch vandalism as soon as it happens. You will also find useful a list of warning messages to use for vandalism, and this guide to cleaning up vandalism. Always remember to assume good faith, treat everyone you come across with civility, and ask for help when you need it. Good luck! Gonzonoir (talk) 09:01, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

cymbalta
should somebody stop taking cymbalta cold turkey —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.80.187.84 (talk) 08:51, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Pictogram voting delete.svg|20px]] We cannot offer medical advice. Please see the medical disclaimer. Contact your General Practitioner. Gonzonoir (talk) 08:54, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

how to submit a new article in wikipedia
… —Preceding unsigned comment added by Himanshu.paliwal83 (talk • contribs) 09:22, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Please read Your first article - this page both has technical instructions on how to do it, and recommendations on how to create one that won't get deleted. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:42, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Standard template message follows:
 * Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
 * Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.


 * Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.


 * If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Your first article and How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. – ukexpat (talk) 15:47, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Online Recharge for prepaid mobile phone & DTH services in India
is india's first of it's kind website that provides instant online recharge for pre-paid mobiles and DTH services. We are currently... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Himanshu.paliwal83 (talk • contribs)
 * [[Image:Information.svg|25px|]] Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, please do not add promotional material to articles or other Wikipedia pages. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" is strongly discouraged. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia.  עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:59, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Page rank
Is Wikipedia popular just because google favours it? Also, is the priority in page rank natural or are they making it on top at all costs? (As a side question... it's weird, especially if google wants to compete with knoll, to still favour Wikipedia, isn't it?) 212.219.0.20 (talk) 11:08, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Have you tried the Computing section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 11:12, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * You start with the wrong assumption: "Is Wikipedia popular just because google favours it?" Google favors Wikipedia in its listings because it's popular. The more other people link to a site, the higher it ends up in the search results and Wikipedia is often linked. Together with its traffic statistics, it's unlikely for Wikipedia pages to not come top in the rankings. See Google PageRank.- Mgm|(talk) 11:47, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is run by the non-profit Wikimedia Foundation and as far as I know, they don't do anything to advertise the site on other sites or manipulate search engine rankings. Wikipedia uses the nofollow attribute to reduce the incentive to place spam links in Wikipedia (spam is still a big problem), but I have seen somebody accuse Wikipedia of doing it to suck up page rank from incoming links without giving out page rank with outgoing links. Apart from being popular and getting many incoming links, I think Wikipedia has several properties search engines like, for example page titles and url names containing the topic of the page, and internal wikilinks from articles with related content, but that is just part of being user friendly and well structured. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:36, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I can't remember where I read it, but I read somewhere that Google ranks Wikipedia articles high because Google's business model depends on the Web not sucking, and Wikipedia sucks less than most of the Web. Pick a sample of subjects, look up their Wikipedia articles, and compare the Wikipedia articles to what you find elsewhere in the top 20 or so Google search results on the same keywords. In many cases, random Web site results tend to be frustrating and annoying because they don't follow any standard layout, and many blog pages and so on read as if you stumbled into the middle of a conversation after missing the first half. On Wikipedia, we try to write every article so it becomes a logical starting point into learning about its subject. Very few pages on other sites have that same self-contained, stand-alone character, so it is no wonder that Google ranks Wikipedia pages high. Whether this is due to deliberate finagling by Google or merely a result of the PageRank algorithm, the result is what it should be. Google needs search results to be consistently satisfying, so users keep coming back to Google for more searches, and (eventually) more AdSense click-throughs. That's how Google makes its money. Google makes money by linking to pages that don't suck, and Wikipedia generally doesn't suck, compared to the rest of the Web. As to whether Google is undermining its own Knol initiative, consider that Google exists to maximize its profits. If it can make more money by linking to Wikipedia pages, that's what Google will do. Google is a big company that can afford to try lots of things. Only a fraction of Google products need to become hits. Wikipedia has a big head start on Knol, so Knol will probably take a long time to catch up, and nobody knows whether it will ever catch up (Wikipedia is not exactly standing still). --Teratornis (talk) 09:57, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

vandal warn
I see a lot of this "Example.jpg" stuff in recent changes. this. I am correct in saying it's vandalism and should be reverted aren't I? (didn't revert any yet - clarifying first) — Ched ~ (yes?) 11:42, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Probably not vandalism. It often happens that someone tries out buttons and doesn't notice the changes it makes. But yet. Quite often using example.jpg is unsuitable and should be removed. Missing images in bio articles can be replaced with a more specific "this bio is missing an image"-image though. - Mgm|(talk) 11:45, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks to me like a test edit. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 12:25, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you both, Mac Magic, and Mishehu. Have a good day today, and a better one tomorrow ;)— Ched ~  (yes?) 12:45, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually consensus appears to be against using the placeholder images in bios: WP:Centralized discussion/Image placeholders. – ukexpat (talk) 15:01, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

New title
How do I change the titile of a page that I have created once it is already made public?? Ex. nano indenter to nanoindenter(one word). Please help, thank you in advance Volvera215 (talk) 15:24, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Use the "Move" tab on the top; see Help:Move. – Capricorn42 ( talk ) 15:26, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) You will have to move the page to the new title. There should be a "move" tab at the top of the page that should allow you to move the page (assuming the title you want isn't taken). Also, your account needs to be autoconfirmed before you can move pages. TN X Man  15:27, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * From a quick Google, there does not appear to be any uniformity of use of the terms "nano indenter", "nano-indenter" or "nanonindenter" – ukexpat (talk) 15:43, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you both for your help and info., I really appreciate it. Volvera215 (talk) 20:14, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

The method of preparation for yaga kondam - how to make the yagna oma kundan?
I hear there are different ways for making oma kundan for various -different dities and performing yagna for various auspicies ceremonies. I have one "Agni hothria" homam - description of how to make the homa vessel out of brass the height, the weight ,sizes shape etc. I want to know how many types of Homa Kundams are available and their specifications etc. Pl reply  =  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.48.29.78 (talk) 16:17, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. TN X Man  16:19, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Categorisation of articles
Hi, I was wondering if there is a way to search out all articles, containing the tag Trinity College, Cambridge, which do not contain the cats, Alumni of Trinity College, Cambridge, or Academics of Trinity College, Cambridge. If I could filter such articles out then this would enable me to go round and add cats where appropriate. 79.67.228.216 (talk) 16:35, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * See CatScan. - Mgm|(talk) 16:57, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

About usernames and IP addresses
I'm a long-time anon browser, very new user (just registered last night), and I have a question regarding usernames and IP addresses. Are any IP addresses I use to acccess my wiki account under logged and noted for future review?

The reason I ask is because the company I work for (not gonna name names) appears to be highly active on wiki and has been accused (rightly) of POV pushing and hostile edits and reverts to keep their information intact. I'm just a lowly button-pusher and have no interest in what my company does with their time, however if I access my account from work could my username potentially be linked to any activit ythey generate on their wiki page? I guess, to put it another way, if they get themselves banned or whatever happens here, can my username potentially be banned as well, as having used this IP address in the past?

Obviously I would mostly be accessing from home, however I do have spare time during the day. I just didn't want to be lumped into the...ah...STRONG opinions of my company.

Hope this is the right spot for the question. I spent some time poking around, and this was the best fit for my question I could find. Please feel free to direct me elsewhere if I'm wrong. Helixical (talk) 17:16, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, first of all, welcome! Secondly, now that you've registered an account, there isn't too much worry about your IP being traced. There are certain users (known as checkusers) who can see which IP addresses are associated with which usernames, but that is only done to rare cases to prevent vandalism. Basically, having account allows you to distance yourself from your IP address. If no one has done so already, I'll leave you a welcome message with useful links on your talk page to get you started. Best, TN X Man  17:30, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I was afraid I came off too tinfoil-hat-conspiracy-theory there, but that's very helpful.  Thanks, too, for the links.  They'll surely come in handy!  Best, Helixical (talk) 17:37, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

How do I?
how do i put something on wikipedia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.185.87.170 (talk) 17:30, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
 * You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.


 * Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.


 * If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Your first article and How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. TN X Man  17:31, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Indigo Children
Just a note:

I'm Lee Carroll, author of the books on Indigo Children. I have twice corrected misinformation on the page about Indigo Children.

The colors seen are not auras, and never were. I reported this in the first book 10 years ago, but it continues to be reported as auras within the description. The Indigo Children have nothing whatsoever to do with auras.

If the author and creator of the term INDIGO CHILDREN can't go in and correct misinformation, what is the value of Wikipedia? I didn't change anything but those items, and I added another book that I have written on the subject.

I give up.

Very Sorry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lcarroll (talk • contribs) 18:48, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * It's not as simple as that - you need reliable sources for your changes and they need to be appropriately cited. The reason for this is that, with all due respect, we only have your word that you are who you say you are. The same would apply if someone saying they were Bill Gates began editing Bill Gates or Microsoft etc. – ukexpat (talk) 19:21, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * There it is! Some time back someone said they were an "indigo adult".  Well I couldn't find anything on wikipedia searching that and google returned junk.  Apparently the key word is changing adult to child and suddenly there's a nice wikipedia article.  Are you ready for IPv6? (talk) 04:15, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Links - Internal and External
In HTML there is a code one can insert in the WIKIPEDIA  --Paine (talk) 18:59, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * No, I don't think so. Algebraist 19:03, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I have not tried this, but it purports to do what you want: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/10446 --——  Gadget850 (Ed)  <sup style="color:darkblue;">talk  -  20:29, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you,  Gadget850 (Ed) ! I'll give it a try and let you know. --Paine (talk) 00:58, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Northwest Province - Bamenda.jpg
I want to suggest to move File:Northwest Province - Bamenda.jpg to Commons.

-- David Moerike (talk) 20:36, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * If that's the case, you can tag the image with . You can also perform the move yourself. See this page for more info. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  21:04, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

How do category pages work?
I was just wondering, how do they work... I mean, if you want to add a name, where appropriate, how do you do it? Is it automatic, and how so. You know, it was kinda funny....it seems as if the names self-display! -71.190.87.92 (talk) 22:50, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * See Help:Category. Algebraist 22:53, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) Categories automatically list articles that are contained within them. For example, Pekel cave belongs to the category Category:Caves of Slovenia. So when you look at the category, you see Pekel cave as well as any other articles in the category. To add an article to a category, simply add to the bottom of the page. See Help:Categories for more.  TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  22:56, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, Categories can themselves be in categories. For example, Category:Caves of Slovenia is in turn a subcategory of Category:Landforms of Slovenia.  TastyCakes (talk) 23:00, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Also, if it seems as if the names "self display" without a Category command, it's possible that the is in a Template and its been transcluded to the page.  In that case, you won't find the Category command in the article, but rest assured its in one of the templates used in the article.  TastyCakes (talk) 23:03, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

trying to download a photo
I would like to put my mother's picture in her article. (Mary Evelyn Parker) I can't seem to figure out how to do it. HELP. THANKS! Anne Parker Crochet Baton Rouge, LA —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anneparker1959 (talk • contribs) 23:27, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
 * The best thing to do is to upload a photo that you have made to Upload. You will need to release it to the public domain or license it under a free license like Creative Commons. (A photo by a professional photographer may have copyright problems.) Then you can reference it by the file name in the infobox of your mother’s article. —teb728 t c 23:45, 5 March 2009 (UTC)