Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2009 May 17

= May 17 =

content editing
I refer to the article on Stalking. I printed it off in May 2008 and sent it to some witnesses. I have since heard that my stalker has got someone to change the content in Wikipedia to suit himself (whole sections have been deleted). What can I do about that? Can the content be changed back?Summercase (talk) 06:30, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually there are two articles that you may be referring to. The article: Stalking and our section on Harassment which has a shortcut to Stalking.  Either way, yes it is possible to edit or even revert an article.  The best method to go about this would be to discuss the situation on the article talk page.  Keep in mind, that we are an open editing project, and that we are unable to offer any legal advice.  Our articles are encyclopedic in nature, and not meant to be used as a "how to" in a legal respect. — Ched :  ?  06:43, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Linking to Talk / Discussion possible?
How can I link (with double brackets) to the Talk / Discussion of a page? This is actually a MediaWiki, not a Wikipedia, question. --Hukkinen (talk) 11:34, 17 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Just use the title displayed at top of the page, for example Wikipedia talk:Help desk. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:03, 17 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I think I've seen the use of "m:Wikimedia page" too. testing: m:Talk:Wikimedia Foundation - the m: seems to work for me. — Ched :  ?  13:31, 17 May 2009 (UTC)


 * See WP:IW for help with interwiki linking. – ukexpat (talk) 15:22, 17 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Ahhhh .. Good link ukexpat! I see I mixed up meta/media - not all that uncommon for me unfortunately ... lol. — Ched :  ?  16:48, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Drinkicidal not found as a word or any reference
I am In AA Alcoholics Anonymous Drinkicidal and would like to ad this word as meaning not keeping it in the day

Regards Paul —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arnos Grove (talk • contribs) 14:44, 17 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Please see WP:NEO - Wikipedia is not a dictionary nor the place for articles on neologisms and protologisms. – ukexpat (talk) 14:54, 17 May 2009 (UTC)


 * (e/c) Hi Paul. It might be appropriate to add this into our existing article on Alcoholics Anonymous if you can verify the addition by citation in the article with a reliable source. However, if you mean that you want to create a separate page for Drinkicidal, please note that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a dictionary, and thus does not contain solo articles on simple definitions of words. (cf. lol, for a word whose treatment goes far beyond a simple definition and thus has an article here). By contrast, our sister project, Wiktionary, is a dictionary. Note that at Wiktionary, proposed additions must meet their criteria for inclusion, which require that definitions have clear 'attestation', meaning that they are verified as having: 1) Clearly widespread use; 2) Usage in a well-known work; 3) Appearance in a refereed academic journal; or 4) Usage in permanently recorded media, conveying meaning, in at least three independent instances spanning at least a year.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:11, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

How do I ask for the wiki community to answer a question or compose a new entry on the definition of a "ton" of certain gas?
I have not been able to find the definition of "ton of gas", as in "50 tons of CO2 emission" where I would like to learn just how much a ton of certain gas is in physics terms, as in volume and weight and density. Thank you.

70.241.119.17 (talk) 15:39, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You can ask over at our Science Reference Desk, they specialize in that kind of question. Franamax (talk) 16:13, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You can also read our articles: Density, Density of air, Carbon dioxide, Stoichiometry, Combined gas law, Avogadro's law, Gas laws, Phase diagram, etc. Or take courses in college chemistry and classical thermodynamics. Note that if you freeze a ton of gaseous carbon dioxide, you will have a ton of dry ice. You can also pressurize a ton of gaseous carbon dioxide into a ton of supercritical carbon dioxide, which you might then pump into depleted underground oil fields, and this is in fact what some people intend to do with carbon capture and storage technology. Since you mentioned carbon dioxide emission, you will also like to read our large collection of articles about Global warming. --Teratornis (talk) 22:52, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Perhaps you overlooked that a ton of gas will weigh a ton. Otherwise if you need a more technical definition, see our weight and mass articles for the differences in the terms. Rmhermen (talk) 23:07, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Riverport Riot
Can an admin please delete Riverport Riot? This page is total nonsence. What happened was clearly not a riot. I assume the writer of the article does not know the meaning of riot. --Ruthentiger (talk) 18:24, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but I cannot. The article is not nonsense ("patent gibberish") and appears to be OK. If you would like to pursue this deletion, consider a deletion discussion. However, according to one source, Axl Rose was cited with inciting a riot, so I don't know how much success you'll have. TN X Man  18:40, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Religion related articles
Hi. When a religion related article mentions the legends of that religion, is the legend written in present or past tense? Sorry if this is a confusing question. Kaguya-chan (talk) 19:21, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
 * By "legends" do you mean "stories" such as Bible stories? I've always been taught to write summaries in present tense because it's still happening as you read it - "Jesus turns water into wine". Xenon54 (talk) 19:55, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I meant stories. :) Thank you! Kaguya-chan (talk) 21:18, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

printer friendly option
is there such a thing? if so, how would one go about accessing it?

thnx —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scrimm (talk • contribs) 23:11, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
 * You go to the sidebar on your left, where you'll see a box marked "toolbox" above it. In it, click "Printable version". Wh ip it !  Now whip it good! 23:19, 17 May 2009 (UTC)


 * You should not need 'printable version', just use your browser print. See Help:Printable for more. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 23:31, 17 May 2009 (UTC)