Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2011 April 11

= April 11 =

Russian Incubator
For our project page we would like to create an 'African Incubator' (like the Russian Incubator). I've tried to get in contact with the creator of the project but I haven't had any luck. Can anyone help me? Riannedac (talk) 11:52, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Citation compatibility with Refworks
I am interested in being able to export Wikipedia citations directly into Refworks. Is there a process for doing this or is there something in the works? Alternatively, I would like Wikipedia to generate a text export of the citation information that I can copy and paste into Refworks for import. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.29.165.212 (talk) 01:42, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Apparently, you can use a plugin called "RefGrab-It" to import Wikipedia citations into RefWorks. See this for more information. Goodvac (talk) 01:51, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Stupid question
Can IPs create new pages in their user space? The Resident Anthropologist (talk)•(contribs) 03:36, 11 April 2011 (UTC)


 * No; users who are not logged in cannot create a page in user namespace. (Which is one of several good reasons why it's best to create a user account)  Chzz  ► 03:40, 11 April 2011 (UTC)


 * The question said "user space". This usually includes User talk, and IP's can create pages in all talk namespaces. However, they cannot create pages in their User namespace which is the one starting with "User:" and doesn't include User talk. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:40, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Whether to create a disambig page or a hatnote
I am having trouble deciding whether to create a disambig page or whether to put a hatnote on the already created article and was wondering whether people can give me some tips. An article has been recently created about a newly elected state politician Chris Patterson (politician). Chris Patterson already exists and is a current professional rally driver.

There is another example where another newly elected state politician Leslie Williams (politician) wand Leslie Williams is a former football player who has passed away. Does it come down to judgement? Thanks U8701 (talk) 06:03, 11 April 2011 (UTC)


 * A Wiki-search on "Chris Patterson" (in quotation marks) gives this, which indicates that a disambiguation page is worthwhile in that case, because there are others with that name - ie, it could have entries such as "Chris Patterson, a member of the UK-based heavy metal group Cronos (band)" (or whatever).


 * Same for "Leslie Williams".


 * If there are only two people with the specific name, then I'd go with hatnote. As there are more than two likely targets in those cases, I'd create a DAB page.  Chzz  ► 06:09, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Wiki-Project Iran simplification
On the WikiProject Iran rating system, giving a "B" to an article is fairly difficult relative to other similar wiki projects. Is there a way to delete the six criterions associated with ranking of B? I have discussed this proposal before and got no objection. But I am not sure how to technically accomplish it and bypass the six requirements checks for a B rating. --Khodabandeh14 (talk) 06:27, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I think you would do this by editing Template:WikiProject Iran and removing a block of twelve lines - beginning at "|HOOK_ASSESS = " . Disclaimer: I haven't tried this! -- John of Reading (talk) 06:59, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. I am not sure what section that is.. I want to get rid of this part: [edit] B-Class checklistThis is available only for unrated articles and articles rated as "Stub-Class", "Start-Class", or "B-Class". See the assessment department for more details.

With any of these classes, the banner will automatically display directions on how to use these parameters.

For an article to qualify for B-class it must meet six criteria. Each one of them has a corresponding banner variable. For each, assign "yes" if the criteria are met, and "no" if not. Leave blank if uncertain.

B-Class-1 – Is the article suitably referenced, and are all major points appropriately cited? B-Class-2 – Does the article reasonably cover the topic, and not contain major omissions or inaccuracies? B-Class-3 – Does the article have a defined structure, including a lead section and one or more sections of content? B-Class-4 – Is the article free from major grammatical errors? B-Class-5 – Does the article contain appropriate supporting materials, such as an infobox, images, or diagrams? B-Class-6 – Does the article present its content in an appropriately accessible way, and explain or avoid technical terms whenever possible?

--Khodabandeh14 (talk) 08:08, 11 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, I can see which bits you want to disable. I'll be happy to make the edit for you, if you can point me to the discussions which show there is an agreement for making the change. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:25, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Upload a Word document
Can I - and if so how? - upload my own text as a Word document, in the process of editing an existing entry?Suesman (talk) 14:03, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
 * There is an add-in that converts Word-text into MediaWiki code, see Help:WordToWiki. Does that help? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 14:10, 11 April 2011 (UTC)


 * That works OK for creating a new article from a Word document, but for editing an existing article, it would be a little more difficult -- you would have to selectively cut and paste the Wiki markup text from the converted Word document into the existing article. – ukexpat (talk) 14:43, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Finding Someone to Make a Wikipedia Page
I'm wanting to create a wikipedia page, but feel uncomfortable making it on my own. I went through the wizard and it meets the qualifications, but would prefer making it with someone who has experience.

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drewkia (talk • contribs) 16:03, 11 April 2011 (UTC)


 * You can either create a draft version in your userspace; how to do that is described at Help:Userspace draft or you can request that someone else create the article. You do that by following the instructions at Requested articles -- Jayron  32  16:05, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
 * What's the page to be about? If it's something that I have some vague knowledge of then I'd be glad to help out. doom gaze   (talk)  16:30, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
 * ditto, as long as its not too technical i can do so too. created many articles before.Lihaas (talk) 12:17, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Can't figure out why Talk:Whittemore Peterson Institute is missing table of contents
Can someone help? Thanks in advance. Ward20 (talk) 20:54, 11 April 2011 (UTC)


 * There are only 3 sections; and a table of contents only automatically appears after the 4th section is added. I have added the magic word  to the page, which forces the TOC to appear regardless of how many sections there are.  -- Jayron  32  21:15, 11 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you. Ward20 (talk) 21:36, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Bad image
I wanted to add a new image from commons here. But there shows some other image, I don't know how it is possible. The image on commons is here: --77.42.157.74 (talk) 21:07, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Go ahead and add it! :) It is a relevant picture, I'd say in the "society" section would be good. C T J F 8 3  21:12, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, I understand now, same name, one second.... C T J F 8 3  21:14, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok, I renamed the electrical wire image, and the children image is on the article now. C T J F 8 3  21:17, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I finished the renaming by pointing the original use to the renamed image. —teb728 t c 23:45, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Reference page on google docs
For the List of Alpha Phi Omega members page, I would like to reference a page for Alpha Phi Omega of the Philippines, but I'm not sure how to do so in a way which would indicate it as a reliable source. The "Join us" page on the Alpha Phi Omega of the Philippines website (http://www.apo.org.ph/?mode=default&cmd=get&id=14) has "We are very proud of our Distinguished APhiOs" and Distinguished APhiOs links to another page. This would *not* be a problem if the link was to elsewhere on the APO-Philippines website, but it is to a docs.google page (https://docs.google.com/View?docID=ajd4f6k5cp6f_82fk6phgfb&revision=_latest). What would be a good way to use the docs.google page as a reference, with an indication that it is a link from an official source?Naraht (talk) 20:10, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I have removed the link, per WP:ELNO: WP is not a directory. In fact List of Alpha Phi Omega members should be pruned to include only people who are notable in their own right. --ColinFine (talk) 23:06, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I looked at the WP:ELNO criteria, and do not believe that it fails any of the criteria other than possibly 19, which is why I want to make it a reference source with a proper noting indicating that it is an official list. I feel that expanding the list on wikipedia to include those that are from the Philippines is part of countering systemic bias in the article. There certainly are those on the list at the external link that are notable (President and Vice President of the Philippines, Senators of the Philippine Legislature, members of COMELEC, etc.)
 * It is a self-published document and doesn't show the author or publisher. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 02:20, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Gadget850, good point, is there any way to reference it instead as a designated linked article from the Alpha Phi Omega - Philippines website. Say as "List of Distinguished APhiOs as referenced by the Alpha Phi Omega of the Philipines website (http://www.apo.org.ph/?mode=default&cmd=get&id=14)" I missed that the article itself doesn't mention Alpha Phi Omega of the Philippines as an author.
 * As a Google Document it is some individuals account that is publicly shared. There is nothing in the document that indicates it is a reliable published source. Just because the APO links to it doesn't help. If you want more eyes on this, you can ask at WP:RSN, but I just don't see it as a reliable source. ---—  Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 19:01, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Agreed, looks like I'll have to use it as a guide and look for references for individual entries in it.Naraht (talk) 15:25, 14 April 2011 (UTC)