Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2010 February 21

= February 21 =

Creating an information chart
How do you create the information chart that is usually at the top of a lot of pages? Evrestsebretawhtoot (talk) 02:26, 21 February 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Evrestsebretawhtoot (talk • contribs) 02:25, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Are you talking about infoboxes? Do you have an example? — Bility (talk) 02:28, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Evrestsebretawhtoot (talk) 02:31, 21 February 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Evrestsebretawhtoot (talk • contribs) 02:29, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

I'll use a template from the link, thanks! Evrestsebretawhtoot (talk) 02:31, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

French Culture broken link
I am old and tired and just couldn't figure out who to talk to about the fact that the link for

"Hofstede's Framework for Assessing Culture"

In the French Culture wiki page does not seem to go to the proper place. It goes to a page with a lot of Peyton names and versions, which just didn't seem useful.

Regards

C R Krieger

If anyone cares, —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.233.7.192 (talk) 02:44, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Fixed, thanks. -- Neil N   talk to me  03:01, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * [[Image:AROBAZE.png|20px]] Please do not include contact details in your questions. We are unable to provide answers by any off-wiki medium and this page is highly visible across the internet.  The details have been removed, but if you wish for them to be permanently removed from the page history, email [mailto:oversight-l@lists.wikimedia.org this address]. --  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 08:41, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Minor namespace-related problem
In the article Edward Luttwak, the book title " The Logic of War and Peace" is linked. Instead of being a redlink as it should be, this links to Wikimedia's "Strategy" namespace. Does anyone know how to fix this?Prezbo (talk) 04:55, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I have removed the colon from the internal link. Because the link began with "strategy:", it was automatically turned into a interwiki link to Wikimedia Strategic Planning.  Please read Naming conventions (technical restrictions) for more details on this.  The displayed text of the link is still the same, but now it's a red link.  --Mysdaao talk 07:08, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks.Prezbo (talk) 07:19, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! --Mysdaao talk 15:28, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Infobox Templates
I just checked out this page Category:Infobox templates. I see nothing specific about real infoboxes. What am I missing? I also checked out this page Help:Infobox (this may be useful later). I have seen infoboxes on pages for:  Animals classes of animals orders of animals families of animals genera of animals  Political systems countries regions of England and regions of Italy states counties towns cities villages <li> and specifically, nearly all pages of places within the state of New York </ol> </ol> I am not asking how to make an infobox. I know very little about what they are. I have seen hundreds of them. But I have no idea from where the general stuff actually comes. Can someone tell me where I would find the templates such as one on animals and one on political systems? Are there different templates for different categories of animals and/or different levels of government? NewYorkeruser (talk) 05:15, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm confused: are you asking about the information in userboxes, or about the coding for producing infoboxes? Nyttend (talk) 06:05, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Neither, I think. I am asking about infoboxes, specifically where the templates for those on animals and political systems can be found (and NOT just those found on specific pages). I want to see what these infoboxes look like without the specific information. It might be related to coding. I do not know what that is here. Is there a single page that can show me these types of infoboxes? The reason I ask is that I looked for infobox, then list of infoboxes. I saw something about certain places in England, but nothing else such as in the above list. Okay, I may have figured it out. (may be not) I took a closer look at the Geography and place names category on the page at the first link in this help section. Then, I found Countries, opened it. I found United States. Here is a page Template:Infobox U.S. county with what appears to be a blank template such as for what I was asking. It includes the parameters, but no specific information. Just blanks. Is this a template that can be used on any county page of the United States, with ONLY the details to be added? (Remember, I am not asking how to put in the details; only for directions to the right places to find templates.) Please let me know if I am on the right track, or guide me to the correct one. NewYorkeruser (talk) 06:33, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, you're on the right track. Template:Infobox U.S. county shows the code that can be used on any county page of the United States.  The infobox is used by copying the code to an article and then filling in the parameters.  All the infoboxes are in Category:Infobox templates or its subcategories.  For animals, look in Category:Biology infobox templates or Category:Animal infobox templates.  For political systems, look in Category:Politics and government infobox templates.  For general information on infoboxes, you might want to read Help:Infobox.  --Mysdaao talk 06:57, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! But this is not what I want. I visit the page Template:Infobox animal and I find a template for what appears to be specific individual animals of different breeds and species. I am looking for something else. Spiders and insects make up major groups of animals. Their classification is clearly shown in the infobox for the various species and such of insects and spiders. Category:Biology infobox templates is clearly misleading as it has nothing to do with biology. It has to do with individual animals, breeds, and such. Where is there a template for the infobox for the scientific classification of animals? For instance, these types of pages have class, order, family, etc. in the infobox. They mention nothing about birth, death, tricks, awards, etc. in the infobox. Were you confused when I asked about animals? I clearly listed classification types of information. Where is the template for this information? NewYorkeruser (talk) 07:59, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * To see what articles or other templates use a given template, click "What links here" in the toolbox when you are viewing the template page. For example:
 * Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Infobox U.S. county
 * See Help:What links here. For everything there is to know about templates, read all the pages linked from WP:EIW. In addition to infoboxes, you may also be seeing navigation box templates. Templates are a powerful feature of Wikipedia, but that power comes with a price (in terms of learning how to code them). Template coding is similar in complexity to writing computer programs with a scripting language - but without a debugger! Fortunately, some Wikipedia users specialize in template coding, and often you can find the template you need. If you need one you can't find, you could ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Templates for help. You can also join WikiProject New York to find other editors who share your interests. --Teratornis (talk) 07:11, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Two specific examples: insects and spiders: <li>Spiders: <li>Fossil range: 319–0 Ma, Late Carboniferous to Recent. <li>Scientific classification, Kingdom: Animalia, Phylum: Arthropoda, Subphylum: Chelicerata, (unranked): Arachnomorpha, Class: Arachnida, Order: Araneae, Suborders, Mesothelae, Mygalomorphae, Araneomorphae, See table of families, Diversity, 109 families, c.40,000 species </ol> <li>Insects: <li>Fossil range: 396–0 Ma, Early Devonian (but see text) – Recent <li>Scientific classification, Kingdom: Animalia, Phylum: Arthropoda, Subphylum: Mandibulata, Superclass: Hexapoda, Class: Insecta </ol> </ol> I am interested in the classification of animals. (always have been) The map or picture that goes with the fossil range is also interesting. What template(s) contain(s) this type of information, minus the specifics? NewYorkeruser (talk) 08:13, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The easiest way of finding this is to examine a page which already bears the infobox in question. So, for example, if you go to the page Canis there is an infobox upper right; note that it contains words like "Chordata", "Carnivora", "Canidae" and so on. Click the "edit this page" tab, and you will see:

{{Taxobox
 * name = Canis
 * fossil_range =Miocene (9.0 Ma) to recent
 * image = Canis lupus laying in grass.jpg
 * image_width = 200px
 * image_caption = Gray Wolf, Canis lupus
 * regnum = Animalia
 * phylum = Chordata
 * classis = Mammalia
 * ordo = Carnivora
 * familia = Canidae
 * subfamilia = Caninae
 * genus = Canis
 * genus_authority = Linnaeus, 1758
 * subdivision_ranks = Species
 * subdivision =


 * and some more stuff. Look for the words you noticed earlier (Chordata, Carnivora, Canidae etc.), then go back from there to find where the template starts. In this case it's the line
 * The bare infobox will therefore be found at Template:Taxobox. -- Red rose64 (talk) 09:36, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * That is exactly what I wanted to find. Thanks! I just visited the pages Bat (redirected from 'Chiroptera) and Muridae. I looked at the top of the edit page for these pages. I saw 'Taxobox' mentioned both times. Am I to assume ALL infoboxes on taxonomical pages have this same format? The page said there are more than 135 parameters. I noticed this near the bottom of the page: 'Complete blank template'. That sounds like what I desire to know. I need to familiarize myself with the template, the parameters, and editing infoboxes. (that is a lot of work!). NewYorkeruser (talk) 10:34, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Mustelidae, Coelenterata, Odonata, Dendroica, Cypriniformes, monotreme, chimaera, Tasmanian Devil, John Dory, skink, Edaphosaurus, and ichthyosaur are all pages that have infoboxes that say 'Taxobox'. If you can confirm that all infoboxes of this type will say 'taxobox' then I am set. Later, I will check out the various infoboxes on all of the various linked animal pages here some time soon. I will look at the different parameters used on the pages and see what information is put into each one. One last query: why are some of the parameters in English and some in Latin? NewYorkeruser (talk) 10:48, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I might be wrong, but I believe that {{tlx|Taxobox}} was the original infobox which inspired all the others (as diverse as {{tlx|Infobox Closed London station}} and {{tlx|Infobox NCAA Athlete}}), and that pretty much all of the plant/animal/protozoa/etc. articles will bear a {{tlx|Taxobox}}. That aside, I think we're drifting into the realm of specifics, where an expert might give the best opinions. I suggest WikiProject Tree of life as a good place to start. -- Red rose64 (talk) 11:02, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! That is enough for me. I am satisfied that the Template:Taxobox page has all that I need, and visiting specific taxonomical pages (only animals) will help. I will take a look at the 'Complete blank template', plus the taxoboxes on all of the above animal pages, probably even others not mentioned here. (edited only to show my name here) NewYorkeruser (talk) 15:50, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! That is enough for me. I am satisfied that the Template:Taxobox page has all that I need, and visiting specific taxonomical pages (only animals) will help. I will take a look at the 'Complete blank template', plus the taxoboxes on all of the above animal pages, probably even others not mentioned here. (edited only to show my name here) NewYorkeruser (talk) 15:50, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

The videogame reception chart has a problem
I just noticed in the video game articles like UmJammer Lammy and Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Justice for All that the MobyGames score is missing from the videogame reception chart even though it was still here in the edit box. I want to fix the reception chart in order to make the MobyGames score appear, but I don't know how to do it. Please help me! --Angeldeb82 (talk) 05:21, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * MobyGames was removed from Template:VG reviews. See Template talk:VG reviews and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games.  --Mysdaao talk 06:43, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Jimmy Cliff, Reggae singer
I didn't add this but I wish you all would. It's merely an FYI (for your information). Jimmy Cliff performed at Carnegie Hall in NYC in 1975, we all saw him, we had 3 boxseats for all 25 of us, but Carnegie Hall was packed that night. It was the first time Jimmy performed in the USA, I do believe. Reading your article, I couldn't believe he and I are the exact.same.age. We were into Jimmy before we got into Bob Marley.

So nice to read he is going to be honored this year, 2010!!

Thanks, Wikipedia. Your website I love and always go to it, and for the past 15 years that I have been online.

Peace!!

Sincerely,

Ellen Martin Sunny Isles, Florida

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.144.246.141 (talk) 06:57, 21 February 2010 (UTC)


 * This is a help desk. If you want to create an article without opening an account, maybe WP:Articles for Creation will be a better place for you.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 08:05, 21 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your contribution. Wikipedia accepts only information which is published in reliable sources. Personal recollections are not admissible because first, on the internet nobody can tell whether you are who you say you are, and secondly, because nobody can verify the information except by contacting you. Therefore the information you have given cannot go into Wikipedia unless somebody can find a reliable source which gives the same information. (Please don't take any of this personally: it's the only way we can make the encyclopaedia reliable). --ColinFine (talk) 10:19, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * [[Image:AROBAZE.png|20px]] Please do not include contact details in your questions. We are unable to provide answers by any off-wiki medium and this page is highly visible across the internet.  The details have been removed, but if you want them to be permanently removed from the page history, please email [mailto:oversight-l@lists.wikimedia.org oversight-l@lists.wikimedia.org].

Reverting vandalism - please help!
Recently, I rollbacked a few edits by an IP 219.74.91.178 in Stamford Raffles. After reverting, I noticed that 'Raffles' had been changed to Raffleeeeeeeee. So I looked through the history and reverted all edits by another vandal, Oranos1. I was surprised that the two vandalised and un-vandalised so much in such a short period, so I think they might be socks. Then, I figured out that in one of the 291.74 edits, there was an apparently good faith change along with a few obviously bad faith ones in one single edit. I restored the good faith change. Should I report Oranos1 for being a sock?  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 08:04, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * No opinion on the reporting (I would wait and see if they start up again) but if an editor makes a series of vandalism edits I would look very very carefully at any supposed good edits. In this case, the statement was unsourced and I couldn't find any sources so I removed it. -- Neil N  <sup style="font-family:Calibri;"> talk to me  08:16, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 08:33, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Citations not leaving
I added a bunch of citations to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Levin_High_School_for_Media_and_Communications aparently its not an automatic system. Every sentence in that has a reference or citation and its still asking me to add more. Whats up? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oldarney (talk • contribs) 08:08, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Nobody will remove the unref tag for you. Do it yourself!  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 08:15, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I just removed the tag.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 08:18, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Reverting an image edit
A recent edition on an image file is irrevelant and I want to use the older version. But unlike article editions file editions don't have an undo option. How can I revert the edition. (I tried to reach the creator of the original file, but so far with no luck) Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 11:09, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Look at the section called "File history". If the image is on the English Wikipedia, there will be a link  that says "revert" next to each older version when you are logged in.  If the image is on Wikimedia Commons, the "revert" link(s) will be on the image's Commons page when you are logged in.  Click the link next to the version you want to revert to.  Go to Help:Reverting to read more.  --Mysdaao talk 15:40, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Chrome messing up unicode, any solution
See this old edit of mine. Is there a solution to this? I don't want to give up using Chrome for Wikipedia, but I don't want to be an unintentional vandal either. Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 11:30, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * What version of Chrome, what OS, and were you in the Wikipedia Beta per chance ? —Th e DJ (talk • contribs) 12:10, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Every version I've used I think, I'm up to date. Windows 7, and I wasn't in the Beta. I can't view the unicode in Chrome, I can in Firefox. Dougweller (talk) 14:48, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I've found this discussion about Chrome, unicode and Wikipedia Dougweller (talk) 18:01, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

APA Citation of Wikipedia
I noticed in the description of citing a Wikipedia source that two dates are required: (1)The submission date and (2)The retrieved data. My question is where in the Wikipedia article can I find the 'submission' date? Is the same as the last revision date at the very bottom of the article? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rjdjoyce (talk • contribs) 12:51, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The submission date is the date of the last change to the version you are citing. If you are citing the current version of an article, then the date at the bottom of the article is the one you should use.  --Mysdaao talk 15:45, 21 February 2010 (UTC)


 * (e/c) It is indeed the last revision date if you are citing the current version. I think I may be able to save you some time. Every article on Wikipedia has a link on the page entitled "Cite this page". It is in the toolbox links, on the left hand side of the page, below the search field (in monobook skin). If you click on that it, it lists pre-formatted citation text in many different citation styles, including APA. See also Citing Wikipedia. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:48, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

I've uploaded my photo to the wrong place
I made a new user profile and attempted to embed my photo into my profile. All I wanted was to end up with one page containing a few words and a photo of myself but I now have a profile page and a photo page. Can someone please tell me how to move my photo back to my profile page? Thank you.--Elizabeth (talk) 13:02, 21 February 2010 (UTC)


 * It appears this is the only edit to wikipedia you have ever made! where you not logged in before? Can you please give us a link to your profile page and if possible the name of the image you uploaded. Thank you. MilborneOne (talk) 13:20, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Inter State compact
Does Massachusetts accept the parole administration of released prisoners from other states, especially Utah? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.61.50.68 (talk) 13:36, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Symbol_move_vote.svg Have you tried the section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia.  For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: [ click here] . I hope this helps.  TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  15:32, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Add Publisher
Hello;

The following article needs attention:

Twilight (series) In the "Publisher" Section.

"Atom" Publishers need to be added.

How do I do this when the article is Semi-Protected (Silver Padlock)

Thanks for Reading Snaps-burdock-mouse (talk) 14:23, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * You can make a suggestion on the article's talk page (which is unlikely to be protected); it is accessed either by clicking the "discussion" tab at the top of the article, or by going here: Talk:Twilight (series) --14:29, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

no: tag What is it?
I noticed this bracketed tag was added to the end of the page St. John's Water Dog. no:St. John's water dog

There's nothing wrong with it, I just wondered what the no: tag means and what it does. I looked through the FAQ and archives, but couldn't find that info. Thanks. Jo JoKing (talk) 15:02, 21 February 2010 (UTC)


 * It's an Interwiki link to the corresponding article in the Norwegian Wikipedia. (And the link you added to your question didn't show up because it was an Interwiki link: I've added a colon at the front to make it appear) --ColinFine (talk) 15:04, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi, Didn't mean to add a link, but thanks. Appeciate the quick answer. I guess no doesn't always mean no. ;-) Jo JoKing (talk) 15:17, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

emailing
how do i email an article to another person. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Goldenchild9701 (talk • contribs) 16:13, 21 February 2010 (UTC)


 * You can send the URL of the page you want through an e-mail. Near the top of your browser there should be an address bar that contains the URL of the page you are looking at.  Copy that address and paste it an e-mail that you send to your friend, who can use that URL in their browser to load the same page, as long as he or she has Internet access.  You can also save it as a PDF.  There will be a link on the left side of every Wikipedia page that says "Download as PDF" which allows you to save that page as a PDF file, which you can then send.  --Mysdaao talk 16:25, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Opinion about a possible article
I thought of an idea for a new article. I am not sure it qualifies. Wikipedia is not a "how to" guide, I know. I haven't thought exactly what the article will be. My first thought is that there are a lot of internet articles about motor oil changes on the internet.

One possible article is called "Car oil changes". Possible subjects include the purpose of oil changes*, the controversial in oil change intervals, long versus short*, some different ways oil is changed in a car such as Topsider*, oil recycling*. (*references exists) Such article is different from the existing article on "motor oil" which the title is not specific to cars and is more about chemical composition.

What do you think? Too much of a "how to" or not? Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 16:58, 21 February 2010 (UTC)


 * From your description, it sounds as if it might make an encyclopaedic article, as long as there really are references for it all. But beware of original research. --ColinFine (talk) 21:44, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Sorting names in Wikipedia tables
Let's say that I am creating a sortable Wikipedia table that incorporates the names of several people. Let's further say that, as an example, one of the names in the list to be sorted is Abraham Lincoln. If I want his entry to be sorted as an "L" for his last name — as opposed to an "A" for his first name — what would I need to do? If I enter a Wikipedia link that says "Lincoln, Abraham" ... will that work? Will that sort him as an "L" or as an "A"? In other words ... does the Wikipedia computer (or the server or the HTML or whatever) use the name before the vertical bar or the name after the vertical bar (in the Wikipedia link), to determine the proper sorting? Also, is there some other (easier) Wikipedia code that effectuates this type of sorting by last name instead of by first name? Thank you. (64.252.68.102 (talk) 17:52, 21 February 2010 (UTC))
 * The template is what you would use for this. For example:
 * displays as:
 * Abraham Lincoln
 * and sorts as if it were:
 * Lincoln, Abraham
 * The first parameter is the first name, or names; the second is the surname; the third is the title of an article dealing with that person; the fourth is the sort key. To give a different example which (hopefully) will give better context for the last two parameters:
 * displays as:
 * George Clinton
 * and sorts as if it were:
 * Clinton, George
 * More info on the template page. -- Red rose64 (talk) 18:14, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I didn't mention that the third parameter is optional, and if omitted, it will generate a wikilnk from the first two parameters. Similarly, the last parameter is optional, and if omitted will also be generated from the first two. It's only required if the person's name includes letters with accents or other marks. For example:
 * Here, the third parameter is blank, but the fourth shows the nearest English-language letters, so displays as:
 * Nadia Comăneci
 * -- Red rose64 (talk) 18:28, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Here, the third parameter is blank, but the fourth shows the nearest English-language letters, so displays as:
 * Nadia Comăneci
 * -- Red rose64 (talk) 18:28, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Hello. Thanks for your help above. I have a further question ... if I may. What are the advantages / disadvantages between these two sorting methods? (Method #1) I decide to use the function that you just informed me of ... versus ... (Method #2) I just use a link that says Lincoln, Abraham ? Does either method have any advantages or disadvantages or other factors to consider? The only thing that comes to mind right now is that -- by using Method #1 -- the name "Abraham Lincoln" will appear in the "L" section of the sorted list even though the first letter in the display is the "A" of "Abraham". In Method #2, the person's name will appear to be "backwards" (opposite of Wikipedia article naming conventions) ... as in "Lincoln, Abraham" ... but the first letter displayed will be "L" and it will appear in the "L" section of the sorted list. Am I correct? Are there any other advantages, disadvantages, or considerations for me to -- um, consider -- before I start doing a relatively long and laborious list? Thanks. (64.252.68.102 (talk) 20:14, 21 February 2010 (UTC))
 * The difference between the two approaches is that somebody has written and tested the template to get it right, whereas your approach relies on your getting it right. Redrose didn't say that it would appear as "Lincoln, Abraham" anywhere, just that it would sort using this (and appear under L). --ColinFine (talk) 21:48, 21 February 2010 (UTC)


 * ColinFine ... huh? I don't understand your answer at all.  Can you please re-phrase it?  Thanks.   (64.252.68.102 (talk) 23:07, 21 February 2010 (UTC))


 * Further to the above, I have worked up some examples in which you are welcome to view and to try out. -- Red rose64 (talk) 23:07, 21 February 2010 (UTC)


 * See Help:Sorting. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 23:58, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks to everyone for the above help and input. It was indeed helpful, and I appreciate the feedback. Thank you. (64.252.68.102 (talk) 14:55, 22 February 2010 (UTC))

Automatic redirecting to zh.m.wikipedia.org for mobile phones (iPhone)
Hello,

I am a user of zh.m.wikipedia.org, a lot of times I came to wikipedia pages from Google's search results. For English content, there is a auto redirection to en.m.wikipedia.org if I am using a mobile device. This feature, however, is not enabled for Chinese content. I am not sure if I should post this on zh.wikipedia.org help forums but I figured this could also be needed for other non-English pages.

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xu2008 (talk • contribs) 19:42, 21 February 2010 (UTC)


 * You need to request on the Chinese Wikipedia, that they install the Mobile redirector script in their MediaWiki:Common.js, same as we have here. —Th e DJ (talk • contribs) 23:56, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

unable to create an account
"Thanks for your interest in the English Wikipedia. We are unable to create your account because it is to similar to multiple other accounts. You have noted that you have had problems with the sign in. I think the user you are trying to use (the only one with contributions) is ILVI. Please remember that these are case sensitive. That above username is all capitals. If the password is the trouble, you can click the "email new password" button at the login screen. Hope this helps"

I got this message from you - and would like to stress, that I am not trying to use somebody else's account! I registered as ilvi and was not informed that this name was already being used. Furthermore, your images can hardly be deciphered. I suppose I will stop trying to register, it seems to be too complicated. That's really a pity! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.155.73.172 (talk) 20:31, 21 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Hmm. There's two things you can do, in this case, I guess. One is go to this interface and submit a request with a comment about not being able to log in. The other is to make a new account (to check if it's been taken, go to Special:ListUsers and type your desired name in). Hope this helps, SS  ✞(Kay) 20:53, 21 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Note that usernames are case-sensitive (and the first letter must be upper case), so 'ilvi' would not be an acceptable Username. 'Ilvi' would, and there is an account called 'Ilvi berberi', created last month. ('ILVI' was created in 2003).
 * I'm not sure, but I think the Registration process is just trying to be helpful, and perhaps making guesses that are wrong. And the image has to be difficult to decipher: that's the whole point of a captcha, otherwise automated systems would be able to decipher them and they wouldn't provide any protection any more.


 * Edit- I didn't know you had already tried the interface I linked above. Do a search for your username in Special:ListUsers, if it doesn't exist, your computer didn't actually make the account. Either way, I'd suggest you just make a new one or edit unlogged in. SS  ✞(Kay) 04:24, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
 * As a member of the ACC team, I saw this request pop up. One of the other team members dealt with it, and saw that it was similar to another registered name (ILVI) which is an active account (it last edited in October - "active" means within the last year). When a similar name is requested, the Account Creation Tool flags this. We then look at the similar names and make a decision on whether the request should be granted. If the similar account has not edited in a year, we would generally make the new account. The message above is not a standard one, but a custom message written by the ACC team member who dealt with the request, as they felt that you might be the owner of ILVI and had just forgotten your password.
 * My advice would be to request a new name - if Ilvi is your first name, then you might want to add a surname or a number. If it is a nickname, you might want to choose another name. I hope you can get it sorted.
 * If you want to, leave a message on my talk page with some of suggestions of name(s) which you would like, and I can see what I can create for you! Just click on the "talk" part of my signature. --  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 09:03, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Potential image upload issue question
I'm not sure if there is a copyright desk or some sort of image den that would be a better place to ask, but I'm sure you can redirect me if there is.

I'd like to include the famous toy train logo in Toys for Tots, but I'm not sure about the copyright status. The program is run both under United States Marine Corps Reserve and a the 501 charity Marine Toys for Tots Foundation, and I'm not sure which one owns the copyright. If the former were true, it would be public domain as a work of the US Governemnt, but if the latter, I'd have to do a fair use form. The history reference states "1948, Walt Disney designed the Toys for Tots logo, which we use today."... but which entity does the "we" refer to? Thanks in advance for any help.  bahamut0013  <sup style="color:#000;margin-left:-1px">words <sub style="color:#000;margin-left:-16px">deeds 20:55, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * This might help ? Mlpearc (talk) 21:33, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry or here ? Mlpearc (talk) 21:38, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The reason I asked here, instead of at Commons, is specifically because I know that Commons can't take it if it is indeed non-free. I've sent an email and snail mail in the past, and haven't recieved a reply. Is there any other reasonable action that I'm not thinking of, or should I just assume it is indeed copywritten and do a fair use?  bahamut0013  <sup style="color:#000;margin-left:-1px">words <sub style="color:#000;margin-left:-16px">deeds 02:45, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Have you tried asking at Media Copyright Questions? The folks there are more expert in copyright issues than the average Help Desk volunteer. --  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 09:08, 22 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Logos of companies and organisations generally qualify for use under the non-free use criteria, see WP:LOGO and the logo fur template. If you click on Wikipedia's "upload file" link in tool box on the left hand side of the screen, then click the "logo" link, the logo upload form will be loaded. Fill in the compulsory details, and select the "logo" license from the drop down box and you should be good to go. Let me know if you need help. – ukexpat (talk) 15:35, 22 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I am on a roll today, so I will do it. – ukexpat (talk) 15:42, 22 February 2010 (UTC)


 * ✅ and I added an ibox too. – ukexpat (talk) 15:57, 22 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok, thanks. I was hoping to prove that it was PD rather than FU, but the intent is complete.  bahamut0013  <sup style="color:#000;margin-left:-1px">words <sub style="color:#000;margin-left:-16px">deeds 22:56, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Browning model 1910 FN .380 Cal. Want to get owners manual.
Where can I get a manual for Browning Model 1910 FN .380 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.168.18.74 (talk) 23:22, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our roughly three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  23:31, 21 February 2010 (UTC)