Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2009 October 25

= October 25 =

Creating a dab page - did I do it right?
I just created a new article Women's Basketball Coaches Association. The association is best known by its initial, WBCA. I would like to create a redirect from WBCA to the article, however, WBCA is currently a redirect to Washington's Birthday Celebration, presumably because that celebration is run by a group with those initials.

I edited the redirect page to make it a dab page. Did I do it right?

Should I remove the hatnote from Washington's Birthday Celebration relating to WTOF, now that it is included in the dab page?-- SPhilbrick  T  00:03, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * You did it right. I've gone ahead and removed the hatnote. Someguy1221 (talk) 00:26, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks!!!-- SPhilbrick  T  00:55, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Electric Mary
Hi, I've been working on the page Electric Mary (my log in is musicloverme) and while I have no problems with the edit being removed due to external links being listed (honest mistake) I would like to have the opportunity to delete the links from what I was working on as it took a while to grab sources and format, etc. Is my previous entry available for me to edit anywhere? Thanks, Jillian 121.219.28.249 (talk) 00:12, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Your edit was reverted because it contained a link to photobucket. This is a common mistake made on Wikipedia. It's not that links to photobucket aren't allowed, but rather that such links don't actually work. Wikipedia will only display images that are hosted on either Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons. I've restored your edit sans photobucket link. As to your question, you can always view the old versions of a page by clicking on the history tab at the top of the page, and then clicking on the date listed for the version you want to see. Someguy1221 (talk) 00:23, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Please Help me with imags showing!
Hi There I Can't See Images on Wikipedia Site! I don't use proxy, and I use IE8, and even Firfox I can;t see images, only in Wikipedia site, all other site are ok.

System: win XP SP3. Any help please! Thanx —Preceding unsigned comment added by EBLA-bla (talk • contribs) 01:55, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Example.jpg|100px|thumb|alt=if you're reading this, you cannot see the image]]Just testing. Can you see the image at the right?  Intelligent  sium  review 02:21, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

- * - * - * - * - No, I see this text: (( if you're reading this, you cannot se the image )). But I can see first 11 images in top of the reply box: (Bold Text, Italic Text... etc.) from the 12: Rdirect to 22 I see an (X) in a square.

In any article, I see only text, there is no images. There is a big blank square containing a small (x) in its up right corner. e.g., I opened an article of "Digital Audio", There is a text, but the presentation pictures are all in (x) form :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by EBLA-bla (talk • contribs) 02:59, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * finds several previous versions of this question, and answers. --Teratornis (talk) 04:15, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

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Thank You Teratornis.

I've searched & searched ... there is no solvation!

Many answers are only Questions, or cannot solve my probleme:

Example Answer : '''If you have Internet Explorer then click on tools, Internet Options, Advanced, and then in the Multimedia section of the list, there's an item that says "Show Pictures". Best of luck'''

In my probleme: All of the browsers settings are OK.

Other prblemes are about the user uploaded images, not my probleme.

Some problemes Has been finished with one answer like: Which article? Then the probleme owner stoped responding.

My probleme is in all articles!

Other problemes have a useless answers like: the images are loading perfectly fine for me Or: '''Me too. must have been a temporary thing''' Or: '''I was having similar issues yesterday, but it is working now. Probably server issues'''

My probleme happends always, the browser isn't the cause becaus The probleme is in both IE & Firefox. beside that this problpme is only on Wikipedia sites, all other sites are OK.

Please guys! any help please ...

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 * I thought there was an option to turn off images in WP - I just glanced through preferences, but I don't see it. If OP can't see images in multiple browsers, it sounds like a WP setting, not a browser setting.-- SPhilbrick  T  12:38, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

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Thank You Very much Sphilbrick!

Would you, please, tell me briefly what is "WP" Or "OP" and how to edit they settings? Please brother! —Preceding unsigned comment added by EBLA-bla (talk • contribs) 14:27, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * "WP" is "Wikipedia"; "OP" is "opening poster" (i.e., you). Powers T 15:09, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * It's possible to prevent images on the 'bad images list' - mainly naked people and other similarly shocking things - from being shown (see here, but I'm not aware of a similar feature for blocking all images.
 * EBLA-bla, 'WP' is short for Wikipedia and 'OP' means 'original poster', used on online forums to refer to the person who started the discussion - in this case, you.
 * I have one more question for you: does it make a difference if you log out? If so it suggests there is some setting for your user account which I'm not aware of, but if not it rules that out. Olaf Davis (talk) 15:11, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

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Powers, Olaf Davis, Thank you all for the good infos;

Dear Olaf, No .. there is no difference, the probleme is still the same even I logged out.

I still need your help guys. Thanx

-*-*-* —Preceding unsigned comment added by EBLA-bla (talk • contribs) 22:13, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Do you see any images when you view a Google image search cached page of a Wikimedia Foundation site like this one? That way you are looking at Wikimedia Commons "through" Google. It is possible to have turned off images for a specific site in your Web browser. Firefox has a setting for this somewhere (in my version, it's under the "Exceptions" button next to the "Load images automatically" checkbox on the "Content" tab of the "Preferences" window, and make sure you didn't somehow set the browser to not load images from Wikipedia, it might be possible to do that accidentally with a hot key or something), and MSIE probably does too, since MSIE copies all the useful Firefox features after a while. (Bill Gates became the world's richest man by profiting from other people's innovations. That guy ain't dumb.) See Browser notes and other links under WP:EIW. If you have somehow set your browser to not load images automatically for a given site, it may be possible to load them manually somehow. That's one way to tell if you have that setting. You can also search with Google for:
 * It seems a number of people have this complaint out there on the Web. Maybe someone duplicates your problem. --Teratornis (talk) 05:07, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It seems a number of people have this complaint out there on the Web. Maybe someone duplicates your problem. --Teratornis (talk) 05:07, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

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Thank you Teratornis for your interest! No, I cannot see any images in the link above. And there is no Exceptions in the firefox load images automatically box. no either in MSIE. I've tryed The google link (cannot see images on Wikipedia) before, I used so many similar questions, all answers is similer.

-*-*-* —Preceding unsigned comment added by EBLA-bla (talk • contribs) 12:22, 26 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I guess you have stumped the Help desk, then. You should probably find someone who knows about computers in your locality who can look at your computer and figure out what is wrong. It's too hard to diagnose problems by filtering suggestions to a distant person blindly. What happens if you try some of the print/export options such as "Create a book" or "Download as PDF"? Also, please follow the standard format in Talk page guidelines rather than using idiosyncratic formatting. --Teratornis (talk) 08:58, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Rating gadget
Could someone using the User:Pyrospirit/metadata gadget take a look at Trombone? The gadget doesn't seem to show any rating on the article for me, even though the article clearly is rated.  Intelligent  sium  review 02:19, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It works fine for me. The article is displayed as B-class. (To other answerers: this question is about is the gadget labelled "Display an assessment of an article's quality..." in your preferences.) Xenon54 / talk / 02:37, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * That's very odd; now I see it, but no change has been made, I had already tried the regular avenues, i.e., purging. Though I intended to do so, I do not recall linking User:Pyrospirit/metadata either...  Intelligent  sium  02:56, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Locator Maps
Hello! I really love the EU locator map, used in some country's articles. Examples include
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:EU_location_ROM.png
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:EU_location_CZE.png
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Europe_location_WAL2.png (in heavily modified form)

Where can I find the "original", unmarked map? I'd love to fiddle around with it. 24.205.46.147 (talk) 03:06, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * File:EU location Blank.png. You can find the whole lot of them at Commons:Category:Locator maps of countries of the European Union. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 03:57, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Margin problem
Could someone please adjust the left margin for the final two sections of Rockabilly Hall of Fame? It has me buffaloed. Thanks, RadioBroadcast (talk) 03:36, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 03:49, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you! RadioBroadcast (talk) 18:05, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

check an edit, please
I can't access the source for the info from here at work, so could someone please check this edit for me. Thanks, Dismas |(talk) 06:09, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh, I'm sure any employer would make an exception for Briana Banks. Anyway, yeah, it checks out. Someguy1221 (talk) 06:18, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I appreciate it! Dismas |(talk) 12:29, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks fine to me as well. (oh, the edit? sorry, didn't check).-- SPhilbrick  T  12:41, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

spam?
I think these are spam. Vanity XO and Chang Jui-chuan. Where do I report them? Thanks in advance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by YellowFives (talk • contribs) 08:58, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I've deleted the first article you mention as non-notable. In the future, you should may tag such articles yourself with deletion templates (see Candidates for speedy deletion for more information). You can also tag articles with cleanup templates. You can see the available cleanup templates at the intimidatingly huge page: Template messages/Cleanup. As for Chang Jui-chuan, it can't be immediately deleted, but you can request as much through proposed deletion or articles for deletion. If I made the unfortunately mistake of overloading another newbie, please forgive me, and I'll try to help you further (although at the moment I'm getting ready for bed).


 * As a final note, if you're ever unsure what to do or how to do it, you can always feel free to ask here. Someguy1221 (talk) 09:17, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you. There was no link from Chang Jui-chuan to the Chinese Wikipedia when I mentioned this, but now I think it might not be spam. YellowFives (talk) 09:48, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

So for example this StartUp@Singapore page, I would add the db-promo template to it? Do I need to list it somewhere then? YellowFives (talk) 16:40, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * After adding a speedy deletion or PROD tag to the article, there is no need to list it anywhere, although it is recommended to inform the author of the page. The only deletion process with a mandatory listing is AFD. When you place {{subst:AFD}} on a page, a list of directions will display on the tag for you to follow. Someguy1221 (talk) 22:16, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Uploading picture
Hi,

I would like to upload pic of myanmar kyat? but i don't know how to do it. someone told me i need copyright for that. is it right? pls help me

thanks and regards, sandi —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sandi1985 (talk • contribs) 09:56, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * See WP:UPLOAD. The wizard should provide the information you need regarding copyright. Alternatively, you could read the Guide that deals with image copyright. Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 12:11, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

ARTICLE DELETED
SIR I AM A NEW USER AND I CREATED AN ARTICLE ON OCT20-21,2009.TITLE WAS HEMKUNT &ANCIENT HISTORY. I WANT TO KNOW WHY MY ARTICLE HAS BEEN DELETED WITHOUT ANY DISCUSSION.HOW CAN I CREATE PERMANENT PAGE? BY:ASHWINI TIWARI. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.199.102.109 (talk) 11:01, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Etiquette: All caps is considered shouting; please sign your posts.


 * Your IP shows only two contributions, both to the Help Desk. You will have to be more specific as to the article in question before we can understand the problem. We do have an article on Hemkund that may have some relation. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 11:09, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Took a while to find, but here is the relevant entry from the Deletion Log:

15:19, 21 October 2009 Fabrictramp (talk | contribs) deleted "Hemkunt &ancient history" ‎ (G2: Test page: POV fork for Hemkund)

Please see here for the criteria under which this page was speedily deleted. Hope that helps. DB  103 245-7 Talk 12:05, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * The CSD-G2 tag is the test page tag, which is sometimes user to delete a page which does not strictly fall under the other criteria. See WP:POVFORK instead. (Also, nice find DB - i was about to do a similar search, but you prevented me from having to) Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 12:09, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * As a note, you can also try deletion review if you believe it satisfied Wikipedia's guidelines and was wrongly deleted. Magog the Ogre (talk) 12:12, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * And see Why was my article deleted?, Alternative outlets, and where you can find thousands of other wikis and possibly some that will accept your article. --Teratornis (talk) 18:56, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

List of tags?
Hey there... I always find myself looking for certain tags but unable to find them, is there a list somewhere of where I can find them all listed? This would make it so much easier for me: i.e. orphan tags, weasel tags, not a worldwide view tag, and so on. Currerntly I'm looking for the tag that says this article has no opening/introduction and someone should consider writing one Avalik (talk) 15:50, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The tag you are specifically looking for is . A list of tags can be found at this page. TN X Man  15:54, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Consider using the Friendly gadget if it is compatible with your browser - it makes adding maintenance tags much easier. – ukexpat (talk) 14:50, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Disabling Hyperlinks
Does Wikipedia have a customization to disable hyperlinks in articles to other Wikipedia articles? This is coming from someone who uses adaptive devices to read. If not, I think it would be a good customization to add. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.215.53.87 (talk) 16:39, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * While this isn't exactly what you want, you can look in the list on the left margin, near the bottm, and click on printable version for whatever articel you wish to read - it will then be available to read without any clickable links.-- SPhilbrick  T  18:44, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Possible Retirement
Is there any template that says anything like "This user might retire due to outside reasons?" Dog poster  16:47, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I think or  may fit that purpose. Alternatively you can just use a  template with a custom message.  Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 16:54, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm sure you could create it, like so:



This user may retire in the future due to outside reasons or something to that effect.  Intelligent  sium  16:55, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Any such template would likely be found at Wikibreak, and there would appear to be none. Alternative options may be:
 * subst the Personalissues template and then edit the text to suit; or
 * use ambox - eg.
 * Regards,  AJ Cham  16:59, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Regards,  AJ Cham  16:59, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

1997 lexus ls400 radio fuses
radio wont work but fuses are not blown according to the locations in the manual. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.178.186.204 (talk) 18:16, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Symbol move vote.svg This page is for questions about editing Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try  for an article related to the topic you want to know more about.  I hope this helps.  Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 18:42, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Er, see your dealer? – ukexpat (talk) 14:52, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Your incorrect comment on film Auto Focus by Paul Schrader
YOU WRITE: Auto Focus is a 2002 American biographical film directed by Paul Schrader. The screenplay by Michael Gerbosi is based on the book The Murder of Bob Crane by Robert Graysmith. It tells the story of actor Bob Crane, an affable radio show host and amateur drummer who found success on Hogan's Heroes, a popular television sitcom about a prisoner of war camp during World War II, and his dramatic descent into the underbelly of Hollywood after the series was cancelled.

THE LAST PHRASE is incorrect. Bob Crane's descent did not begin AFTER the show was cancelled. It began during the filming of Hogan's Heroes.

I just watched the film last night and was immediately struck by your inaccuracy.

Since I and millions of others rely on Wikipedia, please fix this minor inaccuracy.

Ruth Z Deming Willow Grove PA USA

PS - Please forward this to the correct Wiki Dept. It's impossible for a first-timer like me to find the correct place. THANK YOU!!! 19:30, 25 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.37.166.202 (talk)
 * (Thanks for signing your post, but it only requires 4 tildes, like ~ .) Don't worry, you are in the right place. Do you have a reliable source to back up your claim? Xenon54 / talk / 19:41, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * There aren't 'Wiki Departments'. There are thousands and thousands of editors - like you - who work on Wikipedia in whatever time they have to spare. Be bold and fix it yourself - or if that is too daunting, a message on the Auto Focus|article's talk page suggesting the correction will be more appropriate than here, as it will target editors who are interested or knowledgeable about that page.
 * As Xenon 54 implied, you should have a reliable source for the information you are adding (though it may be that in this case a more appropriate edit would be simply to remove the wrong information, since it is presumably not referenced!) --ColinFine (talk) 00:38, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * We do actually have departments it seems, along with WikiProjects. --Teratornis (talk) 04:46, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

dog injury motrin
My yellow lab is injuried and i gave maybe at the most 200mg of motrin for the pain. Is there anything to be worried about until she can been seen by a Vet? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.10.199.11 (talk) 20:37, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Rx warning.png We cannot offer medical advice. Please see the medical disclaimer. Contact your General Practitioner. I believe the medical disclaimer is also applicable to veterinary medicine, but may be mistaken.  AJ Cham  20:47, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Your correct. Due to the nature of Wikipedia the absolute majority of the editors here has no medical degree whatsoever, and man could not reliably identify people that claim to be certified. As medical information is directly related to the wellbeing of a person, plan or animal there can be no mistakes or discussion about this subject as it could possibly cover a life-threatening situation. Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 20:55, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Contact to Excirial
I tried to contact Excirial with this response on his comment to me. But I could not get working any of the Wikipedia options to contact him. (why so complex?) So please forward this comment to Excirial '''. Jvos''' 23:29, 25 October 2009
 * Received. Give me a minute to read it. Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 21:35, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Responded on the user talk page. Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 22:13, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

terrible article
As you can see, this article is terrible: rebound therapy. It's hard to know what to do with this. Is it worth improving, or is deletion preferable? I welcome any opinions more informed than mine. YellowFives (talk) 22:11, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * The single most important determinant of whether an article should exist is whether it passes the notability guideline, which I believe this one does based on a Google-scholar search. It's generally held that if an article is notable, then it is always preferable to improve it rather than delete it, unless if the first step in improving the article would be to delete the existing content. This is why pages consisting of advertising, original research or unsourced defamations are deleted. But if the article is none of those things, and is simply written poorly, it is allowed to linger in the hope that some reader will come across it and make it better. There is no requirement that an article begin in a perfect or even decent state. Someguy1221 (talk) 22:23, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I reverted the article to an old version, cleaned it up a bit, removed all the external links as promotional, and added/changed two references. It could still use work but at least it is readable and more or less neutral now. Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 22:27, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Someguy1211, thank you for the explanation. And thank you for the demonstration, Excirial. It's much less scary now. YellowFives (talk) 22:35, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Moves without redirect
I think I already know the answer to this but I don't suppose it's possible for a non-admin to move a page without a redirect is it? Jeffrey Mall (talk • contribs) - 23:03, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately not, see WP:RIGHTS. Only admins, global rollbackers, bureaucrats and bots can do this. Note the emphasis on the global part in rollbackers, its different from the usual rollback group. Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 23:07, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Though you could request for pages in your userspace, or  for pages elsewhere, if the redirect is not plausible.  Intelligent  sium  23:10, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Cheers peeps. Jeffrey Mall (talk • contribs) - 00:48, 26 October 2009 (UTC)