Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2010 June 23

= June 23 =

Halp?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AlphaOkami/Wolven_ancestry Help?

Question about articles
Is there a Wikipedia page I can talk about improving main articles? Not specifically one article such as its talkpage. I have thoughts about improving a certain subject on Wikipedia. Thanks for any advice, SwisterTwister (talk) 03:53, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Try seeing Village pump. It might be the place you're looking for.  ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪    ―Œ  ♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣  03:59, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * And look in WP:PROJ to find a WikiProject that covers the articles you have in mind. You can discuss the articles on the WikiProject's talk page. For general guidance see Categories, lists, and navigation templates which compares some tools for grouping related articles. A first step in improving a set of related articles on Wikipedia is to understand and document their structure. For example, if several related articles have no navigation template, users who edit some of the articles may not be aware of all the related articles, and this can lead to inconsistencies when different groups of editors edit different groups of articles without realizing what the other groups are doing. WP:MERGE, WP:SPLIT, and WP:SUMMARY tell how to deal with subjects that form hierarchies. --Teratornis (talk) 05:28, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Can't log into account
unable to log in to my account with my email/username & password. I get a message saying "no email address found" but I can't edit my account to include it so I can have my password sent to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.248.201.50 (talk) 06:30, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, but if you have forgotten your password and don't have an email address registered, the account is lost. If you would like to keep editing, simply register a new account, and if you wish to be associated with the original account, simply redirect your old user and user talk pages to your new ones (and make sure to register an email address!). Someguy1221 (talk) 06:45, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Reversing a redirect
There is a page with a long name. A shorter name is redirected to it. (Mut, Mersin → Mut (District), Mersin) I think ıt should be the other way around. (Mut (District) Mersin → Mut, Mersin). I tried to reverse the redirect. But I couldn’t succed in moving Mut (District) Mersin page to Mut, Mersin. Because although I emptied Mut, Mersin, it is not deleted ( only the admins can delete it). What do you suggest ? Thanks. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 08:19, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


 * I think you can move a page over a redirect (i.e. If you leave the redirect in place at Mut, Mersin, you should be able to move the other page). But since you've already blanked it, you can also do db-G6 for an admin to delete it. {&#123; Sonia &#124;ping&#124;enlist}&#125; 08:28, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * ... or hope that a passing admin spots this and moves it for you! ✅ BencherliteTalk 08:34, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

about XML Schema of "pages-articles.xml" dump
hello,

I am looking for a separate XML schema of the XML dump "pages-articles.xml" file. It is mentioned in you Website that the XML schemas are defined at the top of the file. Can you tell if there is a possibility to have such a file?

Thank you.

D.B. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.84.128.133 (talk) 08:33, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


 * P computing.svg This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Computing reference desk. They specialize in answering computer questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try  for an article related to the topic you want to know more about.  I hope this helps.  Kayau  Voting   IS   evil 13:11, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

translation
Is there any English saying for 口同鼻拗? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ciesse 203 (talk • contribs) 09:48, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * P literature.svg This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Language reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try  for an article related to the topic you want to know more about.  I hope this helps. By the way, I checked Xiandai Hanyu Cidian (trad. Chinese version) and it isn't there. Is it a slang term? You should provide the meaning of the phrase if you want to ask there.  Kayau  Voting   IS   evil 10:43, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Photo licensing
Does anyone know which licence to use to allow free use of a photo you have taken? I had tagged two of my photos with the "self|cc-by-sa-3.0|GFDL" - but an editor has just put them up for deletion "per WP:CSD." -- Myosotis Scorpioides  13:06, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Can you specify which image you mean? You've uploaded lots of pics.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 13:10, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


 * The pics the editor wants to delete are: File:Britishlingfisheroct009.jpg and File:Bomba poodlerunning.jpg. I took 'em both, so can't understand the problem. Out of desperation I've just stuck a WTF Public License on them both - which I got off Wikipeda, but not convinced that will help!-- Myosotis Scorpioides  13:14, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I've declined the speedy deletion tags - the images are freely licensed, thus not eligible for a "unused fair-use" CSD tag. TN X Man  13:17, 23 June 2010 (UTC
 * Brill, thanks a lot!-- Myosotis Scorpioides  13:17, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


 * As the licenses comply with Commons licensing requirements, they should be moved to Commons so that they are available to all Wikimedia projects. I have tagged them accordingly. – ukexpat (talk) 19:02, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

How to use image found in Chinese Wikipedia?
Hi, I found this image that would be excellent in an article work of mine. The image however was found in the Chinese Wikipedia, at this link: http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ringbell.JPG. I can't seem to use it here in the English Wikipedia, despite writing the correct syntax. Also, do all images hosted on any language-edition Wikipedia originate from Wikimedia Commons? Something I still don't get. Thanks, AngChenrui (talk) 15:32, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


 * No, because that image from the Chinese Wikipedia is not from Wikimedia Commons. The pics from Commons from be used globally but some images, like this one, can be used locally. This looks pretty good to me so you can propose that to be copied to Commons on the Chinese Wikipedia, so that it can be used here.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 15:36, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the quick reply. How do I propose to get the image copied onto Commons? AngChenrui (talk) 16:02, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


 * The easiest way to do this is to use the CommonsHelper, found here. I see where there are two Chinese interfaces as well. If that does not work, you can copy the image to your hard drive, then upload it to Commons. TN X Man  17:30, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


 * I think I need assistance in doing that. Are there other tools, otherwise I need a walkthrough? Thanks, forgive my ill-knowledge. AngChenrui (talk) 04:24, 24 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Don't forget to contact a zhwiki admin so that (s)he can delete it.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 04:32, 24 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, I found the image here already at File:CHS old.JPG . Problem is its been tagged with the no-permission template, and will be deleted soon. The thing is, I'm not too sure myself if the image was permitted into Wikipedia. AngChenrui (talk) 08:39, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Holy Apostles
Dear Sirs: the Holy apostles Soup Kitchen website was just posted with at least a half dozen reliable secondary sources. We were wondering why there is still a warning post that the site may not meet the notability guidelines, which are saying the page might be deleted if this is not addressed. Could you help us understand why we have not met the notability guidelines? thanks so much.66.114.64.171 (talk) 16:45, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * There's still a warning post as these posts are manually uploaded by our editors who review the article from time to time. Do read our notability guidelines and also add more reliable sources in the meanwhile, as long as you have no conflict of interest. Once any editor reviews your article, the notice would be automatically removed in case it meets our notability guidelines. Cheers.  ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪    ―Œ  ♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣  18:47, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * (ec)Two answers - first, (and unfortunately), when someone posts a message that there is a deficiency in an article, it is not a required practice for that editor to monitor and remove the notice as soon as the deficiency is remedied. The practice is that any other editor looking at the page, and deciding it is now OK, can remove the notice.
 * But second, there are zero references meeting the guidelines for references. See WP:CITE and footnotes for help. I can't do much more at the moment, but when my workday is over, if you haven't figured out how to make references, I'll see if I can help.-- SPhilbrick  T  19:15, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I fixed four or five of the refs and added a couple others. I believe I've added enough references in desired the desired format (although the Quindlen one could be improved) to justify removing the referencing tag. It would be good if those working on the article could fix the remaining ones.-- SPhilbrick  T  23:37, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Subpage
How do I move my article from the subpage in my user profile to go live? —Preceding unsigned comment added by TechWriterNJ (talk • contribs) 17:15, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Look for the star at the top of the page. Just to the right is an arrow. Click on it to see "Move" and "purge" options. You want "move"-- SPhilbrick  T  17:53, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't have such a star on my user subpages. Are you assuming the user is using the new Vector skin? Not everyone is using it. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:13, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * TechWriterNJ, you moved the article, and it got speedily deleted. I'll recommend that as a start, before creating any article, do read our notability guidelines, as well as details on what constitutes reliable sources. Cheers.  ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪    ―Œ  ♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣  18:39, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I assumed anyone who could figure out how to change their skin would know about the move button. That might be a bad assumption, but it would surprise me.-- SPhilbrick  T  19:19, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Blocking Content From Being Edited By Unauthorized Individuals
To Whom It May Concern:

We are interested in creating a page for our firm. However, we have heard that there is a chance that the page could get edited by a competitor, leaving us to continually have to monitor it for accuracy.

Is there a way, once the page is completed to our satisfaction (and approved by Wikipedia) to have it blocked for editing? We understand that we would then need to have it unblocked each time we wanted to make adjustments, which would only be once or twice a year, if that.

I look forward to hearing back from you.

Thank you.

BL 63.138.49.86 (talk) 17:51, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * In short, No. Not only that, but you are discouraged from creating a page for your firm. See WP:COI-- SPhilbrick  T  17:55, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * If someone else does create a page about your firm, which, if it is notable, is highly likely eventually, you are permitted to correct factual errors, but in terms of editing, the preference is that you comment at the article talk page and let other editors make the changes.-- SPhilbrick  T  18:00, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * SPhilbrick is correct. One of Wikipedia's great attractions is that it is an encyclopedia that anyone can edit. This does mean that occasionally there will be problems such as the one you decide, but on the whole we are extremely hesitant to block editing. Furthermore, since Wikipedia is written neutrally, we cannot allow companies to maintain their own articles, as there is an inherent conflict of interest. TN X Man  18:11, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * WP:OWN explains this how this policy works in more detail. You may also find WP:LUC interesting.  Ka renjc 23:09, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

referencing birthdates
Are birthdates in the beginning of articles supposed to be referenced or is that optional? Some people have their birthdates referenced while others don't. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Afm2105 (talk • contribs) 17:59, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * If you mean that the dates are linked, that is an obsolete practice. It used to be the standard to link all dates, but that is no longer done in most cases. Is that what you mean? --Auntof6 (talk) 18:11, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * If there is some controversy about the birth and/or death dates mentioned at the beginning, this can be referenced. However, in most cases, the reference is given in the body of the article, usually in the section entitled "Early Life" or something similar. TN X</b> Man  18:15, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * If you're asking whether we should reference birthdates, yes, they necessarily have to be referenced, all the while. But as Tnxman mentions, I find it cleaner to give the references in the body of the main article (in Early Life, for example), than right there up in the beginning. But nobody's stopping you from doing that either... Cheers.   ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪    <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex"> ♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣  18:31, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

There was a bit of an earthquake just now here in Toronto. Now what?
No, it's not Judgement Day. It's likely the kind of Earthquake most Californians and Japanese would have slept through, but it was noticed by a lot of people at the employment centre I'm posting this in. (Craton rock strong.) I googled "earthquake Ontario June 2010" and got a link to the WP article on Ottawa. Seems they got it too. I doubt it happened 15-20 minutes ago. Now what do I do wiki-wise? Thanks.70.54.181.70 (talk) 18:10, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Nothing. It's not encyclopedic content. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  18:18, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * So what about the mention in the Ottawa article? Could there be a "2010 June Ontario earthquake" article? How about Wikinews?70.54.181.70 (talk) 18:20, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * For reporting current news in the world, see Portal:Current events. For the what Wikipedia is not concept, see WP:NOT.  ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪    <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex"> ♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣  18:21, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for refering to the portal. Still, if something is salient for even a short while, doesn't it deserve a mention, however transitory? If there is a limit, then what is it? If Ottawa and Toronto were shaking and/or feeling the effects for months, then presumably, such would be worth mentions. Indeed, the quake might warrant its own article. Okay, how about a few weeks, or a few days, or even a few hours? Mention it, and when the relevance passes, edit it out?70.54.181.70 (talk) 18:31, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * 2010 Central Canada earthquake -  ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ  <sup style="color:#3AAA3A;">τ <sub style="color:#3AAA3A;">¢  18:35, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * WOW!  :-D  70.54.181.70 (talk) 18:52, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Earthquakes certainly can be encyclopedic content, since they are tracked and reported by professional scientists typically working for respected universities or official government bodies such as the USGS. Scientists, like other academics, have a centuries-long tradition of scholarship that routinely produces the kind of reliable sources Wikipedia relies on for verification. This is in contrast to much of pop culture which isn't subject to the same degree of content filtering. There is a lot of pop culture that hasn't received the scholarly or journalist treatment that would make it reliable (see: WP:UPANDCOMING). Probably the main question about an earthquake's notability would hinge on its magnitude. Trying to list every small earthquake would violate WP:NOT. --Teratornis (talk) 19:28, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Persecution complex
I reported a Wikipedia image for blatent copyright infringement last night (which has since been deleted) - and have since been plagued by complaints about the pictures I have uploaded. (See two of the problems above - since sorted). I now feel as if there is now some sort of witch hunt against me. Weeks, months and years have gone by with me uploading all sorts of images to Wikipedia without (almost anyway) problem. Then.... three problems in less than 24 hours... I smell a Wikipedia rat/conspiracy.(Or else a seriously upset person who is annoyed that I got one of their copyrighted images deleted last night...) Can anyone suggest where I might turn to for help?--<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black"> Myosotis Scorpioides  19:17, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


 * So again you accuse me of being part of a conspiracy (for those interested see the exchange at User talk: Myosotis Scorpioides). For the record and as explained on your talk page, I am not, and I ask that you retract the accusation. But if you insist in pursuing this, try WP:ANI. – ukexpat (talk) 19:44, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Dear UKexpat - this post does not mention you. So how can it accuse you of anything? You are a touch sensitive I think.--<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black"> Myosotis Scorpioides  19:50, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Considering that started talking about a conpiracy on UKexpat's talk page as well as your own in reply to him, I don't see how you can be surprised that someone would take offense at the implication that they are a conspirator... always the victim, I see... TheRealFennShysa (talk) 19:56, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


 * This post doesn't but your recent messages on my and your talk pages accuse me of being part of this conspiracy that you believe exists. – ukexpat (talk) 19:55, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Expat, I took this to your talk page straight away, so that it didn't "get personal" for you. When you mentioned how you stumbled across my rather badly explained upload, I accepted it and apologised. It is YOU who are continuing this and making it something that it not. I am not, however, sure what TheRealFennShysa and his comments has to do with this - perhaps they should apologise for their rather personal remarks.--<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black"> Myosotis Scorpioides  20:04, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't see an apology, you said "I'm sorry if you feel personally slighted - but I'm not sorry for making the point.". That's not an apology for accusing me of being part of this alleged conspiracy. – ukexpat (talk) 20:13, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh Expat... Yup - that's what I said... and then explained things. It is very easy to take a soundbite from a quote and twist it. I am sorry you feel slighted - but I do feel there is a bigger picture here. I'm not going to engage in any further discussion with you however, as I do not believe it would be fruitful. Please feel free to delete each and every picture, article and FA feature I have ever written. Then, at least, you may feel I have apologised enough.--<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:black"> Myosotis Scorpioides  20:20, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Myosotis, like ukexpat mentions, if you're interested, go to ANI, although I'll suggest simply ignore the short term hit due to your images being called up for issues. Simply address the issues that the editor in question has raised. That is a much better method of enjoying the experience of editing than believing in a Wikipedia conspiracy, which anyway would not be the correct way to put forward your issues. Your discussions on content (than on editors) will be easily better heard. Editors here, especially those like Ukexpat, are extremely helpful editors who would be more than pleased to assist you, provided your statements supported logical issues than conjectures. I repeat, we'll be more than eager to help you starting right now. Shoot away.  ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪    <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex"> ♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣  20:35, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Also see the alternative outlets and WikiIndex. A person could go insane by spending all their time on just one particular wiki. Since the English Wikipedia is one of the largest wikis in the world, it has the advantages and disadvantages of a large wiki - in spades. On the positive side, you have thousands if not millions of other users who can potentially help you do what you want to do (for example, by writing zillions of handy templates so you can just use them). On the negative side, you have thousands if not millions of other users who can potentially hinder you. Every wiki has its own mix of pros and cons. Most wikis are small, and therefore not as well-developed as Wikipedia, nor as thoroughly policed. If you try a few other wikis, you will gain perspective. You might decide you like some other wiki better, or you might decide Wikipedia is worth the hassle. --Teratornis (talk) 19:38, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I might add that even within the Wikimedia Foundation family of wikis, there are noticeable differences between projects. Editing on Wikimedia Commons, for example, is different in some ways than editing on the English Wikipedia. --Teratornis (talk) 19:41, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

NOT creating an account & adding onto someone else's post
Is it improper/bad/abhorrent to add something to someone's post without creating an account? There's a question posted on a particular subject that I just want to add below that post the fact that I, too, would like to know the answer to that same question. I thought I could do that by using the Edit feature, without having to create an account, since it's not something I'd probably ever use again. Can I do that? For example, the initial post is something like: "I want to know how they do that." My post would be: "I, too, would like to know how it's done.  Is it just luck??" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.118.181.22 (talk) 19:18, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure, no problem. People do it all the time. Just remember to sign your name like so: ~ Regards, {&#123; Sonia &#124;ping&#124;enlist}&#125; 19:21, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks very much! 98.118.181.22 (talk) 19:57, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Logged me out
Today I was just logged up for some silly reason. Why is this? Velo ciraptor  888  19:25, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Sometimes that's just the way the cookie crumbles. Sorry, bad pun, but it's been a long and trying day... – ukexpat (talk) 19:40, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * When you're logging onto the project, there's a checkbox which you can tick/check in case you wish Wikipedia to keep you logged in. You could perchance try that too.  ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪    <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex"> ♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣  20:39, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


 * If you provide a few more details, we could probably narrow things down a bit. I believe a "session" is typically active for 30 days and then requires you to log in again. Seems kind of pointless to me, but that's the way it is (you'll see that warning immediately under where you logged back in: "Remember me (up to 30 days)" or some such). I've also experienced a strange "log out" kind of thing where I'll appear to be logged out, but when I click on any link, I'm magically logged back in again. Hope that helps. Matt Deres (talk) 00:07, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, based on your contributions, it looks like you've been here for exactly 30 days, meaning you've just experienced the monthly requirement to log back in again - you'll get used to it. Matt Deres (talk) 00:10, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Review log?
With the new Pending Changes feature, is there a log anywhere of accepted edits? In other words, is there a way to get a list of edits a user has reviewed and accepted? Peacock (talk) 20:36, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Might you be alluding to Patrolled revisions?  ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪    <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex"> ♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣  20:48, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually I'm asking about Pending Changes, which is different than Patrolled revisions. There is a log for patrolled revisions (here is mine).  What I'm asking is if there is a comparable log for Pending Changes.  Peacock (talk) 21:07, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Special:Log has a menu item "Pending changes log", but that only lists when the Pending Changes feature is enabled for a page, but not for when a specific edit is reviewed (which is what I'm curious about). Peacock (talk) 21:11, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

User contribution search on specific articles
I asked this with a tag on my talk page, and it was suggested that I ask here.

I want to find a special page that displays a list of user contributions to a specific article.

It exists. It looks just like the normal user contributions page, except for an extra search field to specify the beginning of an article title. I have seen it recently. I am trying to find it again. And it is not Special:Prefixindex.

I know this question has been asked before; I've been looking at the archives. But now it has an answer. The answer exists. I saw it just a few weeks ago. I ran across it by accident and used it. It looked like it was part of Wikipedia, not an external tool, but I'm not sure anymore. The output certainly looked just like the normal user contributions display, except for the addition of that extra field. I'm trying to find it again. It isn't on WP:EIW either, as far as I can tell. ~Amatulić (talk) 22:27, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I had a list of tools I thought were interesting; one I labelled "User's contributions for just a particular article" However, is the link and it isn't encouraging, but it may be what you remember.-- SPhilbrick  T  23:45, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


 * From the page history, select Revision history statistics. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 03:01, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Sphilbrick: Thanks, but what I remember is from a couple of weeks ago. I don't think that dead link is the same unless it died very recently.
 * I added it to my page in March, which doesn't answer the question one way or the other, as I can't tell you the last time I used it, but the one I linked worked in March.-- SPhilbrick  T  11:39, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Gadget850: Revision history statistics is helpful, but not what I was looking for. What I saw was what looked like a Wikipedia special page for user contributions, only with an additional field to search for an article title prefix along with the user name. ~Amatulić (talk) 04:48, 24 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Are you thinking of WikiBlame? – ukexpat (talk) 16:34, 24 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Nope. That isn't it, either. Here's my contributions page: . Imagine that with an extra search field added for article title prefix. That is what I saw a couple weeks ago, and am trying to find again. Unfortunately, I seem to have run across it while viewing a talk page that I didn't edit, so I have no record of which page it would be in my edit history. ~Amatulić (talk) 18:24, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

to know what are the companies which provides free recharge for mobile research panel.
sirs,i am using nokia 5800 phone.i heard that there is a software named smart meter which collects the data from us for smartphone research panel and provides 100 rupees free recharge per month.the website for smartphonemate is www.smartphonemate.com/india.please read faq for more details in that website.like this i want to know what are the companies available which are trying to provide recharges for details collected from our phone through their software by downloading in our phone esspecially in india.please help me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eeeprashanth (talk • contribs) 23:13, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


 * I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. <span style="font-family: orbitron, sans-serif;"> AJ Cham  23:34, 23 June 2010 (UTC)