Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2009 November 12

= November 12 =

Creating a new page
Hi, I have a created a new page under my account. It is a userpage however it is not showing up in Wikipedia when I do a search. I have created links within the page to other Wiki pages.

Please help as I am not sure if I have created my page correctly.

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bkkpartners (talk • contribs) 23:45, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, you would move the page. However, I strongly suggest that you add some reliable, 3rd party sources first. Ill do some cleanup for now. Tim1357 (talk) 00:01, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * For the record: The OP's account has been blocked, as the account appeared to be solely for advertising/spamming. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 01:04, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Merging Pages into an Article that Hasn't Been Created
How to you propose two or more articles be merged into a page that doesn't exist? ---Shadow (talk) 00:32, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * See Help:Merging. Use a discuss parameter to specify the talk page of an existing page, and explain the intention and involved pages there. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:37, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Twinkle
Is twinkle working for anyone? When I tag an article for speedy, it get pasts Tagging page: data loaded... and then just displays that message and does nothing. Any advice? Btilm 02:38, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * It's not working because of some scripting errors that are currently going on. Twinkle has been debugged and the fix should take effect sometime soon, assuming that this fix works it'll be back up ... eventually. More information about this can be found on its talk page. -- tennis man  03:14, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Posting another user's links
I would like to post a comment about another user and include a list of their edit history and contributions. I know there is a code to do this, but I don't know what it is. Help! --IP69.226.103.13 (talk) 03:27, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * produces . Regards,  AJ Cham  03:29, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that will do and is easy to remember. --IP69.226.103.13 (talk) 03:30, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * There is also userlinks which gives . – ukexpat (talk) 03:50, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow. Thanks, this one is also easy to remember, User or Userlinks. --IP69.226.103.13 (talk) 07:16, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Tool
I created a tool that adds a displaytitle tab whenever you edit a page. One tab adds one and one removes one. It is hard to explain. If you are interested, it is at user:btilm/displaytitle.js. Please test it and give me your feedback. Thank you. Btilm 04:20, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Pictures and References
I'm having trouble with pictures and references for my page. I tried to upload the picture and it said it couldn't read .jpg, but that's what all pictures are. Also, when I cite references, I push the reference button but it doesn't tell me how to actually cite it. It says I'm missing "reference/" but it doesn't tell me what that is. Please help! Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.17.55.236 (talk) 06:02, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * You have to place Unreferenced in the references section to make them appear. I'm not sure what problem you're having with the image. Could you tell us which article and which image you're referring to? Someguy1221 (talk) 06:35, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I think you mean reflist or since the "Unreferenced" template is something else entirely... BencherliteTalk 07:47, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Okay so I've gotten the picture uploaded, but it didn't ask me like what page I wanted to put it on or anything. And on the picture tutorial, it say's you can like put it on the left or the right, and just have the text fill in the empty spots, which is what I want, but it doesn't say how to do that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CandyCaine912 (talk • contribs) 16:32, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * To use it in an article, you use [[File:Blues 1.JPG]] where you want the picture. To have it on the left/right, just use Blues 1.JPG or Blues 1.JPG . See WP:IMAGES and Extended_image_syntax for more information about using images in articles. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 16:39, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Template:Statustop
For the life of me, I cannot get this template to work in my userspace. See User:Ks0stm/Status, and my user & talk pages. Could someone tell me what I am doing wrong? Ks0stm (T•C•G) 06:43, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Resolved. I guess all it needed was me complaining loud enough. There has to be a term for when something only works when you are trying to show it doesn't. Ks0stm (T•C•G) 06:47, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, the term is "computer" --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 07:44, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

I need to find out what is going on with my body about my health..
I need to find out what is going on with my body. i have nesea, headache, hot and cold flushes, runny tummy and get dizzy to the extend i'm not sure where i am. what could this be? driving to work and home is hectic feeling like this but i dont know what it could be ?

could anyone help me out on this one —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.210.132.215 (talk) 08:54, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia does not give medical advice, The medical information provided on Wikipedia is, at best, of a general nature and cannot substitute for the advice of a medical professional. None of the individual contributors, system operators, developers, sponsors of Wikipedia nor anyone else connected to Wikipedia can take any responsibility for the results or consequences of any attempt to use or adopt any of the information presented on this web site. Please see our medical disclaimer: Medical disclaimer, SpitfireTally-ho! 08:59, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Just to make what Spitfire hinted at explicit: please go see a doctor, that's what they are there for. &mdash; QuantumEleven 10:01, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

We cannot offer medical advice. Please see the medical disclaimer. Contact your General Practitioner. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 10:04, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * We cannot give medical advice, but common sense suggests you should not drive a motor vehicle when you experience the symptoms you describe. Let's hope your visit to the doctor solves the problem. --Teratornis (talk) 01:21, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Feed back templates.
Hello all, I was trying to create a "leave feedback" template for the help desk, however, although it displays fine when the code is: It links to the wrong page: Help Desk/feedback rather than Help desk/feedback, and when I change it like so:

{{feedback link|page={{{page| Wikipedia:Help Desk }}} to {{feedback link|page={{{page| Wikipedia:Help desk }}}

The template messes itself up, see Wikipedia talk:Help desk for an example of the broken template, and this link for the template that's working but linking incorrectly. Any ideas? Cheers Spitfire{{sup|Tally-ho!}} 09:10, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, it just needed an underscore between the two words, by the way, it'd be good if everyone could take a look at Wikipedia talk:Help desk anyway, cheers, Spitfire{{sup|Tally-ho!}} 11:57, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

HMAS Melbourne R21 - Amendment
I tried to put an amendment into the article on the Melbourne/Voyager collision. There is a factual error in that the article says that all survivors were picked up within 15 minutes of the collision. This is incorrect as I was the Commanding Officer of the first SAR (HMAS Air Nymph) on the scene, arriving there about 1 hour after the collision having sailed from the Marine Section, Jervis Bay at about 9 pm, that is just after 10 pm. My boat rescued 34 sailors from the water and in life rafts, some of which were only partially inflated. Several of my crew got into these life rafts to assist injured Voyager survivors or jumped into the water to assist those sailors without life jackets. HMAS Air Sprite arrived on the scene about 10 minutes after Air Nymph and rescued 36 sailors, making a total of 70 survivors. We were unable to transfer them to Melbourne because of the swell and the injuries they suffered so proceeded back to Jervis Bay, where they were landed before the 2 SARS returned to the collision site to continue the search until about 9 am the following day.

The rescue operations by the 2 SARs were ignored by the Royal Commission and were never recognised or acknowledged by Navy Office, presumably because of the political considerations. The story of the rescue operations has recently been covered by The Australian newspaper on 11 February 2009 and in the June 2009 edition of the Naval Historical Review (www.navyhistory.org.au). I would like your article to reflect the correct story of that night but my proposed amendment does not show.

What do I need to do to amend the HMAS Melbourne article?

Kerry Stephen Colseg (talk) 10:36, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Please do not include contact details in your questions. We are unable to provide answers by any off-wiki medium and this page is highly visible across the internet. The details have been removed, but if you wish for them to be permanently removed from the page history, email [mailto:oversight-l@lists.wikimedia.org this address]. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 10:52, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Your edit was reverted with the edit summary "Unsourced change - see talk page.", with the recognition that your edit was not malicious.
 * As the revert summary said, the information had no source - if you can provide reliable sources, then the information can be added/amended. Also, read the message on the article's talk page. Discuss what you think should be added, with sources of information - some the folks who comment there know a lot of about the ship! --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 10:59, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I have tracked down the Australian article mentioned by Colseg, and have expanded the content at Melbourne-Voyager collision with this as a source. I feel that this information is too detailed for the HMAS Melbourne (R21) article. The user and article talkpages have been notified. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Saberwyn (talk • contribs)

Dates
I am looking for a plugins or scripts to put in my monobook.js file

What I really want is just a script which will insert == November 2009 ==

Like you would need when warning somebody on their talk page and there isn't a section for it, I just want to click a button above the text area (By using the function addButton)

But is there anyway to get the date, and only take the month and year?

Thanks in Advance,

Limideen 14:20, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Some warning templates have a parameter that includes a specific section header if you add "|header=1" to the code. Others, not - and it varies. The easiest way I can think of would be to standardize warning templates to include a header field, where the header would be "==CURRENTMONTH CURRENTYEAR==", so you could add it at will, or create some simple template to plug it in - maybe cm (currentmonth). So to warn and add a header, you'd need to do article ~ . But as for a script, you might check with WikiProject User scripts; they might have something that works. UltraExactZZ Claims~ Evidence 15:20, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Twinkle will do this automatically, but you do have to use a browser other than IE. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 15:48, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Question about CSD/G10
Hi there - Is it appropriate to CSD-tag images that, while not themselves offensive, a)have pretty clearly been uploaded in order to mock/attack their subjects and b)have no obvious use on WP? I'm looking at a case of someone uploading a picture of a person and then substituting that picture for the graphic on Pig, Obesity, and so on. The images were removed from those pages, obviously. Pseudomonas(talk) 14:24, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * If in doubt, the better choice would be to list the images at Files for deletion. Glass  Cobra  15:12, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_tracker
In reference to the above article. I noticed you guys have put http://www.openbittorrent.kg as the example of the open bit tracker (found here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_tracker#Open_trackers). I agree that is an open bit tracker however this is the english version of Wikipedia. I don't see why the Kyrgyzstan tracker should even be here, instead this one should be listed http://openbittorrent.com/. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Epicnoob (talk • contribs) 14:34, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Here at Wikipedia, we encourage all our contributors to be bold and fix any and all mistakes you see yourself! Good luck, and welcome. :) Glass  Cobra  15:11, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Edit a link question
Hi - I can't seem to figure out how to edit a link under the Notes category of an article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ontariotourism (talk • contribs) 16:40, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * You cannot edit the references section directly if it uses the Reflist or code. To edit the references you have to find them in the text of the article and edit them there. They will be enclosed in tags. – ukexpat (talk) 16:43, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Is there a little ^ next to the link? if you click on that, you will get to where the note is referenced in the article - it is here that the link is coded - if you edit this section, you will see something along the lines of . This is the link. If you give a specific example, we can give more precise advice --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 16:44, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * if this is the edit you mean, i think the problem lies elsewhere: your external link was removed by another editor - see WP:EL for policies regarding external links. looks like you may need to read Wikipedia's user name policy as well.
 * but if you feel a site you're affiliated with is worthwhile, you can put a post on the article's talk page letting other editors know about the site, and leave it up to them whether to put it in the article or not. Sssoul (talk) 16:58, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Article message boxes
Where is the "master" list of all the markups that create boxes indicating problems? Y'know......the "this article has grammar problems" box and all those other little boxes that can be inserted about the quality of an article/sources? Where is that list of all the markups.....grrrrr......can't find it? Buddpaul (talk) 17:04, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * How about Category:Article message boxes? (Oh, and there's no need to use helpme here). BencherliteTalk 17:07, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * no grring necessary either. you can also try WP:Template messages/Cleanup or WP:Template messages for a broader list. Sssoul (talk) 17:09, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

problem with search
there is a problem with your search function. I go to type in a word such as Top Chef and all I get is a blank page. I've done this for numerous keywords and all I get is a blank page. You need to get this fixed.
 * It works fine for me. What browser are you using?--Unionhawk Talk E-mail Review 18:38, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * try []-- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Buzzzsherman (talk • contribs)
 * try [] ,works ?-- NotedGrant  Talk  18:46, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * We've just had some brief downtime, during which you would have received only blank pages. It should be working now.  AJ  Cham  18:49, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Page isn't visible.
I have created a page on Wikipedia. However, when I go to view it by conducting a search, it is non-existent. Why is that? How can I make my page visible? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brooklynwomensrugby (talk • contribs) 19:07, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * What page? It may have been deleted.--Unionhawk Talk E-mail Review 19:10, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * There is a draft article in your userspace at User:Brooklynwomensrugby. Couple of points before it can be moved to the mainspace: you need to demonstrate with sources how the club is notable; your user name is in violation of the user name policy. – ukexpat (talk) 19:20, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * (e/c)Take a look at Special:Contributions/Brooklynwomensrugby, which lists your non-deleted contributions. It appears that you have created 2 pages, User:Brooklynwomensrugby/Brooklyn Women's Rugby and User:Brooklynwomensrugby. The search function will only find it in article-space, usually, and both of those are in userspace. That's appropriate, since they're not ready to launch yet. --AndrewHowse (talk) 19:24, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Music Profile Table
Hi how can I create that table on the right column that all music profiles seem to have (birth date, genres, instruments, hometown, etc.)? Is there some kind of template? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Toriboy84 (talk • contribs) 19:25, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes; Infobox musical artist Someguy1221 (talk) 19:29, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Odd infobox behaviour
The article E number contains the infobox template "E number infobox 900-909", yet when I click on the little "v", "e" or "d" links in the top left of the box, I'm taken to the different template "E number infobox 950-969". Anyone any idea why? 86.152.242.213 (talk) 20:10, 12 November 2009 (UTC).
 * The template Template:E number infobox 900-909 had the wrong name in its source. I've fixed it, so it now will link to the correct page.  --Mysdaao talk 20:20, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Hey, thanks Mysdaao. What do you mean by "in its source"? 86.152.242.213 (talk) 20:22, 12 November 2009 (UTC). Duh, sorry, scratch that, I just looked at the edit you made!
 * You're welcome! --Mysdaao talk 20:32, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Requesting an Updated Profile.
How do I get someone to correct or expand a profile of someone that is limited and very opinion biased? --Faithmarie3 (talk) 21:56, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * The best place to start is the article's talk/discussion page. – ukexpat (talk) 22:01, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * What is the article (not "profile") in question? -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  22:01, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Apparently it's John D. Hancock, per this message on my talk page. – ukexpat (talk) 22:28, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi Faith Marie. Many people come to Wikipedia with the impression that there's some central authority which writes articles. Wikipedia is structured very differently than many other institutions which are centrally managed, so that impression is not surprising. But it is WE that writes the articles; you're included. Articles are developed and expanded by someone happening along who is interested in the subject and has the knowledge to make improvements. You seem to be that person. Of course, some editors are brand new, and some are highly experienced, but we're all just editors. So, go to the article and plunge right in (actually, I strongly recommend taking a tour through the Tutorial first, but you get my drift I hope). You stated a whole bunch of facts on Ukexpat's talk page. Go to the article, click "edit this page" at the top, and start writing. List those facts. What is fundamental is that for every fact you list, you should provide a reliable reference which verifies that fact. Avoid saying he's great/accomplished/honored—show it through facts, and be circumspect of adjectives (see, e.g., WP:PEACOCK). I will help you with the methodology of citing sources if you need it. Just do your best.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:36, 12 November 2009 (UTC)