Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2010 January 13

= January 13 =

Make page public
Hello Support,

I created a page for my company Hula Networks yesterday 01/11/2010 and when I type Hula Networks nothing shows up.

My account information is Hulascott

Thanks, Scott —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hulascott (talk • contribs) 00:21, 13 January 2010 (UTC)


 * The page is currently located at your userpage, which is User:Hulascott, and so it is not part of the article space. It would need to be moved to the article space to be an article.  HOWEVER, let me strongly recommend that you do not do that.  Wikipedia has a policy against editing with a conflict of interest; when you edit at Wikipedia you agree to avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your businesses, and other articles about subjects in which you have a vested interest.  If your company actually meets Wikipedia's inclusion criteria for having an article about it, then someone who has nothing to do with your company will some day create an article about it.  -- Jayron  32  00:46, 13 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Clearly spam and tagged for speedy deletion accordingly. – ukexpat (talk) 01:38, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Deiser Archives
How often does this forum archive?174.3.101.61 (talk) 00:52, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * If you're talking about this page, then every post is visible for four days before being archived. A post left on the 1st January (UTC) will be archived on the 5th January. If you are talking about an external website, this is a random knowledge question that should be directed to the reference desk, as this page only deals with questions directly relating to Wikipedia. Xenon54 / talk / 01:04, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I've seen this page go for 7 days.174.3.101.61 (talk) 03:37, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The archiving 'bot sometimes goes for a long walk or something! It's done automatically, but if the 'bot which does it isn't running for some reason, it may not be done for a few days. --  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 08:17, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Sending messages to other users
Hi,  I'm new, and  I'm just overwhelmed. I would like to send a little thank you message to someone who changed my user name for me, but I don't know how to send messages to anyone. I went to his discussion page but didn't see a way to leave a message, although there were many messages to him from other users. How did they get there? I'm trying to learn everything, and probably the answer to my question is ridiculously simple, yet I can't seem to find the answer anywhere. Thank you for helping me. And I don't know how you can find me if all I do is type CoderCat (talk) 01:24, 13 January 2010 (UTC) at the end of my post. But anyway, I'm doing it. CoderCat (talk) 01:24, 13 January 2010 (UTC) Ok, I just previewed this question and I see that you can tell who I am. Thanks again, CoderCat (talk) 01:24, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The easiest way to post a message on a discussion page is to click the "new section" tab on the top of the page. There's a lot of information about how to use Wikipedia, so I understand it can be overwhelming.  When you have time, I suggest you go through and read Help:Talk page and Talk page guidelines for details on how talk pages work.  --Mysdaao talk 01:35, 13 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I see you correctly sign your posts and have now thanked the user on his discussion page so it seems resolved. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:13, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Displaying incorrectly
Hey, I can't get Wikipedia to display correctly in Firefox 3 or IE 6. Every other site works correctly in both browsers. I'm thinking it may be a javascript problem or something. It's difficult to describe the problem, it's like the formatting is off. For example, the search box that is usually on the left is way down on the bottom. I've tried Ctrl+F5 to bypass the cache and I've deleted my cookies, but the problem continues. Any suggestions would be great. Thanks. 174.52.130.218 (talk) 01:54, 13 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I haven't seen it but it's a known current problem in Wikipedia with people working on it. It's discussed at Village pump (technical)/Archive 120 PrimeHunter (talk) 02:02, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

password reset not working
my computer crashed and now i can't get the password reset feature to work. it says it's sending to my email address but no password reset is received. i don't want to lose saved info. how can i get login fixed —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.112.161.177 (talk) 02:29, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Have you checked your spam folder?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:10, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Are you sure that you are looking at the correct e-mail address - is there a possibility that you have changed e-mail addresses from when you signed up? Are you positive that you put an e-mail address on my preferences when you created your account? If you tell us your user name, we can confirm whether e-mail is set up for it (but that's as far as we can go, I'm afraid). --  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 08:20, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

not in spam folder,  user name id DrofMusic

Nice standard wiki blockquote?
Is there any visually appealing way to create nice blockquote?

For example, something like

Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth

Which would indent the text left and right, make it italic, create a shaded background, and start with a large left double quote and end with a large right double quote.

If there is such a mechanism, it should be documented in the various pages that instruct people how to edit pages.

If there is no such mechanism, how would I request that it be created? David spector (talk) 03:40, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Not sure exactly what you're looking for but generically there's "text", and templates like, and many others. See Category:Quotation templates.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:08, 13 January 2010 (UTC)


 * The formatting you wish is extraneous. See wp:quotations.174.3.101.61 (talk) 05:33, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Mobile Wikipedia totally offline? 404 errors on any entry
Is anyone else in the world able to use Mobile Wikipedia today? I've tried on three different iPhones coming from a Google search and when redirected to en.m.wikipedia, ANY entry gives me a 404 Not Found error, unless it's only me this is a pretty catastrophic problem, and it's odd how nobody is reporting it, or is it just iPhones? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.5.99.72 (talk) 05:32, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

It's not just you. I'm in Texas, and the problem seems to have been going on for at least a few hours.67.64.119.62 (talk) 08:31, 13 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm using Firefox from a PC and have been having problems with all Wikipedia pages for 24 hours, there's either a server problem or something to do with the ISP – however, I have no idea. Jared Preston (talk) 09:43, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * You could check the Wikimedia Technical Blog. They have various pages with logs of server problems and so on. You might find a notice about some problem that manifests itself for you. --Teratornis (talk) 07:03, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Article Edit
Sorry if this is the wrong place, but I am not sure what it comes under.

A few days ago, I made a Guest edit of a page. Somebody had put incorrect information in, and some information I was not sure about, I changed the information that was incorrect, leaving the other bit due to my unsurity.

A few days later, I had been thinking about this article and with checking information, found that it was all incorrect, on this part of the Article. I also read on an additional website (doing research) that people had laughed at, which confirmed it was wrong.

Anyways, I signed up for an account, as I wish to add some more information to some Articles. The Article I had edited as a Guest, had now been completely cleared of both mine, and the other persons information. Since it was incorrect I did not mind. I decided to add some more to the Article, as it was very thin. I added some information, refrenced it, added that the Edit a few days ago was incorrect, just incase people thought it was true, and put another web link.

I come back today and see it has been deleted again. Which is a bit annoying, as I took a fair bit of time finding factual information, avoiding all possible copyright problems and such. My question is, how do other people decide what is relevant information and what isn't? I know this is a communal website done by lots of people, but the information I put in was all correct, added more to the article, and allowed easier reading without having to go to other websites to search and was interesting. I did not simply re-word another article.

So, is there any point in re-adding the information, and having it deleted again? Or shall I not bother. If the answer is the second one, then is there anypoint in adding any information whatsoever to any article? As even with refrencing and links, it seems that some people just don't like it, and remove it.

I couldn't find any information on this, and if I missed it, I am sorry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Troublehalf (talk • contribs) 06:08, 13 January 2010 (UTC)


 * What article are you discussing? If you point us to the article, we could take a look.  Reverting your changes may have been because some other editor was just a jerk, or perhaps the editor objected to your changes for lack of verifiability or possibly lack of WP:Notability ... there are many other possibilities.  Comet Tuttle (talk) 07:50, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi, Troublehalf. I see the article you are talking about is Lacina Traoré. You added information in this edit. It was removed as "speculation". Looking at the three sources of information provided: both the Daily Mail and the Daily Telegraph both mention him, it shows that any transfer is indeed speculation (Mail: "Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger is considering a £3.6million move for giant CFR Cluj striker Lacina Traore who has been dubbed 'the new Emmanuel Adebayor'."; Telegraph: "Arsenal have been linked with Ivory Coast striker Lacina Traore... Arsenal reportedly face competition for the player's signature from Lazio, Hamburg, Udinese and CSKA Moscow." (italics mine)); the Guardian show that such a move is not going to happen anytime soon ("The pressure on Arsenal to strengthen their attack has been eased after tests on Nicklas Bendtner's troublesome groin revealed the Dane should be fit to return within two weeks...He suggested he was more likely to bolster his defence, by re-signing the former England centre-half Sol Campbell, than adding a striker.") As such, the information you added was actually correctly removed.
 * On Wikipedia, articles do not contain speculation - they contain information which has happened, not what might happen.
 * Please do keep contributing to Wikipedia - however, if you come across a reference about something that might happen (even with sources like yours had), do not add it! Regards, --  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 08:43, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

I want to cut my enforced Wikibreak
Months ago, I used the Wikibreak enforcer to stop myself from editing wikipedia and concentrate on my studies. I wish to keep editing today, and I tried to edit my monobook.js as an anon, but (guess what) it doesn't work. Can someone try to take away the wikibreak enforcer code from my monobook.js? Thanks. All the best, 113.253.203.191 (talk) 09:33, 13 January 2010 (UTC) (The all the best bit is to prove that this is not a fake, since I've included it in my sig for some time. And to further proof that I'm not bluffing, here it goes: Wuthering Heights VANITY FAIR paradise lost ; David Copperfield MOBY DICK the great gatsby ; Jane Eyre PRIDE AND PREJUDICE les miserables )
 * As far as I am aware, there is no way for anyone else to edit it for you. I would suggest that you turn JavaScript off in your browser, and then you should be able to log in and edit the monobook.js file. --  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 10:15, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * It'll expire in 7 days, if you need the account before that then you could try what Steve has suggested. Alternatively you could edit as an anon until it expires, but you'd have to put a notice on the talk page of your anon account to the effect that its being used by the same person as the account Kayau, in accordance with WP:SOCK. (WP:SOCK doesn't actually make an allowances for if your account is disabled voluntarily, but I doubt anyone would mind, if there is a particular edit that you wanted to make but you're worried about violating WP:SOCK then you could ask here and someone would probably be able to do it for you). Kind regards, SpitfireTally-ho! 10:21, 13 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Admins can edit monobooks, so I'll remove the code for you. Please leave a message on my talk page as soon as you log back in so that I know everything's above board.  If not, I'll reinsert the wikibreak. BencherliteTalk 10:26, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

How can I connect a Dynamo to my bicycle?
How can I connect a Dynamo to my bicycle? Also, can I drive a motor (using the power of this dynamo) to rotate the wheel of my bicycle? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moezmotani (talk • contribs) 10:11, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Symbol move vote.svg Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. --  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 10:13, 13 January 2010 (UTC)


 * But you might find bottle dynamo and perpetual motion machine of use. --ColinFine (talk) 20:39, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

My contribution has been deleted w/o any log or reason
Hi,

The article that i created for our school has been deleted. It is regarding our school's history. Teachers and our principal are expected see it on Wikipedia but it was like Wikipedia burst our bubble w/o any notice because the admin who deleted it did not even leave a note regarding the reason of deletion.

Pls. state the reason why?

Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dormboyph (talk • contribs) 10:25, 13 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Your article should not have been deleted speedily, so I have undeleted it and moved it to Commonwealth Elementary School, Quezon City. However, elementary schools only rarely deserve articles on Wikipedia, and you'll need to show that the school has been extensively discussed in third-party publications like newspapers, not just school newsletters or similar.  I'll leave you a message on your talk page as well. BencherliteTalk 10:34, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Want to donate information from my website
Dear Sir, I am a local boy from Andaman and Nicobar Islands, India, I own a website www.andamanbirdwatching.com in which I want to add information about all the birds found in Andaman and Nicobar Islands further I am planning to add information about all the butterflies of Andaman and Nicobar Islands the information and photographs will be my own. I want to donate all the information and photographs to wikipedia, my personal interest will be only the name of my website appearing in the reference list which should be acceptable because my website will be listing all the informations about birdwatching in Andaman and Nicobar Islands. Do you think this is acceptable, further what should I do to prove that this website is mine and no copyright voilation has happened.

Regards Murli —Preceding unsigned comment added by Murliv (talk • contribs) 11:24, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Our page on donating copyrighted materials should answer your questions. The basic principles are that you will need to make the material available under the CC-BY-SA and GFDL licenses - either by noting this directly on your website, or through Wikipedia's permissions system. Licensing your material in either of those ways will establish that you are the owner of the material. Keep in mind as well that you cannot donate exclusively to Wikipedia - all material published here is licensed for reuse, with attribution, elsewhere. Have a look at Donating_copyrighted_materials and if you still have questions, please come back and ask. Gonzonoir (talk) 14:19, 13 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Your photos will be very welcome, but it is likely that any other information on your site will be original research, and so not accepted in Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 20:42, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

New page needs disambiguation.
Hallo, after writing the page Bill Wall (William Dale Wall) I noticed that it links with a basketball coach with the same name, listed at the page National Collegiate Basketball Hall of Fame. It looks like this coach had a page on wikipedia, since all other people listed (a lot!) have blue wikilinks. But where is his original page?? Thank you, --Gabodon (talk) 14:53, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The same Bill Wall (basketball) appears in the page 2008–09 NCAA Division I men's basketball season. --Gabodon (talk) 14:59, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The links in National Collegiate Basketball Hall of Fame and 2008–09 NCAA Division I men's basketball season point to Bill Wall. There is no article I can find on Wikipedia for another person named Bill Wall in basketball.  Before you created the article, the links were red links pointing to a non-existant article.  Now they point to a Bill Wall that is not associated with the person in basketball named Bill Wall, and the links should be removed.  --Mysdaao talk 17:32, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Replacing images on foreign wikis
Last night, I tried to replace and incorrectly named image(File:P1010049.JPG) on an "Ido" Wikipeida article on Champaign, Illinois. The image I tried to replaced was of the File:Champaign, Illinois Municipal Building.jpg, and had originally shared it's name with the file above. Now when I tried to add the correct image, I created a redlink that I can't fix. Can somebody else fix this one instead? DanTD (talk) 15:29, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The image in question is located on the English Wikipedia only, if it was uploaded to Wikimedia Commons then you could add it to any other language Wikipedia by using the image syntax as you've tried on io:Champaign, Illinois, see Moving images to the Commons. The only other way to do it is to upload the image directly to the Ido Wikipedia. Nanonic (talk) 15:48, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I've uploaded it to commons for you, it should work now. Nanonic (talk) 15:53, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Name of Article "Javits Wagner O'Day Act"
Please note that the Javits Wagner O'Day Act" is now referred to as The AbilityOne Program and we need Wikipedia to make this change on the site.

The article started by Islandgurl in January 2007 is not accurate anymore and needs to be updated to be listed in Wikipedia as AbilityOne or The AbilityOne Program. The program is managed by 3 bodies: 1. Committee of Purchase 2. NISH and 3. National Industries for the Blind (NIB).

Can you please allow us to update this material so that when it is searched, AbilityOne (not Javits Wagner O'Day) appears in the search area.

Thank you.

Jay Sternberg NISH —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.79.203.136 (talk) 16:00, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The article Javits–Wagner–O'Day Act is about the legislation itself and not the program. AbilityOne Program now exists as redirect to the article on the legislation.  If you wish to write about the program itself, follow the directions at Help:Redirect in order to go to the redirect page, remove the redirect itself, and add article content.  --Mysdaao talk 17:49, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I would also suggest since you indicate that you are connected or employed by NISH, one of the managing bodies of AbilityOne, that you have a potential conflict of interest and I would suggest that you review the policy before editing either AbilityOne of Javits-Wagner-O'Day Act. Tiggerjay (talk) 20:14, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Change the Name of an Article
Good afternoon,

My name is MAJOR Mike Jensik and I am submitting a lot of input for the US Army Corrections Command on Wikipedia.

I inadvertently misnamed an article (Northwest Joint Regional Confinement Facility). This needs to read Northwest Joint Regional Correctional Facility.

Thank you for the help.

Michael.jensik (talk) 17:13, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. See WP:MOVE for details on how to do this yourself once your account is autoconfirmed, should you need to. Gonzonoir (talk) 17:17, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Forgotton user name and password
How do i retrieve both my user name and password as i haven't logged in to wikipedia for quite a few months ? my email is —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.145.145.155 (talk) 17:16, 13 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Try this page. Hope this helps.  Set Sail   For The   Seven Seas   261° 45' 45" NET   17:27, 13 January 2010 (UTC)


 * That doesn't help if the user can't remember the username of the account. If you remember editing any page on Wikipedia, go to that page, look at the page history, and find your edit to determine your username.  If you can't find your username, then there's no way to retrieve it and you'll have to create a new account.  --Mysdaao talk 17:39, 13 January 2010 (UTC)


 * If you have an idea what the username may start with then you can also look for it at Special:ListUsers. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:49, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Where is the page ?
Hi, I'm sure I have probably overlooked something.... but I wonder where the page I created is, I thought I went through the correct procedures & saved the page but when I look for it it isn't there. Is it something that takes time ?? Help and information would be great, Thank you. --Riversdaletom (talk) 17:55, 13 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Once you save the edit, it's saved and goes live. Give me a minute, and I'll see if I can dig it up. What was the name of the article? UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 18:14, 13 January 2010 (UTC)


 * User:Riversdaletom/Kit Barker? – ukexpat (talk) 18:19, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia used as a Classroom Project
Quick, does anyone remember the name of the Wikipedia page that discusses the use of wikipedia for class projects? Search is being less than helpful, and I don't have the link handy. Thanks! UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 18:14, 13 January 2010 (UTC)


 * School and university projects. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 18:16, 13 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Or WP:SUP to save typing! – ukexpat (talk) 18:18, 13 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Perfect - thanks! UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 19:18, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Writing entries for pay?
I'm a freelance writer and editor. A client has proposed that I write Wikipedia entries that the client would like to see posted and is willing to compensate me at my usual rate. The client is a respected international organization, and I have no reason to think that its intentions are anything other than proper--the client wants the entries to be factual and nonbiased and on topics that the client and others would agree are significant (and I would not participate in such an arrangement if otherwise). My question is simply, Does Wikipedia have any rule against payment by third parties for the writing of entries, or does the Wiki community in general frown on such arrangements? I can't find the answer in the FAQs. 98.204.74.83 (talk) 18:41, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The conflict of interest guideline would be a good place to start. &mdash;Akrabbimtalk 18:47, 13 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree, the policy that applies is Conflict of interest. If the client wants to be philanthropic and have worthwhile topics covered, in a similar way to companies sponsoring documentaries on PBS, I think it's OK. But if the articles are closely related to the client or the client's competitors, that would be a problem. --Jc3s5h (talk) 18:49, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Also just to advise you on another common problem which is that once an article is created, that article is not owned by anyone. I understand that your client, as well as yourself, would like to ensure that there is accurate information, you have an already stated conflict of interest in this area. Please take a moment and look over Ownership of Articles. Tiggerjay (talk) 20:36, 13 January 2010 (UTC)


 * It's also probably worth mentioning that Jimbo (Wikipedia's founder/godking) has stated that he'll indef block any paid editors. (As mentioned here, among other places. Of course, if the article created is strictly within policy, detection would be a bit of a problem, but in general, paid-editing tends to get frowned on by a decent number of people. -- B figura  (talk) 20:43, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * That won't be a problem on many other wikis, such as for example Wikicompany. To the original poster, my advice is: go to WikiIndex and find all the wikis that accept the kind of content your client wants you to write. Write it, and post it on all those wikis. Wikipedia is rather stringent among wikis when it comes to conflicts of interest. On many if not most other wikis, the main problem is getting enough people to contribute. Wikipedia is unusual in that we have so many contributors, we can afford to be fussy. You could also go to Wikia and start a completely new wiki all about your client and its interests. --Teratornis (talk) 06:59, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

David Caldwell
Hello Wiki,

I noticed that the index listing for caldwell under the People with the surname Caldwell shows David Caldwell (1725-1824), historical figure, Guilford County, North Carolina. Clicking the link brings you to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Caldwell. There doesn't appear to be an article for the historical figure David Caldwell that I could find. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 171.159.64.10 (talk) 19:04, 13 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I edited the page to fix the description of the footballer, and to redlink David Caldwell (born 1725). – ukexpat (talk) 19:26, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Placing Images within Tables
Help is needed as I am attempting to learn to use wiki language. How does one place images within a table such as the example noted below: Where the word IMAGE appears is where I want to place an image...


 * Lean+ Charter||Information
 * IMAGE||Lean+ is Boeing's one overarching continuous improvement approach
 * IMAGE||Lean+ Roadmap is an online interactive guide that aligns improvement efforts throughout the company
 * IMAGE||Lean+ NavTool helps Boeing people find and use the best tools available

Any help is very much appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.76.64.15 (talk) 19:22, 13 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Here is what I think you're looking for, the following code:




 * Creates the following output:


 * {| class="wikitable" border="1"


 * text
 * [[Image:Information_icon.svg]]
 * text2
 * [[Image:Information_icon.svg]]
 * }
 * [[Image:Information_icon.svg]]
 * }


 * Tiggerjay (talk) 20:10, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

wiki search
Sometimes the search engine seems to be a bit lacking, I am looking for the list of uncited BLP articles and can't find it, can anyone point me in the right direction please. Off2riorob (talk) 21:19, 13 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Category:All unreferenced BLPs or Category:Unreferenced BLPs. Plenty there to keep one busy! – ukexpat (talk) 21:21, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, plenty busy. Thanks ukexpat. Off2riorob (talk) 21:25, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Article added to any "book" renders the resulting ODT document unusable
Hi

I've added the "Palace_of_Westminster" to the book I created and was trying to download in the ODT format, but with this article the resulting ODT file cannot be opened by, say, the Open Office. As soon as the article is removed (before rendering), the rest of the book is fine. No such problem with printing in PDF. Is it a know problem and if yes what is the cause? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carces (talk • contribs) 21:30, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I get the same problem here..The ODT created for Palace_of_Westminster by the book creator won't open in open office 2.4. I'm going to update my open office to 3.1 and try again. Arthena(talk) 23:23, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * It won't open open office 3.1 either. Maybe it should be reported on meta:Book_tool/Feedback as a bug. Arthena(talk) 23:43, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * This is the fragment that is confusing the parser. I shouldn't create such a broken file of course, but the nested ref in the note is clearly breaking the parser (wiki as well btw.). —Th e DJ (talk • contribs) 01:00, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Fixed the wikicode. The page still crashes. Determined that this is due to the nesting of the refs. Reported here —Th e DJ (talk • contribs) 01:11, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Ray Kinasewich
I would like to add additional relavint information regarding the profile you have on Ray Kinasewich. You have listed Ray's hockey carrer but have no mention of his tremendous successes in business. Ray's hockey contacts were instrumental in his success as a respected businessman through out Canada, the USA,the UK and South america. Ray became the sole owner of Stork Diaper Service in 1966,a business dedicated to providing reusable diapers to mothers and various long term care facilities in the Province of Alberta. During the late 60's and early 70's, Ray worked countless hours with Alberta Government health care facilities developing various types of undergarments for the severly handicapped persons. Many of the garments designed then are still in use today for the severely hadicapped people, in Alberta. Stork Diaper Service expanded into providing a total linen and laundry sevice for Nursing Homes as well as other long term care facilities in Alberta, but primarily in the Edmonton Area. Another division of Stork Diaper Service was created as Stork Laundry and Linen service, providing specialy care service to the above named institutions. In the early 1980's Stork expanded their service to include the Metro Toronto Homes for the Aged. Stork entered into a 10 year contract with the city of Toronto to build and operate a laundry and linen service for the Motro Toronto Homes for the aged, which was one of the first public private contracts for laundry and linen servive in Canada. This agreement proved to be a tremendous success for the city of Toronto and the company. Before the contract with the city of Toronto was signed, the name of the company was changed to K-Bro Linen Service. The name was derived because of the three brother, Ray, Gene and Bob Kinasewich as principal owners of the company. K-Bro, became an international corportation with plants in Boston in the USA and in England. K-Bro became one of the most respected names in the Instiutional Laundry and Linen service business in North America and it still is today. The company was sold to an american group in 1996 and it continues to be a major supplier of quality laundry and linen service through out Canada. Taking a small business like Stork Diaper Service from doing 300 thousand dollars a year to a multi million dollar business in 10 years was a great accomplishment. I am greatful to my brothers for their contribution to making K-Bro an International respected company, that continues to provide excellant service to the Healthcare Industry today. Many contacts made from my hockey career was very helpful in establishing a profitable repected business in North America.

A similar business model was designed for the Government of Chile in the late 1990's. But poor ecconomic conditions in South America during that time presented major obsticals for obtaining financing to initiate the project which was canceled. Being envolved in sports was a tremendous asset to me in developing and opperating a successful business, which I am very proud off. I am happy to share my other success in life, besides my hocky career, which I am very proud of as well.

Preented to Wikipedia, by Ray Kinasewich E-mail address  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.11.110.2 (talk) 21:52, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
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 * If you have some reliable, independent sources for this information (read Reliable sources) then you could provide links to those sources or titles of books or journals we could use to improve the article, and leave that info at Talk:Ray Kinasewich. It would be unwise for you to directly edit the article, given your obvious conflict of interest, however leaving suggestions, and ESPECIALLY good independent sources of information, at the article talk page would be most welcome!  -- Jayron  32  22:16, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Special:UncategorizedPages
I really wish that the Special:UncategorizedPages would start actually showing pages in it again. Despite the backlog that exists, it's been showing empty for quite some time now. I enjoy killing time by categorizing pages. Hopefully this is just user error on my part. ;) Buddy23Lee (talk) 22:04, 13 January 2010 (UTC)


 * CAT:UNCAT is your friend. And a confusing tautology too... -- Jayron  32  22:12, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

High School Mascot
I created a mascot name for a new high school. Its a unique name. How do I protect it/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.142.140.105 (talk) 22:50, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm unclear as to what your specifically talking about. I quickly reviewed your edits, and I don't see any page edits. If you're looking to create a new article, you'll need to register as a user, which is quick, easy and free. However, please first see Your First Article and since you said it was regarding something you "created" you cannot create the article yourself as it is a conflict of interest, additionally, since it is regarding a high school mascot it will not likely meet our notability guidelines. It however, may fit on the specific high school page. Tiggerjay (talk) 23:00, 13 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I interpret your question as nothing to do with Wikipedia, but a general question about copyright or trademarks. If I am right, then please note that this page is for asking questions about using Wikipedia. If the pages I have linked to do not help, you might ask your question at the miscellaneous reference desk, but please make it clearer what you are asking. --ColinFine (talk) 00:33, 14 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Note however that Wikipedia does not give legal opinions. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:43, 14 January 2010 (UTC)