Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2009 September 13

= September 13 =

Template over text problem
Could someone take a look at Greater_Manchester_Police and sort out the columns so that the third one isn't hidden behind the template? Thanks Smartse (talk) 00:17, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * No idea how to fix it, but I removed the columns until someone who knows how comes around. decltype (talk) 00:28, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. It's quite simple, actually. All you really have to do is substitute the with source code and change the width from 100% to 67%.  Intelligent  sium  01:38, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Adminship Request, Now what??
Hello wikipedia, i created a nomination for adminship, now what do i do. Am i suppose to wait and see if i get accepted.

This is my request for adminship page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Dwayneflanders

--Dwayneflanders 04:53, 13 September 2009 (UTC)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dwayneflanders (talk • contribs)


 * Instructions for starting an RfA are at Requests for adminship/Nominate. However, it's very unlikely that an editor with fewer than 500 edits will have a successful RfA. Shubinator (talk) 05:21, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I suggest you not transclude your nomination at all and ask for the page created to be deleted by tagging it with db-g7. The fact that you are nominating yourself for adminship without doing the necessary research to know that you have no chance whatever of passing adminship given your lack of experience, and are in fact unfit to act as an administrator for the same reason, is a good reason to question your fitness for adminship in the first place. I suggest you read Guide to requests for adminship.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 06:54, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree, not due to an assessment of your abilities as an editors, but the individuals looking at your request will see this, and likely call for a closure. Sephiroth storm (talk) 08:21, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree with the above. You are not ready to be an administrator - I have explained in a bit more detail on your talk page. My advice to you would be to read the advice above and on the RfA page. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 09:52, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Incidently, putting a message here could be construed as Canvassing, which is expressly discouraged for RfAs (see Requests_for_adminship/Nominate) --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 10:20, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Honestly, you will definitely need to wait for a few thousand edits + experience with various Wikipedia functions (i.e. Huggle/Rollback) before you even have a slim likelyhood of being awarded adminship. I recently started an RfA, and it was closed within hours... Ojay123 (Talk&bull;E-Mail&bull;Contribs&bull;Sandbox) 00:19, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Citations in the lead section
My question is: Since the lead section of an article is meant to summarize the rest of the article, are references/citations required in the lead section? All of the information in the lead section will be supported in the article body with citations/references. Just want to know if they're needed in the lead section too.

Thanks

Etrangere (talk) 06:00, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * WP:LEADCITE has the information you seek. w odu p  06:40, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Australian Network Television Schedule
I'm new here and was just wondering if it was possible to create a primetime australian television schedule listing just like the american one. Just wondering? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bruce65 (talk • contribs) 09:04, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * It might work for the commercial networks. You will notice the main American commercial networks - ABC, CBS and NBC - all have schedules, while PBS doesn't. So creating schedules for Seven, Nine, and Ten might work, but not for the other ABC or SBS, because public stations don't generally have rigid weekly schedules. The folks at WikiProject Television Stations might be able to advise you further on this matter. Xenon54 / talk / 11:54, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Quotations
Hi all,

I have added 2 quotations at the beginning of this article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniela_Malusardi).

Is everything OK?

Is it possible to put the names of the utterers just after the quotations, and not in the references place at the end of the article??

Thank you all!! --A less 2000 (talk) 09:26, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I have changed it from being a blockquote to a format (see the code). However, I am not sure that the quote should be in the lead of the article - it would probably be better in a "critical reception"  section. Incidently, may I just say well done on a new article which appears well sourced from a quick look! --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me,  My Contribs ) 10:07, 13 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you Phantomsteve! --A less 2000 (talk) 10:12, 13 September 2009 (UTC)


 * And just a quick reminder, to link to the article on Wikipedia, use this formatting Daniela Malusardi to give this link Daniela Malusardi. – ukexpat (talk) 16:04, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Sending Xmas Season's greetings to other users' talk page
Is it okay to do that? I just want to share the greetings of coming Christmas. Thanks.-- JL 09  q? c|undefined 14:32, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow, is it December already? If it actually refers to "Christmas", you might want to be sure about who you're sending it to. "Season's Greetings" is safer if you don't know. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 14:35, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah. I think it must be season's greetings.-- JL 09  q? c|undefined 14:37, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * A personal message to users with whom you have worked may be acceptable; a blanket send to a large number of users is likely to be considered spam. The least response would be the deleting of the messages and a reprimand, I think. // BL \\ (talk) 14:43, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, definitely restrict it to users you are friendly with, to avoid getting complaints back. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 14:53, 13 September 2009 (UTC)


 * hmmm. Okay. Thanks for the information. Cheers.-- JL 09  q? c|undefined 14:48, 13 September 2009 (UTC)


 * And wait until at least December 1, if not later. – ukexpat (talk) 16:05, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Season's greetings or Happy New Year is the best thing to do, to avoid getting into an argument over religion.

Ojay123 (Talk&bull;E-Mail&bull;Contribs&bull;Sandbox) 01:01, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

How to check whether a link is problematic?
See Talk:First Roumanian-American congregation. How can one check whether a link downloads stuff that can harm your computer? Thanks. ☺ Coppertwig (talk) 15:03, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I doubt the New York Times is trying to infect your computer. I think a part of any FA review is checking the references, so the reviewer definitely would have noticed. If you're worried, run a virus scan; there are plenty of free ones out there. Xenon54 / talk / 15:31, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * As Xenon54 says, the NYT is unlikely to be the source of an infection! With so many references, it's a bit hard to check them all - I think you are right leaving a message on the article's talk page. If you could remember which link it was, or where it lead (which could be linked to the reference) then it'd be a lot easier to investigate - perhaps you could check your browser's history? --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 15:55, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. All the links to NYT articles are to nytimes.com, so that's probably OK.
 * Thanks for the suggestion to look at my browser history, Phantomsteve! It seems to show that at 10:30 I went to the link for "N.Y.'s Landmarks Conservancy Awards Grants to Synagogues", one of the references for the article, which I do not think was problematic, and then at 10:35 I went to a certain link I won't name directly here.  It doesn't show me going to any nytimes.com pages at all.  I'm guessing that I clicked on a nytimes.com link, and a hacker somehow hijacked my browser to go to their site.  I did a web search for that, and found this discussion showing I'm not the only one who had that problem:  . I guess it's up to the New York Times to fix it. ☺ Coppertwig (talk) 16:20, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * The New York Times is aware of the problem, and say here We believe this was generated by an unauthorized advertisement and are working to prevent the problem from recurring. If you see such a warning, we suggest that you not click on it. Instead, quit and restart your Web browser.] --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 17:47, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Taxobox
I can't fix the taxobox on Trochosa ruricola. Joe Chill (talk) 16:05, 13 September 2009 (UTC)


 * You can click the "edit this page" tab at top to edit the lead section. See more at Lead section. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:10, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Instead of assuming that I'm a newbie, click on the article and look at the malformed taxobox. How can I fix it? Joe Chill (talk) 16:17, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, the help desk gets a lot of posts from people who don't know how to edit the lead. fixed it. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:32, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I played around with it using "preview". There was an extra semicolon, quotation mark and pipe displaying just before the name "Rustic wolf spider".  I found that changing the regnum from " Animalae " to " Animalia " seemed to fix it: I have no idea why (and I assume that might be making the information less correct).  However, Rkitko seems to have fixed it meanwhile.  In future, when asking questions like this, it would be helpful to provide more information.  It would have helped to have stated what was wrong with it (i.e. was it the extra semicolon and stuff you were concerned about?) and also to give a link to a page with correct display: I needed that for comparison, to experiment with. ☺ Coppertwig (talk) 16:42, 13 September 2009 (UTC)


 * My former post linked to the fix by me. The regnum parameter is passed to Taxobox colour which compares it to a limited number of allowed values. There is discussion at Template talk:Taxobox colour. Pages with invalid regnum value are placed in Category:Taxoboxes with an invalid color. The category is currently hidden on the invalid version  but only because I hid it after making the fix. Special:Preferences has the option "Show hidden categories" under Appearance. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:42, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Rollback Experience
How do i get rollback experience, because i tried to become a rollback user and they said i need more experience. How do i get that experience what do i have to do?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dwayneflanders (talk • contribs) 16:49, 13 September 2009
 * Sign your comments.:) Revert some vandalism with Twinkle first; show that you can tell what is vandalism and what is not. Tim Song (talk) 17:02, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * However, I would recommend that you read WP:VANDALISM first so that you know what vandalism is. your recent edits have no demonstrated that you necessarily understand what is vandalism and what is not. Remember, when using Twinkle, you are still accountable for your edits, as you would be if editing by hand. Also, you asked this question on the Request for Rollback page, and got reply. Please read the replies left on your talk page, on request pages, etc - they will help you! --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 19:21, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Unable to login due to capitalization
I am unable to login to my account, StJenna, as every time I go to the login page and type it my name, it "corrects" my username to all lowercase. So, when I hit enter, it says that username does not exist, even though I know it exists, because I can see my account on the articles I've updated (ex: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Garcia_%28director%29). I know my username is case sensitive, so I'm unsure how I can log in when the field is automatically reverting that way. Help! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.148.124.3 (talk) 17:16, 13 September 2009 (UTC)


 * That's due to your browser, not Wikipedia. Try typing your username correctly again after the browser has changed it. --AndrewHowse (talk) 18:01, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Why is Bonnier Corporation a separate Wiki article? This is a for-profit company? Confusted
If they can put an article up about who they are and what they do, can I do that for my company? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.178.11.225 (talk) 17:47, 13 September 2009 (UTC)


 * If your company meets the criteria at WP:CORP then it might merit an article. You, however, are strongly advised not to create it because you have a conflict of interest. Either suggest it at WP:AFC or let somebody else do it. --AndrewHowse (talk) 18:02, 13 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Try requested articles if you feel it meets the requirements for inclusion. ~ Amory  (user • talk • contribs) 18:09, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Articles on songs
Which songs get articles? Is it all of them, or do they have to meet certain standards? Master Frederique (talk) 17:50, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * See Notability (music). Algebraist 18:00, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Formatting
How do I change the position of images on a page? Take my user page for example. I've used the template to move some user boxes over to the right. I want to put something into the space in the middle between the table of contents and the user boxes. The template only has options for align left and align right. Any any ideas?! Dr Dec ( Talk )    18:27, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

To whom should I address a suggestion?
I've noticed on the Spanish Wikipedia that they have several links to several tools on a page's history page. You can click to get a list of editors, contribution details, search the history, get general statistics on an article, or check the number of visits to a page. Check out this page. The Herramientas are tools (list of editors, contribution details, and history search), the Estadísticas are statistics (general stats and number of visits). We should add this to our pages too. But to whom should I address this suggestion? Dr Dec ( Talk )    18:55, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Village pump (proposals) would be my guess.-- SPhilbrick  T  21:03, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Excellent. Thanks!  Dr Dec  ( Talk )    18:58, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Huggle
Can someone tell me how to correctly configure Huggle? --♪♫The New Mikemoraltalkcontribs 20:41, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Looking at Huggle/Download, you need to put the text  on Special:MyPage/huggle.css. If you're still having problems, you could try asking at Huggle/Feedback. Tra (Talk) 21:52, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I got. Just look at my contributions :). Best regards, --♪♫The New Mikemoraltalkcontribs 23:55, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: this thread has been moved from Wikipedia talk:Village pump. ▫  Johnny Mr Nin ja  18:49, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Stretton-on-Fosse
I made this page and, at the time of me posting this, has a no references tag at the bottom even though, I have added it in like I should and always do.De Mattia (talk) 04:50, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I've fixed it. You were missing the closing ref tag.- gadfium 06:29, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: this thread has been moved from Wikipedia talk:Village pump. ▫  Johnny Mr Nin ja  18:49, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Charles Edward Flower
The same thing has now happened again. I don't know if it is just appearing like that on my computer or if it appears like that everywhere around the world, but it's weird because I have put in the approriate tags at the bottom and the stub thing 'please help Wikipedia by expanding this article etc' hasn't come up either for me. De Mattia (talk) 06:28, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Look at what I did for the other case and see if you can fix it yourself.- gadfium 06:30, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: this thread has been moved from Wikipedia talk:Village pump. ▫  Johnny Mr Nin ja  18:49, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Another user before
I was another user before and I need a banner or a javascript box to show this thing on my user page. --TudorTulok (talk) 19:43, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: this thread has been moved from Wikipedia talk:Village pump. ▫  Johnny Mr Nin ja  18:49, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Just redirect the old userpage to your new one. -- &oelig; &trade; 19:07, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

A possible error?
Hi,

Checking my account history brings up several entries which I am positive I have not had a hand at. For example, I received a message from a member here in Wikipedia telling me I have repeatedly blanked large sections of various articles without consensus. Not being confident in my editing skills, I have only ever done some paraphrasing and spelling corrections, yet my history clearly shows this is not the case.

Is there some sort of error here?--85.64.46.148 (talk) 18:34, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * That message was from 4 years ago, which is a wiki-century. ;) Don't worry about it, just keep doing good stuff! Franamax (talk) 19:37, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: this thread has been moved from Wikipedia talk:Village pump. ▫  Johnny Mr Nin ja  18:54, 13 September 2009 (UTC)


 * This edit 4 years was made from the IP address you currently have, but somebody else probably had it back then. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:42, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey, we are commenting on a 3 months old post which somebody moved here. Ironic. The chance of the IP seeing the answer is pretty small. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:49, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Red Links
Is there a portal/category that shows which pages have the most red links to it? For instance, if person X is referenced in many article but still doesn't have one made for them, I'd like to make that page. So I'm basically looking for a list to see what uncreated page was the most links to it. Ol Yeller '''Talktome 15:37, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * There's Most wanted articles, but it doesn't seem to have been updated since October. — JAO • T • C 18:37, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: this thread has been moved from Wikipedia talk:Village pump. ▫  Johnny Mr Nin ja  18:49, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Today's featured picture
The page is protected from editing and I have no idea where one is supposed to go to point this out, but the text appending the photo of Gerald R. Ford is wrong. It reads, in part:


 * "...the Watergate scandal, which began an attempted break-in..."

When of course it should read:


 * "...the Watergate scandal, which began with an attempted break-in..."

Hopefully someone here is cleared to edit the page or can forward this to the appropriate page. If someone would note on my talk page where that is, so I know where to go in the future (I've noticed a similar error on the main page in the past), I'd appreciate that. Thanks, Abrazame (talk) 00:54, 17 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Resolved, I think you found the right place to report at Talk:Main Page--Commander Keane (talk) 02:58, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: this thread has been moved from Wikipedia talk:Village pump. ▫  Johnny Mr Nin ja  18:49, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

problem about Nadumangad article
An IP has edited Nedumangad article. He has made some useful contributions but has messed up a template. It is now showing throghout the whole page. Can anyone fix this?--EvilFlyingMonkey (talk) 15:23, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: this thread has been moved from Wikipedia talk:Village pump. ▫  Johnny Mr Nin ja  18:49, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Autoreviewers?
Hi, recently someone had changed rights for User:Craiglduncan from (none) to Autoreviewers (+trusted). What does this mean or do?--Craiglduncan (talk) 19:01, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: this thread has been moved from Wikipedia talk:Village pump. ▫  Johnny Mr Nin ja  18:49, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Basically, this means that any page you create will automatically be patrolled, clearing the backlog for New Page Patrollers. See WP:AUTOREVIEWER for more info.--Unionhawk Talk E-mail Review 18:54, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

France
Bonjour, if I tell you "France", what do you think in first ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.203.247.71 (talk) 18:59, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * If you say "France", I think of the country. Is that your question? Xenon54 / talk / 19:01, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

3 revert rule
24.184.200.190 (talk) How do I report a violation of the 3 revert rule?


 * WP:AN3 -- &oelig; &trade; 20:28, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * (e/c)I see 1 revert. The rule is "3 reverts to one page in one 24-hour period." Reverting once on 1/9, once on 10/9 and once today is not 3 reverts in 24 hours. Xenon54 / talk / 20:31, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * (ec) :I would suggest the admin's notice board. But they're not likely to take any serious action unless the circumstances demand it. See here for more details.  Dr Dec  ( Talk )    20:40, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Finding a car owner
How can I find the owner of a car in Northern Cyprus by it's numberplate. Thanks Natalie —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.196.10.6 (talk) 21:18, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * You'll probably need the help of your local authorities, but even then they'll probably only help you if it's involved with a crime, such as a hit-and-run. Such records are not available on the Internet. Please take any more factual questions you may have to the Reference desk. Xenon54 / talk / 21:52, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

christmas album
i`m looking for an album released in the 80`s for a charity. the album was red in colour and had artist like annie lennox, bros and many more. it had all the classic songs from silent night, white christmas, sleigh bells ring are u listening. thats about all i remember as my nanna got it me when i was young and have been seaching since. if you could help me in this matter i`d be very grateful. thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.214.137.72 (talk) 21:43, 13 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Have you tried the Entertainment section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:57, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

what does this mean?
"if you cant discover what's keeping you in,the will to get out soon becomes confused and inffectual —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.110.140.74 (talk) 21:45, 13 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Maybe a Google search is of help. Have you tried the Humanities section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia.  For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:56, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Please do your own homework. Welcome to the Wikipedia Help desk. Your question appears to be a homework question. I apologize if this is a misevaluation, but it is our policy here to not do people's homework for them, but to merely aid them in doing it themselves. Letting someone else do your homework does not help you learn how to solve such problems. Please attempt to solve the problem yourself first. You can or. If you need help with a specific part of your homework, the Reference desk can help you grasp the concept. Do not ask knowledge questions here, just those about using Wikipedia. Ojay123 (Talk&bull;E-Mail&bull;Contribs&bull;Sandbox) 01:24, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Wikitable
I have created a wikitable / chart ... but it's not doing quite what I want it to do. What is the correct help page to get specific feedback? Is it this page ... or some other? Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro, 13 September 2009)


 * This is the right page. You are going to have to tell us which article you're talking about. Looking at your contributions, it might be Donald Brown (running back) but that article doesn't have any tables that are screwed up. Help:Table might answer your question, otherwise please ask here. Xenon54 / talk / 22:16, 13 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi. Thanks.  Please see the  second  chart (Testing new chart #1: Revised) on this page: Talk:Donald Brown (running back).  Here are my 2 questions.  (1)  How do I make the words "Rushing" and "Receiving" in the top row become centered across their respective 4-column spaces? (2) How can I get the word "Year" in only one box and also be centered?  In other words, take BOTH boxes that currently say "Year" ... and make them become only one bigger box that is "taller".  In other words, take the current two boxes that say "Year" and just make them all one larger box?  If possible, I would like the word "Year" centered (both vertically and horizontally) in the new larger (2-row) box.  Thank you.   (Joseph A. Spadaro, 13 September 2009)


 * I believe I've fixed the chart at Talk:Donald Brown (running back).
 * It looks like you already figured out that yourself by adding "colspan".
 * I fixed "Year" like you requested, using "rowspan".
 * You can learn more about using both of these at Help:Table.  hmwith  ☮ 22:02, 14 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your help. You did indeed help me solve problem number 2.  But not problem number 1.  Regarding problem number 1 ... I was able to use "colspan" to get the words Receiving and Rushing in the correct cells.  But -- what I was struggling with -- was getting the words to be "centered"  within  the 4-column span.  In other words, right now, it says: "Receiving - blank space - blank space - blank space - blank space - etc."  What I would like it to say is: "blank space - blank space - blank space - blank space - Receiving - blank space - blank space - blank space - blank space" (so that it the word is in the  center  of the 4-column span).  This would be similar to the way that the word Redshirted appears in the (original) Chart directly on top of this (revised) Chart on that Talk Page.  Thanks.   (Joseph A. Spadaro, 14 September 2009)


 * What browser are you using? Internet Explorer? It showed up fine (centered) when I viewed it originally in Firefox. It also shows up fine in Chrome. However, when I tried it in IE, it showed up on the left. I'm afraid that it won't center in IE for some reason; IE has a lot of similar issues. I'd recommend an upgrade to another browser, such as Firefox. Then, you won't have so many problems with pages showing up oddly on Wikipedia or otherwise.  hmwith  ☮ 01:51, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Wikitable, Part 2
How do I make the font in the header white, and how do I extend the header to the far right of the table? I could not figure it out from Help:Table Thanks!!! Location (talk) 22:23, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * {| class="toccolours" style="text-align: right;"

! colspan="7" style="background-color:#0000FF;"| Does this help?


 * row 1, cell 1
 * row 1, cell 2
 * row 1, cell 3
 * row 2, cell 1
 * row 2, cell 2
 * row 2, cell 3
 * }  Intelligent  sium  23:00, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * row 2, cell 3
 * }  Intelligent  sium  23:00, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm getting there. Location (talk) 23:12, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

How do I start a new page?
how do I start a new page ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.91.10.76 (talk) 23:02, 13 September 2009 (UTC)


 * You must be logged in to create a page. If you have not already, why not register? It's free, easy, and requires no personal information. Otherwise, you can submit it for review at WP:AfC, but this may take several hours, if not days.  Intelligent  sium  23:15, 13 September 2009 (UTC)