Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2010 May 6

= May 6 =

Task Force Question
I have started a task force for contributors within Hudson County in New Jersey, I was wondering if there would be a way to generate an assessment table for articles within only Hudson county out of the ones that are in Wikiproject New Jersey. I think this would be better than creating more Wikiproject assessments just for Hudson County and muck up the talk pages/add more data. Does anyone know how to do this? Thank you! - Theornamentalist (talk) 00:41, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I may have figured it out, but how do I access the table for just this content... Theornamentalist (talk) 01:18, 6 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I had a similar problem a while back with the WP:CHERUB assessment table. The solution was to create a sub-category for the task force articles, entitled Category:CHERUB and Henderson's Boys articles by quality, which was then sub-divided into the various assessment criteria. The assessment table is displayed using . If you need more help, I got answers from Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Index.  strdst_grl   (call me Stardust) 15:48, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Can't figure out copyright tag to save article
Hello, today I got a file copyright warning onto my written article. It's for the important main picture, which was added about three weeks ago. The warning claims it will be removed within a few days unless I can add a copyright tag. I don't know how to do this. The picture is taken from a long defunct magazine, the Saturday Evening Post in 1930. (Though a magazine exist today by that name, under a different publisher.) The artist of the small picture has been deceased since 1932, and had no children and has no living heirs. How can I put in a copyright tag which would claim it's in public domain or whatever is needed. I tried to put this information in the description page of the picture (noticeable after one hits the icon to enlarge), but that seems meaningless. I'd appreciate help and someone making the necessary changes. Thanks. Jim Percy (talk) 01:36, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

MORE-UPDATE. Maybe this is the tag I need to add somewhere: ((PD-old-70)) It's for images where the author died more than 70 years ago. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JimPercy (talk • contribs) 02:07, 6 May 2010 (UTC) OPS. Forgot to sign above. Jim Percy (talk) 02:09, 6 May 2010 (UTC) SECOND UPDATE:  I just added the tag PD-old-70, in quotes  I'll see if that works. Jim Percy (talk) 02:45, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The copyright for that picture belongs to the publisher and their successors in trade, not to the artist, since it was a work for hire. The exemption does not apply. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  03:30, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

REPLY. Fisk Tires has not existed since they were bought out by US Rubber in 1940. (70 years ago.) Jim Percy (talk) 03:45, 6 May 2010 (UTC) UPDATE REPLY, I'd like to try saving this important picture. Perhaps the tag should be PD-Pre1964, in quotes. Jim Percy (talk) 04:25, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * When a company buys out another company, an important component of what they buy is the intellectual property, including copyrights, trademarks, etc. The intellectual property of Fisk became the intellectual property of U.S. Rubber, etc., on down through the chains of purchase. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  13:18, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, but I was hoping for help on saving the image, not to get its speedy deletion. I've seen the below message used, in order to allow pictures (which would seemingly include mine from the old 1930 magazine): "This image is of a magazine cover, and the copyright for it is most likely held by either the publisher of the magazine or the individual contributors who worked on the cover depicted. It is believed that the use of low-resolution images of magazine covers: 1.to illustrate the publication of the issue of the magazine in question. 2.with the publication name either visible on the image itself or written in the image description above,on the English-language Wikipedia, hosted on servers in the United States by the non-profit Wikimedia Foundation, qualifies as fair use under United States copyright law."

Mine was a scaled down version and necessary for ID purpose, which was stated by myself in the now gone description of the picture. It can also fall under "fair use." Jim Percy (talk) 13:47, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

my edits don't appear
I have edited several articles I found on wikipedia - mostly I have been adding references. I just went back to all of them and found that they were all deleted. Why were they deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Galleryrx (talk • contribs) 05:19, 6 May 2010 (UTC)


 * On several articles, you appear to be adding a reference to a book that has not been published yet. Therefore, you appear to be spamming pages on the surface, trying to advertise this yet-to-be published book. Furthermore, the fact that it has not been published yet makes it ineligible to posted on Wikipedia at this time. Wikipedia relies solely on reliable, already-published sources. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (talk) 05:27, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Monobook js
Hi everyone! I've already asked Neutrality this question, but they haven't responded. So, here it is: ''hey, I saw you write scripts? so I assume you are also good with monobook (whatever its called). I kinda new here, and because I use an VERY old version of Netscape, I cannot view my preferences. I've already tried everything they told me at the help page, but it doesn't work. What I'm asking you to help me with is to help me create a signature without needing to put it into preferences (not "create" the signature for me, but allow me to sign with ~ and have it come up). Thanks so much!''

If you don't know how to do it, please find someone who is good with monobook. Thanks! Purlot (talk) 05:32, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * As far as I am aware, the only way to change your signature is in your preferences at Special:Preferences. If you cannot view your preferences, then you basically have three choices: update your browser (although I'm assuming that isn't an option, as otherwise you would already have done it); go online on another computer (a friend's, a library's) and then log in on that and change your signature in preferences; forget about changing your signature. Obviously, the second one is probably the most viable way of doing this. When you use ~, your signature is automatically added using the information in your preferences (or the default if that is blank), and there is no way that I am aware of in which anything else can be done through your Monobook.js --  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 08:30, 6 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Did you try all the skin links I posted at New contributors' help page? PrimeHunter (talk) 11:48, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think there's a way to do what you want. ~ is a character of it's own, with a meaning and everything. Riffraffselbow (talk) 04:57, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Converting a svg-file to html/css
I've received an advice to convert File:Blood values sorted by mass and molar concentration.svg into a pure html/css page so that it is easily searchable within a web browser. Does anybody know how to do that? Mikael Häggström (talk) 05:44, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I not sure how this works, but I found a conversion tool here. -- Kraftlos  (Talk | Contrib) 11:14, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I tried to run the picture through it, but unfortunately it only seems to extract the text from the image. Another converter would be required. Mikael Häggström (talk) 15:55, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Editing mr brainwash page
Hi. I work for the artist mr brainwash who has asked me to put a page up on your site. I'm confused about how I should add images correctly to the page. I have been given specific images to use in the article about him but every time I add them, they are removed from the page. I'm assuming because I have not labeled them properly. Please help so that may put a quality article together without fear of having the images removed. Thanks.

Chris Tidwell —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ctinla (talk • contribs) 06:14, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * If you work for him, you must have a conflict of interest. The images were removed not because they are not labeled properly, but because there was no evidence of permission.  Goodvac   ( talk ) 06:35, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I invite other editors to look at this article; it has a lot of suspicious attributes to it, including the possibility that part or all of it is a hoax. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  13:26, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I am of the opinion that this should be redirected to Banksy, as it appears to be a publicity stunt by him. TN X Man  13:29, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Marking pages as patrolled not via Special:NewPages.
Is it possible to make a page as patrolled without getting at it through the New Pages screen? I know Twinkle does it when you tag it normally or for speedy deletion, but if I make a couple of improvements or add maintenance templates manually, I then have to go back to Special:Newpages, find the link and then click the little thing in the bottom, right-hand corner. Surely there's a better way. Is there an addition to monobook.js that can do it easily? -- Lear's Fool (talk | contribs) 07:28, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Is it Vandalism?
Re my Userpage:

1: I have a notice on my userpage accusing me of being a Sockpuppet for Jimmy Wales - from an ISP address not a registered user – is this Vandalism?

2: How do I archive the earlier part of my (now fairly long) userpage discussion – I saw instructions once but did not note/record where it was, and am baffled where/how to find it again Hugo999 (talk) 07:49, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, that most definitely is vandalism. I've reverted it and slapped the IP with a warning. To archive your userpage, you can refer to this.  Goodvac   ( talk ) 07:53, 6 May 2010 (UTC)


 * You can also set up automatic archiving using by following the instructions at User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Stackjones
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Stackjones

This page is ready to publish.

I have no idea how to publish it, as the directions on wikipedia are extremely difficult and too numerous for even a seasoned web designer to figure out.

Also. there is a Cite error listed at the bottom of the page.

Cite error: There are, but you have to tell the software where to display the references once you add them in the text. That is done by creating a separate section at the bottom of an article, typically called "References" and adding (or the template reflist)), just as the error notice advises. In other words, go to the article and add as the last section:
 * ==References==
 * -or-
 * ==References==
 * Finally note that you should sign your post to talk pages such as this by adding four tildes ( ~ ) at the end, which automatically formats to your signature and places a timestamp when you save the post. The tildes can also be placed by clicking on the editing button which looks like this: [[Image:Button sig2.png]]. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:49, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd also note you have a conflict of interest. While it may seem odd that you would be discouraged from contributing to an article when you probably know more than any other editor, it actually makes sense in the context of the Wikipedia goals. Practice varies on how this article will be handled; it is possible it will be deleted. If someone else creates an article about you, then you are permitted, even encouraged, to post information to the related Talk Page, suggesting corrections, addition, or relevant sources, but other, uninvolved editors should make the changes.-- SPhilbrick  T  14:40, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Finally note that you should sign your post to talk pages such as this by adding four tildes ( ~ ) at the end, which automatically formats to your signature and places a timestamp when you save the post. The tildes can also be placed by clicking on the editing button which looks like this: [[Image:Button sig2.png]]. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:49, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd also note you have a conflict of interest. While it may seem odd that you would be discouraged from contributing to an article when you probably know more than any other editor, it actually makes sense in the context of the Wikipedia goals. Practice varies on how this article will be handled; it is possible it will be deleted. If someone else creates an article about you, then you are permitted, even encouraged, to post information to the related Talk Page, suggesting corrections, addition, or relevant sources, but other, uninvolved editors should make the changes.-- SPhilbrick  T  14:40, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Deepwater Horizon oil spill
There is ongoing vandalism from IP hopper 83.39.9.248 who insists on inserting the unsourced word "suspicious". A 24-hour semi-protect didn't deter him. Today I reversed as vandalism an edit by Gandydancer which according to the history was reinsertion of trhe same word. I now believe Gandydancer inserted a constuctive addition while the vandal was simultaneously at work - and that the software messed up. Can my accusation be withdrawn? Kittybrewster  &#9742;  12:37, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * It probably was a simultaneous edit where Gandydancer didn't correctly handle the difference or something similar. While you can't change the edit log summaries, I think a note on Gandydancer's talk page and a null edit to the oil spill article explaining this should handle the situation as well as anyone might expect.Naraht (talk) 12:57, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Good advice. Just note: It would be a dummy edit (a null edit is not recorded in a page's history).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:11, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * You are right, that is the term that I meant to use.Naraht (talk) 13:55, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Commercial vandalism?
User 212.66.146.131 and I have been busy today. The user has put in commercial links in See also, and I have removed them. However, the user also has added some content that I don't know how to handle. The content sounds very much like a commercial text, with sentences like: "Such deep insights into plant biology accelerate phenomics and enable plant breeding to deal with the challenges of the 21st century." However, I cannot judge if the content has any value, and should therefore be kept. What should I do? The two sections are this one and this one. Lova Falk (talk) 13:54, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The source was unacceptable per WP:ELNO #5; I've removed the content they added since it's not reliably sourced. Cassandra 73 (talk) 18:31, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Lova Falk (talk) 19:29, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

citations removed - is this valid?
In my contribution for Stephanie Peay (ecologist) some of my citations were removed because: (Removed sources that did not meet WP:CITE) (Tag: references removed). I don't see that this is valid, can I have the change reversed or could you advise on what was wrong with the citations? (This person has made inappropriate changes before.)Paulbryden (talk) 14:03, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I've put the references back as I could see no reason for their removal. I'll drop a "welcome box" on your talk page, which has lots of useful links to help you. DuncanHill (talk) 14:25, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Duncan's revisions look good. I'm not sure why the material was removed either. It looks like the Idunnowhy tried to add information to the article about two non-notable people and may have (although I'm just guessing) reacted to their removal by deleting the references. TN X Man  14:28, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

How do I change a Logo?
The Movies4Men logo has changed - how do I update this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.111.153.66 (talk) 15:14, 6 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Only autoconfirmed users with registered accounts can upload images. You'd have to create an account and become autoconfirmed (by having an account that is four days old and has made ten edits) before you can update the image.  I'd be glad to do it, and I can see the new logo on the website, but I can't find a way to download the logo by itself in an image to upload it.  --Mysdaao talk 15:48, 6 May 2010 (UTC)


 * You need to be more sneaky! I visited the site and retrieved the logo from my Firefox cache (about:cache), converted it to PNG and uploaded it over the old logo. You may need to bypass your cache to see it. – ukexpat (talk) 14:28, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Adil Khan

 * following is a reply to a query I made on User:Thathaal's talk page; I've cross-posted it back there and have replied. —Jack Merridew 22:09, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

@Jack Merridew, dear sir, i am new to wikipedia, I am learning how to write about those things or persons from norway who are important but they are not there in wikipedia english.. I would like to make it clear that I am NOT Adil Khan,neither his friend or enemy.. Adil is a young guy who managed to make himself into a star in norway and this is a great thing because he is not a native..as far it goes for my username " thathaal"...thathaal is a caste, there is an article about thathaal here in wikipedia ...there are more than a thousand thathaals here in norway..it is just a chance that i used thathaal as a user name, because that to my mind when i was registering myself... it is clear that i used too much time on my article about adil khan, the reason is that i am checking other articles and trying to imitate their style, my latest edition was writing adil khan's name in Urdu language because i saw an article about " shah rukh khan", whose name was  written  with urdu and hindi alphabet, as i said earleir, this is my first article which is resulting in excessive editing .. I have also written an article about " Oslo City Artist Award, this is a rough article which i want to improve little later, after that i plan to write about " Oslo City Culture Award" and after that about one norwegian dancer, choreograph, stage director ( she is very well known outside norway also)..Adil Khan is just a start, please be patient with me, i am in my learning process...moreover, please let me know what i should do with" adil khan " article about cleaning tag which is attched to it...sir, you can also google adil khan to find a lot of material about him, though that would be in norwegian sorry for inconvenience.--Thathaal (talk) 20:19, 6 May 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thathaal (talk • contribs) 17:11, 6 May 2010 (UTC)


 * The place to discuss this is on the article's talk page, Talk:Adil Khan. If you are not connected to Adil Khan, you can just remove the tags about COI and autobiography - but make it clear in your edit summary, or preferably on the talk page, why you think you are justified in doing so.
 * Incidentally, your paragraph above is hard to read: it would be much easier if you observed standard English punctuation: ending a sentence with '.' and starting the next one with a capital letter. --ColinFine (talk) 22:25, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

needed to get new password but it wouldn't work
I discovered my password wasn't recognized (my user name apparently was since a password was sent to my registered email account upon request). When I tried to log on with the new password a few minutes later (more than three), it wasn't recognized. I tried going back to an original log-in page, still no luck. Any clues why a new password Wiki just generated for an account Wiki clearly recognized would not work? (and how to get past this seeming impasse?) Thanks. 74.72.15.207 (talk) 17:32, 6 May 2010 (UTC)


 * The only thing I can suggest is, are you sure you haven't got the 'Caps Lock' key on, or your keyboard set up for a different language? --ColinFine (talk) 22:26, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Repeated "page not found message" from wikipedia
Today (this had not happened before) I am repeatedly getting the following messages (two at a time) with an "OK" or "Cancel" button: "'Page Not Found' was detected at 'http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dubai&action=submit'. Click 'Cancel' if this is an error and this warning will not appear in the future for this page, or click 'OK' to see archived version of the page."

And each time there are two separate messages to be canceled. This has never happened until today. What is causing it, and can I fix something to prevent these repeated messages? Thanks! Xtzou ( Talk ) 17:54, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * It appears that you have a stray apostrophe at the end of your link. Does removing this solve the problem? TN X Man  18:04, 6 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks. How do I remove a stray apostrophe? This happens when I am reading a wikipedia article. After a while, the two messages appear. (In fact, it just happen now as I am typing this.) If I click "cancel", nothing happens and the messages go away. If I click "OK", the Internet Archive opens in a tab, where it says "We're sorry, access to http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=62 has been blocked by the site owner via robots.txt." (Is it my browser, Firefox 3.6.3?) Xtzou ( Talk ) 18:24, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm. That doesn't sound like any message I've ever seen on Wikipedia. So you're just reading when the message appears or when you try to edit? TN X Man  18:37, 6 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Sometimes I am just reading it; sometimes it is when I am editing it. Xtzou ( Talk ) 19:08, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm. It sounds like an external issue. I would recommend running a virus/malware check or asking at the village technical pump. Of course, someone else here may know too, but I'm stumped. :( TN X Man  19:19, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay. Thanks for your efforts! <b style="color:navy;">Xtzou</b> ( Talk ) 19:36, 6 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Are you reading Wikipedia directly from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org) as opposed to via a mirror site or other portal? Which browser and operating system are you using? We need more data! – ukexpat (talk) 19:46, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, I'm reading directly from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org). <b style="color:navy;">Xtzou</b> ( Talk ) 19:54, 6 May 2010 (UTC)


 * The error messages you quote are from the Wayback Machine of the Internet Archive at http://web.archive.org. Some of the time you must be at the Internet Archive. They have archived billions of web pages including many pages from Wikipedia, but they are not related to Wikipedia. If you click a link at the Internet Archive then several things can go wrong (I recognize your error messages and can se which things went wrong). Read Wikipedia at http://en.wikipedia.org or the secure server at https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Main_Page. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:06, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * This is pure speculation but maybe your browser has an addon or feature which attempts to connect to the Internet Archive if the browser cannot connect to the live version of the page you try to see. I haven't heard of such a browser feature but it seems conceivable that it could exist and cause the problems you describe. Have you recently changed something regarding your browser? Which browser is it? PrimeHunter (talk) 23:16, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I haven't recently changed anything on the browser (Firefox 3.6.3), but it does have a add-on, that if it identifies a 402 page, it will ask me if I want to go to the Internet Archive and try to find it. It has occurred to me that something may have gone wrong with it, but I hate to remove the "feature", as even today I located a page in the Internet Archive for an article. Also, it seems to be showing me the message less now; in fact for the last hour or so, I have not gotten it. Wikipedia server functioning has something to do with it, do you think, since they have been screwed up today? <b style="color:navy;">Xtzou</b> ( Talk ) 23:26, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I and many others are sometimes unable to retrieve a Wikipedia page. It can have different causes at Wikipedia or your ISP or hardware or elsewhere, and it may or may not affect many other users at the same time. I am a frequent "manual" (no browser feature) user of the Internet Archive and am very often unable to retrieve a page from them. There is no point reporting Internet Archive error messages here. Wikipedia has no control over the Internet Archive –- except that our robots.txt at http://en.wikipedia.org/robots.txt tells them and others to not archive certain of our pages, for example all pages starting http://en.wikipedia.org/w/ like two of your examples. Note that pages at the Internet Archive are at least 6 months old so don't base editing decisions on them. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:47, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * You misunderstand me. I was not reporting an error in retrieving Internet Archive pages. Please see the top of this section. Reading Wikipedia pages, I was repeatedly getting the following messages (two at a time) with an "OK" or "Cancel" button:


 * "'Page Not Found' was detected at 'http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dubai&action=submit'. Click 'Cancel' if this is an error and this warning will not appear in the future for this page, or click 'OK' to see archived version of the page."


 * If I click cancel, nothing happens and the message goes away, perhaps to reappear a short time later while I am reading the same Wikipedia page. This does not happen when I am seeking an Internet Archive page. It happens when I am reading a Wikipedia. page. I think Wikipedia servers were having problems earlier and were causing this to happen. It has not happened in the last few hours, whereas it was happening on almostevery Wikipedia page that I spent any time on before. <b style="color:navy;">Xtzou</b> ( Talk ) 01:11, 7 May 2010 (UTC)


 * OK. As mentioned, users are sometimes unable to retrieve a Wikipedia page. What happens instead depends on your browser. When it happens you may just have to wait until there is a better connection. The error message and OK/Cancel options you quote are made by your browser add-on and not by Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:36, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
 * OK. I no longer have the problem. It has gone away. Thanks. <b style="color:navy;">Xtzou</b> ( Talk ) 14:22, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Advice needed for cleanup
An article I'm working on has been flagged for deletion Chris_Duke.

The notes say that it needs references. I'd like some advice on to what specifically I should find references for. There are already a few external link references. Thanks for your help!

--Joshnook (talk) 18:01, 6 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I prodded it per WP:BLPPROD. It needs cited references to significant coverage in multiple reliable sources independent of the subject to demonstrate notability per WP:BIO and to satisfy the WP:BLP policy. Bare external references are not really much help because they are not tied specifically to statements made in the article, as required. – ukexpat (talk) 18:07, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * You'll need to integrate the external links as references within the article. See Help:Footnotes for more information on how to do this. Basically, you'll need to cite the appropriate sources within the article by placing the footnote between a tag . TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  18:09, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * We are also concerned about questions of conflict of interest, since your only edits in Wikipedia have been about Duke, his company, and his "network". -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  19:37, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

My edits broken down by month
Somewhere I have seen a breakdown of my edits, by month. It was somewhere on one of my user pages, but not I can't find it. Where is it? Bubba73 (You talkin' to me?), 18:29, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Go to Special:Contributions/Bubba73. Scroll to the bottom of the page and click on "edit count" (you may have to opt in). I believe this shows the breakdown you want. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  18:38, 6 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks, that is it. It has changed since I used it last and I had not opted in.    Bubba73 (You talkin' to me?), 18:47, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Unsearchable Entry
I just posted an entry but when I type the title into the search box on Wikipedia, the entry cannot be found. Why is this happening? Is there a delay in the time it gets posted in the time it is searchable and viewable by users? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.112.42.214 (talk) 19:48, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * What is the name of the entry you posted? The IP from which you've edited only shows one edit that you've made. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  19:53, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * It takes a little while for new text to show up in the search engine. Try searching again after some time has gone by. 69.228.170.24 (talk) 07:31, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Search engine results: same article in different languages
Hi. I have stopped limiting my searches on various search engines to English only, since discovering the Firefox add-on that translates on the fly. My most recent Google search listed several articles in different language Wikipedias; however, all of them were actually the same article, just translated. Is it worth it to keep clicking on these references to see if some of them are original articles or are they usually the same as the English one? Or is it completely random? (I hope not) Thanks for your help. Artfann Artfann (talk) 20:50, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Each Wikipedia is its own separate project, with different rules and standards. Don't assume any commonality in anything besided subject matter (and maybe not even that). -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  20:52, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Harassment!
Dear Wikipedia, this member HERE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Snaisybelle has been constantly adding nonsense to my talk page, not to "SynchPedro86" but my "45g" alternative profile. I've warned her not to do this, yet she still signs in and does it. She knows me from another website. One of your Wikipedia moderators alao knows her from the same site, so he's been stalking my IP address and making out I'm using sockpuppets, some of which is 5 years old. He also publicly posted my IP.

SynchPedro86 (talk) 22:19, 6 May 2010 (UTC)


 * You may want to bring this to the attention of an admin at WP:ANI. Dismas |(talk) 01:17, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
 * This is already being discussed at Wikiquette_alerts, and it was discussed at Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive609 a week ago. Also, 45g is now trying to deceive me and Snaisybelle by creating alternate accounts and going to the "Help desk" behind our backs. I'm seriously disappointed in 45g behavior. I'm now going to start a sockpuppetry investigation due to this deception. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 17:32, 7 May 2010 (UTC)