Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2010 October 19

= October 19 =

How do i cancel this redirection
I started a page on 'The Joys of Motherhood', a novel by Buchi Emecheta. Though the citations were missing and the sentences short, when i got a good source for information about the topic and wanted to upgrade it, i noticed it had been redirected to its author's page. It is supposed to be independent as it is a very popular and well-read book. How do i cancel this redirection? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Evolutionofmankind (talk • contribs) 12:46, 19 October 2010 (UTC)


 * If you now have enough material to make the page justifiable, satisfying Wikipedia's guidelines and demonstrating notability and verifiability, you can merely over-write the redirect. If in doubt, put your article up in a page in your user space & ask for review.  David Biddulph (talk) 12:54, 19 October 2010 (UTC)


 * See Help:Redirect. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:24, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Need help with excess white space
At Roman departure from Britain. Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 16:45, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I moved the top image from before the infobox/series box to after it. That took care of the huge vertical white space. --Teratornis (talk) 18:02, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 05:12, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Google Categories
Dear Wikipedia

WHY THE HELL when I get the results of en.wikipedia.org at the Google Search, one of the categories of "Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia", is LADY GAGA ????

I respect the Wikipedia project, but adding LADY GAGA alongside English, Science, History, etc. as a Category is just plain ridiculous.

Then, why don't we put American Idol, the Jersey Shore, Dexter, or other similar as categories hmm? They seem to be as important as Science and History.

Is this a mock to human intelligence, achievement, and culture?

Regards. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.189.176.104 (talk) 17:01, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * This is Wikipedia, not Google. Wikipedia has no control over what Google does. You'll have to ask Google to explain their PageRank algorithm. --Teratornis (talk) 17:53, 19 October 2010 (UTC)


 * It sounds like you are referring to what is called sitelinks. They are automatically selected by Google. Wikipedia does not control which sitelinks are displayed by Google. See http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=47334. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:16, 19 October 2010 (UTC)


 * However, for the record, we do indeed have a Category:Lady Gaga. We also have a Category:American Idol, a Category:Dexter (TV series) and a Category:Jersey Shore.  These are just a few of Wikipedia's many thousands of (arguably) useful categories.  Ka renjc 21:38, 19 October 2010 (UTC)


 * It's Google sitelinks. Google lists it because it's algorithm says it's one of the most likely pages you'd be interested in. viewing statistics suggests it's correct. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 21:51, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Lion-Vallen Industries wikipedia page.
my page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion-Vallen_Industries was deleted for copyright infringement. However, I am the original author of all of the posted page content. I know I am new to Wikipedia, but I am not trying to abuse or misuse the wiki in any way. Please advise on what I can do to have my page return like Lazarus? Thanks much and best regards. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dreher1980 (talk • contribs) 19:00, 19 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Your article's deletion page has a link to Copyrights, so read that. It also has a link to Why was my page deleted?, so read that too, in particular What_you_can_do_about_it (and section 6 of that). David Biddulph (talk) 19:23, 19 October 2010 (UTC)


 * (e/c) I can't see the deleted article, but if it was based on the material at http://www.lionapparel.com, there will be a number of problems with your resubmitting it. Encylopedia articles at Wikipedia must be written from a neutral point of view - Wikipedia is not an advertising mediuum - so text taken straight from a company website is most unlikely to be suitable. Another problem is if you are the author of the text at the website, you have some kind of business connection with the company and therefore have a conflict of interest in writing about it here.


 * In addition, please read Notability (organizations and companies). Most companies are not notable enough, in Wikipedia terms, for an article to be written about them.


 * If you still think an article is appropriate, I suggest you start with a draft article in your user space - User:Dreher1980/Lion-Vallen Industries - and ask for feedback at Requests for feedback before moving it to the main encyclopedia. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:33, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

How does an UNREVIEWED article become a REVIEWED article?
I just posted a new article entitled RADM Ali S. Khan, but I want to get rid of the banner about it being an unreviewed article. How do a get it reviewed? Is there any way to expidite this?

Thank you Bensonme (talk) 20:03, 19 October 2010 (UTC) (talk

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Bensonme (talk • contribs) 20:01, 19 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I've reviewed it for you. In general, you're treading rather close to the copyright line, and the overall article sounds rather like the official biography published by his employer.  Is it safe to assume that you work for the same group, and have been assigned to write an article?
 * If you don't want to see this article deleted, then you need to find some independent sources that discuss the rear admiral. Official bios on his employer's website is not an indication that Kahn has received enough attention to qualify for (think, "be subjected to") a Wikipedia biography.  See WP:BIO for the usual rules.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:01, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

summary deletion of two articles. While seeking footnote help.
- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jack Armstrong II (talk • contribs) 22:21, 19 October 2010 (UTC) Two articles, under the pseudonym of Jack Armstrong II, have been summarily deleted instantaneously by orangeman. While seeking help with the placement of footnotes. The two articles in question are "the current immigration crisis in NYC" and "the history of the jews (from chaldea to mashiak)". The reason given, "blatant advertising" makes no sense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jack Armstrong II (talk • contribs) 22:16, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Not being an Admin, I can't see the pages that were deleted: You'll have to ask the Admin who deleted them, at his Talk page. --ColinFine (talk) 23:41, 19 October 2010 (UTC)


 * See What Wikipedia is not and Neutral point of view. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:21, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I can't see the deleted articles either, but their titles and PrimeHunter's comment suggests No original research may also help explain what happened. Ka renjc 09:10, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

What's the difference between Wikipedia and Wikitravel?
As I understand it, Wikitravel includes all travel-related information. But nearly all of it is also included in Wikipedia (except for opening hours and adresses). I stumbled upon all those airport articles that feature a detailed listing of all kinds of flights one can book, sometimes even stores and car rental agancies are included. And many airline articles feature extensive coverage of all advantages of the frequent flyer programmes. Why is this content allowed on Wikipedia, wouldn't it be more suitable at Wikitravel? The case is, I just don't know which project to join. Is there any chance that the distinction between the two might once be abolished? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.83.53.93 (talk) 23:08, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Wikitravel is in no way affiliated with Wikipedia. What Wikitravel chooses to include has nothing to do with us at all. Algebraist 23:21, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * There are many articles in Wikipedia which contain material which is unencyclopaedic and should not be there. Some editors are WP:wikiGnomes, who improve articles when they find unsuitable material; but there are many more editors who are glad to be able to add information and don't concern themselves overly with whether the information meets Wikipedia's guidelines. --ColinFine (talk) 23:44, 19 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is a general encyclopedia without advertisements and run by the non-profit Wikimedia Foundation. Wikitravel has advertisements and is owned by the media company Internet Brands. Wikitravel is not affiliated with Wikipedia or the Wikimedia Foundation. It uses the same popular MediaWiki software but that is used by lots of completely independent wikis. I don't know exactly what Wikitravel does and it's not a concern when Wikipedia decides what to do. As a general encyclopedia with more than 3 million articles, Wikipedia will have subject overlaps with many other websites. Some people prefer to donate their volunteeer time to a non-profit project like Wikipedia while others don't care. Some people care how many will see their work. Wikipedia is currently the seventh most visited website according to Alexa traffic rank. Wikitravel is number 3281 but it has far fewer pages and 7 versus 3281 does not reflect how many people will see a given page on the same subject at Wikipedia and Wikitravel. It seems unlikely to me that the commercial Wikitravel and non-profit Wikipedia will ever merge. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:10, 20 October 2010 (UTC)