Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2010 September 29

= September 29 =

Last Updated
Wikipedia entries should have a "Last Updated" at the top of the page so you know if you are reading two year old information about a current subject. Some of the stuff hasn't been updated in awhile and this would give readers a better way to know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.81.40.145 (talk) 00:46, 29 September 2010 (UTC)


 * The bottom of pages say "This page was last modified on ...". However, it may have been any edit, for example correcting a spelling error or reverting vandalism. There are around 3.5 million articles and unfortunately we don't have resources to keep all of them up to date. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:51, 29 September 2010 (UTC)


 * One of the best ways to check out when and how an article was last updated is to simply look at an article's history. Simply click on the "history" tab at the top of the page to access it; here, you will find all the edits made to the article in the course of history, with the latest appearing at the top. You can look at what changed in specific edits by looking at their diffs, too. ~Super Hamster  Talk Contribs 03:28, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Uploading copyright protected image as an unconfirmed user
Could you please post the instructions how to upload the file as an unconfirmed user? I would like to upload a logo File:SCWISTlogo.gif for this non-profit organization: SCWIST and have very difficult time with it. I tried on Wikipedia commons but they took the image off because it is protected and the licence belongs to SCWIST. I also tried to post a request at Files for upload but I cannot find my request anymore. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gpeji (talk • contribs) 05:38, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Simply put, you cannot upload until you become autoconfirmed. This happens automagically after 4 days and ten edits.  You have been here for several months, but as of now, you have 9 edits.  If you make one more edit, to anything, including this page confirming you understand what I just said, you will be autoconfirmed, and should be able to upload.  -- Jayron  32  06:13, 29 September 2010 (UTC)


 * And even when it is uploaded, as it is a copyrighted image, it can only be used with an appropriate non-free use rationale, see WP:LOGOS. This means that you must add the Logo fur template to the image, filling in all the required fields (see the template documentation) and tag the image with the non-free logo notice. – ukexpat (talk) 14:44, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the update.

photo usage or download
I cant find how to download buddha foto at buddha. I hav tried all. Kindly help me. E mail-. If u answer via e mail, it would be better. Thanks. Mukesh. —Preceding unsigned comment added by V8870 (talk • contribs) 05:39, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I have removed your email. As you were told in big red letters when you posted here, please do not provide email, as answers will be given here.  Generally, in most browsers, images can be downloaded by "right clicking" on the image and selecting "save image" from the menu that comes up.  Without knowing which browser you have, it is impossible to know how you should do it.  -- Jayron  32  05:55, 29 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Just in case you are unsure of the terminology, download means to copy an image from Wikipedia to your own computer. Upload means to copy an image from your own computer to Wikipedia. Is it really a download you want to make? In that case, left click on the image first to get to an image page which often has a better quality version of the image. If you still have problems then what is the image name? PrimeHunter (talk) 12:31, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Need help with picture formatting on article...
For the past month, I've been working on the Bartow, Florida article and I think I've improved it substantially(see last edit before I started editing it here ). I've added a bunch of images(spent a lot of time finding images on commons, on the internet which were free(per Wikipedia policy) or public domain(published before 1923). I'd like to eventually get this article up to FA and know I have some work to do to get there. The problem I am having right now is I just read on some GA review page that a picture should not be on the left side at the start of a subsection(one which starts with "==="). I didn't know that when I put the most recent couple of pictures in and although I like the selection of pictures, I can't seem to change things around without "breaking" the formatting of the article.

I guess what I need is help from someone who has the time and some knowledge of technical issues (especially pictures) who can help me place the pictures in the right place. What I'd like to "see" is the Jacob Summerlin picture moved down without messing up the rest of the pictures and text formatting. Of course, having a fresh set of eyes, you might find a better place for some of the pictures and feel free to do what looks right to you. I'm using a netbook and I know my screen resolution is odd so my "view" of the page might be skewed by my resolution of the monitor anyway. Also any help or advice on the article itself would be great. I won't get hurt if someone decides to help me edit it- I've been pretty much the only person to edit the article in the past 230 edits so a fresh view from someone else would be helpful even if you can't help out with the images. Thanks in advance. VictorianMutant (talk) 09:09, 29 September 2010 (UTC)


 * A couple of suggestions - try reducing the thumbnail sizes a little, that may help get the images to display where you want them without creating layout problems. If the problem is "bunching of edit links", the Fix bunching template can fix that. If neither of these suggestions helps, please describe the layout issues in a little more detail here or on my talk page. – ukexpat (talk) 14:38, 29 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Incidentally, MOS:IMAGES no longer says that images should not be on the left hand side immediately after a sub-section. It used to say that, but the language has been changed.  BencherliteTalk 14:42, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Nominating Articles for Deletion (Step III)
I just nominated Society for Canadian Women in Science and Technology for deletion and followed (or tried to follow) the instructions at Articles for deletion. I did Steps I and II, but Step III made no sense as it seemed that Step II had already accomplished Step III. Anyway, I didn't do Step III, but I'm not sure if I missed something.--Bbb23 (talk) 09:41, 29 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I think you did step III with this edit -- John of Reading (talk) 10:22, 29 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I think I accomplished Step III with that edit, but I did it as part of Step II (following the first part of the OR instructions in Step II).--Bbb23 (talk) 23:54, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Move images from Wikipedia to Commons
How do I move five images from Wikipedia to the Commons, where they will find companionship with dozens of similar images I've directly uploaded there? --Lou Sander (talk) 10:19, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Please follow the instructions at Moving images to the Commons.-Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:01, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

A Portal Page for the Confederate States
I'm wondering what is the criteria for creating a Portal Page and can anyone create a portal page or does it have to be created by a Syops?-- CC Proctor]], Jesus Saves! 12:22, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * There is currently no portal for the Confederacy. There is, however, a portal for the Civil War. Does that page have the info which you need? You may also find WP:Portal useful. TN X Man  13:54, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I wasn't looking for anything per se, but I thought it might be beneficial to have a portal that deals with things not related to the War. I've come across a substantial amount of information about the Confederacy in general, which could possibly be for use in a portal page. Too much about that period is thrown into the War category, when there was so much more about the Confederacy than just that. So what I'm wanting to know is... by what criteria or format is there for a portal page?-- CC Proctor]], Jesus Saves! 14:56, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * See WP:Portal guidelines generally, in particular: "A portal helps to browse on a particular subject, hence the subject of a portal should be broad so that it presents a diversified content. The portal subject area should have enough interest and articles to sustain a portal, including enough quality content articles above a Start-class to sustain the featured content section. To aid in this, the portal should be associated with a WikiProject to help ensure a supply of new material for the portal. The portal layout should be complete or there should be ongoing efforts to make the portal layout complete. The portal should be maintained and serve a useful purpose. Portals should not be a vehicle for advocacy or advertisement, should not have too many red links, should not be redundant of another portal, should not cover too narrow a scope, and should not be inherently POV. "
 * Looking further ahead, there may be little point in creating a portal that wouldn't pass the WP:Featured portal criteria, particularly this one: "It covers a topic that is broad and interesting. Portals that cover minor topic areas are less useful, because their content is limited. A featured portal covers an area that is sufficiently broad and prominent to justify it as an entry-point. Because portals promote the best of Wikipedia's content, a featured portal is selective in what it displays. It showcases only high-quality content that is preferably already featured."
 * Hope this helps, BencherliteTalk 16:04, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you, it does.-- CC Proctor, O.B.A.M.A. (One Big Awful Mistake America) 16:23, 29 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Please change your signature - it is disruptive, this is not fark.com. – ukexpat (talk) 16:47, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Anyone can create a portal, but I'd strongly advise against creating a portal that would add little if anything to the Civil War portal, which is a Featured Portal already. (Tnxman, I took the liberty of fixing the dab link to Confederacy, hope you don't mind). BencherliteTalk 14:24, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Perhaps a portal called Portal:American South would be broad enough and would, of course, cover CSA topics. VictorianMutant (talk) 23:20, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Help with english
Hi. I´m looking for an article about the cloth of the driver´s agains fire, but I can´t find it because I dont know the name in english. Can someone help me? Thanks. --Andreateletrabajo (talk) 14:50, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not quite sure of the article for which you are looking. Is there something in Fireproofing or asbestos that matches what you need? If not, post here again and we may be able to help you. TN X Man  14:57, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * This page is only for questions about using Wikipedia, not for general knowledge questions. If you have any factual questions, please use the search box or post them on the Reference desk at WP:RD. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  14:59, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Cloth used in a NASCAR Driver's suit consists of many types of cloth used in a particular structure. Some of the types cloth used are: glass fiber yarn, Polyester fiber/filament, Polyamide fiber/filament/wool, Modacrylic, Viscose FR, PVC FR, Meta-Aramid and Para-Aramid. These types of cloth used in combinations comprise Fire Retardant or Flame Resistent cloth.-- Avazina, Jesus Saves! 15:08, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * finds several related links such as Nomex, Aramid, History of Formula One regulations, List of fire-retardant materials, etc. --Teratornis (talk) 17:50, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Jimi Hendrix - Grammatical correction
I just want report that someone should look at Jimi Hendrix "Early Life" section under Biography, 2nd paragraph, End of the 3rd Line. "Unusually for his era, Hendrix's high school..."

I'm pretty certain it should read "Unusual for his era..."

I could not figure out where to report.```` —Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.239.19.30 (talk) 16:31, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I've fixed it - thank you for catching that! In the future, you can report mistakes on semi-protected pages either here or on the article's discussion page. TN X Man  16:43, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Mobile version
Is Wikipedia Mobile Server having issues today, 9/29/2010? When looking at pages on iPhone they are not appearing in the Mobile format. IatroDoc (talk) 18:03, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

IatroDoc (talk) 18:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Citation Needed
Please advise how to provide a missing citation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.148.148.207 (talk) 18:35, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * To fill in a citation, you generally need to find a independent reliable source that can be used to support a claim in an article. Actually citing the source varies depending on what type of source it is - there is a list on this page. TN X Man  18:45, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Wall Tab
I am connected to a relitive and when I click on the profile page her Wall Tab is not there. I can see her photo's and other tabs. Why is this and what can I do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.174.187.10 (talk) 18:45, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. TN X Man  18:50, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Problem with userboxes
Hi. Can someone please take a look at my userbox section and tell me why it doesn't look like the source? Since I am sure you guys are much better with code than I am feel free to edit either my userpage or my userboxes to make it work. Thanks, --The High Fin Sperm Whale 18:57, 29 September 2010 (UTC)


 * There are open div's before transcluding the userboxes. I'm not sure which design you want but you can place   before the transclusion. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:34, 29 September 2010 (UTC)


 * That sort of fixes it, but now, as you can see, there is another problem. And anyone who knows what to do please just go ahead and fix it. --The High Fin Sperm Whale 02:41, 30 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Does and  do what you want? PrimeHunter (talk) 14:17, 30 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, exactly! Thank you. --The High Fin Sperm Whale 17:40, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

SECRET OF SEX
WHAT HAPPENS INSIDE THE BODY OF A YOUTH GIRL WHEN SHE SEES A YOUNG NAKED BOY AND VICE VERSA ?

WHAT HAPPENS FROM COLLISION OF EYES BETWEEN BOY AND GIRL ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.99.58.125 (talk) 19:20, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * If wikipedians knew the answers to those questions, do you think they would still be hanging around wikipedia? :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 02:29, 30 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't think help desk is the right place to seek answer for such questions. Per page notice, "This page is only for questions about using Wikipedia, not for general knowledge questions". DARTH SIDIOUS 2 (Contact) 19:31, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Love at first sight is a common trope in Western literature, in which a person, character, or speaker feels romantic attraction for a stranger on the first sight of them. Elaborated upon by poets and critics from the Greek world on, it has become one of the most powerful tropes in Western fiction. It is also considered "The most powerful type of Love".--88.110.100.193 (talk) 19:34, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Incorrect Google Search result
I recently requested that the heading of my published article be changed, because it contained a lower case letter where there should've been a capital. That issue has been resolved, and the heading is correct, but the results in Google are still incorrect. More specifically, when you Google 'Zions Bank', the results show a an entry for 'Zions bank' (which has been removed) and not 'Zions Bank'. Is there a way to fix this? Any info is appreciated! Thank you! GiovanniPaush (talk) 19:32, 29 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Google will see the new name when its web crawler gets round to looking at this part of Wikipedia. Until then, it will show out-of-date results. This is outside Wikipedia's control, so you will just have to be patient. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:40, 29 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, click "Cached" on the Google search results page to see when Google indexed the page. It is currently a few hours before the move September 24. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:39, 29 September 2010 (UTC)