Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2010 October 15

= October 15 =

Link to Wikisource
At the end of the article William Steinway you can click on "Source texts". When clicking on "Source texts" you are directed directly to a speech about William Steinway by Carl Schurz. My question is how to change the link to go to the page for search results. --Peoplefromarizona (talk) 21:52, 12 October 2010 (UTC)


 * You shouldn't add search results as an external link; link directly to a resource relevant to the article. Can I ask why you wish to link to search results?  Giftiger Wunsch   [TALK]  22:41, 12 October 2010 (UTC)


 * It appears that the "source texts" is simply a cross reference to another wiki-project page, over at wikisource, and on that page, the content just happens to be a speach about William Steinway. This is an appropraite link. What specifically are you looking to accomplish? Tiggerjay (talk) 20:06, 13 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I would like to direct the reader to the search results on Wikisource, because there are more than just a speech about William Steinway. I would like to get it the same way as it is in the article Sun. --Peoplefromarizona (talk) 21:23, 14 October 2010 (UTC)


 * sisterlinks is designed to go directly to a matching page name instead of making a search but you could assign something to the parameter  that doesn't match a page name at wikisource, for example   as I did here. Changing upper/lower case isn't enough to miss a matching page. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:34, 14 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you, PrimeHunter. Finally somebody had a little knowledge about this. --Peoplefromarizona (talk) 13:29, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Redirected from $1
Is it possible to hide the redirect notice on top of certain pages? example :| TelCo  NaSp  Ve :|  04:49, 15 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Your link is to Wiktionary. They are a sister project to Wikipedia, but they are independantly run.  If you have a question regarding Wiktionary, it is best to ask it at wikt:Wiktionary:Information desk.  -- Jayron  32  05:12, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * A more relevant example for the nitpickers. :| TelCo  NaSp  Ve :|  05:21, 15 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Admins should be able to avoid display on certain pages by editing MediaWiki:Redirectedfrom to omit the message if or similar matches something. It's also possible to position something else on a page so browsers are likely to place it on top of any "(Redirected from ...)" message. But in that case it will still be in the page source, and your example includes "(Redirected from Main Page)" if I mark the whole rendered page with Ctrl+A and copy it. Maybe some software like screen readers will not even notice that something is on top of it. Do you have a specific use in mind? PrimeHunter (talk) 05:24, 15 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Simply testing on other wikis; I figured smart English Wikipedians know more wikicode than most. :| TelCo  NaSp  Ve :|  05:32, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Required physical amenities/facilities for an upscale hotel for business travelers
I need information on the list of Required physical amenities/facilities for an upscale hotel for business travelers. I also need to know the basis of the Star Ratings for a hotel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.190.246.210 (talk) 07:43, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * This page is only for questions about how to use Wikipedia. You might have better luck at the Miscellaneous section of the Reference Desk.  It would help if you mentioned where in the world you are, as requirements for a luxury hotel and may differ from place to place, and rating systems most certainly will.  Also, please sign your question by putting four tildes (~) at the end, like I have here ->  Rojomoke (talk) 09:55, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

download articles for personal use
Is it possible to save an article to my PC as an editable document, and maintain the original layout and formatting? i want to do this so that i can highlight points in the article for my own note taking. when i use MS Office Word to EDIT a downloaded ("save as...") article, it significantly changes the layout. i would like it to look like the original with all links and images.

alternatively, is there a way to highlight an article online? in other words, to save a file that remembers my personal highliting of an artile when i return to that article online.

thanks, bill b --76.110.10.95 (talk) 08:18, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I think for the former your best best would to create a PDF of the web page, on PCs you could do this with the paid version of Adobe Acrobat, on mac you just start to print the doc and save it as a pdf. For the latter issue, take a look at some of the web page annotation software. I use a mac with coda notes for this kind of thing. --Nuujinn (talk) 11:35, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Edit Summary drop-down box
When entering an Edit Summary, a drop down box shows previous summaries I have used, which can be selected to complete the summary. This is very useful, especially with repetitive edits such as spelling.

Over time, however, the list gets cluttered with too many entries, many only used once. This makes the search for the correct summary too long for the list to be useful.

Is there a way to edit this list, or failing that clear it, so it can be built up again? I assume it is a form of cookie, but do not want to clear all my other cookies just to improve this one. I have looked in Help:Edit summary but this gives no guidance. Arjayay (talk) 08:53, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Arjayay (talk) 14:53, 15 October 2010 (UTC) Arjayay (talk) 15:29, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * You can use the arrow keys to scroll up and down the list, then press the delete (Del) key to remove items. CaptRik (talk) 13:04, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks - having tried, it really is that simple - perhaps this should be explained somewhere?
 * It's a general feature of your web browser, not of Wikipedia - you should find you can do the same thing on e.g. the Google search box. It should be covered somewhere in your web browser's documentation - mine (Firefox) documents it here, for example. Gonzonoir (talk) 15:07, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Live and learn - I've not come across that before - Thanks

tagging an image
Hi there- I took a screen shot of the site I developed and inserted the image on a wiki. I keep getting warnings that the image will be deleted because of a copyright violation. I created the site and the logo so it is not a violation but I am thinking its because I am not tagging the image correctly. How do I tag the images so its not triggering a violation. Please help! Here is the link to the wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KhassKhass.com_-_A_Nepali_literary_web_venue. Thank you!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.192.223.26 (talk) 13:11, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * To quote WP:IOWN:
 * If you submitted work to Wikipedia which you had previously published (especially online), and your submission was marked as a potential infringement of copyright, then stating on the article's talk page that you are the copyright holder of the work, while not likely to prevent deletion, helps. It is sufficient to either:
 * Make a note permitting reuse under the Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 3.0 Unported License (CC-BY-SA) and the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) (unversioned, with no invariant sections, front-cover texts, or back-cover texts) at the site of the original publication; or
 * Send an email from an address associated with the original publication to [mailto:permissions-commons@wikimedia.org permissions-commons@wikimedia.org] or a postal message to the Wikimedia Foundation, ideally using the email template at WP:CONSENT.
 * See also Donating copyrighted materials. -- Bk314159 (Talk to me and find out what I've done) 14:00, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Moving Notes to Talk Page Until Sorted Out
There is a Notes section on the Ernie Kovacs page that needs to be sorted out. Think that I will eventually be able to touch on most of them and incorporate them into the text with refs. Is there anything wrong with moving this section to the page's Talk page until this gets done?

Thanks!!

We hope (talk) 19:56, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Give it a go. Explain what you are doing in the edit summary and on the talk page.  I've seen people do it before. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 22:13, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Will do-Thanks!!

We hope (talk) 01:10, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

How to tell where an article starts and ends.
Is there any definative way to tell where an articles text starts and ends in the wikipedia download XML?

There dosent seem to be a definative pattern. When the wiki markup is translated to HTML, that process seems to understand where the article text begins and ends.

How does it know?

Thanks in advance...

Jeff —Preceding unsigned comment added by 171.159.194.10 (talk) 20:01, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I am not familiar with Wikipedia download XML. But I do know that XML is a nested structured language, i.e. every element which has content must have a closing tag. Is there not an element (with a closing tag) which denotes an article's text? --ColinFine (talk) 09:12, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

article creation
I created an account "Hardy High Points" earlier this evening, and then created a short article, titled "Hardy (hill)" following all the rules, saved the page successfully, but now searching in my account, on Wikipedia and on google, absolutely zilch - not impressed when immediate publication to the world is promised! How long do I have to wait 'til my article appears when I search for it in the three ways above, or has it "lost" it? - and if I try again how do I know it won't happen again? Have I wasted an hour's work? If something's gone wrong, I hope I would be told about it rather than just left in the dark, so I hope it's worked (it said it had) in which case it's back to "how long do I have to wait for it to appear?".Hardy High Points (talk) 20:12, 15 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Your contributions only show your message here on the Help Desk, so you probably didn't click the button after you had finished creating your article. I am afraid that your only option is to start afresh. You may want to consider using the article wizard  - it will walk you through the process. – ukexpat (talk) 20:40, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Silas Creek Parkway. Write new? Or edit another article?
Hi, i am wanted to write an article about Silas Creek Parkway and its history in Winston-Salem, NC. I have searched this term and so far the only article that seems most relevant, is the Wiki article North Carolina Highway 67. My question is, should i just edit the North Carolina Highway 67 artical or create a new artical titled Silas Creek Parkway? Owlswatch (talk) 21:45, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd write a separate article if you've got some good sources about Silas Creek Parkway. If you only have a small amount of information, editing the North Carolina Highway 67 article is the way to go. I've just dropped a template on your talkpage (User talk:Owlswatch with a whole bunch of links that you might find helpful both in deciding whether to write a whole article, and in writing the article if you decide to write it. Elen of the Roads (talk) 22:11, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Monobook not working
Why isn't my monobook making the WP:FA articles clear to me. They are all appearing in normal font.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:27, 15 October 2010 (UTC)


 * This must refer to a feature I don't know. Can you be more specific? Do you think the code in User:TonyTheTiger/monobook.css should change something about how featured articles appear? PrimeHunter (talk) 20:56, 16 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes. One line of code is suppose to make those FAs that have been WP:TFA bold and the other is suppose to make the font color green.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:25, 17 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't know enough to evaluate this. I'm only posting because nobody else has answered. Is it based on documentation somewhere? PrimeHunter (talk) 20:16, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Popup Smiley Face
I've enabled navigation popups by installing the text "importScript('User:Lupin/popups.js');" in my .js file. When I hover over the link to the Language Reference desk, I see a yellow winking smiley face in the popup that doesn't appear on the actual page. See User:Rojomoke/strange smiley Where is this coming from? Rojomoke (talk) 23:30, 15 October 2010 (UTC)


 * It displays the first image in the wiki source: The smiley face in Reference desk/Language. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:21, 16 October 2010 (UTC)