Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2009 November 7

= November 7 =

Problem with images
Hi,

I have a problem. I uploaded 2 images, and both have been deleted, I need help to upload them again, there are pages of a comic book, I see many of them in wikipedia and all are permited. Please, help me doing that so I can create more and better pages on this topic.

Thank you very much —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.39.161.67 (talk) 01:38, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Currently you're editing anonymously (not logged in), so no one here will be able to figure out why the images were deleted and therefore help you fix your problem. Could you please tell us either the username you used to upload the images or the names of the images (preferably both)? Xenon54 / talk / 03:09, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi, Now I'm logged in. my user name is Arussom. The images were deleted because the copyright, but I see, in Wikipedia, much of pictures like this, pictures or images of comics. When I see this pictures, them say "This image is from a comic strip, webcomic or from the cover or interior of a comic book" and they are perfectly permited, but mine were deleted. I supouse that I uploaded them wrong or something. Can you help me? Thanks!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arussom (talk • contribs) 03:17, 7 November 2009 (UTC)


 * You uploaded the image to Wikimedia Commons instead of Wikipedia. Only free images can be uploaded at Commons, whereas images used under a fair use claim must be uploaded locally, which you can do at Upload.  Be sure to read the policy on non-free content, and make sure the images and their intended use are compliant before uploading. Regards,  AJ  Cham  03:44, 7 November 2009 (UTC)


 * PS. Your account is not yet autoconfirmed, so you won't be able to upload images for the time being. You will become autoconfirmed after 01:09, 10 November 2009, assuming you have made at least 2 more edits by that time.  AJ  Cham  03:47, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much. It was because I am not autoconfirmed... I will do the updates and I will wait until Nov 10th to try to upload the images again in Wikipedia. Thanks again! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arussom (talk • contribs) 14:09, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

typo in title
I need to fix a typo in the title of an article. The last name of the person is not capitalized. How do I fix this?
 * Which article? I see no problems with titles, looking through your contribs.--Unionhawk Talk E-mail Review 05:12, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, it's been ✅.--Unionhawk Talk E-mail Review 05:13, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Somebody already caught it at Frank Rusch. Please sign your comments with four titles " ~ Cptnono (talk) 05:15, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Userspace draft
Hi, I created a userspace draft about three days ago its name is User/Srimm/Srimathumitha I cant access it now. I want to make it a mainspace article. I dont know where to find it.. Where is my userspace draft? Srimm (talk) 07:14, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * It looks like you haven't created it at all. Your only edit using this account so far has been to ask this question. It is possible that you have not saved it properly. I'm afraid you'll have to do it all over again. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 08:51, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

The most common cause of this problem is that you clicked on the Show Preview button instead of the Save Page Button:



If you do not click on Save Page, the edit will not be kept. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 13:46, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Production design credits for movies
how do you add a production design credit to the credit boxes on movie pages?Dzyndoc (talk) 08:44, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The parameters for that box are listed here and I don't see production designer listed. The infoboxes are a template used in numerous articles about movies and are not customizable. You have a few options:
 * Since it may be considered an important position you might want to make the request to have the parameter added to the template (which will make it available to all of that style of infobox) but I wouldn't be surprised if there was resistance since some editors prefer to keep them as concise as possible. You can make the request here. It has come up before so you might want to review the discussions seen here
 * Do not add it to the infobox but make a mention in the body of the article
 * See if it is possible to say forget what WikiProject Films is doing and create a static infobox. I believe it is possible but do not know how myself.
 * Cptnono (talk) 09:15, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

talk page format
My user talk has displayed in an unusual manner since I've borrowed an archive box setup from another user's talk page. Is it my browser or have I effed the mark up some how? I was attempting to restrict the space the archive list was occupying on the page, so if there are alternate suggestions for that result I'd be interested. Thanks  Tide  rolls  11:21, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I took a stab at making it appear better by removing extra braces and using clear so that talk page posts appear below the archive box. Is that better?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:29, 7 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I think that's gonna work. Thanks for taking the time.   Tide  rolls  13:32, 7 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I guess your concern is the overlapping archive and Talkback box in this version. The "Reply" section uses Talkback which displays a full-width box with no flexibility towards the archive box to the right. The suggestion by Fuhghettaboutit creates blank space to the left of the archive box. Two ways to avoid the overlap without creating the blank space: 1) Move the archive box up so it doesn't reach the first section. 2) Change the first section so it doesn't have a full-width element. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:34, 7 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I think one of the reasons you're having this issue at all is because you don't have enough section headers on the page so that a table of contents is present. As you'll see from many talk pages that user the archive box, the TOC and the archive box appear on opposite sides of the page in the same plane, and talk page posts will automatically appear below them. So if you allow more posts on the page (or force the TOC to appear) you might like the way that looks better and you can then remove the clear.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:41, 7 November 2009 (UTC)


 * See, this is what I get for not venturing from my cocoon. I do appreciate the info and education.  Regards   Tide  rolls  13:52, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for comment
Hi Wikipedia-Help desk, can you please give me a brief run-down on how "Requests for comment" works? Thanks Sir Floyd (talk) 13:53, 7 November 2009 (UTC)


 * See Requests for comment. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:53, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * G-DayPrimeHunter! Do I ask for other Editors comment or is there more to it. Sir Floyd (talk) 14:59, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Following the instructions on Requests for comment is how you ask other editors to comment. (In the six minutes that elapsed between PrimeHunter's reply and yours, did you have time to read that page?) Whether there is more to it depends on how you define "it", where "it" is presumably whatever goal you are trying to accomplish by asking other editors to comment. What goal are you trying to accomplish? The more specific you can be when you describe your problem to the Help desk, the more likely you are to get a useful answer. --Teratornis (talk) 18:40, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok! I shall read the "Wikipedia:Requests for comment" in greater detail. What I was referring to was canvassing for other editor's opinions. Is it allowed, if so what are the parameters within which to work? Sorry about the delayed response, I'm on Aussie time. Thanks Sir Floyd (talk) 01:50, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
 * See WP:CANVASS. Hint: when you know specific technical terms on Wikipedia such as "canvas", you can look up the manuals for them in the Editor's index to Wikipedia. On Wikipedia, most of the questions a user could have are questions that have come up before, and are usually addressed in the manuals somewhere. --Teratornis (talk) 18:27, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Teratornis! I think the "Editor's index to Wikipedia" will come in very handy. Sir Floyd (talk) 09:07, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Phantom edits
Lately, I've been having issues with seeing some of my own edits (probably around 20-30%) over the past week or so. I'll make a change and it will be there in the preview, but when I save it, it's not there in the article or the article's edit history, yet it will be logged in my contributions list and when I click to edit the article again, the change does appear there. I'm thinking maybe it's a delay of some sort, but if it is, it's a long one. An edit I made twelve hours ago has yet to appear. Is it Wikipedia? Is it me?  Mbinebri  talk &larr; 16:29, 7 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Wait, scratch that. Simply clearing my cache seems to have solved the problem, although in many many edits, that had never been a problem before.    Mbinebri   talk &larr; 16:48, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Category Creation
Where can I create categories? --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 16:46, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * By going to the category page you wish to create and editing the page. You may also want to look at similar category pages to see how to format it. For example, see Category:Xavier University (Cincinnati) alumni. The category will autopopulate with articles tagged with the category, but you can add the top material yourself. TN X Man  18:07, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't understand what you mean. How can I go to the "category page you wish to create" if I haven't created it yet?
 * Categories are a bit confusing at first. I had to read Help:Category several times when I was new to Wikipedia. You can go to any page that does not yet exist by clicking its red link. You will get a red link to a not-yet-existing category page when you add a link to that category on the page you want to categorize into that category. Categories are confusing because they work backwards from how we usually think about linking to things. You might suppose you would edit a category page to add pages to that category, but it works the other way: to put a page into a category, you edit that page. You can put a page into a category that doesn't exist yet. This will all sink in if you carefully read Help:Category. If it doesn't make sense at first, come back and read Help:Category several times over several days. --Teratornis (talk) 18:34, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * My third sentence might be mysterious. When you "go to a page that does not exist" you are actually going to an edit window where you may create that page. Read WP:RED to understand how that works. Note that creating new pages does not guarantee they will "stick". Other editors may delete pages that don't follow Wikipedia's complex rules. See Categorization for guidelines about what categories you should and should not create. What categories do you want to create? --Teratornis (talk) 18:45, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Also note, in the first reply to your question:
 * "You may also want to look at similar category pages to see how to format it."
 * As you can tell by reading the rest of the reply, but this may not be clear to you at first, the word "it" refers to the descriptive text at the top of the category page, not to the list of articles in the category. You (the human editor) can edit the descriptive text at the top of the category page, but the MediaWiki software automatically displays the list of articles which contain links to that category. When you edit and save some descriptive text at the top of a new category page, that's when the category "exists" - that is, links to the category in articles will not longer be red. --Teratornis (talk) 18:55, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you both for all the help. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 19:24, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Userboxes
How do I put userboxes on my userpage?--Ace Oliveira (talk) 17:41, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Simply by pasting the appropriate code on your page. You can look at my page for an example, or see this page. TN X Man  18:05, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Twinkle
I do not want twinkle to put users' talk pages on my watchlist when I tag their articles with speedy deletion. I put the following in my monobook.js, but it doesn't help. Any suggestions?

if( typeof( TwinkleConfig ) == 'undefined' ) TwinkleConfig = {}; // DO NOT REMOVE THIS LINE - ALL TWINKLE SETTINGS AFTER THIS TwinkleConfig.watchProdPages		= 	false; TwinkleConfig.watchRevertedPages	=	 []; TwinkleConfig.watchSpeedyPages	=	 []; TwinkleConfig.watchWarnings		= 	false; //END // importScript('User:AzaToth/twinkle.js');

Thanks.  Btilm 19:29, 7 November 2009 (UTC)


 * This is something of a guess, but I notice that the line  importScript('User:AzaToth/twinkle.js');  appears after the Twinkle config in your monobook.js. I'm not sure, but I would assume the Twinkle script should be loaded before the config, so try moving that line up a bit.  AJ  Cham  22:13, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I tried it the other way an it still doesn't work. Any suggestions?   Btilm  00:50, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Tail Support
what is tail support —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.220.133.141 (talk) 19:59, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. TN X Man  20:02, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Speedy tag
How or where can I see who added the speedy to this article? Jeremy Parzen Off2riorob (talk) 21:11, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Well it was there but it has been totally removed by the creator of the article..it was here ? Off2riorob (talk) 21:13, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * See Help:Page history to learn about how to view previous changes made to pages SpitfireTally-ho! 21:17, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes, talkpage history, but speedy tags added are not recorded in the talkpage history, I had a good luck already, is it possible to see who added the speedy or not? Off2riorob (talk) 21:38, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * As near as I can tell, no one ever added a db tag to the article. The author added a hangon tag when no speedy tag was present, then deleted the tag. I don't know what you're referring to in your comment about the talk-page history, but all the edits to the article itself are shown on its history page, and I don't see any speedy tagging there. Deor (talk) 21:47, 7 November 2009 (UTC)


 * The speedy deletion nomination does not appear in the page history, because that version of the page was in fact deleted. (See log), and has since been recreated. However, the author was notified by User:Pseudomonas using Twinkle, as shown here so they were almost certainly the nominator. Regards,  AJ Cham  21:49, 7 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Ah, thank you, that is totally correct. The author panicked and added the speedy hang on, and the page was also recently deleted, thanks, I know where to look now. Off2riorob (talk) 22:00, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Websense
how to by pass websense —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.247.243.196 (talk) 21:23, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * You might find what you are looking for in the article about Websense. If you cannot find the answer there, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except about how to use Wikipedia, which is what this help desk is for). I hope this helps.  TN X Man  21:56, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Picture
How do you change a picture? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Charmedguy1998 (talk • contribs) 21:25, 7 November 2009 (UTC)


 * This depends on what specifically you are looking to do:
 * To replace an image on a page with an alternative image available on Wikipedia or Commons, just edit the page and update the file name to the new one. See Picture tutorial for more info.
 * If the replacement image is on your computer, you will need to upload it first. Be sure that it complies with our image use policy and is not a copyright infringement.
 * Or, if you want to edit an image on Wikipedia, you will have to download it. Right click the link under the image preview on its description page, and select "save link/target as". You can then open the image in an image editing program on your computer.
 * You may find Help:Contents/Images and media useful. If you want more specific help, feel free to leave a message on my talk page. Regards, <span style="font-family: fontin, serif;"> AJ Cham  22:01, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Redirect and eliminating a page.
When I created a page yesterday the last name was not capitalized (Frank rusch). That was fixed by someone else. Thank you. But the incorrect page still existed. In an effort to eliminate the incorrect page I tried to redirected Frank rusch to Frank Rusch, except I did that wrong. So now I have totally screwed the page up again. Please help me to fix the title and totally eliminate the incorrect page. Thank you.Mdavis789 (talk) 21:52, 7 November 2009 (UTC)Mendy
 * It's been moved back. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  21:55, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Thank you.Mdavis789 (talk) 22:15, 7 November 2009 (UTC)M

Will Frank rusch appear in addition to the correct page when that name is searched? It goes to the correct page, again thank you, but appears as an option. (Now that I have made the mistake it is driving me nuts!)Mdavis789 (talk) 22:27, 7 November 2009 (UTC)M
 * Clicking on Frank rusch will take you to Frank Rusch. This is a redirect, which causes some pages to point to other articles. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  22:43, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * If someone does a search for Frank Rusch, Frank rusch, frank rusch, etc the only page that will show on the search results will be the main article - not the redirects. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 13:58, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Nev version of File
Good day, im make the new version (better) of this fili: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dubcek.jpg your cant find him at: http://img156.imageshack.us/i/dubcek3.jpg/ Please, upload it as new version of file "Dubcek.jpg" Many thanks --77.48.153.172 (talk) 22:31, 7 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your work with that picture - I have uploaded the new version. However, in future, Commons:Picture requests may be a better place to make such requests.  (We also have Images for Upload on Wikipedia, but this is perhaps inappropriate for requesting changes to images on Commons.) Regards, <span style="font-family: fontin, serif;"> AJ  Cham  23:59, 7 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Many thanks - as help wit upload, as to gibt me a tips for next times... --77.48.153.172 (talk) 00:32, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Interwiki redlink murder
Xqbot just removed an interwiki link to a non-existing page. This is inconvenient, since the German Wikipedia is much more restrictive wrt stubs. Could someone please point me towards the applicable policy? Usually I know where to find what I look for, but this is a slippery one. Paradoctor (talk) 22:41, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The policy is at Help:Interlanguage links. --Mysdaao talk 22:59, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank_you.jpg Paradoctor (talk) 23:16, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Los Angeles public library photo archive
What license would you give to the picture on William Bonin's article?. I found it here and it says "Image Credit": Los Angeles public library photo archive. --FromSouthAmerica (talk) 23:48, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
 * It depends on factors such as when it was taken and under what licence it was released by the photographer/owner. Most state-owned photographs, however, are not copyrighted or provide lenient terms of usage. Intelligent  sium  02:21, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
 * In this case, it is not easy to determine. The entry for this image in the LA Public Library does not specify the copyright terms nor the author, so you will have to call the library to find out that information. —Th e DJ (talk • contribs) 15:01, 9 November 2009 (UTC)