Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2010 July 28

= July 28 =

IP's userrights
Can an IP get confirmed, rollback, autoreviewer, administrator or bureaucrat status? --The High Fin Sperm Whale 00:05, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * No. See WP:Why create an account?; it says this specifically somewhere in there, marketing it one of the reasons to get an account.  Also, there would be no way for an admin to add a flag to an IP address. --Floquenbeam (talk) 00:17, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The only way to assign rights to an IP user would be to assign the right to all IP users. Which would be...erm...interesting.  Chzz  ► 04:44, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Really? Gee, I didn't know that. Everyone, let's not make all IPs crats!   Kayau  Voting   IS   evil 04:46, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Main area
how do u get to the main erea to get started making your own page —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.59.179.152 (talk) 01:09, 28 July 2010 (UTC)


 * You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.


 * Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.


 * If you still think an article is appropriate, see Your first article and How to write a great article, and please consider taking a tour through the Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. An Article Wizard is available to walk you through creating an article, but you will need to create an account to use it. if you don't wish to do so, you can submit a proposal for an article at Articles for Creation.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:22, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Please take a look at this screenshot...
File:Odd WP screenshot.PNG. There are two pecularities: UserLogin is combined with Lupin's AVT, and the WV and WN logos are gone.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 03:05, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * All my input here can be is that I think it's something to do with the page you were on previously: User:Lupin/Filter recent changes. -- Jack ?! 03:08, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Just logged out and in while on User:Lupin/Filter recent changes and I got exactly the same. Bug? -- Jack ?! 03:09, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Happened to me too. It must be a bug. For the clarification of others, here's how it happens: One starts on User:Lupin/Filter recent changes while being logged out, then proceeds to click on the "Log in / create account" button straight from there, then logs in. On the "Login successful" page (the page that appears right after one logs in), Lupin's Recent Changes Filter started running, thus combining the two on one page. In the future, Kayau, any information regarding how something out of the ordinary occurred is always helpful if you can provide it. ~Super Hamster  Talk Contribs 03:15, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I alerted Lupin about the bug on User talk:Lupin/Filter recent changes. -- Jack ?! 03:20, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I believe that the report should be filed at User talk:Lupin/Anti-vandal tool instead; that's the place to discuss the actual script (and thus, the place to file any bug reports). ~Super Hamster  Talk Contribs 03:25, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

The WV and WN logos also failed to show up.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 03:22, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm...they showed up fine for me. I'm thinking it's an independent error. Would you mind logging out and back in on a normal page, then do the same thing that produces the error of the two pages merging, and look to see if the icons are gone on any of those instances of logging in? ~Super Hamster  Talk Contribs 03:30, 28 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Ah, yes, you're right, I was stupid. Thanks, SuperHamster and Jack.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 03:48, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem. It's not stupid at all; after all, if you never brought it up, and it indeed was a problem, then a lot of users would be lacking their WV and WN buttons. ~Super Hamster  Talk Contribs 04:33, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Formatting request
Could u please format a new page called Marko Peselj ive tried and triedf but cant seem to get it looking right —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nids2010 (talk • contribs) 07:15, 28 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid the page has been speedily deleted. Please read the note on your talk page; this will help you decide what to do next. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:03, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Comunidades of Goa
I am very upset about wrong and misleading information being carried on your page describing the Comunidades of Goa, India.

Some frivolous statements about the real nature of these heritage institutions and some factually incorrect information is being displayed on the main page uplaoded by Deepak D'Souza.

I am a journalist, a gaunkar of the Comunidade of Serula, and a member of the Association of Components of Comunidades the umbrella organisation that represents the Comunidades and all their members in different forms of participation.

I produced a printed copy of your page before the General Secretary of the ACC Adv Andre Pereira (LLM) who is an authority on the subject and he was very upset.

Merely picking material out of books written by purpotted historians on the subject does not justify the editor's authenticity. We have been engaged in deep research on the topic and found that many things mentioned by some historians are factually incorrect or not applicable to all 223 Comunidades in Goa.

These bodies are village republics having their own laws and governed in general by the Code of Comunidades.

The correct version that I had uplaoded was removed by Deepak D'Souza and replaced with his erronous version.

If I donot receive response from your website I will publish this finding in the media, as also seek legal redressal, as it is damaging our cause and fight for justice.

Sigmund de Souza PUBLISHER-EDITOR, GOA MESENGER Gaunkar, Comunidade de Serula. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.95.6.46 (talk) 08:46, 28 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your suggestion. When you believe an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the  link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes—they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills.  New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to).  Kayau  Voting   IS   evil 09:09, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I didn't realise you are User:Sigmunddesouza. For your information, everything on Wikipedia has to be supported by reliable sources. You must state where your information is from, for example, the book you read it in, or a webpage that says so. Therefore, the content was removed. Also, your section headers were in uppercase, which is unnacceptable. You may add the content provided that you include reliable sources that support your claims. You may want to read WP:V, WP:INLINE WP:LEGALTHREAT and WP:RS for more info. Thanks  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 09:14, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * This account has been blocked as a clearcut legal threat. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  13:25, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Racism
This page has been deleted. The deletion and move log for the page are provided below for reference. 22:07, 19 October 2005 RobyWayne (talk | contribs) deleted "Leon Isaac Kennedy" ‎ (CSD: A6-Attack subject; content was: (and the only contributor was '68.62.110.229')) I tried to look up Leop Isaac Kennedy, and it was deleted; for the reason above. Do whats necessary to fix this. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.91.111.252 (talk) 10:04, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I have removed the deletion summary that quoted the attack content.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:18, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion
If there is a new page qbout an event but isn't worth being on wikipedia,what criteria should i put it under?,Gobbleswoggler (talk) 11:00, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * If it is an advertisement for an event, then G11 works or if it is a copy og the event website G12 works, but otherwise there really isn't anything for the speedy deletion of an event. Prod or AFD would be the way to go.   GB fan  talk 11:04, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

There is a variety of criteria, I think you should go check all here. --Extra 999 (Contact me +  contribs) 11:12, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

BAHRAIN COMMUNITY IN PUNE INDIA
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF ANY BAHRAIN NATIONAL STUDENTS ARE IN PUNE AND THEIR CONTACT ADDRESS AS I AM A NEW STUDENT IN PUNE.THANKS —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.246.164.98 (talk) 11:36, 28 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. TN X Man  11:45, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

The "Laszlo Garai" case
I would ask a favour: let me understand whether the English Wikipedia is or is not interested in getting information also from non-English (e.g. Hungarian) sources. I mean, of course, reliable, trustworthy sources (such as, e.g., the Hungarian Academy of Sciences. If your answer to my question will be negative, I shall by no means insist on writing for the English Wikipedia further articles about Hungarian scholars. The matter is that I have two rather time-consuming pastimes: I am the research-manager of a large EU university department and I am writing a rather sizeable book on the scientific work of the outstanding Hungarian psychologist Laszlo Garai. As a matter of fact, this work of mine gave me the idea of presenting some elements of my findings in the English Wikipedia.

But in case you happen to think that these Wikipedia texts of mine has been of any use for your readers I would ask another favour: Please, investigate about the real motive for a serial deletion-destruction JzG has committed with all my texts wherever he found it in the Wikipedia- End if you find (as I concluded to) that s/he has nothing but some mean motivation for it, goive me, please, some safe, secure protection against it. And immediately delete, please, humiliating nonsense, JzG inserted to the starting point of the Garai Laszlo texte. Of course, I keep accepting all intelligible criticisme to my Wikipedia-texts.

Thanks! Szalagloria (talk) 08:47, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia is based on reliable sources. Wikipedia articles (like scientific papers) need to have precise citations of reliable sources such that other editors can verify them. This is especially important with biographies of living persons such as Garai Laszlo; the sources need to be independent of him and his department. If you are writing a book on this topic, you will already know how to give precise bibliographic citations, and this is what you need to do here. Once you have properly footnoted the information about Garai, and as long as your footnotes demonstrate, from independent sources, that his work is notable, there will be no need for the template at the top of the page. Thank you for your comments. My problem has been (and still is) as follows. As you may see, my article about LG has precise citations but whether the sources are "reliable sources such that other editors can verify them", I maysay so, but only in principles: for that verifiability editors in question ought to understand Hungarian. It's no use three volumes of Laszlo Garai having been published by the Academic Press, two monographs by the editing house of two bigest Hungarian University Press and so on for five other volumes, they are published in Hungarian. Itz is why I have been driven to despair when I wrote the above cry for help. Szalagloria (talk) 06:08, 15 June 2010 (UTC)


 * You need to focus on giving true, precise citations. For example: you cite a book which you call "Personality dynamics and social existence" and you say that the publisher is "Academic Press". This seems to me completely wrong. The book's title is, I think, "Személyiségdinamika és társadalmi lét". You need to give that title (and then, if you like, an English translation afterwards). Also, the publisher is "Akadémiai Kiadó". This is a famous academic publisher in Budapest. You should not try to translate the name: it is not the same as "Academic Press", which is a British and US publisher. Also, you have not given the date of publication. What all this means is that you are not giving correct citations, and other editors find it difficult to verify your statements. Andrew Dalby 12:23, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * It is excellent! So you do understand Hungarian: otherwise you would not have been able to reproduce correctly Hungarian diacritical marks. And if it is so you would be the very third party editor, who could eastablish whether it is or isn't by any chance a mistake to declare the WP-article about the topic as being inappropriate for inclusion and destroy it repeatedly. If it is true, that
 * 1., LG in 1969 in the volume you mentionned("Személyiségdinamika és társadalmi lét") presented his hypothesis of Specifically human basic need and the Akadémiai Kiadó immediately published it;
 * 2., the reputed interdisciplinary review of Hung. Ac. Sc. "Magyar Tudomány" published a rather voluminous paper of the same author re-visiting his hypothesis 40 years later. --Szalagloria (talk) 22:43, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your critical remark about the mode I identified the Hungarian sources I referred to. I ignored the rule you indicate now and took the rule operative in my French acadenic world instead. In the nearest future I shall correct in this Garai-biography fault of mine. But at the same time I shall stop all further activity since I have taken into account that Hungarian sources for scientific discoveries are not considered interesting for the readers of English WP (should it be otherwise the abstracts I specially redacted from the Hungarian texts of LG would not be repeatedly deleted). Still I would have a respectfull petition: delete the starting framed remark about the established or not established notability of LG: this remark is humiliating not me but a respected (everywhere outside the English community of WP editors) scholar (see e.g.http://en.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enwiki/4974859). Szalagloria (talk) 22:43, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think I can help you, because I don't know the subject area of psychology, and I didn't study the reasons why the template was placed there. But you are mistaken in believing that a notability template is humiliating: it is placed on an encyclopedia page, and the page cannot be humiliated. It is not a message to the subject -- he is not involved here at all. It is a plea to all editors (not just you) that the page needs accurate citations from independent sources, showing that the subject or his work is notable.
 * Wikipedians have many mother tongues -- there are many other Hungarian contributors, and there are thousands of biographies of Hungarians. You have had problems not because Laszlo Garai is Hungarian, but because you, personally, are very closely involved in his work. If you want to work on an encyclopedia, it's better to write about topics in which you are not emotionally involved. And rew D alby  09:14, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

I am very-very thankful to you for your unquestionable, manifest benevolence. However I am presenting now the earnest request to delete comptely and definitely my "Laszlo Garai" article. You definitely convinced me not that, as you put it, you could not "help me", but that nobody can from the English community of WP editors. You can't help me, you argue, "because I don't know the subject area of psychology" and it is a difficulty indeed. On the other hand, you console me, that "there are many other Hungarian contributors" and it is true. But we would need 1., Hungarian contributors 2., knowing the subject area of psychology, and 3., on top of everything, who could write English texts. Am I wrong?

Well, here am I, one who might satisfy this triple condition. Thus I specially redacted from the Hungarian texts of LG containing his scientific discoveries English abstracts for the non-Hungarian-speaking readers, including redactors who nothing but from these (mainly Hungarian academic!) sources could judge whether he is or isn't sufficiantly notable. Well, these souces has been completely destroyed and then the article got prefaced by the (I have to insiste on this point) humiliating template: "Please help to establish notability by adding reliable, secondary sources about the topic. If notability cannot be established, the article is likely to be merged, redirected, or deleted."

Isn't it funny?
 * Well, as you may have noticed, I have put a lot of work into this page. It was never your page -- material submitted to Wikipedia is free for others to use and improve -- and, having worked on it, I disagree with you that it should be deleted. I think he is notable by Wikipedia definition. I'm sorry if you won't help me to find a secondary source on his work. I'll just have to try to find one myself. And rew D alby  09:31, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Now, let us take as an exemple the case of "Specifically human basic need". Prof. Garai presented it in 1960's. From 1962 to 1968 he published 6 papers in two journals of the Hungarian Academy of Sciences, in 1968 he defended his kandidate's thesis that was published by the Akadémiai Kiadó [Academic Press]. Meanwhile the hypotheses was published by a French, a Spanish and two Russian scientific journals. The European Journal of Social Psychology published its longest ever book review on the book in question (F. Eros: "'Personality Dynamics and Social Existence', by L. Garai". 1974/3. 369-379.) For these and more details see Need for freedom, Specifically Human Basic Need (SHBN)

On one hand. On the other: it got deleted. Wikipedia is based on reliable sources, isn't it? Well then: I am asking humbly, delete "Laszlo Garai" as well. By no means I allow present my text mutilated. I would do the deletion by myself but my texte used to be linked to so many other textes and I don't know, how to eradicate all of them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Szalagloria  (talk • contribs)  12:04, 28 July 2010
 * Actually you did allow your text to be "mutilated". When you submitted the text you agreed to license it under the CC-BY-SA 3.0 and GFDL, and that license cannot be revoked. As there have been other contributors to this article it cannot be deleted merely at your request.  AJ Cham  12:32, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Szalagloria (or Laszlo Garai), in case you feel the replies on this page have not been helpful, do kindly immediately contact our designated agents Mike Godwin or Sue Gardner.115.117.157.39 (talk) 15:30, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Removing an uploaded picture
Good day! How am I going to remove a picture that I uploaded? (that picture is my own work) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mitchiecutey (talk • contribs) 12:52, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * It's on the Commons, see for information on getting it deleted. Dougweller (talk) 13:04, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Speedy template
What it the template to warn users that their articles have been nominated for speedy deletion. --Extra 999 (Contact me +  contribs) 13:55, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Depends on the circumstances, see Category:CSD warning templates. – ukexpat (talk) 14:02, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. --Extra 999 (Contact me +  contribs) 14:03, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Forgot to mention, if you use Twinkle, it will automatically post a notice template on the creator's talk page. – ukexpat (talk) 14:08, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

What makes a person noteworthy?
Twice recently I created a page and was told it was not noteworthy enough to be published. The article I was trying to create is titled Danny Balin. It has been taken down twice. I don't understand why this is when I see pages like these three published. The information in my article was more impressive than these three. Mark Cohen (cricketer) George Smith (footballer born 1868) Number One (1998 film) Emilio Jaconelli Bhaddon (talk) 15:50, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Kindly read notability criteria for people. It contains the reasons why your article might be deleted in case you do not adhere to the minimum criteria for inclusion.115.117.157.39 (talk) 15:54, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Read WP:BLP and WP:ATHLETE, as well as WP:CITE and WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. The "article" as written contained no citations or references of any kind, just some unsupported assertions about a club pro. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  15:55, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

I've read the criteria. The examples I've given do not meet the criteria as well as my article did. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhaddon (talk • contribs) 16:34, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Read the reason why your argument is flawed. 115.117.157.39 (talk) 16:46, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Your article definitely did not meet the criteria of WP:BLP and WP:CITE. As to the other articles named: apparently you didn't read WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS at all. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  16:48, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Query
I would like to have my son, as a community service write a page out our town's local boy scout troop. I would like to have him write it so other people can learn more about the troop and its history. I think such a page would be very useful to people considering what troop to joins, especially folks with small children. Is this possible? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bradturano (talk • contribs) 16:16, 28 July 2010 (UTC) 16:18, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Make sure your son reads the following pages before writing the page.

115.117.157.39 (talk) 16:20, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Your first article
 * Biographies of living persons
 * How to write a great article
 * The five pillars of Wikipedia
 * Help pages
 * Tutorial


 * On your own website, sure, go right ahead. On Wikipedia, probably not.  We only cover topics here that have already gotten significant coverage in other sources.  Friday (talk) 16:22, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Before writing an article, please read our information on what makes a group notable enough to warrant an article. It is unlikely that your local troop will meet these criteria. However, there are other websites similar to Wikipedia where you post the article. If you have questions, please feel free to repost here. TN X Man  16:23, 28 July 2010 (UTC)


 * See WikiProject Scouting/MOS. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 09:57, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Equation Alignment
When adding equations using the "math" hypertest, is it possible to align all the equations on a page? I would like the equal signs on all the equations to be in one, straight, vertical line. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hh73wiki (talk • contribs) 17:44, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Presumably, you are referring to math hypertext and not hypertest. Depending upon the article and the editorial readability required, you could mix and match tables for such equations. In case you are conversant with direct $$$$ usage, then could also provide you the intended result. Four quick good reads would be Help:Wiki markup (scroll down to the section on 'Mathematical Characters'), WikiProject Mathematics, Help:Displaying a formula, Template:Math.115.117.157.39 (talk) 18:41, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Hebron Church, Cemetery, and Academy
Why is it on the above page,a bit of the text looks like its in a box?,Gobbleswoggler (talk) 17:52, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Because the line starts with a leading space. I've now reformatted it to use proper bullet points. <span style="font-family: sansation, sans-serif;"> AJ Cham  17:59, 28 July 2010 (UTC)


 * See Help:Wiki markup for more details. <span style="font-family: sansation, sans-serif;"> AJ Cham  18:01, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Time Zone Adjustment
Taglman (talk) 18:26, 28 July 2010 (UTC) I'm wondering if someone can explain how I can adjust the timezone on my talk page without having to do it manually, in other words when I sign the post. The time on this, for example, is six hours off. It should be six hours earlier.
 * Adjust your preferences after reading Help:Preferences#Date and time.115.117.157.39 (talk) 18:53, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

User Operat0r reported problems with Shamanism Clinical Trial article
Hi, Some time ago I added a Clinical Trial section to the Shamanism article. This user modified the article on 20th July with: I've left a note on the users talk page asking for clarification - I know that was a few hours ago but was wondering if you could suggest anything other than waiting for a reply. Thanks, Adrian-from-london (talk) 21:52, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * [Needs Correction]
 * [17985808 Not Valid]
 * The edit is . I don't know the background but please don't add descriptions to an article about how to find something by searching an external site. Add a direct url instead like . PrimeHunter (talk) 22:45, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Adrian, correct the clear editing typographical mistakes, engage the other editor in constructive discussions (preferably on the article's talk pages), assume good faith and continue improving the article with reliable, verifiable sources.115.117.149.250 (talk) 04:53, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Reading of Divine Comedy
My name is Iacopo Vettori. In 1984 / 1985 I studied as actor in Vittorio Gassman school. Now I work as a programmer, but I have some activity as poem reader (see at http://www.ilnarratore.com/autori/idx/169/Vettori-Iacopo.html) I realize as amateur a full reading of the Divine Comedy, all for my own, with professional quality, and I have choiced to share it with CC BY-NC-SA 3.0 I am aware that it would be seen as personal promotion, but actually is the free sharing of a valuable work. I read the texts in the link of the triggered filter, and I found my intent is right. If there is something I have to modify before to add the link to my web page in the Divine Comedy voice, I will be glad to do it. Sincerely Iacopo Vettori —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iacopovettori (talk • contribs) 22:13, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * To be honest, I'm not sure what you are asking. However, if you would like to add a piece of work, you may, as long as it is notable. This is generally frowned upon though, as it usually doesn't follow the conflict of interest policy. You may add it to your user page, without and problems. A p 3 rson  ‽   03:02, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Iacopo Vettori, the audio file you wish to upload can be uploaded through the Wikimedia Commons Upload form. Be very sure to read our Copyright Policy and Copyleft Policy before uploading.115.117.149.250 (talk) 04:37, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

The Divine Comedy is composed by 100 poems of 140/150 lines each (about 620MB in MP3 format). The page in the web site just contains the list of the links to each poem in MP3 format and a simple feedback control to rate the visitors' liking, with no advertising. At the end of the page, I added the logo for CC BY-NC-SA 3.0. I can upload it in Wikimedia, but it will require a lot of time because the huge files number and size. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iacopovettori (talk • contribs) 09:17, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Just to clarify: Signore Vettori wants to include a link to his Web site (where the audio files of him reading the Commedia in Italian are located) in the external links section of Divine Comedy. The first time he added the link, I reverted him per WP:ELNO #4. He readded it, and although I then left it alone, another editor has since reverted him. Deor (talk) 14:40, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Sorry if someone thought I was spamming. Now I just open a discussion on the Discussion page of the item. I hope that someone else will listen the readings and judge by himself if they worth the mention in the link section. I added the CC BY-SA 3.0 in my web page footer to make it compliant with Wiki project. Iacopovettori (talk) 14:57, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Electrical appliances
As a layman I would like to know as why all the electrical gadgets run only on A.C. current and why not on D.C. current? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.153.41.115 (talk) 22:33, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
 * They're designed for A.C. current because transmission lines from the generating station to your home work more effectively with A.C. current rather than D.C. current. Adrian-from-london (talk) 22:47, 28 July 2010 (UTC)


 * See also War of Currents.
 * Symbol_move_vote.svg Have you tried the section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia.  For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: [ click here] . I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:49, 28 July 2010 (UTC)