Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2010 February 15

= February 15 =

My name appears in my article's headline
I have just written my first article in my User space. Having worked on the draft until I'm happy, I have moved it to the main space.

However, the title of the page is: User:SpoolWhippets/Cyril Clowes, and also a small link under From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia says < User:SpoolWhippets.

Is this normal with a new un-reviewed article?

SpoolWhippetsWC (talk) 01:27, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * No, definitely not. Try nominating the article for deletion with the template (but not your subpage copy) and then once it is deleted, go to create the article, and just copy and paste all of the text and markup.  -RadicalOne •Contact Me•Chase My Tail 01:31, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Hang on here it was a bot move...lets look at this further...Buzzzsherman (talk) 01:37, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * update move has been undone ...looking at article now!! -->Cyril Clowes]..Buzzzsherman (talk) 01:39, 15 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Little curious why you seem to be using two usernames and .  It was confusing finding out what happened.  Astronaut (talk) 16:53, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Front
I want to know how to format front type. I want to change the style of the front type of the quote in my userpage to Monotype Corsiva. How can I do it? --Defender of torch (talk) 01:45, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * You would use HTML, as wikicode has no specialized way of doing so (but there may be a template). I believe the code would be something like, though this may be deprecated. That would produce Text goes here . Cheers,  Intelligent  sium  01:51, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you. It does work, however it is not working within Template:Cquote, this is why I removed the template. --Defender of torch (talk) 02:11, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * It doesn't work because of the equal sign in the markup. You'd have to use:, which would produce:

quote text
 * — Bility (talk) 16:14, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Redirect my user page
Hello, I put a link on my user page that brings me to my other user page, but the one in Spanish. Example: Eduardofoxx13 (talk) 02:15, 15 February 2010 (UTC).
 * Cross-wiki redirects are disallowed. You have to use a soft redirect if you don't plan to put anything on your userpage or an interwiki link if there is already something on your page. An example of the latter case is on my userpage (an interwiki link to de:Benutzer:Xenon54). Xenon54 / talk / 02:22, 15 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you, I am going to do the link --Eduardofoxx13 (talk) 02:34, 15 February 2010 (UTC).

You should see this website. It is about the Turkish Wikipedia's (Vikipedi) abuse of rights.
You should see this website. It is about the Turkish Wikipedia's (Vikipedi) abuse of rights.

http://www.wikipediayacevap.org/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.103.13.22 (talk) 05:47, 15 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, Turkish Wikipedia is a seperate and co-equal website to English Wikipedia. We have no more control over their content than they have over ours.  You may want to report something like this over at Meta: however.  -- Jayron  32  05:52, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Looking at the website, I am immediately suspicious. I picked out a few key features. An image of Richard Dawkins, a book by Harun Yahya, and repeated use of "Allah" does not bode well for the neutrality nor intent of the site.  -RadicalOne •Contact Me•Chase My Tail 06:18, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I am assuming "abuse of rights" is referring to copyvio issues? How did you deduce POV from a foreign language site? Just curious... Supertouch (talk) 14:57, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * How? As I mentioned above. Citing Yahya (a rather prolific and vocal Muslim creationist), advertising his site, an image of Dawkins, and the repeated use of "Allah", when mixed with Turkey's past history of Islamic fundamentalism (and hate of Dawkins' work), does few favors for the site.  -RadicalOne •Contact Me•Chase My Tail 17:26, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Remove Edit Summary from History?
Not that it really bothers me that much, but is there anyway to remove an edit summary from a page? I ask because my userpage was recently vandalized and the edit summary is.. well, I'm not leaping in joy over it. Not a major issue, but if I can remove it without making any SysOp jump through hoops to do so, that would be nice. If not, than oh well. (For the record, I did search the Archive before posting here.) -Avic enna sis @ 07:26, 15 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Done – I deleted your user page then undeleted it without the offending edit. Not too difficulty, fortunately! BencherliteTalk 12:20, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you sir, you are a scholar and a gentleman. -Avic enna sis @ 17:39, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

CRR and Interest rates
How is CRR and interest rates related —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.161.17.164 (talk) 07:49, 15 February 2010 (UTC)


 * [[Image:P art.png|20px]] This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Humanities reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try  for an article related to the topic you want to know more about.  I hope this helps.  --Mysdaao talk 12:58, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Providing a translation for an existing page
I have received from a Japanese friend a Japanese translation of the page Global Crop Diversity Trust, which I have contributed to in the past. How can I add this information so that it becomes available in Japanese? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crop.Trust (talk • contribs) 08:58, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * At the Global Crop Diversity Trust page there is an interlanguage link to it's Japanese version on the left side of the page. Supertouch (talk)

Getting contents from wiki dynamically to my webpage.
I have my website. I need to take a paragraph of content from wikipedia and put in my webpage. For example I need info of author "Casey Jones" from wiki to add the first paragraph to my webpage I want the content to change as and when wiki also changes the content. It should be dynamic and not just static like copy and pasting and I want the content to be displayed on my web page and change everytime when wiki's content also changes for author "Casey Jones" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deepti.deeps (talk • contribs) 10:00, 15 February 2010 (UTC)


 * If you want to do remote loading, which is have your website load the page from Wikipedia every time someone loads the page on your website, that is not allowed because it generates load on Wikimedia servers. To mirror a Wikipedia page, you have to get a database download or just export the article you want by calling Special:Export/Casey Jones on a regular basis, and create the HTML for your website from that.  See Mirrors and forks for why you can't do remote loading.  Also, if you reuse Wikipedia content on your website, you have to provide credit to Wikipedia with a URL to the original page and provide the correct licenses as explained at Reusing Wikipedia content.  --Mysdaao talk 13:14, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia Technicality Help
I have been editiing and uploading new articles on Wikipedia since a long time ago, but i don't know how to go about the use of its programming languages, page layouts and the rest as i have no special programming skill. I would like to know,where can i get a live-help that will direct about how stuffs work on here? I already tried the Wikipedia channel on Freenode.net but for some unknown reasons, i couldn't get connected. How do i go about uploading media files into articles and the rest?Olusegun (talk) 10:57, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, this isn't really programming, most of what you need to know can be learned in an hour or so. The Mediawiki software which wikipedia runs on does most the layout for us, and we just use punctuation flags to tell it what to do.
 * To answer your question, there is not really any live-help as Wikipedia is run by volunteers. Your best bet is to try to get IRC working and talk to people there.  Otherwise, feel free to keep asking questions here and we'll try to help.  You might also read WP:HOW and some of its sub-articles, if you haven't already.  -- Kraftlos  (Talk | Contrib) 11:45, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Check out the Wikipedia Cheatsheet for basic Wikitext. Jeffrey Mall (talk • contribs) - 13:58, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Could you help me with some tables?
Could you help me with some table in the article Education in Germany (Subsection: ELEMENT-study Multiple Regression Analysis and ELEMENT-longterm-study of the development of mathematical ability)? There are several tables that went wrong. "Variable" and "Education of parents" is supposed to be included in the table and not written above it. I tried to do it as it was done in the table of the "Bias against working class students" section, but it did not work out.(Do you understand what I mean? This is hard to explain in English.)--Greatgreenwhale (talk) 15:41, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I put them as the titles of the first headings. They were in the caption (|+) which made them appear above the tables. — Bility (talk) 16:18, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much :) -- Greatgreenwhale (talk) 16:41, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

What to do about a malicious editor?
The Corporatism page has been commandeered by a couple of unprofessional editors who persist with ad hominem attacks on the discussion page, unsupported deletions of information that are contrary to their views, and biased suppression of information. Does Wikipedia have established an impartial review committee to investigate and settle this ongoing problem? If so, how do I access it to file a claim? Thank you for any help--Caremerger (talk) 16:27, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Ad hominem attacks, disruptive editing etc can be reported at Administrator's Noticeboard/Incidents. Provide diffs to show the problem, and keep it short.  If however it is primarily a dispute about content, then use one or more steps from Dispute Resolution to help you. Elen of the Roads (talk) 16:37, 15 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I will follow through with that procedure.--Caremerger (talk) 17:10, 15 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Actually, the procedure to follow to address Edit Warring is very daunting, or whether that is even the correct venue is still in question. Way too many rules to read, procedures for me to follow--when really all I want to do is write and respect the differing points submitted by others. The others, however want to write, but not respect my opposed point of view. Why must I be punished by having to learn way too much procedural information, while all these flamers need to do is get banned, then change their handles?


 * This very frustrating, and disheartening lack of usability because of the classifications under Are you in the right place? can do nothing but discredit the overall validity of Wikipedia as an institution, and as a first-reference online information resource.--Caremerger (talk) 17:26, 15 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, that attitude is going to take you far. Look, no-one is going to spoonfeed you.  If people are behaving badly, try WP:ANI.  If you want the input of other editors, try a Request for comment. Elen of the Roads (talk) 17:34, 15 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Caution: User:Caremerger is a party to Sockpuppet investigations/RJII. User:LeadSongDog come howl  18:37, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Figures Elen of the Roads (talk) 19:47, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Since this editor has now been blocked for sockpuppetry, this section should be closed. The Four Deuces (talk) 18:34, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Signature button has stopped working
This is extremely wierd. I noticed about...20 minutes ago...that the signature button no longer does anything when I click it, nor does the four tildas symbol on the insert menu at the bottom of the infobox. I use Firefox 3.5 with Javascript enabled, Modern skin, and have a plain vanilla signature. All the other buttons appear to work, and if I type in four tildas, my signature and editing timestamp appear. Any suggestions appreciated. Elen of the Roads (talk) 16:29, 15 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Checking... Nope no problem here. I signed this using the signature button: -- Jayron  32  16:40, 15 February 2010 (UTC) and the symbol menu at the bottom:  Jayron  32  16:40, 15 February 2010 (UTC).  Not sure what's wrong, but it looks to be on your end.  -- Jayron  32  16:40, 15 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Hmmm. It's the sort of thing you'd fix by unloading and reloading, only I can't think what to unload/reload.... -Elen of the Roads (talk) 16:48, 15 February 2010 (UTC) (who is rapidly finding typing four tildas to be a pain in the ....)


 * Mine's not working either...nope...neither is the Wiki markup link...-ukexpat (talk) 17:02, 15 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I've tried closing and reopening Wikipedia, and shutting down and restarting Firefox, but I can't see how just one piece of javascript can be disabled like this, without some developer poking around in the back room. Elen of the Roads (talk) 17:09, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * They both work for me in monobook and modern skins. You can still see the edit bar and the insert links below are links, not plain text? — Bility (talk) 17:33, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

I can see the edit bar and it all appears to work. All the other notations on the insert links work, and if I hover over the four tildas, it says javascript:insertTags('~',","), and right clicking brings up the element properties Elen of the Roads (talk) 17:47, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The signature shortcuts aren't treated any differently than other ones, so I'd have to guess you have something else coming along afterward that's affecting it. You don't seem to have a custom .js page, but do you have any gadgets installed in your preferences? You might try unloading them one by one if you do, to isolate the problem. If one of the gadget's maintainers has made a change recently, that might explain the phenomenon. — Bility (talk) 18:09, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I haven't added anything to my monobook recently and this problem started only yesterday. So it would seem to be either a Wikipedia coding glitch or the developer of one of the many scripts I have installed in my monobook did something to their script and that's causing the problem. I know how to troubleshoot it, but it's a real PIA. -ukexpat (talk) 18:26, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Let's compare notes - I don't run anything in .js. The only custom css I have is the editpage - copywarn set.  Ah, half a mo.  I use Wiki-ed (although you and I can't be the only folks using that) Elen of the Roads (talk) 19:19, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * It's Wiki-ed. Turn it off and the sig button starts working again, and the insert. Turn it on, and it stops. Elen of the Roads (talk) 19:33, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

UPDATE: Cacycle has fixed. Anyone experiencing this problem, purge your browser cache (Shift+Reload) and it should load the new version. Elen of the Roads (talk) 22:46, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * It hasn't been working for me all day including a minute ago when I tried, but purging fixed it.-- SPhilbrick  T  01:28, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

When I use the discussion page, my signature is totally missing. Before, Wikipedia automatically inserted my Wikipedia ID (or at least, I thought it did). When I try to edit the tildes where it says signature, it won't let me type in anything. How do I identify my contributions by making sure my Wikipedia ID is shown after my post? If there's a section in the Help Desk archives, please let me know the reference and I will read about it. I did a search in both the FAQ and the Help Desk archive, and my search was totally unsuccessful. I couldn't find any information about this problem. Thanks in advance for reading my post and answering my question.

I am Olympic Artist Jesse Raudales and I am trying to create a page
I tried creating a page for myself here because I am Olympic Artist Jesse Raudales but it was deleted? How can I create a page and not have it deleted? Below is a message that I got? I do have a redbubble account but never use it? Do I need to deleted the redbubble account in order to create my page here? Also, I have done several interviews all over the world and my website is www.jesseraudales.com

Please help? Thanks Jesse Raudales

19:38, 11 October 2009 Anthony.bradbury (talk | contribs) deleted "Jesse Raudales" ‎ (G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement of http://www.redbubble.com/people/jesseraudales) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jraudales (talk • contribs)


 * Your problem is that you copied the text on your website into the wikipedia article, but we have no way of knowing that you are entitled to use that text, so it was deleted as a copyright infringement (as it says). In any case, there's no point just creating a copy of that site here.  Your best bet is to get a Wikipedia account (added - I see you've already done that), and state on it (ie on User:Jraudales that you are the real Jesse Raudales.  Then write something very short and factual, but that includes what makes you notable in Wikipedia terms<--do read this.  Use different text to what's on your website, but you can link to your website.  Reference what makes you notable (links to interviews, commentaries on your work etc).  Then leave the rest of the community to finish the article for you. Elen of the Roads (talk) 16:53, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Horrid Henry Takeover addition Query
Should we mention the Horrid Henry CITV takeover that is taking place between the 15th February and the 19th February, I'm asking this because it doesn't seem to be mentioned yet. Paul 23 87  17:31, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Why are you asking this here? Discuss it on the article talkpage (the place you posted the link to). Elen of the Roads (talk) 17:48, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Could someone answer my question at as no-one seems to have replied yet. Paul  23 87  18:31, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * You can mention whatever you want if it pertains to the article and you have a verifiable and notable source. — Bility (talk) 18:49, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

How to move a critical entry on a page to go under the article's "Criticism" heading.
The last 2 critical of 3 paragraphs under "Stance on religion" for:  Raymond Kurzweil should be placed under the next heading:  "Criticism." Perhaps as the first item. The last, quoted paragraph, quote #59 is by a critic, but it gives the appearance of quoting Kurzweil, so I consider it also misleading. Filenel123 (talk) 19:00, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * You're free to make any changes you want to the article. Just be bold and follow the guidelines. — Bility (talk) 19:18, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Taiwan magazines
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Taiwan_magazines

This link is to Taiwan Magazines for "W"...there is already another page called "Category: Taiwan Magazines, to which this particular magazine should be added so that all Taiwan Magazines will be listed on one page. Thanks. Just a suggestion. Chris Z. Springfield Linguistics Project.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.231.87.250 (talk) 22:48, 15 February 2010 (UTC)


 * [[Image:Crystal128-fonts.svg|20px]] Please use a descriptive title in future questions. I have added one above.


 * I'm not sure what you are saying. Category:Taiwan magazines exists because one article - White Fungus Magazine - links to it; but the category itself is a redlink, because nobody has created any text on the category page. --ColinFine (talk) 23:51, 15 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Category:Taiwanese magazines is a populated category so I have edited White Fungus Magazine accordingly and moved it to White Fungus (magazine). – ukexpat (talk) 01:41, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Sysop Eligibility
Could someone look at my edits and also my account history and give me a report on whether or not you think I'm ready for the mop or not, thought I'd ask here first rather than try another RfA as I didn't want to risk another SNOW/NOTNOW failure.
 * Could you highlight if any, things which need attention and highlight those which aren't a problem.

So it would have been my 5th RfA after 2 Months since I did my last RfA.

ThanksPaul 23 87  21:12, 15 February 2010 (UTC)


 * ... the advice you were given on january 31st still sounds good: see Help_desk/Archives/2010_January_31


 * Sssoul (talk) 23:11, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Seriously, lay off the RfA's. You have 800 edits over a year or so and you've had 4. Don't even think of putting in another one in the near future.
 * I have had one in 5 years and over 9500 edits. The average edit count of confirmed candidates is up around 20,000. You need a lot more experience; one year is not nearly enough.
 * If you can make it to the summer of 2011 without having another RfA, then try again. Remember adminship is not a trophy and should not be your "ultimate goal". Focus on article building and gaining experience for the moment. Xenon54 / talk / 23:46, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree, I can't see this happening any time soon. You've been given a lot of good advice by people in your RFAs and editor reviews, so I can only suggest you follow that. You don't seem to have a full understanding of what it means to be a sysop, and chasing it as a goal like this really puts people off. People like to see that you have some commitment to the project and are here to help build an encyclopedia. It doesn't matter if you're not a strong article writer, there are lots of other things you can do to help. I don't want to sound totally negative, because I'm sure you can become a real asset to the project and maybe an administrator one day, but you seem to be looking for the fast track to adminship, and it's just not going to happen. Regards, -- Beloved Freak  13:51, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Featured list
I recently created a list, list of fever causes, and I am wondering how close this list is to becoming a featured list. The list in question is long, but I would assume that quality of the list comes before length of the list. Please take a look at the list (the link is here) and see how close you think it is to becoming featured. Thank you. Immunize (talk) 23:55, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * See WP:FL?, hopefully that will answer your question. Supertouch (talk) 00:19, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
 * It has some way to go, but most noticeably it lacks a descriptive lead section, which is now required for a list. If you want suggestions for improving the article, you could go for a peer review. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 00:48, 16 February 2010 (UTC)