Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2010 September 2

= September 2 =

Is the subject of VEDIC ASTROLOGY approved by UGC.
Please intimate which institution in India or abroad recognises study of VEDIC ASTROLOGY so that I may approach them for learning this great ancient scince of India. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.178.55.253 (talk) 02:55, 2 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Have you tried asking at the Humanities reference desk? -- Jayron  32  03:45, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Although you should be asking future questions on the Humanities reference desk, here's a link to one of the Indian government bodies that provides details on a few such course. In the future, feel free to write back on this particular help desk for questions on how to use Wikipedia. Warm regards.  ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪    ―Œ  ♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣  04:48, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Language to Language translation
How do I activate the instant translation capability within Wikipedia such that when I am reading an article in one language I can use the cursor to see a translation, into a different language, of a word with which I am not familiar, eg: German to English?204.115.94.55 (talk) 06:17, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't believe there is such a capability for anonymous users. You may use either Google Translate or create an account and enable GoogleTrans in your Preferences under "Browsing gadgets". I would advise using Google Translate since no registration is required and it requires less hassle. Protector of Wiki (talk) 06:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)


 * You can also switch to Google chrome as your browser. It autmatically recognizes foreign languages and ask you if you want to translate using google translate.   GB  fan  07:18, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

On Wikipedia, A< / math > does not render as expected
On my system, the "A" in $$A^*$$ renders as slanted and serifed, as expected: "$$A^*$$" ( $$A^*$$ ) looks like "$A^{ *}$" ( $A^{ *}$ ).

However, $$A$$ unexpectedly renders as an upright, sans-serif "A": "$$A$$" ( $$A$$ ) looks like "A" ( A ).

When I try the same on http://meta.wikimedia.org, " $$A$$ " looks like "$A$" ( $A$ ), as expected it renders as slanted and serifed.

The issue occurs for simple formulae like "A", "xy" or "AB=CD". For more complex formulae like "A*", the issue is not present.

As far as I can see, Wikipedia does not work as expected here. Why is this so? Can this be fixed? How? --RainerBlome (talk) 10:17, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * All the As look the same to me. Have you changed your user preferences at all? - Jarry1250 [Humorous? Discuss.] 10:29, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Good question. Yes, I have set "Appearance -> Math" to "MathML if possible (experimental)". And indeed, when I switch to "Recommended for modern browsers", it works, $$A$$ yields the expected slanted, serifed "A". On http://meta.wikimedia.org, it worked because my MathML preference was not set there. Since my browser correctly displays a MathML test page, it appears that the HTML source is not generated correctly with the MathML setting. Thanks for your help. --RainerBlome (talk) 11:32, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Chamber Orchestra of Europe page
Dear Sir or Madam,

A while ago, I updated extensively the Wikipedia page for the Chamber Orchestra of Europe, as I am their Marketing and PR manager (cf. www.coeurope.org). However, these changes seem to have been cancelled and the page reverted to the former text on 21st august at 00:09. Please could you let me know what happened and please could you make sure that the COE page reverts back to how I had changed it?

May thanks.

Kind regards,

Coralia Galtier —Preceding unsigned comment added by COEurope (talk • contribs) 14:28, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi COEurope, I have left you a detailed reply on your user talk page. Thanks! Arakunem Talk 17:02, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Domjur
I wish to know whether "DOMJUR" constitutes part of Kolkata Metropolitan Area (KMA). Please inform me at:. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.184.126.196 (talk) 17:54, 2 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Symbol move vote.svg Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. But note that we will not do your homework for you. – ukexpat (talk) 18:53, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * We have a Domjur article and a Kolkata metropolitan area article = perhaps one of those would help you to work this out? --  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 20:00, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Good sockpuppets
What should an admin do in this situation? A user is a vandal. He is blocked. He creates a sockpuppet. The sockpuppet does not do any vandal edits but instead accumulates a large number of good edits. A checkuser discovers he is a sockpuppet. Should he be blocked? --Chemicalinterest (talk) 17:39, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * If a user is making good edits, why would a checkuser investigate them? Also, if the sock has had time to accumulate a large amount of edits, any technical data that may have tied them to the original account may have expired. TN X Man  19:35, 2 September 2010 (UTC)


 * You might find Standard offer interesting - fundamentally if a user comes back from a blocked account as a good editor then that's fine (ie to the extent that they are unrecognisable eg Comment on content, not on the contributor). The "standard offer" doesn't have to be made explicitly. However if the editor has a good-cop, bad-cop account thing going on that could be problematic - it depends if the editor has only one account and they are doing nothing wrong with it I would guess every sane person would let them get on with it.Sf5xeplus (talk) 21:56, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Compare to simple:WP:Simple talk. --Chemicalinterest (talk) 01:12, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * It should be noted that WP:CLEANSTART covers the issue. If the user is a long term abuser of Wikipedia (Grawp on Wheels, if you will), then a clean start would likely not be accepted.  However, if a user vandalized a few articles one day, got blocked, then started a new account and never vandalized again, it likely a) would never be noticed or b) if it was, would be considered a legitimate clean start.  There are vandals, and there are VANDALS if you know what I mean, and we deal with them in very different ways.  -- Jayron  32  04:07, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Irina Shayk
Irina Shayk (real name Shaykhlislamova), sometimes credited as Irina Sheik, was born on Jan 6 1986 (in Eastern Church it's the Christmas Eve) in a small town called Emanzhelisk, it's in Ural, 50 km from  Сhelyabinsk.

As a schoolgirl, she liked literature, and most of all she liked making up stories and reading and at that time she wanted to become a teacher of literature when she grows up. At teen-age her appearance was very exotic for her small home town. Her classmates often made fun of her as she looked so different from all the other girls.

Irina's mother was a teacher of music in a kindergarten and she wanted her daughter to study music as well. When Irina was 9 years old she entered a music school and studied there for 7 years. She was singing in a choir and playing piano. Irina’s father was a coalminer and he died when Irina was a schoolgirl. Irina’s mother had to work at 2 jobs to provide for the family (Irina and her elder sister Tatiana) it was a very difficult time for the family but mother and daughters were always helping each other. When Irina finished school they moved to a bigger town. Irina started studying marketing, but it was pretty boring and by pure chance (her mother saw an ad on a bus stop) she came to the local beauty school accompanying her elder sister. When the girls came to this school by another pure chance a person from a local model agency (situated next door to the beauty school) noticed Irina and was struck by her unusual beauty. Right away Irina was proposed to participate in a beauty contest "miss Chelyabinsk 2004". Irina never thought of a career of a model and it was a total surprise for her when she won the contest and became miss Chelyabinsk. She was noticed by a scout Guia Jikidze (he also found Natalia Vodianova, Eugenia Volodina, Polina Kuklina, Elena Melnik, Olga Sherer and many others), and he told Irina that she should become a model and start modeling in Europe, and in 2005 she came to Paris. She started her career pretty late, at the age of 19. In the beginning it was very difficult for her, as she didn't speak English at all and everything was new but soon Irina was working in Europe and in USA and felt at ease during the most complicated shootings. In 2007 Irina became the face of Intimissimi lingerie, taking over from Ana Beatriz Barros and she was making this campaign for 3 years in a row, being perfect for it with her body of a goddess and Mediterranean looks. She also starred in an Intimissimi commercial photographed by Greg Cadel  in 2009.

The same year Irina  got international recognition when she appeared in the prestigious Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition of 2007. The location for the photographs and video in this edition was the White Stallion Ranch in Tuscon, Arizona. Irina Shayk, her skimpy lingerie dwarfed by the cowboy hat, workers gloves and a bullwhip became a real sensation. Since 2007 she appears every year in Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition, working with such world wide known photographers as Pamela Hanson, Steve Erle, Riccardo Tinelli, Rennio Maifredi and Raphael Mazucco and shooting in the most beautiful places such as St Petersburg, Naples a, Grenada and Chile.

Since 2007 Irina’s work has been featured in major ad campaigns for La Perla (ph. Maifredi), Lacoste, Paciotti 4US (ph Mariano Vivanco), Guess (ph. Yu Tsai, Bryan Adams), Germaine de Capuccini (ph Rafa Gallar), Beach Bunny (ph. Yu Tsai) and Armani Exchange (ph Matthew Scrivens).

She was a “Guess Girl” for 3 seasons, embodying its philosophy “Sophisticated. Feminine. Unapologetically sexy.”

In 2010 Irina became a face of Armani Exchange spring-summer campaign photographed by Matthew Scrivens.

She appeared in such fashion magazines as V magazine, Italian Spanish and Russian Elle, Italian Vanity Fair, Russian Jalouse, View of the times, Woman, French Marie Claire, GQ france, spain, Paris Capitale, German Glamour.

The world’s best photographers were working with Irina and admired her beauty and talent: Mariano Vivanco, Peter Beard, Vincent Peters, Tesh, Yu Tsai, Bettina Rheims, Raphael Mazucco, Rafa Gallar, Pamela Hanson, Txema Yeste, Ranjit Grewal, Michael Schultz, Kenneth Willardt, Steve Earle, Riccardo Tinelli, Matt Jones, James Macari and many others.

In 2008 Irina appeared in a promotion for the Ryan Leslie single Diamond Girl, and she inspired Ryan for producing a song “I-R-I-N-A”.

Irina’s sensual beauty was featured in in Bettina Rheims’ exhibition “Just like a woman”.

In 2009 when Irina became the face of Beach Bunny swimwear she made her own design of 2 swimsuts. "Because of my job I have had the opportunity to try on and model thousands of swimsuits. I think that I can design practical and beautiful swimsuits that can be worn by any woman who wants to feel sexy and confident."- says Irina. Her swimsuits have been shot for 2010

Sports Illustrated swimwear issue. She was chosen by a famous make up artist Scott Barnes as a model for his book “About Face” which was out in 2010.

Irina was photographed by Peter Beard for his latest book that is out in 2010.

2010 was very important year for Irina – she was on the cover of GQ SA which had a great success, Ocean Drive magazine and had a beautiful shoot for GQ USA. Irina received a lot of attention from press all over the world.

Kanye West invited her for the main part in his project “Power” directed by artist Marco Brambilla.

In 2010 Irina became the ambassador for Intimissimi.

The same year Irina started her charity projects. She always wanted to help children and she is helping a maternity hospital in my home town. The hospital was in a very poor condition and Irina provided money for its renovation and also bought some stuff for abandoned children like furniture, food, diapers. She has several other charity projects and she wants to do my best to help children - in Russia there are a lot of families that can't afford paying the costly medical treatment for their children and Irina wants to draw attention to the problems of such families and help collecting donations for them.

Irina’s magnificent body and emerald-green eyes won her the place in many prestigious top rankings. She is the 18th in 20 sexiest models on models.com and the 57th in 100 hottest supermodels on zimbio.com.

Irina is very attached to her family which lives in Russia and adores her little niece Irina who was named after her.

Irina travels a lot but she resides in NY.

She loves animals and has a pet dog Cesare. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.108.154.27 (talk) 19:32, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
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 * Wikipedia already has an article on Irina Shayk (the page was created in February 2007). Haploidavey (talk) 23:14, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Authorization to copy the abstracts from a Journal. How should I manage this information.
I received the authorization from the editor of the "Journal of Medical Biography" to copy (with a reference) the abstracts of his journal to WP:

From: M Richardson To: User:Plindenbaum Thank you for your enquiry about reproducing Royal Society of Medicine Press Ltd copyright material from the Journal of Medical Biography in  items for wikipedia. We are happy for you to reproduce abstracts from this journal, provided that a suitable form of acknowledgment is given linking them in each case to the source, together with the line, 'reproduced by permission of  The Royal Society of Medicine Press Ltd'. Unfortunately we are unable to give permission for you to upload any pictures or fuller text content. I hope this answers your question.


 * if I get the same kind of authorization from some other academic journals, where should I store this information ?
 * if possible, is there a way to avoid the bots to flag the pages as copyvio ?

Thanks, --Plindenbaum (talk) 20:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Follow the procedure set out at WP:IOWN to send the permissions to OTRS. Once received and confirmed, the talk page(s) of the relevant article(s) will be tagged accordingly. Note, however, that permission to use only on Wikipedia is insufficient. There is no mechanism to "store" the material anywhere on Wikipedia. If you are merely citing the journal it must be verifiable, so use of a proper citation template, in this case Cite journal is recommended. – ukexpat (talk) 20:14, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks!--Plindenbaum (talk) 20:22, 2 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Where would you use such information? I can't think of any situation where you'd need to cut and paste the whole abstract of an article? --Cameron Scott (talk) 20:51, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * @Gameron, you're right, but sometimes an abstract can be a good source to start an article. e.g: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17153285 --Plindenbaum (talk) 21:01, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Image file won't revert
I'm trying to revert the following image file File:DSC02747.JPG to it's original image, so I can split it, rename both versions, and move them to the commons, but every time I try to revert to the old version, it keeps going back to the new one, and I can't remove the errant revisions. Can somebody fix this problem? DanTD (talk) 22:13, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * On my computer, it's showing the older version rather than the newer version - I'm seeing the Phil-hong version of the image rather than the IRT.BMT.IND one (all 4 of your reverts seemed to have worked from what I can see!) --  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 22:20, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Unfortunatley, none of them did. All the attempted reverts put the one by IRT.BMT.IND on top, and the three other times I tried to revert it, the one by Phil.hong came before that. DanTD (talk) 22:33, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * UPDATE - Hmm. Suddenly it went back to the original. Something must've changed. DanTD (talk) 23:04, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Current fundraiser
Hi. Where can I find documentation and statistics regarding this year's fundraiser? Cheers, Randomblue (talk) 23:19, 2 September 2010 (UTC).
 * Please see Fundraising 2010 and the many links off of that page. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:27, 2 September 2010 (UTC)