Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2009 May 11

= May 11 =

Hiring a developer
I wish to hire a developer to fix bug 1605. I have asked about it by e-mailing info@undefinedwikimedia.org and was told that they do not provide service in return for a donation, but according to this discussion, that might not be true. Since bug 1605 seems like it will never get fixed, I was willing to hire a developer to get it done. If hiring a developer will significantly accelerate the process of fixing bug 1605, then how much should I pay? Also see https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1605#c48 -- IRP ☎ 00:21, 11 May 2009 (UTC), modified 00:25, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Your question is probably beyond the scope of the Help desk. I can't understand from the discussion why this feature would be necessary. The example application in comment 3 seems kind of pointless since you can do the same thing with subpages. That is, just make the template transclude a subpage, and the template can link to the edit command for the subpage. --Teratornis (talk) 02:01, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd say you get better response& discussion on Village pump (technical) or Village pump (proposals).  hmwith  τ   02:12, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Mistakes made with AWB
Help? I made a really bad mistake using AWB. Because of a mistake in the creation of a regular expression I changed and unknown number of level three headers to become level two headers. There might be over a thousand pages involved. Is there a way to roll back that may edits. Waiting is only going to make things worse. I'll watch his page. I left a note at the village pump before I thought of coming here. -- droll  &#91;chat&#93;  00:42, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You should request rollback rights at Requests for permissions/Rollback. It will make reverting your mistakes much easier. -- IRP ☎ 01:50, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. I think I can handle it. I've fixed about 700 already. Only about 1 in 12 of the articles have a problem. I want to get it done ASAP. I'll look into the rollback thing though. Thanks. -- droll  &#91;chat&#93;  02:02, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I've given you rollback rights. Should make the job a bit easier. :) – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 04:16, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Putting a picture in a article
How do I put a picture from my desktop to the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by TehWolf39 (talk • contribs) 01:18, 11 May 2009 (UTC)


 * First you have to upload the image to Wikipedia, but before you do that read the non-free use policy to make sure that the intended use of the images meets one of the rationales. When it's uploaded, take a look at WP:IMAGE to see how to add it to the article. – ukexpat (talk) 01:32, 11 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Forgot to mention that to upload to Wikipedia your account has to be autoconfirmed. If the image is one you have created yourself, you should upload it to Commons so that it is available for use on all Wikimedia projects. Commons does not have an autoconfirmation requirement. – ukexpat (talk) 02:40, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Obsessed talk page
This has only 3 paragraphs when you look at the page, but it should have 6 or so...

You can see them when you go to edit the page, but they don't show up...

Can I fix this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Obsessed_(2009_film)

Jabberwockgee (talk) 01:19, 11 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Fixed. The talk page contained an unclosed "invisible comment". That is, a  . Someguy1221 (talk) 01:23, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

how to add a picture?
how do i add a picture in any article? Militaryhistorystudent (talk) 02:14, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You'll need to first upload the picture to Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons, assuming it is not in one of those places already. To upload the picture here, simply go to this page and follow the directions (note that your account must be autoconfirmed, which means that it has made ten edits and been active for four days). To upload the picture to Commons, simply the follow the link provided above (they do not have the autoconfirmation requirement). Once you have uploaded the picture, simply list the file name in the article as [[File:Example.jpg]], replacing "Example" with the name of the file and making sure the extensions match. I know it's probably confusing, but post here if you have further questions. TN X Man  02:18, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

How do you propose for a featured picture
So, it's a picture that I think satisfies the criteria of featured content, and I wanna propose it. By the way this the picture...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ottawa_River_Parkway_interchange.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.190.94.112 (talk) 02:51, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The page to nominate pictures is located at WP:FPC. Good luck! TN X Man  03:01, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I am having a hard time nominating it!! I'll try tomorrow. In the mean time, if someone else does it instead I'd really appreciate it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.190.94.112 (talk) 03:21, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Charles Paterson Park
Charles Paterson Park Perth Australia who was this named after —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.107.97.74 (talk) 05:59, 11 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Have you tried the Humanities section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:18, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

having troubles referencing.
I would like to credit myself for the changes i made and also quote the external webpage that I found the information to which i credited in the article. when I go to the resources part, it dosn't make much sense to me.

Can someone please provide me a template to which I can edit appropriately when I edit an article? I am in your debt.

Dbreault (talk) 07:29, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I think that this change is what you want for external references. You wrap your footnotes in tags and put the display text after a space in the brackets of the external references. As for credit to you as editor, that is added automatically to the page history. —teb728 t c 08:54, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Amending the logo image on my Company's wikipedia entry
Good morning,

The company logo on the wikipedia entry for Avon Rubber p.l.c. is out-of-date.

Can you please advise how I can amend it, thanks.

Jason Hargreaves IT Director Avon Rubber p.l.c. www.avon-rubber.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jh23wiki (talk • contribs) 09:10, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You need to upload the new version. To do so you need to be autoconfirmed, which means your account needs to be 4 days old and you need ten edits. If you provide a link to a new logo, someone might upload it for you. —teb728 t c 09:32, 11 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I uploaded File:AvonRubberLogo.png and edited the article accordingly. Is that correct? – ukexpat (talk) 14:36, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Font Size
I have been away for a little bit and cannot remember how to change the font size. See Awaba, New South Wales, Bouddi, New South Wales, Bouddi National Park and Bucketty, New South Wales. I have put in a ref list and now the writing after it is smaller. If somebody can just put a fix into the first article, I will amend the rest.

thanks ..... Todd #661 09:21, 11 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Done - you just forgot to close the  tag with and endtag   Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 09:36, 11 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Or just use the Refbegin and Refend templates... – ukexpat (talk) 14:14, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Richard Bamping article
I have a feeling that it might qualify for deletion, but I'm not very sure. Vltava  68  09:47, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Principle cellist? You'd have a hard time getting that through any deletion process. - Jarry1250 (t, c) 11:16, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

One of my edits was signed with my computer number instead of my name... UNDO?
One of my edits was signed with my computer number instead of my name. I had logged in, but I guess was automatically logged out prior to finishing my edit? My question is two-fold:

1. Can I replace my computer number (on that edit) with my username? It's partly for safety reasons...

2. What happened? Does Wiki log people out automatically? My edit took a while, but I don't remember ever being logged out before.

Thanks! Walking Softly (talk) 10:28, 11 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Edits with an IP address cannot be reassigned to a user account. Edits can be deleted from public view but that is generally not done just because somebody was logged out . People can lose their login for different reasons. See Help:Logging in for tips on how to stay logged in. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:54, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * It appears Oversight has been changed since I last saw it. You can make a request at Requests for oversight. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:58, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The change was made in . Worth noting for help desk workers since there are sometimes questions about this. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:05, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Logging back in and simply replacing the IP with your signature actually compromises your anonymity. WikiScanner trawls the database looking for these replacements and logs them at Poor Man's Checkuser. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 11:35, 11 May 2009 (UTC)


 * My reply refers to the IP address credited for the edit in the page history. Gadget850's reply refers to the IP address shown on the page when you sign an edit with ~ (or somebody else signs for you). The latter can be changed or removed by you or anybody else, but as Gadget850 notes, if you log in and change the IP address then an external site may publish that your account has probably edited from that IP address. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:09, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Help required in creating a wikipedia content on - Software Testing : Cloud Testing Awarness please advice.
Hi, I want to create a Wikipedia Content on topic "Software Testing : Cloud Testing Awarness".Please advice how to proceed on the same.Regards,MakSwandove (talk) 11:01, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Put together your article with sources on a Sandbox. Then ask an editor or few who have written on related subjects whether they care to comment. BTW note the spelling of Awareness. Cuddlyable3 (talk) 11:11, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Have you considered editing the Cloud testing page by adding verifiable (referenced) information to it? - Jarry1250 (t, c) 11:14, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Problem with refs
Can anyone help fix the glitch with the references in the entry Canonical situation of the Society of St. Pius X ? Thanks. ADM (talk) 11:30, 11 May 2009 (UTC)


 * i've fixed the main glitch, i hope. Sssoul (talk) 11:50, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Watchlist2
What do the plus and minus signs in my Watchlist mean? It has the name of the article, then the time it was edited, then ... and then a number in brackets, either in green text prefixed with a + or in red, prefixed with a -, for example (+123) or (-168). I have looked in the FAQ and the page about watchlists but can't see what these represent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GaryReggae (talk • contribs) 11:48, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * It indicates the net number of bytes added or subtracted by the last edit. For example a green (+21) means 21 total bytes were added. TN X Man  11:56, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, is it bytes? Are you sure? Haha, I've always thought & it appeared to be characters.  hmwith  τ   11:59, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 99% of the time, bytes = characters. - Jarry1250 (t, c) 12:47, 11 May 2009 (UTC)


 * It's the number of characters added to or subtracted from an article. For example, if you add one letter, it will say +1.  hmwith  τ   11:57, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that answers that question! GaryReggae (talk) 12:04, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Change title
Hello, I would like to change the title of the article "José María Gallardo del Rey" edited by me becauase there is an error in the name (It is Rey, not rey) Thank you very much and sorry if you have answered this question yet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Emiliogy (talk • contribs) 12:31, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I've done this for you (more information at WP:MOVE). Looking at the article, you may also be interesting in Donating copyrighted materials. - Jarry1250 (t, c) 12:46, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

moving an article
hi, i wrote my first article as a subpage to my mytalk page. I got copyright permission and Ive edited it; etc., so now I'd like to move it from a subpage and put it in the "real time" wikipedia where it will be searchable. I've read the 'How to' on moving pages but didnt find it helpful. !can someone just tell me how to turn this subpage of mypage into a real article with its own page? thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fdhparis (talk • contribs) 12:53, 11 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I have taken a look at the draft and made a couple of formatting changes. However, I don't think it is ready to be moved to the mainspace yet. The biggest problem is that it has no references from reliable sources to support the notability of the organisation and without those, it will sooner or later be nominated for deletion if in the mainspace. Also, it is a little spammy, which leads to the final problem -- your user name appears to be in breach of the user name policy, so you should consider changing it or just abandonning that user name and creating an account with a name that complies. Hope this helps. – ukexpat (talk) 13:58, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Helpful- kind of. still lost. I really don't know a lot about using wikipedia, so tossing out terms doesn't do much for me. As far as the notability of the org, they're supported by the European Union and their site is legit, so I'm not too worried about it- I'd rather get it online and then deal with any problems that may, but hopefully don't, come. Can some one just tell me HOW to put it on the main space? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fdhparis (talk • contribs) 15:09, 11 May 2009 (UTC)


 * See WP:MOVE, but you will only be able to move pages when your account is autoconfirmed (4 days old and 10 edits). You should be concerned about notability - that is one of the cornerstones of Wikipedia and without showing notability, supported by references, your article will be, at the very least, tagged with issues tags. So please read the pages I linked to above. – ukexpat (talk) 15:17, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * If you're the only editor, you can just copy/paste it to the mainspace if you'd like.  hmwith  τ   15:43, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Not now - I have been cleaning it up a little. – ukexpat (talk) 17:19, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Clarification: However, that doesn't mean that the article will not be deleted if it doesn't meet notability standards. That's a whole different beast.  hmwith  τ   15:47, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * This article about a nonprofit organization is just as good as many others which are posted on WP, and I think it ought to created and moved to mainspace. Ukexpat, why don't you do it when you are finished with it? I will put a Construction tag on it so it others can help out. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 17:41, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Contents Box
How do I edit/ change items in the Contenct Box on my page?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.129.44.19 (talk) 14:48, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure to which page you are referring. Are you referring to an article or a user talkpage? TN X Man  14:52, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

I am referring to the page on Hopkins Center for Health Disparities Solutions. I want to change the Contents box where we have research, college health and wellness study, the health care equity program, etc. I just dont see where that is on my page when I go to edit it. I am very new to Wikipedia and have never edited a page before. Thank you for your help! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tlaveist (talk • contribs) 15:34, 11 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I think he's referring to the table of contents. You can change what's in the TOC box by actually changing the titles or ordering of the sections in the article. However, be aware that there is a certain, basic way pages should be organized (see WP:MOS).  hmwith  τ   15:37, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The contents box is automatically generated when there are four or more headings in the article. You can create a new heading by placing the section title between two equal signs. For example, adding ==References== in the article would create a new entry in the contents box for a references section. TN X Man  15:39, 11 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Just two points - are you editing on behalf of this institution? If so, please read WP:COI. Also, your message sounds like more than one person may be sharing your user name/account - please note that that is not permitted. Thanks. – ukexpat (talk) 15:43, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. I work as the Marketing Coordinator for the center and I am the only one who will be editing the page. I appreciate your help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tlaveist (talk • contribs) 15:55, 11 May 2009 (UTC)


 * As the marketing coordinator for the center, you have a conflict of interest.  hmwith  τ   16:09, 11 May 2009 (UTC)


 * ...and therefore strongly discouraged from editing the article. – ukexpat (talk) 17:01, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Request
Please delete the page I created at Books/test I was clicking around —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amplitude101 (talk • contribs) 15:56, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Mentifisto already has. - Jarry1250 (t, c) 15:58, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Edit section links aligning left?
Since I've been gone a little bit, something must have been changed to cause the "edit" links on the sections to align left, rather than right. I've searched a bunch, but can't find when or where this was discussed/implemented. Can someone with some knowledge help me out? Mahalo. --Ali'i 18:58, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Was there a particular article on which this was happening or was it all of the articles you are viewing? If it's only one article, then it may be an issue which is addressed by WP:BUNCH. TN X Man  19:05, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * So maybe it's simply an issue with my computer? For instance, I see the edit link to this very section appearing before "Edit section links aligning left?" in the header. It's every page. And since I have the "give the lead section an edit button" gadget turned on in my preferences, I get an "Edit" link directly before the article title. --Ali'i 19:11, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... after purging my cache, the links jump back to the right. Grrrrrr. Thanks anyway. --Ali'i 19:13, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Passing parameters through templates and substitution
I just created a new template (USMS designation) to help signify properties that are Mississippi Landmarks using Infobox nrhp. I thought the template would simply transclude its contents inline, but it appears as if the template must be subst'ed to work. Is there a reason for this? Also, when the template is subst'ed, the parameter is not passed to the cite web template. (An example can be found at Eudora Welty House) I can't figure out why this is happening. Any thoughts? I didn't really know if I should ask this here or not, but I can't think of anywhere else on the site that would be of any help. --Dudemanfellabra (talk) 19:38, 11 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Ah— the old parameters don't work inside  tag bug. See Footnotes. Let me fiddle with this a bit. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 19:52, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Try it now. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 20:01, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah yes the accessdate works now. Thanks for that! Do you know why the template must be subst'ed? Is there any way to get around that? --Dudemanfellabra (talk) 20:15, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

What Should a Director's InfoBox Look Like?
I've noticed that the color of the Infoboxes of directors are inconsistent. Modern filmmakers have yellow (i.e. Coppola, Scorsese) while others have silver (Kurosawa, Fellini). Which should it really be? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stepusual (talk • contribs) 22:46, 11 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Those articles all use the Infobox actor ibox. My guess is (and I am not a template coder) that the ibox code displays dead actors with a silver background and living with the yellow/buff background. – ukexpat (talk) 23:42, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, but Kubrick, Fellini, Kurosawa, Bergman, Antonioni, Tarkovsky, etc. aren't actors. Should their Infoboxes be changed?--Stepusual (talk) 00:17, 12 May 2009 (UTC)


 * There is no director infobox, well not that I could find, so I guess the actor one is the next best thing. – ukexpat (talk) 01:05, 12 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Looking at the infobox markup, if  is is included, the the background is silver. ---—  Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 11:18, 12 May 2009 (UTC)