Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2010 July 3

= July 3 =

Article page and redirect page swap
I would like help if possible, please, swapping The Marksmen with Foggy River Boys, which is the current redirect page. As content for this page evolved, it has become clear I should have originally titled the article The Foggy River Boys, which is the better-known name for what turned out to be two groups by that name (it would be great if the article title included "The"). Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, RadioBroadcast (talk) 01:39, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅. Redirects have been swapped.  -- Jayron  32  01:51, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you! RadioBroadcast (talk) 03:57, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Fair-use conundrum
If I uploaded a couple of images over the years to Wikipedia, and they are limited fair-use (one article only), what should I do if I want to display them in my userspace to "brag" about pictures I uploaded? That is, without DashBot deleting them.  2D ℳaestro  Nag / Brag 02:45, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't put them on your page. There is no need to brag about the images anyways. You didn't make them. Anyone could have uploaded it. It's nothing to be proud of.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 02:47, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * If you must, you can link to images without displaying them by placing a colon before the link. For example, File:Embarkation-Weir.PNG.  -- Jayron  32  03:31, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Please remember that the non-nonfree-images-in-userspace rule refers strictly to displaying the images; we have no prohibition against linking to them, whether in the way Jayron said, or by giving a full hyperlink. Nyttend (talk) 22:10, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Search Bug
I normally don't ask my Wiki questions/bug discoveries here, but I thought this is probably something someone will eventually ask here. When I search for certain items, it seems that the search bar brings up strange results. For instance, searching "Doctor Who (" turns the "(" into an "a" (an example here in this segment of a screen cap) and a search for "Doctor Who h" turns the "h" into an ":" (i'm using Doctor Who examples because that's what I was indeed looking for when I discovered this). Is this a known issue? Doc StrangeMailbox Logbook 03:51, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * By the way, I have indeed tested this on another computer just to check if the problem was with my computer and/or keyboard and this bug indeed shows up on that computer when the same search queries (ie "Doctor Who (") are typed into the search bar. Doc StrangeMailbox Logbook 03:56, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I am getting the same bug using the exact terms you used. I don't get it using other terms. Maybe the TARDIS is on the fritz? -- Jayron  32  03:59, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I get the bug with other searches (like, "Star Trek o") or when I search for a single word and a space (like "Star " turns "Starting Pitcher" into "Star ing Pitcher" and "Starbucks" into "Star ucks" and "Life " turns "Life Imprisonment" into "Lifebimprisonment"). In fact, I just noticed this now, but searching for "life" then two spaces turns the searches into "Lifebo+(rest of search result phrase beginning with "Life"), three spaces turns the search to "Lifeboa+(rest of search result phrase beginning with "Life"), eg "Lifeboaimprisonment", and so on until "Life+17 spaces" full reveals "Lifeboat (shipboard)" over the search results. I get the same thing if I search words like "time", "star", "rose" and "royal" and a bunch of spaces or any spaces (even sometimes one). Bizarre! Doc StrangeMailbox Logbook 04:16, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * It does seem to be a bug. I suggest bringing it up at WP:VP/T. --ColinFine (talk) 09:12, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

I can at least add that this seems to be a Vector-skin-specific bug. Someguy1221 (talk) 09:26, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * That happens to me too. Overall, the search function was what made Vector such a pain. so  nia ♫♪ 09:28, 3 July 2010 (UTC)


 * A moral to everyone: Always use monobook! :D  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 09:35, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Privacy
On the Supernanny article, I moved a list of the participants' names to a better location within the article, but now I'm worried that having the participants' names in the article at all is an invasion of their privacy. Even though these people chose to participate in a TV show, I think having their children's names, ages and hometowns in the article for all to read long after the TV show completed it's run, is quite possibly providing too much information. Should the names be removed? And if so, should it be done under WP:Oversight? Astronaut (talk) 05:40, 3 July 2010 (UTC)


 * It doesn't need to be oversighted because the information is public knowledge, readily accesible on the internet (even outside of Wikipedia). However, I'd support removing it all as cruft. A rule I always apply personally regarding including a living persons name is: "Does knowing what this person's name is help the reader understand the subject?" For all of these individuals, who fall under WP:BLP1E, the answer is an emphatic no. However, once again, as their privacy is not being violated any more than they already agreed to when filming a show for national television, it's purely a content decision. The matter has to be decided by consensus and dispute resolution should anyone revert an attempt to remove their names from the article. Someguy1221 (talk) 06:42, 3 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I removed the names as unencyclopedic ("cruft" if you like).  Astronaut (talk) 07:10, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Charles Roth
There is a man named Charles Roth in the list of new thought authors who is not THE new thought author (as he is not listed) he is a United States Senator and should be deleted. I would have done it but I do not know how or have the time to immerse myself in Wikipedia World. This is the first place I could find to place a note for editing awareness. You have created an INSIDERS WORLD not easily shared by the uninitiated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.81.66.164 (talk) 11:54, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Do you mean Charles Roth, the member of the Kansas House of Representatives, is linked from the List of New Thought writers? Sorry, but when two people have the same name, that kind of thing is bound to happen on occasions.  The politicians article should not be deleted, but I have modified the link on the list of writers so instead it will link to Charles Roth (author).  By clicking on the red-link, an autoconfirmed user can create an article about the author.  Be sure to include references from reliable sources and show why this person is notable.  Additional guidance can be found by clicking here.  Astronaut (talk) 12:16, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * A system as big and complex as Wikipedia is bound to appear daunting to many newcomers. Have a look at WP:Introduction. The best place to discuss issues about a particular page (such as List of New Thought writers) would be on its Talk page, which you can get to by picking the tab labelled 'Talk' at the top of the article page. --ColinFine (talk) 15:32, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Talk Page
Can someone make my current talk page an archive page and make me a second talk page? Cheers and all the best to you all,Gobbleswoggler (talk) 12:42, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * See WP:ARCHIVE.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 12:51, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I was baffled by all the options for doing this, but the magic at the top of my talk page seems to get the job done. Just change the user name and wait 24 hours or so for the MiszaBot to kick in. -- John of Reading (talk) 13:26, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Reviewers
Can an administrator answer some request on the page Requests for permissions/Reviewer?13:05, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * There are only three open requests at Requests for permissions/Reviewer, and they are all from the last few hours. I'd expect the admins looking at the requests to be examining the cases carefully and considerately, so it may take a wee while. Remember, it's also a weekend, and a major holiday in the United States, so many admins may simply not be around. If the requests remain outstanding for too long I'll take a look, but for now I don't think there's too much cause for concern. TFOWR 13:33, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Book compiled but download corrupted
I have added 22 pages to the creation of a Wikipedia book. It seemed to compile fine, instruction to download complied with but PDF file download failed as file is supposedly corrupt according to dialog box message. Repeated compilation and download as an OpenDocument Text format met with similar fate.

Repeated same procedures on a different machine and same results ensued. How can this be corrected? A repeat attempt on the second platform returned an "Internal Server Error"

The files compiled are listed in the graphics below:



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Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaymax1175 (talk • contribs)

Huggle
I have installed huggle but when I put in my username and password it says 'huggle is not enabled for your account,check user configuration page. What do I do?,Gobbleswoggler (talk) 17:03, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Add the text  to . If it still doesn't work, you'll have to redownload your version of huggle, as typically that page should be created before you download it (although it may not be a problem). Regards, SpitfireTally-ho! 17:11, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Huggle
can someone do something so I dont have huggle anymore.Gobbleswoggler (talk) 17:31, 3 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Huggle is an external app which is installed on your computer so no-one here can remove it for you. If you don't want it anymore, just uninstall.  AJ  Cham  21:12, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

How do I make this box thing?
How do I make one of the box thingies like at the beginning to the right of this article: The_Plain_Dealer_(newspaper)?

Thanks in advance. Toontown59153 (talk) 17:36, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Have a look at Help:Infobox to start with. You can copy the infobox code from the existing article to get started. TFOWR 18:02, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Yyay! Thanks! I did it! Toontown59153 (talk) 18:28, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Asking Other Editors...
How can I ask other editors to help me make wikipedia pages? Toontown59153 (talk) 17:58, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I mean ask them to help me write new pages. Thanks in advance! Toontown59153 (talk) 17:59, 3 July 2010 (UTC)


 * If the article doesn't exist yet, one way to ask for help would be to post at Articles for creation. If the article already exists but needs improvement, you could try posting at Editor assistance/Requests.
 * I'm afraid I've added some tags to TTC Times. Please read about the Wikipedia policies on reliable sourcing, notability and conflict of interest. -- John of Reading (talk) 22:01, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

How to feed pages such as 'My contributions' to a self-written editor?
Hi, what I'd like to do, for example, is have a little program/macro that can interface with non-editable Wikipedia pages such as 'My contributions' (or, someone else's contributions). Ideally it would read and collect (in memory or as an appendable file) a pageful of data at a time, then virtually click on 'next 100' until the end. I can write code, but I don't know how to interface with Wikipedia, or what language is required. I'm sure this is spelled out somewhere, so if you just point me to the documentation I can figure out what I might be in for. Thank you, CliffC (talk) 18:26, 3 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I suggest you ask at Village pump (technical) if no-one replies here. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:41, 3 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks, will do. --CliffC (talk) 22:03, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Add information
hello i want to put my information to your site and i want you to di rect me how to us —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sharks77 (talk • contribs) 18:50, 3 July 2010 (UTC)


 * [[Image:Symbol move vote.svg|20px]] Please see Your first article. If you'd like help going through the steps below, try the Article Wizard.


 * 1) Ensure that you have an account and you are logged in. If you don't have an account, create one
 * 2) Make sure the subject is notable enough to have their own article
 * 3) Find references
 * 4) Make sure no article on the subject exists under a different title by typing the subject into the search box to the left (←) and clicking 'Search'
 * 5) Type the page name in the search box to the left (←) and click 'Go'
 * 6) Click 'Create this page'
 * 7) Create the article, including all your references, making sure you adhere to the Manual of Style and our article layout guidelines
 * 8) Be aware that Wikipedia deletes thousands of new articles for failing to adhere to our policies and guidelines. New articles by new users are at extra risk of deletion, due to new users' unfamiliarity with our rules. Consider gaining experience by editing existing articles before attempting to create new ones. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:22, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

2010–11 Ipswich Town F.C. season
On the above page,some of the players on that page have been released or have signed for another club. These players are on the 2010-11 page so should i leave these players there or remove them being as they wont be playing this year?,Gobbleswoggler (talk) 20:11, 3 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Do you mean that there are players in the list who can't possibly be playing for Ipswich in the 2010-11 season? Then I suggest you remove them.
 * As an aside, when asking a question like this it's a good idea to include a clickable link: "On the above page ..." -- John of Reading (talk) 21:28, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Naomh Conaill
Hi,

I have been working on a new page for 5 months and finally moved it a few weeks back. One or two others amade slight edits but now the page shows the tag - starting !"This is not a Wikipedia article: It is an individual user's work in progress page, and may be incomplete and/or unreliable.etc."

Why is this - no tags indicating specific issues are on there so I dont know what I have done incorrectly. Help!

Thanks, —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ja.glynn (talk • contribs) 20:11, 3 July 2010 (UTC)


 * According to the page history, the tag was generated by the article wizard when you first created the article in your userspace, and you moved it into the mainspace along with the rest of the text. I've removed the tag for you.  Ka renjc 20:25, 3 July 2010 (UTC)