Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2010 December 26

= December 26 =

need to know
can two people use the same email address on plenty of fish —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.55.236.95 (talk) 00:20, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
 * This forum is for asking questions about how to use Wikipedia. I suggest you contact PlentyOfFish for an answer to your question.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:25, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. --Teratornis (talk) 00:27, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

An ordinary average guy like to donate
Hello there!!!

My name is Arun I'm a normal person who came here to UK to do my masters degree from India. I have gone through the appeal statement written by Jimmy Wales and I'm really pleased. I would like to donate some amount of my own money that I have earned from my part time job. But I'm not sure how can I send it if some one can tell me of how to send it I can do whatever I can from my side. I guess a little amount of £5 will contribute to some amount. To be honest I will do more after I get into a good professional job. Thanks. Merry Christmas!!!

Regards Arun Bhoopathy —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.72.245.68 (talk) 01:53, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
 * You can use the form on the side of this page. / ƒETCH COMMS  /  03:13, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Getting repeated errors when editing
Several times today I've gotten an error while editing. Once it happened when I clicked on the "edit" link for a section in an article, and another time it was when I was trying to save an article. Here are the messages I got the last time:

Internal error From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search

PPFrame_DOM::expand: Invalid parameter type

Backtrace:


 * 1) 0 /usr/local/apache/common-local/wmf-deployment/includes/parser/Parser.php(2733): PPFrame_DOM->expand(Object(PPNode_DOM), 0)
 * 2) 1 /usr/local/apache/common-local/wmf-deployment/includes/parser/Parser.php(518): Parser->replaceVariables('{{editnotice lo...')
 * 3) 2 /usr/local/apache/common-local/wmf-deployment/includes/parser/Parser.php(4194): Parser->preprocess('{{editnotice lo...', Object(Title), Object(ParserOptions))
 * 4) 3 /usr/local/apache/common-local/wmf-deployment/includes/MessageCache.php(674): Parser->transformMsg('{{editnotice lo...', Object(ParserOptions))
 * 5) 4 /usr/local/apache/common-local/wmf-deployment/includes/GlobalFunctions.php(744): MessageCache->transform('{{editnotice lo...')
 * 6) 5 /usr/local/apache/common-local/wmf-deployment/includes/GlobalFunctions.php(707): wfMsgGetKey('editnotice-0', true, true, true)
 * 7) 6 /usr/local/apache/common-local/wmf-deployment/includes/GlobalFunctions.php(655): wfMsgReal('editnotice-0', Array, true, true)
 * 8) 7 /usr/local/apache/common-local/wmf-deployment/includes/EditPage.php(369): wfMsgForContent('editnotice-0')
 * 9) 8 /usr/local/apache/common-local/wmf-deployment/includes/EditPage.php(271): EditPage->edit
 * 10) 9 /usr/local/apache/common-local/wmf-deployment/includes/Wiki.php(553): EditPage->submit
 * 11) 10 /usr/local/apache/common-local/wmf-deployment/includes/Wiki.php(70): MediaWiki->performAction(Object(OutputPage), Object(Article), Object(Title), Object(User), Object(WebRequest))
 * 12) 11 /usr/local/apache/common-local/wmf-deployment/index.php(117): MediaWiki->performRequestForTitle(Object(Title), Object(Article), Object(OutputPage), Object(User), Object(WebRequest))
 * 13) 12 /usr/local/apache/common-local/live-1.5/index.php(3): require('/usr/local/apac...')
 * 14) 13 {main}

It's not urgent because I can just try again and things work, but I thought I should report it. Let me know if I can provide any further information. --Auntof6 (talk) 04:59, 26 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I've been experiencing the same problem and also repeat my action just like Auntof6.--Bbb23 (talk) 05:04, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The problem is being discussed at here at the Pump.--Bbb23 (talk) 05:09, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Font size for MATH "$$$$"
The font size in Vascular_resistance is much too big and is running off the page. There must be a way to make font-size smaller using MATH "$$$$", but I cannot find it in Help:Displaying_a_formula or other places that I have looked in Wikipedia. --Ben Best

Making Donations To Wikipedia: Why Should I Have To Pay Through PayPal?
Is there any chance of alternative payment methods being made available for making donations to Wikipedia? I, personally, don't want to have to make donations through PayPal.

There are several reasons for this, such as them [PayPal] being owned by eBay (which openly enforces business practises that are not in line with UK trading laws), because I do not see why PayPal should profit (financially or otherwise) from donations I make, because PayPal are not finincially regulated in any way so, unlikely though it may be, they could just close up business tonight and there would be absolutely nothing anyone could do to reclaim any funds they hold, and because I am sure that there are a good many other people who would rather not, too, and who would be much more inclined to support Wikipedia if there were other donation methods available, including cheques, postal orders, and the option to pay direct into a bank account by BACs or IBAN. - These options would also avoid the overhead of card processing facilities. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.42.227.241 (talk) 10:42, 26 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your interesting in supporting the project. If you go to this page you should be able to select "GBP" as the currency and make a donation by credit card. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:14, 26 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Also, that page is maintained by Wiki UK Ltd d/b/a Wikimedia UK. They can be reached via the methods outlined on their contact page.    —  Jeff G.  ツ  14:16, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

An ordinary average guy like to donate
Hello there!!!

My name is Arun I'm a normal person who came here to UK to do my masters degree from India. I have gone through the appeal statement written by Jimmy Wales and I'm really pleased. I would like to donate some amount of my own money that I have earned from my part time job. But I'm not sure how can I send it if some one can tell me of how to send it I can do whatever I can from my side. I guess a little amount of £5 will contribute to some amount. To be honest I will do more after I get into a good professional job. Thanks. Merry Christmas!!!

Regards Arun Bhoopathy —Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.78.100.52 (talk) 11:34, 26 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your interest in supporting the project. As User:Fetchcomms advised you earlier today, you can donate using the form on the side of this page. You may find this other page more convenient because it offers a "Credit Card" option - just select "GBP" from the list of currencies. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:42, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

DIVORCED WOMEN
Question one: Why is the followiing verse not taught or spoken about? They teach women and men alike that when a women fulfills her Iddat period that she cannot marry her ex-husband. Iddat period is three months. Please explain to me why the Qur'an allows marriage with the ex-husband/ex-wife and humans don't and change it. Al-Baqarah part 2 verse 232: AND WHEN YOU HAVE DIVORCED WOMEN AND THE HAVE FULFILLED THE TERM OF THEIR PRESCRIBED PERIOD, DO NOT PREVENT THEM FROM MARRYING THEIR (FORMER) HUSBANDS, IF THEY AGREE ON REASONABLE BASIS. THIS (INSTRUCTION)IS AN ADMONITION FOR HIM AMONG YOU WHO BELIEVES IN ALLAH AND THE LAST DAY. THAT IS MORE VIRTOUS AND PURER FOR YOU. ALLAH KNOWS AND YOU KNOW NOT. Question two: The Shari'ah written by the hand of man was supposed to write the law directly from the Qur'an. Tell me why is it that they state and teach men and women alike that a divorced woman should be payed maintenance of a three months period and then the ex-husband no longer needs to pay maintenance to her. The Qur'an gave no where any indication that there is a prescribed time period for a divorced womens' maintenance. Could it be that men have become selfish by just finding any reason to divorce a women, then marry another women and using the second marriage as an excuse not to pay maintenace just so he can live a comfortable life? Allah knows women don't usually work and are deprived to work from many men to the point of staying at home and bear children. Now why will men treat women so unjustly when they the women have no where else to go, with no money, no place to stay and no work experience. Explain to me in truth. Al-Baqarah part 2 verse 241: AND FOR DIVORCED WOMEN, MAINTANCE (SHOULD BE PROVIDED) ON REASONABLE (SCALE). THIS IS A DUTY ON AL-MUTTAQUN (THE PIOUS). Question three: I do not wish to cause friction here. Please read the following with an open mind, thank you: The part about rape on women is permissable (allowed) give me on this site the Qur'anic verses. Cause according to the Qur'an a man must not go to his wife in a animal manner (that means violent, by just taking her without her permission and forcing her, like dogs, cats, elephants, crocodiles etc does to their female animals. Not to mention the fact that if men and women alike commits adultry whilst being married they will receive the DEATH sentence, even if it is a SLAVE. Right hand possed means that she is available for you to marry her and you already have her (practicticlly own her already), it does not indicate SEXSLAVE. If that was the case the man or men should get the death penalty for committing adultery (if he is using her as a sexslave, since that means clearly that he is not married to him or them). Should you say that that is not the case then I suggest you look up BLASEMPHY. Cause Allah, according to me will not allow such grotesque behaviour. Give me the verses on your so called allowed raping a woman claim. Thank you

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.30.41.76 (talk) 12:48, 26 December 2010 (UTC)


 * [[Image:P art.png|20px]] This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Humanities reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try  for an article related to the topic you want to know more about.  I hope this helps. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:59, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

User Bdb484 is changing everything to back to his version.
The subject is about the phrase "Happy Holidays" and User Bdb484 is deleting my entries. Someone help please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mysticjay (talk • contribs) 13:52, 26 December 2010 (UTC)


 * The article Holiday greetings is about things people say to other people at certain times of the year. It's not about holidays or festivals themselves.  General information about Thai Pongal or Diwali belongs at the corresponding articles.


 * By the way, you seem to have made some edits while logged in and some edits while logged out. This page may be helpful if you find yourself getting logged out by mistake.


 * Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 14:19, 26 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I've left a note at your talk page about copying text within Wikipedia. Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 14:32, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Login error
I recently acquired a used but heavily refurbished laptop computer that runs on the same wireless internet network as my home computer. Whenever I tried to login, it gave me a strange error I had never seen that appeared in the red box usually reserved for an "incorrect password" statement. What could this have been, and how can it be fixed? Finalius ( Say what? ) 14:18, 26 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Does anything at Help:Logging in solve your problem? If not, post again here with the text of the "strange error". It would also be helpful to know the name and version of the operating system and browser that you're using. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:29, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
 * None of those. It reads: "The login has been cancelled as a precaution against session hijacking. Please hit Back to reload the previous page", even if I log out on my home computer. And I used Internet Explorer, version 8, when I usually use Google Chrome. Finalius  ( Say what? ) 14:41, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm. This search throws up a few examples, the most relevant being this and this, but nothing that looks like an explanation. So I can only suggest you try the usual kinds of remedy, which you've probably already tried: check that cookies are enabled, delete your cookies, restart the browser, reboot the machine, see if Windows Update wants to upgrade the browser... If you are still having trouble, post again here. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:34, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Never mind, I installed Google Chrome and fixed everything. Finalius  ( Say what? ) 01:46, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Filmography
Selected filmography 1952: Limelight 1953: The Man Between 1955: Richard III 1956: Alexander the Great 1957: The Brothers Karamazov 1958: The Buccaneer 1958: Look Back in Anger 1960: Brainwashed 1961: The Chapman Report 1962: The Wonderful World of the Brothers Grimm 1963: The Haunting 1963: Eighty Thousand Suspects 1964: The Outrage 1964: High Infidelity 1965: The Spy Who Came in from the Cold 1968: Charly 1969: The Illustrated Man 1969: Three Into Two Won't Go 1970: A Severed Head 1973: The going up of David Lev 1973: A Doll's House 1976: Islands in the Stream 1980: Hamlet (BBC TV) 1981: Brideshead Revisited 1981: Clash of the Titans 1983: Separate Tables 1984: Ellis Island 1985: Ann and Debbie (TV) 1985: Shadowlands 1987: Sammy and Rosie Get Laid 1987: Queenie 1988: The Lady and the Highwayman 1988: Beryl Markham: A Shadow on the Sun 1989: Crimes and Misdemeanors 1992: It’s Nothing Personal 1994: Remember 1994: A Village Affair 1995: Mighty Aphrodite 1996: Daylight 1997: What the Deaf Man Heard 2000: Yesterday’s Children 2000: Love and Murder: Love and Murder 2002: The Book of Eve 2009: Doctor Who: The End of Time 2010: The King's Speech —Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.115.112.73 (talk) 18:45, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Do you have a question about using Wikipedia? This is not a page to submit content for an article. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:52, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
 * After a bit of research I have added The King's Speech to the article on Clare Bloom. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:09, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Quickie...add reference for an 'orphan'
How to... I want to add a reference to 'rescue therapy'.. it must be very shortcut..i am (will be) in the middle of my studies

So---To partially (dis)orphan this instance only: ?? Comparison of Antiviral Activity of Regimens Containing Nucleos(t)ide (NUC) Pairs in HIV-Infected Patients Initiating REScue Therapy (The NUCREST Study) Comparison of Antiviral Activity of Regimens Containing Nucleos(t)ide (NUC) Pairs in HIV-Infected Patients Initiating REScue Therapy (The NUCREST Study)

thnx...jtMD/Montana (&Wiki-lover)

P.S this should all be very much more transparent for the occasional user particularly since the page asked for help...and then just added to the confusion —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.19.254.176 (talk) 19:40, 26 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Message boxes like those at Rescue therapy have links on some terms to explain more. Being an orphan has nothing to do with references. If you want to deorphan the article then you can learn how to make links to it by clicking the linked term in "Please introduce links to this page". If you want to add a reference instead then see for example Referencing for beginners. The current boxes at Rescue therapy don't ask for references so they don't have links to pages explaining how to make references. The box at Unreferenced asks for references and links to a page about how to make them on the word "cite". PrimeHunter (talk) 00:10, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

2011 World Junior Ice Hockey Championships
Hi. I was currently updating this article, but I don't see anyone updating the latest goal. Someone needs to update the latest goal: Russia 1. I don't have that much experience in updating sports scores, but I need to see an update to familiarize myself. Thanks. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 21:18, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Never mind, I see the update. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 21:19, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Modifying a page without the Edit hyperlink
There is a factual error on the page for Muhammad Iqbal; in the introduction page. He is listed as a Lahori poet, though he was born in Sialkot and should be listed as Sialkoti poet. However, I can't find edit link to edit that page. How can this error be fixed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spervaiz (talk • contribs) 21:24, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Hello there, to edit the article, click here. The link is on top of the article, there is no edit button on the side of introduction sections. Cheers -  [CharlieEchoTango]  23:10, 26 December 2010 (UTC)


 * The infobox to the right of Muhammad Iqbal already says he was born in Sialkot, and the bottom of the article shows Category:People from Sialkot. What to mention in the opening paragraph has been discussed before. You can post a suggestion to Talk:Muhammad Iqbal. He apparently lived much of his adult life in Lahore and is known as Iqbal of Lahore in some countries so calling him Lahori doesn't sound like a factual error to me. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:56, 26 December 2010 (UTC)


 * To edit the introductory section, there is a script that allows you to have a separate edit link for that. Otherwise just add &section=0 to the end of the edit link. ~ A H  1 (TCU) 17:13, 27 December 2010 (UTC)