Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2010 December 16

= December 16 =

Smaller Donations
If "all of Wikipedia's 400 million users would donate $1 each, we would have 20 times the amount of money we need," why is there no option for me to donate $1? I'm a poor college student. I don't have $20 dollars to spare, but i do have $3. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.164.41.122 (talk) 00:07, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * On the donations page, as well as fixed-sum options, there is an option to input your own amount -- Phantom Steve .alt/talk \[alternative account of Phantomsteve] 02:37, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Where is the article I wrote£
Is there a period wherein new articles are held for review prior to posting? I have SAVED (and therefore thought submitted) an article about ETHAN ALLEN RUSSELL - but it does not appear online, nor within Wikipedia with its proper headline (Ethan Allen Russell). I have no doubt done something wrong - but can't figure out what it is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sofiarose (talk • contribs) 00:15, 16 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I've answered on your talk page, but I'll answer here too - it's at User:Sofiarose/Ethan Allen Russell. DuncanHill (talk) 00:43, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * It needs inline references. Kittybrewster &#9742;  18:06, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Occidental - suggested edits
I've proposed adding a section regarding "Financial performance" (Sandbox) to the Occidental Petroleum article, similar to what I've seen on other corporate articles. The article's talk page isn't terribly active, so I'm coming here for assistance. Due to a potential conflict of interest (detailed on the talk page), I'd like to seek consensus from the community before making this addition. My full request can be found on the talk page; please leave responses there if possible. Thanks --CBuiltother (talk) 00:16, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Need someone to help find italic problem
See Nina Kiriki Hoffman. Apparently, the template italic title is ending up transcluded on this page somewhere, however I cannot find it. Can someone find (and fix) the source of this problem? -- Jayron  32  00:23, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Nevermind. It is apparently a hidden part of infobox book.  I have fixed the problem.  -- Jayron  32  00:24, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * infobox book mentions the option |italic title=no . PrimeHunter (talk) 00:43, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

IT'S NOT SHOWING UP
How come the pages Peer review/Emirates (airline)/archive1 and Peer review/Japan Airlines/archive1 aren't showing up on WikiProject Airlines? As far as I know, any airline article that has a peer review case has an announcement at WikiProject Airlines; what's going on here?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.45.186.197 (talk) 02:22, 16 December 2010 (UTC)


 * These notifcations were sent by a bot that is no longer running. According to this page, a new system is currently being tested but not all WikiProjects are included in the test runs. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:00, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

WikiLeaks
What does Wikipedia have to do with WikiLeaks, if anything? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.94.77.234 (talk) 02:39, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The two are not connected at all. The reason for the similarity of name is that both use Wiki software to run their site.  See  WikiLeaks is not part of Wikipedia   GB  fan  02:43, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia has nothing to do with Wikileaks. --Monterey Bay (talk) 02:46, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

shared IP address?
I'm not sure if my IP address is shared or not... But I came to wikipedia today to look up information, and I was shown a list of edits that I didn't make and one that I did. Usually, I only look at the pages here for general information, so being told I made all sorts of edits I, personally, did not make is upsetting. I made an account, but how do I know if my IP address is shared or not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tiedyeandchains (talk • contribs) 03:49, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * You are probably on a dynamic IP address. The IP was probably used by others in the past and they made thos edits.  If you log in with your new username from now on all edits you make will be attributed to your username.   GB  fan  04:03, 16 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Now that you have an account you needn't worry about shared IP addresses. Provided you are logged in to your account when you edit, your edits will be associated with your user name, not an IP address. Only a very small number of trusted users with checkuser rights can access the IP address(es) associated with your user name. – ukexpat (talk) 04:04, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Blocked Message from Wickipedia
Hi, I have the following messages: Welcome to Wikipedia. The recent edit you made to Template:Brokeback Mountain has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Use the sandbox for testing; if you believe the edit was constructive, ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing. Thank you. Staxringold talkcontribs 02:48, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

The recent edit you made to Brokeback Mountain constitutes vandalism, and has been reverted. Please do not continue to vandalize pages; use the sandbox for testing. Thank you. Tiderolls 02:58, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Please do not vandalize pages, as you did with this edit to Brokeback Mountain. If you continue to do so, you will be blocked from editing. Tiderolls 03:03, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

This is your last warning. You will be blocked from editing the next time you vandalize a page, as you did with this edit to Brokeback Mountain. Tiderolls 03:06, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 48 hours for Vandalism. If you wish to make useful contributions, you may do so when the block expires. If you feel this block is unjustified, you may contest it by adding the text your reason here below. Tiderolls 03:09, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

I have no idea what you are talking about. And, the last pragraph with "Instructions to unblock" is meaningless to me because I can not find a palce to add the text. 12.97.23.226 (talk) 03:56, 16 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Your IP address hasn't been is no longer blocked so don't worry about the unblocking stuff. Your ISP probably uses dynamic IP addresses, so if you didn't make any unconstructive edits you can ignore the warning. – ukexpat (talk) 04:01, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Political figures
Malcon x,Martin Luther King,Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko have the same political features.shortly explicate this ideas.with vivid examples,how are these ideas helpfull in todays Africa? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.222.183.101 (talk) 07:24, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Crystal128-fonts.svg|20px]] Please use a descriptive title in future questions. I have added one
 * P art.png This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Humanities reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try  for an article related to the topic you want to know more about.  I hope this helps.. You might find useful information in the articles Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko.
 * Pictogram voting delete.svg Please do your own homework. Welcome to the Wikipedia Help desk. Your question appears to be a homework question. I apologize if this is a misevaluation, but it is our policy here not to do others' homework, but merely to aid them in doing it themselves. Letting someone else do your homework does not help you learn how to solve such problems. Please attempt to solve the problem yourself first. You can or . If you need help with a specific part of your homework, the Reference desk can help you grasp the concept.  Do not ask knowledge questions here, just those about using Wikipedia.. --ColinFine (talk) 08:11, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Wiki for Thomas Edison - Error listing schools named after him
The line "two (community) colleges are named for him: (Edison State College) in Fort Myers, Florida, and Edison Community College in Piqua, Ohio..." is incorrect. Edison State College is no longer a 'community' college but as the name suggests it is a 'state' college. The insitute is located in Florida where a distinction is made between the two types of higher learning centers.

76.5.29.122 (talk) 07:51, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * If you find errors in Wikipedia - and you have reliable sources for the right information - be bold and make the changes. By the way, Thomas Edison is not a "Wiki for Thomas Edison", but one out of millions of pages in Wikipedia, which is itself one out of thousands of wikis. --ColinFine (talk) 08:15, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Email domain change
Montenegro changed its national domain from .yu (we are a former Yugoslavian republic) to .me (Montenegro). By this @cg.yu email domain was changed to @t-com.me ("cg" originaly stood for "Internet CG", but this state-owned company was bought by T-Com some time before the change of domain).

I have forgot my password and Mediawiki is sending me a new password to the out-of-use @cg.yu. It would be great if all email addresses on all Wikimedia projects would be changed for all users that have an email address with @cg.yu and all of them notified on their new emails. If that is not possible is it at least possible to change mine? I have from 2003 to 2006 been an active editor on many projects, particularly on sr:Wikipedia, en:Wikipedia and sr:Wikinews.

This happened few years ago, and there was a period (6 months probably) when both domains where active. If I have changed my email address in this period there would not have been no problem, but I didn't have an Internet access at the time. I would have used somebody elses if it crossed my mind that domain change could do this to me. I wanted to reach out to someone for this for a long while but I didn't know who. I'm sure that many others (who haven't done this like I have not) have resolved this problem by registering a new username. I wish to keep mine. --Milan Tešović 09:42, 16 December 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.143.100.252 (talk)


 * Since no one has tried to reply to you yet, here is a possible way forward that I'd like other help desk volunteers to comment on: If you sent an email explaining this problem from yournameexample.t-com.me to one of the Wikipedia email addresses (which one?), this might be good enough evidence that you used to be in control of the email account yournameexample.cg.yu, and should therefore be allowed to recover control of the Wikipedia account.


 * This would be an exception to the usual advice here, which you've obviously read. I expect there will be policy or technical reasons that my suggestion can't be used. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:38, 16 December 2010 (UTC)


 * meta:Privacy policy says: "users may be able to contact one of the Wikimedia server administrators to enter a new e-mail address". I don't know whether this actually happens or what it requires. I didn't get a reply at Village pump (technical)/Archive 82. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:52, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

I think that this is enough evidence for the email to be changed (with no exemption whoever had control of someone@cg.yu now has the someone@t-com.me), and once it's changed it will be easy to get a new password. --Milan Tešović 07:26, 17 December 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.143.100.252 (talk)

When the .yu domain was phased out, all e-mail addresses ending with @cg.yu were replaced with @t-com.me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.143.100.252 (talk) 07:30, 17 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I asked a randomly-chosen bureaucrat to comment on this, since my understanding is that even an administrator at the English Wikipedia does not have the tools to update your email address. He agreed but didn't give a clear pointer as to what you should do next.
 * I think that you'll have to follow the usual advice and choose a new name. I suspect that only a tiny handful of people are trusted with whatever tools are needed to address your problem, and that these people will be hard to track down and will be extremely busy.
 * I'm sorry not to have been more helpful. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:48, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Want some information about Amigotechs software
i Want some information about Amigotechs software. There is nothing i found on wikipedia. Here is the website : http://www.amigotechs.com I wish you will gather the information about this gambling software very soon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.97.210.2 (talk) 10:12, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Symbol_move_vote.svg Have you tried the section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia.  For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: [ click here] . I hope this helps.  TN X Man  15:08, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Inquiry about a recently deleted page... thank you for your help
Hi. I understand that a page was recently deleted, however it would be helpful if you had an archive of the page so I can view it privately. I know you said not to put in emails, but I would like for you to email me the original page prior to its deletion. I wish to view it for my own purpose and nothing more. The page that was deleted is this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_knippers_jr

Please email to today.

Thanks so much for you assistance on this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.164.77.177 (talk) 10:36, 16 December 2010 (UTC)


 * The page is still visible in Google's cache; you can see it by Googling for "Anthony knippers jr" and then clicking "cached". The text has no encyclopedic value at all. I have removed your email address to protect your privacy; the instructions at the top of the page were fairly clear on this. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:54, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Associated with Wikipedia?
This site looks similiar to Wikipedia, is it associated with wikipedia? http://www.recom.org/wiki/Portal:Entrepreneurship — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alg7 munif (talk • contribs) 11:07, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * No it is not associated with Wikipedia or the Wikimedia Foundation. It just uses the same free software, MediaWiki   GB  fan  11:17, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Any existing template for listing projects undertaken by a charity/organisation
Hi, I'm looking at the "Projects" list at The Rix Centre and I have a few questions: Cheers Wikipedians Darigan (talk) 11:42, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Is it suitable to include this list of projects in the first place (I believe that it is, but am keen on other people's opinions)?
 * The list layout doesn't look particularly good - Is there a suitable existing template that I could flow the list into (I also intend to update/expand the list), or perhaps a suitable existing style that I should follow?


 * Generally speaking complete lists of stuff such as this are not encyclopedic. It may be appropriate to list the notable ones, ie those which have received coverage in reliable sources. The general principal is that Wikipedia is not a directory. – ukexpat (talk) 15:56, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Submitting information about a musician
Can you tell me why in Wikipedia's instructions it states not to set up pages for musicians, but there are quite a few already set up on here? Many thanks. Sonya — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sonya2010 (talk • contribs) 15:04, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually, there is no page that says that. However, Wikipedia only accepts articles about musicians that are notable enough to warrant inclusion in an encyclopedia. You should read our guide to writing your first article. TN X Man  15:06, 16 December 2010 (UTC)


 * See also Notability (music). Can you give a link to the page with the instructions you refer to? PrimeHunter (talk) 16:59, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Table not accessible
I want to change the conversion factor for Pascals to pounds per square inch in a table at, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pounds_per_square_inch, but nothing appears in the edit window. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Totally illegal (talk • contribs) 15:29, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * What do you need to change it to? The number in the article looks 100% correct to me.  The table is a transcluded template located at Pressure Units, so you would need to edit THAT table, but the actual numbers in the table look correct to me... -- Jayron  32  15:34, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

The number is off by a factor of 100. One Pascal = 145x10^-6lbs/in^2, not 10^-8. (nt./m^2)*(kg/9.8nt.)*(2.2lbs/kg)*m^2/100^2cm^2)*(2.54^2cm^2/in^2) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Totally illegal (talk • contribs) 15:59, 16 December 2010 (UTC)


 * While it's quite small at standard display settings, the exponent in the entry for that cell of the table is indeed -6, not -8. So I think we're all in violent agreement here! --AndrewHowse (talk) 16:49, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Kjære Herr/Fru
Kjære Herr, Fru. Jeg lurer på om dere har Norske brukere? Jeg ønsker å snakke med Norske brukere. Jeg er veldig interessert i dette og lurer på hvordan jeg kan snakke med en Norsk bruker. Hilsen Jan Petter Tollefsen, Norge. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.167.163.199 (talk) 16:40, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Hei! Så lott at du vil bidra til Wikipedia. Dette er engelsk Wikipedia, her kan du kun bidra på engelsk. Vil du bidra på norsk, her det bedre å se på norsk wikipedia. Lykke til! MikeNicho231 (talk) 16:49, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * However, Category:User no lists users who assert some ability in Norwegian. --AndrewHowse (talk) 16:58, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

New Page
I'm new to Wikipedia and I was wondering if it is possible to make a new page or can you just edit already existing ones? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hondaman4321 (talk • contribs) 16:57, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Some of our best articles come from new editors! Follow this link. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  17:02, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, and most of our deleted articles come from new editors. The most critical factor in determining whether a new article will survive on Wikipedia is its subject. What do you want to write about? In general, it is better to begin by making small edits to existing articles, then watch what other editors do to your edits, while you read the friendly manuals to learn the complexity of Wikipedia. --Teratornis (talk) 22:50, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I thought most deleted articles were the ones that had been around since Wikipedia was young, and just destroyed in the past year or two as the standards of inclusion changed.  D r e a m Focus  22:55, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * @Dreamfocus Speaking as an admin, that is definately NOT true. Hundreds of newly created articles are deleated every day.  Only occasionally is an older article deleted, and even then most articles which are older than a few months usually go through a deliberative 7-day deletion discussion at AFD.  AFD probably only deletes maybe a dozen or two articles a day; WP:CSD handles that much in an hour or so.  -- Jayron  32  02:47, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
 * While I don't have data, I would suspect that as Wikipedia accumulates articles on more and more of the obviously notable topics, there are proportionately fewer remaining notable topics to write about. Thus I would not be surprised to learn that a new article's chances of sticking are lower today than they were in, say, 2003. When Wikipedia was new, there were lots of notable topics that did not have articles yet. For example, the person who started the Jupiter article probably did not have to worry about whether it would be notable enough. Extrapolate forward another ten years, and it might be getting pretty hard to start a new article here by then. There will still be topics left to write about, but they might be on obscure scholarly specialties that the average person doesn't tend to know. --Teratornis (talk) 20:56, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is all about being able to start and make a page straight away. Just make sure to find something in Google news archive search or a book search, to prove its notable, or someone will try to erase it straight away.  Find two newspapers that mention it, and it is usually fine.   D r e a m Focus  22:55, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Even so, it would be smart for a new user to ask the Help desk if a specific topic is suitable for a new article. There are some large classes of topics that are unsuitable for Wikipedia, and some topics that have a low chance of sticking. It's hard for a new user to tell whether a particular topic is doomed from the start, so it's best to ask the Help desk before sinking in hours of work on creating the article. --Teratornis (talk) 20:56, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey, usually I'm the one accused of inhospitability towards the noobs! I was all Mr. Welcome, and youse guys are all, "It's tough, kid; you may not want to try..." -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  22:14, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Cursor not defaulting to search box upon opening Wikipedia
One annoying feature about Wikipedia is that fact that (unlike major search engines), you have to click in the search box after you open up the Wikipedia main page. Can't you make a simple HTML change to default the cursor to the search box upon opening of the main Wikipedia page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.183.224.2 (talk) 17:40, 16 December 2010 (UTC)


 * This comes up a lot. In general, most people do NOT want this feature.  If you really really really want it, you can use www.wikipedia.org which acts more like a search engine than an encyclopedia. -- k a i n a w &trade; 17:59, 16 December 2010 (UTC)


 * See FAQ/Main Page PrimeHunter (talk) 18:00, 16 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I might add that a registered user can supposedly use My preferences/Gadgets to put the cursor in the search box. When I first checked that setting, it worked, but it's never worked since. I might also add (he says in a fit of pique) when I just looked at My preferences, I saw the fundraising banner, even though I have that turned off. Sigh.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:23, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

New text now displaying as centered, not left-justified
I just added a comment on a talk page and used the usual colon in column 1 to indicate that it should be indented. In the same talk page I added a new comment unindented. Both additions show up centered, not indented. Strangely, earlier comments on the page still show up left-justified or left-justified indented, as they should. Is someone mucking around with the Wiki code? If this stuff gets permanently embedded in page edits, it will be a disaster and could take months to correct. &mdash;QuicksilverT @ 19:32, 16 December 2010 (UTC)


 * It was an unclosed div. I have fixed it: . PrimeHunter (talk) 19:36, 16 December 2010 (UTC)


 * You beat me to it. I just found the problem, too. I shouldn't have panicked. Thanks.&mdash;QuicksilverT @ 19:38, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

help deleting a redirect
Could an admin please delete the redirect page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Figurenude_%2826%29_by_Curtis_Neeley.jpg

The Wikipedia Foundation authorized the name change but the redirect causes Google Inc image searches to still result in attributions to "Curtis Neeley" instead on the CN Foundation. This causes the search for "Curtis Neeley" to show this nude in an image search for children at school even using the "safe" setting. Can the redirect simply be removed so a 404 is a result please? CurtisNeeley (talk) 19:55, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * It looks like the page has been deleted at Wikipedia, but the original redirect exists at Commons. You are going to have to ask the question over at Commons (commons.wikimedia.org) instead of here.  -- Jayron  32  02:44, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

I've buggered it up!
Hi,

I saw Category:Public universities in Oklahoma as a new creation for a newbie user, looked at it and realised it was meant to go into main space rather than category space. I tried to move it but the nature of Category namepsace is you can't move what's there. So I listed it for deletion, but in my tiredness have listed it as mfd rather than cfd, and now I obviously can't undo the WP discussion page I created, and now I'm too tired, and I have to go back to work, and, and, and...

In short, can someone sort out my mess for me please? I'll give you a cookie if you do.

--  role <em style="font-family:Verdana;color:#9ACD32">player 20:28, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * MFD page deleted as G6 (housekeeping), MFD notice removed from page, category listed at CfD for conversion to an article. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  20:40, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * This is now at List of public universities in Oklahoma. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:17, 16 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you guys, cookies duly left on your talk pages. --  role <em style="font-family:Verdana;color:#9ACD32">player 03:42, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Process of creating
Please let me know the process of createing a article carring information of company.

eg: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashutoshmund (talk • contribs) 20:55, 16 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines with which all articles should comply. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.


 * Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.


 * If you still think an article is appropriate, see Your first article. You might also look at How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. An Article Wizard is also available to walk you through creating an article. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  20:57, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * And see WP:CORP and WP:BFAQ. If the company is not notable enough to have an article on Wikipedia, you can write about any company on WikiCompany (not affiliated with the Wikimedia Foundation but it runs on the same MediaWiki software that powers Wikipedia, so editing there is similar to editing here). --Teratornis (talk) 22:42, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The example you gave of Microsoft is a featured article on Wikipedia. See WP:FAC for what that entails. --Teratornis (talk) 22:46, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Math in templates using parameters
I know this should be easy, but it is just not popping out for me. If I pass a parameter in a template call as (the first unnamed parameter) how do I subtract 1 from it and use that within the template? Vegaswikian (talk) 22:08, 16 December 2010 (UTC) . If is not a mandatory parameter I would recommend using something like. <font style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"> Intelligent  sium  22:24, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Assuming its value will be a number, you can use the #expr: parser function, like so:
 * Thanks. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:33, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

change back to original format
When I logged in I was usually able to go back to the original format that had the smaller text and the search box on the left side of the page. I can't seem to find the button that lets me view wikipedia in its original format. How can I do this? Rhwelrhewlrhwler (talk) 22:10, 16 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Go to your preferences --> Appearance tab --> Select "Monobook" in the Skin section --> . Then bypass your browser cache. – ukexpat (talk) 22:17, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Logos
can you please upload an image of the logo of sunchon national university and holy angel university found on their respective websites? pls. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.92.130.1 (talk) 22:59, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
 * See Commons:COM:CB for some information about the copyright status of logos. --Teratornis (talk) 01:00, 17 December 2010 (UTC)


 * And the folks who hang out at WP:Files for upload and WP:Media copyright questions can help with specifics. – ukexpat (talk) 17:32, 17 December 2010 (UTC)