Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2010 September 8

= September 8 =

New testament entries vandalized
Hello, Although I've read the instuctions I cannot seem to revert a message, and report a vandal. It seems that the majority of wikipedia entries for the new testament books of the Bible have been vandalized (at least Matt, Mark, Luke, John and the epistles, I stopped checking at that point).

Could someone revert the article and report the vandal.

Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.181.43.163 (talk) 01:04, 8 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Please be more specific about the problem another time. After some searching I guess you refer to this edit to a template that is transcluded on many pages about the New Testament. It has been reverted, the template has been semi-protected and the vandal has been warned. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:27, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Linking a locator map image to a
I created an article last year, Canada–Mali relations.

It begins with the standard template:

This automatically displays the flags of the two nations in the upper right corner of the page, followed normally by a world map in which the locations of the two countries are shaded. However, I did not create such a map, and therefore it read at that point the text: "Map indicating location of Canada and Mali"

Only today did I create a Canada Mali Locator map, and uploaded it to WikiMedia Commons.

But it doesn't display on the page. What am I doing wrong?

IVX8O8XVI (talk) 01:45, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I see on the page now. Perhaps there was some lag; there's not really much you can do about this, aside from purging the cache and waiting for a while. Intelligent  sium  01:50, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

3rd Party insight on Arrow keys addition
I just noticed a earlier today that the leader of a game clan I am a part of has added a snippet of text to Arrow keys (it's supposedly the reason the group was founded), and I personally think that it needs some definite work (assuming it can be saved in the first place). Here's the specific diff for the text added (the rev before this one was his as well).The leader himself is a bit weird, but what he put into the page was even weirder. Call me on not having enough cajones if you want, but I don't want to edit it myself and PO the group leader, or get slammed here for putting in slanted information on the account of it being a COI. I would be willing to provide as much information as I can get ahold of to anyone willing to rewrite the snippet of text to be of Wikipedia-Quality. Hmmwhatsthisdo (talk) 03:18, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Are you referring to and the influences of Professional™ influence™ and the ominous Vedge™ at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arrow_keys&diff=prev&oldid=378478708 ? GeorgeLouis (talk) 17:44, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

How to change title
This article should be titled The Goodlife Recipe per the manufacturer. I have made the changes to the article but I'm not sure what the best procedure would be to change the articles title. [] Buster7 (talk) 03:38, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I have moved the article to the better title. I couldn't even find a source that used the CamelCase spelling.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:52, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

category link from article stops working
hi I am v new to this. Have created an article with category boxes and it works I.e. it takes you to category page and article is listed. Then without any edit taking place,next day, category in article takes you to category page but article not listed. Fixed by any minor edit but a nuisance. Where am I going wrong? Thank you. Dave —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dave Atcathedral (talk • contribs) 09:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Which category are you referring to? I see Cathedral School, Wakefield in all its categories. Maybe you have to bypass your cache on the category page. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:38, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Article reverted again
I have been working on improving the article Baloch people since many days, It had some issues before but I believe I fixed all of them. But now the article has been reverted again to the previous version by another editor. Why is this happening again and again? Even though I fixed everything and also the previous article had many inaccuracies. I also mentioned my reasons to revise the article. BalochMedia (talk) 09:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Explained on the article's talk page. It wasn't fair that your edits were called vandalism, but there were several problems with your edits. At this point it's a content dispute and the article talk page is the place to figure this one out. P. D. Cook  Talk to me! 11:52, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

website
hi i set up a website up and do i need a security code to actavate the site —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.130.146.138 (talk) 09:23, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Hello. Where is the site hosted? What computer language is it written in? What is the problem you are seeing that makes you think you need to have a security code to activate it? I know nothing about this subject, and this question should be asked not here but at the computing section of the reference desk, but I think you are more likely to get an answer when you re-ask there, if you provide a far more specific explanation of the problem and pertinent details about the site, such as providing the information sought in my questions.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:30, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol move vote.svg|20px]] This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try  for an article related to the topic you want to know more about.  I hope this helps.  A p 3 rson  ‽   23:24, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * You realize that I already directed the person to the reference desk, and to the proper section, in a tailored message?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:43, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
 * It's OK if he is directed twice. No harm, no foul. Sincerely, your friend, GeorgeLouis (talk) 17:52, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Multiple books
How can I create more than one book using book creator? Frank Frink (talk) 10:29, 8 September 2010 (UTC)


 * When your account becomes autoconfirmed you can save books. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:40, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Logo uploaded twice
hi, asking for help: i erroneously uploaded the United Festivals logo twice. could you possibly delete one of the two files? they are exactly the same. thanx! Dr. mullah (talk) 10:35, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * It's done. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:22, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * thank you. cheers to you! Dr. mullah (talk) 14:39, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

French Wikipedia
In the French Wikipedia there is an article called "House Francois Coignet". I would like to use the house ruins pictures in the English Wikipedia article François Coignet, however it wouldn't let me. Tried to become a new User, and again it wouldn't let me. How can I get those pictures?--Doug Coldwell talk 12:40, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Solved the problem - had to go to their Commons. Thanks though.--Doug Coldwell talk 12:55, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * For future reference, see Moving images to the Commons. --Teratornis (talk) 23:46, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Lost faith
Hi, I have a two request and I sincerely hope that Wikipedia have least one administrator who truly want to help, because so far no one wanted, but I will try the last time. The first request is to delete my revisions in history of file. The second request is also something to be deleted. It is from my Upload log page File:Clash2010Soundtrack.jpg, in list are two this files and they was deleted by my request, but now I want to be deleted from list, and I know that it can be removed definitely. I only want to be deleted from list, only these two file, no whole list. It upset me horribly because it is a huge mistake that I can't even see or think about it. So if Wikipedia has administrators who truly want to help users, I hope that when the next time I come to Wikipedia that this request will be truly done, not to be answered that it can't be done and similar things, and that I will normally be able to continue editing in Wikipedia. Thanks in advance. - Corey.7.11.1992 (talk) 14:22, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * As noted above, I'm not sure there is anything that can be done. I don't think the logs can be changed, and I don't see anything in your edits that would warrant history deletion. It looks like a combination of learning the ropes and maybe a little silly vandalism. I would suggest just moving on take this as a lesson learned. P. D. Cook  Talk to me! 14:36, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, as noted on your talk page, deleting things from histories will probably raise even more questions. P. D. Cook  Talk to me! 14:38, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * (after edit conflict) What you've requested can technically be done, but it won't be done by me (nor, I imagine, by other administrators) because of the limits of Revision deletion. Administrators don't use the powerful tool of deleting selected revisions of an article's or file' s history, or log entries, for trivial reasons such as "I admit that I was doing rubbish" or "I made a mistake" (phrases you've used on your talk page). The only circumstances in which such actions could be taken are set out at REVDEL - your request falls a long way short.  If I was to do what you wanted, I risk being desysopped for misuse of the tools.  BencherliteTalk 14:39, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

How, then, could be deleted. Maybe a month ago I asked one administrator that delete files that I was sent there because I explained that there is no need for them to be there, and he is deleted and files and history, and left only one file. Is it then possible that the same be done with this file, to delete the current file that is there with history and to leave only the first who is uploaded. I guess at least it is possible to do so, and that there will be no problem. - Corey.7.11.1992 (talk) 15:12, 8 September 2010 (UTC)


 * No. On another matter, are you also editing as ? The similarity in language here is noticeable, as are the similar userboxes and the fact that InfamousPrince requested as "db-author" of one of your files.  If so, why? BencherliteTalk 15:32, 8 September 2010 (UTC)


 * He's asked for his user and talk pages to be deleted ". Reason for deletion is that I have another user page, so I don't want this no more."., Dougweller (talk) 16:41, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it is true. I have two user pages, I create the second because I was wanted to delete the first, but now I don't want that. Reason for deleting the first is that I was learning with him, and I was making a lot stupid thing, and someone told me that no one pays attention to the mistakes I made, but the problem is that I am paying attention and it annoys me. And because these mistakes can not be deleted, I decided to delete it completely, but what there is I can not change now, or maybe is prohibited to have two user page. - Corey.7.11.1992 (talk) 17:31, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Personally, I feel sorry for Corey.7.11.1992, but that is just me. I always try to see the human being behind the pixels. Corey, you are appreciated, and I wish you good fortune in continuing to edit for WP. Don't give up. Sincerely, your friend, GeorgeLouis (talk) 17:58, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Can't figure how to delete this article
Mario_Vidal_Fernandez needs to be deleted for several reasons. Notability is the major reason, it's also not sourced. I have searched for info and this is either a hoax or someone promoting their evangelical website. I've read the deletion process information but I can't get it to work. Can anyone else delete the article and then let me know how you did it? Thanks!--HillbillyProfane (talk) 14:59, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I've proposed the article for deletion. You can read more on how this works at WP:PROD. As for actually deleting the article, this can only be done by administrators. TN X Man  15:02, 8 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I have gone one further and tagged it for speedy deletion - I don't see any claims of importance or significance. Claims of speaking to Jesus don't do it for me. – ukexpat (talk) 16:48, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

How do you get people to write a wiki article about a given topic?
How do you get people to write a wiki article about a given topic? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.155.139.249 (talk) 15:11, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Without knowing the specifics of the article in question, I can only point you to requested articles, where people can request editors write an article. If you have a specific topic in mind, there may be a wikiproject that can assist you. TN X Man  15:13, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Or, if you do have material and references ready for an article but would like someone else to put it onto Wikipedia for you, you can ask at articles for creation. (I'm assuming that you want to know about creating an article on Wikipedia itself, and not on some other unrelated wiki.)   Ka renjc 15:58, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Alternatively, if you want to know more about a subject, you can try asking at our reference desk: you may find the topic is already covered in our other articles but, if it isn't, you will hopefully get some sort of an answer to your query. Physchim62 (talk) 16:07, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia suggestion
Where can I send a suggestion to Wikipedia? Here's the thing. When I'm logged out, and I go to my bookmarked watchlist, I'm swept to a page that says "You need to log in". So then I click "Log in" and I get to log in on the next page. This "You need to log in" page would save me oodles of time every day if it didn't exist. I know I need to log in. But why can't the two pages be combined? "You need to log in" with the login/pswd fields directly below? It's just one of those Internet efficiency things that irk me. –  Ker αun oςc op ia◁ galaxies  16:42, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Tip: why don't you just bookmark to the log in page instead of your watchlist? Magog the Ogre (talk) 16:46, 8 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Dear Keraunoscopia, thanks for the suggestion. Kindly leave your comments at the following two links: The bugzilla technical issue reporting site and Wikipedia's user experience feedback page. Write back for any further assistance. Warm regards.  ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪    ―Œ  ♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣  20:38, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Great, thank you, I will! I just realized my section "Wikipedia suggestion" was extremely vague, but thanks for the responses. –  Ker αun oςc op ia◁ galaxies  04:03, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Display
I have a 23 inch 16:9 display, and find that Wikipedia articles are formatted across the entire landscape of the display, which is very difficult to read. I use Windows System 7. Is there any way to narrow the format in order to display articles in something approximating portrait mode? 68.167.70.33 (talk) 17:53, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Internet Explorer has a page zoom function but it doesn't work like you would expect, and seems mostly useless. I recommend installing Firefox, and using its zoom function (Control-+)to enlarge the page until the text is the width you want. DMahalko (talk) 18:09, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think the OP was complaining about size of text, but about the text being spread across too wide an area. Zooming the page won't help with that.  My suggestion would be just to adjust the size and shape of the browser window.  Rojomoke (talk) 18:31, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Referred to by other Wikipedia articles
I have an article "Stock Market Data Systems" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stock_market_data_systems) and would like other articles (e.g. Ticker Tape) to show my article in its "See also" section. How do I do that? I've tried in the first paragraph of my article, but it doesn' seem to work .... —Preceding unsigned comment added by MontyPh (talk • contribs) 19:05, 8 September 2010 (UTC)


 * First, nobody owns any articles on Wikiedia. You don't have an article.  Wikipedia has an article.
 * Just go to the page you want to add a link to and click the Edit tab. Add a link to the section that you want to add the link to. --  k a i n a w &trade; 19:10, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Accessing my account.
This the second time I have been blocked from my account. I have a lot of friends that I know personally & other that I only know there my family & friends. A lot of these people I do not know by name. There is the problem. In trying to access my account I have to ID these people & I am unable to ID all of them. Please can someone help me? I have only one email address. This is the only address I access my Facebook account. Thank You. Leo —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.98.76.119 (talk) 20:27, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * It sounds like your Facebook account was blocked. Please note this is Wikipedia and, more specifically, a help desk for asking questions about using Wikipedia. TN X Man  20:33, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

how do I officially submit an article?
I've created an article on my user page and have no clue how to submit it. Can someone please guide me? Thanks. --infojunkie 22:00, 8 September 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eanimal (talk • contribs)


 * After you've made your tenth edit (you currently have nine), you will actually have an autoconfirmed account, meaning you will be able to move the article right into the mainspace. However, as you're a brand new user, I suggest articles for creation, where someone will actually review a submission you create. The article will then be created, or if not, you will get feedback on what's wrong with the article. Magog the Ogre (talk) 23:08, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Image captions
I'm wondering about the appropriateness of some image captions I saw in an article. I've read through WP:CAP, and it doesn't address my questions. Is there some project or board that specializes in images where I can address my questions? TardyHardy (talk) 22:19, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * There is Manual of Style (captions) but it's talk page is not a very visible and active forum. I know of no other dedicated page but help with Wikipedia issues in general is what we're here for. Why don't you run the issue(s) by us and see if someone can help? Note that captions are subject, like other content, to the neutral point of view policy and others.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:44, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Argonaut Motor Machine Page Author?
Dear Sirs, This is to whom ever wrote the Wikipedia page concerning the Argonaut Motor Machine. My name is Bethany G. Grimes the granddaughter of Richard s. Luntz 1919-2006. He was the inventor of the Argonaut Motor Machine. I would love to speak with you and learn what you know of my grandfather. He was very important to me and I had no idea anyone outside the family knew of him and his legacy. The Luntz family still reside in Ohio, but my Mother Marianne Luntz Grimes passed away and my grandfather died as well soon after. It is very important to me that I speak with you. Please conact me as soon as possible I can be found on Facebook.

Thank you for remembering him.

Sincerely,

Bethany Grimes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.251.186.164 (talk) 22:28, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Please see the history of the article. All the contributors listed on that page made edits to the article. As you can also see, it was created in 2004 by user:Boccherini's Guitar, who has not edited since July 2004, so it's very unlikely he or she would see any message left on his or her talk page. Most other editors listed in the history only made minor additions. Another user who added significant material was User:WQ59B, but he or she only edits sporadically, and has not edited in eight months so that's probably another dead end. None of these editors are likely to see your message here, and even if they did, they aren't very likely to contact you at a different site. However, you can read about the car at various places on the internet: see Google book search results and Google News archive search, as well as this web search which excludes Wikipedia from the results. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:37, 8 September 2010 (UTC)