Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2010 November 15

= November 15 =

Contribution by Botanical Artist
I would like to contribute a drawing which I have done on Dias Cotinifolia - I contributed it to the latest book on Bring Back Nature to your Garden are you interested RMP —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.185.118.81 (talk) 04:56, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * See Help:Upload and Help:Images for more information on uploading images. -- Jayron  32  05:41, 15 November 2010 (UTC)


 * But before you do, please make sure that you own the copyright to the image. It is possible, depending upon the terms of your submission to the book's publisher, that you assigned the copyright to them. If you did retain the copyright, please upload the image to Wikimedia Commons so that it is available to all Wikimedia projects. – ukexpat (talk) 15:20, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Executive Director of organization featured in a Wikipedia article wants to learn more about how to use Wikipedia
Hello. Wikipedia is an amazing gift to the world! I have used Wikipedia for years, but have never actually edited a page on Wikipedia until tonight.

I am the Executive Director of Wildlands Restoration Volunteers. I realized that the article about our organization was quite out of date, and made some edits to bring it up to date. I would like to add more content, but want to make sure I follow your standards of conduct. I read through some of your tutorial information and understand that an article should not be promotional in nature. It should be factual. I get that.

Can I upload our organizational logo? Is that appropriate? Typical? I have only a cursury understanding of copywriting, so am not clear if it is appropriate to upload our logo. I have no problem with other people using our logo image freely as long as it associated with our organization.

Can I upload a few photographs of our volunteers in action as a way to visually depict our work?

From your FAQ it sounds like I need some sort of admin access to upload images, but it seemed so complicated, I couldn't figure out exactly how the process works.

Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you. Edself123 (talk) 06:44, 15 November 2010 (UTC)


 * For uploading images, you need to be "autoconfirmed". This happens automatically after 4 days and 10 edits.  In order to upload an image, you'd go to Upload (after being autoconfirmed).  As far as fixing the article on your organization, we appreciate any help we can get, but please be aware that Wikipedia is very sensitive towards people using it as a means of promotion, which is forbidden.  Please read Conflict of interest and Best practices for editors with conflicts of interest and FAQ/Organizations for some general guidelines towards working with articles about organizations you are involved with.  In general, it is best practice to use the article discussion page (select the "discussion" tab when you are viewing the article) to declare your connection to the company, and to make suggestions regarding how you would like to see the article fixed.  Experienced editors can also help you work through any troubles, you can always ask for more help here at the help desk, or you can contact me directly at my user talk page, User talk:Jayron32.  -- Jayron  32  06:49, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Images with copyright released by a PR firm...
Korean author Han Kang's agent has a picture she would like to have on Kang's page. The agent would happily sign a letter releasing the photo with the four freedoms. Is this enough for me to put the photo up without copyright concerns, or worries of deletion?

I've sorted through the help-pages and can't figure this out... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ccmontgom (talk • contribs) 06:54, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * You and those you represent may want to read through Donating copyrighted materials for information on donating copyrighted pictures and how to do it correctly. -- Jayron  32  06:58, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Cool, just what I needed! Ccmontgom (talk) 07:21, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Grameen Foundation Australia
14:17, 8 November 2010 Lectonar (talk | contribs) deleted "Grameen Foundation Australia" ‎ (A7: No explanation of the subject's significance (real person, animal, organization, or web content))

what does that mean ? How can I do to recreate this page without being deleted ?

Thank you so much for helping

best regards —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maiiina (talk • contribs) 07:39, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * The explanation is in the page linked to by A7: WP:CSD, and the further links in that section. An article would need to explain why the organisation meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability, and include references that support that claim. --ColinFine (talk) 08:11, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia links in section titles
References do not belong in section titles, but what about internal (Wikipedia) links? Do they belong there? Example: article "WikiProject Electronics/Programs". --Mortense (talk) 10:08, 15 November 2010 (UTC)


 * See WP:HEAD. To avoid accessibility problems, headings should not normally contain links, especially where only part of a heading is linked.  That is written in reference to the main article space though and, to my knowledge, doesn't necessarily also apply to WikiProjects though I can't think of why it wouldn't.  Dismas |(talk) 10:20, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Account registration dates
I need a tool that reliably reports the date on which a given account was registered. Can anyone point me to one? Thanks,  Skomorokh   10:08, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Not really an answer at second look, but this tool/URL will report when a given account did the first edit (presumably close in time to registration time). Your user name, Skomorokh, is used in this example: http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/count/index.php?name=Skomorokh&lang=en&wiki=wikipedia . I don't know whether it is reliable or not. --Mortense (talk) 10:19, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply, but I need the registration date (in my case for instance, the two are two months apart).  Skomorokh   10:29, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * For accounts created from September 2005 onwards, it's in the user creation log, for example: your case. David Biddulph (talk) 11:20, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, great, thanks David. Do you know how it works for renamed accounts? user:Harej, renamed from user:Messedrocker has been around since at least 2006, but the log for those two names gives only the dates for User:Harej (usurped) and the vandal who registered Messedrocker after Harej abandoned it.  Skomorokh   11:35, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Why was I removed from writers' lists?
I'm a published mystery writer, and have added my name to various appropriate writers' lists, but subsequently my name has been deleted in most cases. Is this because there is no article about me? If I set up a user page, will that allow my name to stay? Apart from wanting to appear , I feel it can't be right If a list contain only authors with articles, as it'll then be far from comprehensive. Delfinus (talk) 13:50, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * WP:NLIST is the standard for including entries on various "list of..." wikipedia entries. Essentially they are actually just directories of wikipedia pages only. Wikipedia is not a directory of everything, and there are some basic criteria for having an article about a person. User-pages are not articles, and are not acceptable as entries in list-ofs (again, we're an encyclopedia, not a directory of people's self-created homepages). Just "being published" only proves you're a writer, not that you're a notable one yet. DMacks (talk) 14:09, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

How to replace/update a image
How can I upload an updated copy of an image that is already included one or more articles —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sigurdur73 (talk • contribs) 14:10, 15 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Double-click on the image to get to a page with a "File:" prefix, then there are two cases to consider:
 * If the file page says "This is a file from the Wikimedia Commons. Information from its description page there is shown below", click on the "description page" link to jump to the page at Commons. Part way down that page will be a link "Upload a new version of this file"
 * Otherwise the file is held at Wikipedia, and the first "File:" page should have a similar "Upload a new version" link. However, your account is too new to upload a new file in this case, because only confirmed users can upload here. To become a "confirmed" user you must have been registered for 4 days and have made 10 edits. If you can't think of any useful edits to make, I recommend the Lists of common misspellings. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:24, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, this spells the solution out quite well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sigurdur73 (talk • contribs) 10:28, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

New page was deleted
Hi, I recently created a new page about Mark N. Katz. He is an author and teacher from George Mason University. Shortly after I created the page, it was deleted for copyright reasons. I included links and citations in my article. Can you give me any more information as to why this happened? If possible, I would also like to know specifically what sections were plagarized. I am new to Wikipedia and do not want to make this mistake again. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abigailholbert (talk • contribs) 15:29, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * According to the deletion log, it was deleted due to "Unambiguous copyright infringement of http://www.marknkatz.com/Bio.html". The admin who performed the deletion (see the log entry) may be able to help more. Dismas |(talk) 15:42, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Though, it seems that the article has been re-created: Mark N. Katz. Dismas |(talk) 15:43, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Book?
Hi, I remember reading on Wikipedia that there is a way to create your own "book", where you put several categories in it and put Wikipedia pages in the book for reference, but now I can't find the link to do this. Is this feature still available to registered users of the site? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brianpstone (talk • contribs) 15:32, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * On the toolbar list (Top left of this page and most other pages) there is a "Print/Export" drop down list, open this list and select "Create a Book". This puts the "Book Creator" menu at the top of the page, and allows you to add the page you are currently on. You can then navigate Wikipedia as you normally would, and the "Book Creator" stays at the top of the page, allowing you to add each page you want Darigan (talk) 15:37, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * More details at Help:Books. Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 15:39, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia Survey Question
Hi I recently some how came across a wikipedia survey and accidentally filled it out without knowing if it was legit or not. The page was http://wikipedia.com-panel.com Have I been scammed? It asked me two questions and then said that if I filled in some info I would be able to get a gift from wikipedia. Have you come across this problem before? Do you know what will happen to me if this was a scam? Also how did I get there? I can't figure out what I may have accidentally typed in.
 * It's a scam - as soon as I tried to exit their survey, I got pop-ups and other junk. TN X Man  19:17, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. my computer hasn't picked up on any virus'so hopefully it didn't give me any.

Warnings about editing misuse
I've been using wikipedia via my blackberry for some time, and have today had a yellow bar come up on my search results screen with 'new messages'. I clicked on it, and it had the header User talk:93.186.31.238. It was a list of edits that had been made, and why people had undone them, along with a warning about not doing it again. That's not my IP and I haven't been on any of the pages listed, so why have I received this link? Have I used my phone somewhere where that IP is active? I tend to only use wifi at home, which is a secure network.

19:21, 15 November 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.186.31.241 (talk)
 * You may have been assigned a new IP, which had previously been used by someone vandalizing Wikipedia. If it wasn't you, then there's no need to worry. I would suggest registering an account, which has a lot of benefits, one of which is that you do not receive messages intended for others. TN X Man  19:24, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * You say you received this message on a Blackberry&mdash;could you have been outside of your home using a public WiFi service when you received it? If you were, anyone with a WiFi-enabled device would be able to edit (and vandalise) Wikipedia, and you would be sent the message as the next person to visit Wikipedia. I can only echo what Tnx says above, I do recommend registering an account even if you do not wish to contribute to Wikipedia. Regards, wacky  wace  19:30, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you - I just logged on via my laptop instead and did some googling and that IP seems to be a blackberry one that gets passed around, I assume via my mobile network. I notice the one I posted via is only a few numbers out from the original one, so it must just flit about somehow. Registering an account now! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.0.244.197 (talk) 19:47, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

i want to donate for wikipedia in indian rupees.
please make available to me for donation to wikipedia in indian rupees. i want to see this great website developing more and more. i am unable to donate in dollars. it will be helpful to many indians like me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.212.181.162 (talk) 19:38, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * This was answered above. Kittybrewster  &#9742;  20:19, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Add a page
I'd like to add a page, so when people search in wikipedia they find it. how do I do that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Daph2010 (talk) 19:38, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * User:Daph2010, you do not appear to be WP:NOTABLE. Kittybrewster  &#9742;  20:29, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Kittybrewstrer, Daph did not say they wanted a page about themselves: they did not say what the page was to be on. Daph, please start with WP:Your first article. --ColinFine (talk) 22:46, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Kittybrewster is probably guessing that Daph2010 is the person mentioned in the first edit of the account. If that is the case then see Autobiography. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:27, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Belfast
Hello,

I would like to talk about your Belfast, United kingdom article. You (at the top of the page) say that it is the 2nd biggest city in the Ireland, I feel that it would be much more useful to list it as the 15th most populous city in the Uk and not by land mass. You could even say what it is by population size in the British Isles or even in Northern Ireland and then list by UK. I feel that listing it as the 2nd most populous out of two countries it a big odd, but if you wan't to go back to before 1921 you can do that ;), thank-you for your time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 14wlondon (talk • contribs) 21:49, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * We tend to prefer more notable distinctions. It is the second biggest city on the island it inhabits; that is far more noteworthy than being the 15th most populous city under the political entity by which it is ruled. This is not a matter of 32-county thinking, just a matter of more important distinction vs. second-tier ranking. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  22:05, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * In any case, this sort of discussion belongs in the article's talk page, which is probably frequented by more people with an interest in that topic than here. --ColinFine (talk) 22:49, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Donation feature does not work
FYI - I clicked on Jimmy Wales message and tried to make a donation. The Credit Card and Paypal buttons do not work. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.71.56.11 (talk) 22:19, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I used PayPal yesterday successfully. (which doesn't mean you are wrong, just passing along info in case someone needs to look into it)-- SPhilbrick  T  22:37, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

how are subjects in Wikipedia cross-referenced?
If I look up a term in Wikipedia and there are several articles on the term or something similar (ex. Beetle...I could have misspelled the band name or I could be looking for information on the vehicle or on the insect) I am redirected. How does Wikipedia know to redirect me? in other words, does a person index search terms or is it done through a computer program? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.242.194.211 (talk) 22:27, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect pages are created by people. The index used when Wikipedia searches within articles is generated automatically --ColinFine (talk) 22:51, 15 November 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure which feature you refer to. At the top of Beetle is a hatnote saying:
 * This article is about the insect. For other uses, see Beetle (disambiguation).
 * Beetle (disambiguation) is a disambiguation page written by editors.
 * If you enter a term in the search field and there is a page or redirect completely matching (except for capitalization) what you entered then you are taken to that page. If there is no complete match then you get an automatically generated search results page. If you want the search results page in a case where a page match exists then you can select "containing..." at the bottom of the list below the search box. See more at Help:Searching. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:21, 16 November 2010 (UTC)