Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2010 September 12

= September 12 =

Yayasanbaiturrohim
This article was originally written in Indonesian. I used Google Translator to turn it into English. The title needs moving in response to the translation. Do I have to discuss the move, or can I "speedy move" like speedy deletion? Us441(talk)(contribs) 00:17, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
 * The translation is not really understandable in English. In any event, what makes the article notable at all?--Bbb23 (talk) 00:22, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
 * That is not what I asked. Us441(talk)(contribs) 00:24, 12 September 2010 (UTC)


 * True, but if the article should be deleted, why waste time moving it? Perhaps more experienced editors than I will give you an answer more to your liking.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:34, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
 * (after edit conflict:) The answer to your question is that you just move it. If it were an article that a number of people had contributed to, it would be more satisfactory to discuss the move on the article's talk page first; but in a case like this, just move it. However Bbb23's concerns are significant: I see the article has already been nominated for deletion because it does not assert that the foundation is notable. It also has no sources, and is partly incomprehensible. --ColinFine (talk) 00:36, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Uploading own image
Hi, earlier I mistakenly uploaded an image without a license and it got deleted. But the image is my own and now when I try again I cant, it says the image has been deleted before I also tried changing description but it did not work. The file name was "Baluchboy1.jpg". Thanks. BalochMedia (talk) 08:55, 12 September 2010 (UTC)


 * It appears you uploaded it at Commons: . I don't know about restrictions on reuploading to a deleted name but if that's the problem then why not simply upload it to a new name? Or you could post to commons:Commons:Help desk. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:18, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

NPOV troll running a move proposal
Is it possible that a different admin can over look this move proposal, as you can see here it is currently being lead by a liar. -- intraining  Jack In  09:07, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Making baseless accusations don't help your case. See WP:ANI.  Goodvac   ( talk ) 09:08, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not making baseless claims Anthony Appleyard said that he as never heard of bing the search engine and yet he was the one who moved Bing to Bing (search engine) way back in october of last year. He is full of shit, all i'm asking is for a netual admin to over look this proposal.-- intraining  Jack In  09:14, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Again, you will find a neutral admin at WP:ANI.  Goodvac   ( talk ) 09:16, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks goodvac:).-- intraining  Jack In  09:18, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Anthony Appleyard moved a disambiguation page with an entry on the search engine from 'Bing' to 'Bing (disambiguation)' last October. Before that, in June 2009, someone had changed the dab page to a redirect to the search engine and Anthony reverted it to the status quo. There's no reason he should have recalled that. Dougweller (talk) 10:21, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Deletion and protection logs in watchlist
Hi! Is there any method to remove Special:Log/delete and Special:Log/protect from my watchlist? → Alfie ±Talk 12:31, 12 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I guess you mean to remove watchlist entries when pages on your watchlist get an action in the delete or protect log. I don't think there is a built in way to do it. I'm not ruling out that a script could do it but I don't see one at WikiProject User scripts/Scripts. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:53, 12 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Right guess. THX a lot. → Alfie ±Talk 13:06, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Move live a draft page
Dear sir, I created in my user space (in the Watchlist) a page which I believe is now mature to go live (put it into Wikipedia public area). Could you give me the instructions to do so?

best regards Kypros nicolaides —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kypros Nicolaides (talk • contribs) 15:56, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
 * The article, User:Kypros Nicolaides/"Andreas Diakou" Cyprus Agriculture Prize is not currently ready to be moved to the mainspace. The major problem is that it has not reliable sources to verify the information in the article.  I would suggest reading WP:FIRST.  That gives good information about writing your first article.  If you have any questions please ask.   GB  fan  16:24, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your advices, I will make good use of them. The subject is obviously official and clean with Cyprus Republic administration and I have the source (I didn't manage to upload it - as newcomer) letter. The problem is that the letter is in Greek. Following your recommendation on sources I believe that if the administration of Cyprus puts the letter translated in English on line (.gov) there would be more chances that the article is accepted. This is what I will ask them to do.Kypros Nicolaides (talk) 19:44, 13 September 2010 (UTC) best regards

Help removing a peer review
I posted the article on Antonin Raymond for a peer review on the Biography Project to try and get feedback so that I could nominate it as a FA. I've unfortunately had no feedback. How do I remove the request so that I can ask for a review under another project? Can I simply delete it from the Biography page or is there more to it? Kenchikuben (talk) 16:50, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I "archived" the nomination, per the instructions at WikiProject Biography/Peer review. That whole project is listed as only semi-active. I suggest you ask for a peer review at Peer review. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:40, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Naming "blacklist"
Why was I prevented from registering the username "TheAmazingFantasticExplodingDiaphragmIsInTheHouse"? TheAmazingExplodingDiaphragm (talk) 19:26, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Probably too long. See our username policy Spartaz Humbug! 19:31, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
 * The problem is the policy says only that "extremely lengthy usernames" are "highly discouraged". It doesn't say forbidden and it doesn't say what's too long. I found many discussions on Wikipedia about the policy and about long usernames, and no one can seem to agree about how to handle them. In my view, if there's a specific limit, (1) it should be stated in the registration process and (2) it should be stated in the policy. But from glancing at the discussions, my view may a minority view, hard to tell. Practically speaking, I believe the username character limit may be 39 or 40. If so, the proposed username exceeds that limit.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:48, 12 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I would have guessed from mw:Manual:$wgMaxNameChars and http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=InitialiseSettings.php that the software limit for Wikipedia is 64 but I may not be looking at the right file. TheAmazingFantasticExplodingDiaphragmIsInTheHouse is 49 characters. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:46, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

my content edits are removed.
Dear Wikipedia,

I cannot contribute to wikipedia in the future when the rewards of my labor are removed from your site without any reason.

Please advise as to several pieces of content that were all removed simultaneously from your site or I cannot waste time writing for no reason.

Regards, —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.119.250.115 (talk) 20:04, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
 * They were removed for being spam for some product and/or as non-notable or self-published alt-med content, full of non-dispassionate statements. I support those removals on those grounds. See WP:RS, WP:TONE/WP:NPOV, and WP:UNDUE/WP:FRINGE. DMacks (talk) 20:15, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
 * They were removed for being spam for some product and/or as non-notable or self-published alt-med content, full of non-dispassionate statements. I support those removals on those grounds. See WP:RS, WP:TONE/WP:NPOV, and WP:UNDUE/WP:FRINGE. DMacks (talk) 20:15, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Cleaning up after an AfD
The author of a some new software created an article about it on Wikipedia, and also inserted text and sections about it into 10 or so other articles. The article was recently deleted as non-notable under this Articles for Deletion result. Based on that outcome, and in agreement with other editors including an admin, I've offered to undertake the task of going through those multiple articles and deleting mention of the software. ( This should be entirely non-controversial. ) For reasons I won't try to explain here, that will be a manual process, rather than a simple revert, in most cases. With that background, I have two questions:

(1) Is some bot going to come along after my manual deletions and revert my "section blanking" of multiple articles as vandalism?

(2) Is the link I gave above to the AfD results, viz. Articles_for_deletion/Fastflow_%28computing%29 a stable one that I can use in my edit summaries, or do the results roll off to some other archive location at some point?

Thanks, –  OhioStandard  (talk) 21:10, 12 September 2010 (UTC)


 * (1)No, by now I'm sure you're on all the anti-vandalism bots' white lists.
 * (2)Yes, it's a stable link. It's a separate page, so it won't be archived somewhere else. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:43, 12 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Floquenbeam! I was pretty sure about (2), but (1) just makes me feel all warm inside: to be trusted by all those bots! ;-) –  OhioStandard  (talk) 22:23, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

How do I get an Admin to reveiw image I uploaded here from Flicker?
I have never done this before. Weaponbb7 (talk) 23:03, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
 * We don't have a procedure for that here. The reason is that we actually encourage you to upload free images (like the one you uploaded here) to commons, where it will be accessible on all the major wiki-projects, including this one. There you can use the tag, and a trusted user will mark it. Once you've done that, you can simply mark the image with  and it will be deleted here. Magog the Ogre (talk) 23:08, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
 * OK I knew there was a tag that i was supposed to mark it with. ThanxWeaponbb7 (talk) 23:10, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Pictures to add
I have some relevant pictures that I would like to contribute to "Ich Bin Ein Berliner". I made the photos while in Berlin serving in the USAF. PR 23:36, 12 September 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by ZERO13 (talk • contribs)
 * If you want to add an existing image to an article, add  to the area of the article where you want the image to appear – replacing   with the actual file name of the image, and   with a short description of the image. See our picture tutorial for more information.
 * If you want to upload an image from your computer for use in an article, you must determine the proper license of the image (or whether it is in the public domain). If you know the image is public domain or copyrighted but under a suitable free-license, upload it to the Wikimedia Commons instead of here, so that all projects have access to the image (sign up). If you are unsure of the licensing status, see the file upload wizard for more information. Please also read Wikipedia's image use policy. I hope this helps. TN X Man  01:06, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
 * If you want to upload an image from your computer for use in an article, you must determine the proper license of the image (or whether it is in the public domain). If you know the image is public domain or copyrighted but under a suitable free-license, upload it to the Wikimedia Commons instead of here, so that all projects have access to the image (sign up). If you are unsure of the licensing status, see the file upload wizard for more information. Please also read Wikipedia's image use policy. I hope this helps. TN X Man  01:06, 13 September 2010 (UTC)