Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2011 April 2

= April 2 =

The_Seventh_Coin
Could someone do me a favor? Could someone write a summary for the Seventh Coin movie based on this summary: http://www.movieguide.org/reviews/movie/the-seventh-coin.html Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 02:11, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

DAB Watchlist?
Is there a way to disambiguate my Watchlist? I just copied all The Simpsons and Futurama episodes from their table pages into my raw watchlist, and want to make sure I have episodes only and no dab pages...is it possible to use dab finder to help me out? C T J F 8 3 02:37, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * The dab finder has "watchlist" at the right hand end of its source options - can you make that work?
 * As a plan B, you could use AWB. Make a list from the "My watchlist" source, then use "List > Save list" to save a text file containing wikilinks. Save that into a sandbox somewhere and run the tool on it. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:08, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, I might not have been clear...the link you gave me searches the articles for DABs (which I will also use), what I meant to ask was can I search the articles I have watched to see if I watched any DAB pages? C T J F 8 3  16:00, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I've just tested plan B. I exported my watchlist from AWB into a text file and then pasted that into User:John of Reading/Sandbox. Then I've used the "Page" option of the dab finder and asked it to look at "User:John of Reading/Sandbox". It has identified five of those links as being dab pages. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:17, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't have AWB...
 * I guess I can just wait and until someone edits the page, and see if it looks like an edit to a dab or an article. C T J F 8 3  16:31, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah well. I only explored that option because you are listed as having AWB permission.
 * Plan C - grab your watchlist using Special:Watchlist/raw, think of a good way to surround each entry with double square brackets, and then continue with plan B... -- John of Reading (talk) 16:42, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * LOL, that is way too much work...would a plan D of you using AWB for my watchlist work? C T J F 8 3  16:49, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I can't see your watchlist. If you dump the contents of your Special:Watchlist/raw into User:John of Reading/Sandbox, replacing the existing content, then I'll have a think about how to add the square brackets. I'm going offline now, though. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:04, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Done...if it is too much work, don't worry about it, not a huge deal. Thanks, C T J F 8 3  17:09, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Adding the square backets is pretty easy. Click the /R/ button in wikied, put ^ in top box in wikied and in the bottom box and click the arrow circle on the left of that box. That will put [[ on the left end of each line. Similarly by putting $ in the top box and  in the bottom box and click the arrow circle. This will put ]] on the right end of each line. Naraht (talk) 17:19, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

In AWB? Can you do that and check if I have a any DAB pages on my watchlist then...since you know how to do it? C T J F 8 3 17:22, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Naraht, we're done. The 12 dab pages are now listed at the top of User:John of Reading/Sandbox. I wonder what was the right way to do this? -- John of Reading (talk) 17:52, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! I appreciate it! C T J F 8 3  18:01, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * You can add these 2 lines into the .js for your skin, Special:MyPage/skin.js.
 * importScript('User:Anomie/linkclassifier.js'); // Linkback: User:Anomie/linkclassifier.js
 * importStylesheet('User:Anomie/linkclassifier.css'); // Linkback: User:Anomie/linkclassifier.css
 * The colors will change on links based what they are. DAB pages will show up different then articles listed for deletion or redirects.  DAB pages show up with a yellow background, this works in when you edit the watchlist also.  GB fan (talk) 18:11, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * So much easier - the right tool for the job. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:12, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * LOL, ya a lot easier...well, at least John did all the work for me! Thanks for the work, John... C T J F 8 3  19:45, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Running MediaWiki extensions when browsing en.wikipedia.org
Hi. I would like to run the extension http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RemoveRedlinks when browsing en.wikipedia.org. How can I do that? Cheers, Drakefjustin (talk) 02:55, 2 April 2011 (UTC).
 * According to Special:Version, this extension is not enabled on this wiki. If you can give more detail of what you are trying to do, perhaps someone here will be able to think of an alternative. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:15, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Extensions are run on the server, not on individuals' clients. --ColinFine (talk) 14:46, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

ref tags/templates
I have edited a Wiki page, and as far as I can tell I have conformed to all the other reference tags and templates on the page -- but the page displays this message now, persistently:

Cite error: There are *ref* tags on this page, but the references will not show without a Reflist template or a *references /* tag; see the help page.

Can someone please explain what I am doing wrong? I'd like the error message to go away. Thanks.


 * It would help if you told us what article you're working on. From your contributions, I'm guessing that you're talking about Joan Juliet Buck.  I see no errors on that page.  Dismas |(talk) 03:45, 2 April 2011 (UTC)


 * The poster fixed it after posting here. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:30, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

The error message links to a help page— please let me know if that page needs further clarification. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 13:06, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Times New Roman Page
A user keeps including some individual named Cameron S. Latham in the article but this individual had nothing to do with times new roman. The correct individual who should be recieving credit is Victor Lardent. Please check into the issue. The individual that keeps doing it has this i.p. address. 50.9.59.242 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiking222 (talk • contribs) 06:17, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for bringing attention to this. I have undone the edit and warned the IP for deliberating inserting errors into the article. Goodvac (talk) 06:23, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

do ou have any industries in india
i want to work in pron industries so if possille then inform me at this mail (Redacted) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.184.140.231 (talk) 08:07, 2 April 2011 (UTC)


 * This page is only for questions about using Wikipedia.  Chzz  ► 08:35, 2 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Sometimes I feel we need a template... - ¡Ouch! (hurt me / more pain) 05:22, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Please somebody help me
I would like to request the website Examiner.com to be whitelisted. Is there somebody who can help me? Thank you!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gdagostino (talk • contribs) 08:32, 2 April 2011 (UTC)


 * See WP:WHITELIST. Dismas |(talk) 08:54, 2 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I doubt you'd ever see the whole website whitelisted, its articles are user submitted with little to no editorial oversight; it's not a reliable source in nearly every instance. For the few exceptions, you can request a whitelist of that specific URL, if it really is one of the exceptions. Rehevkor ✉  09:34, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Editing
Just wondering if I have to know how to use HTML coding to add to an article. Its just a couple of lines of plain text without links or any special character formatting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.38.166.7 (talk) 10:20, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia uses its own type of markup. To learn more, you can have a look at Help:Wiki markup. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 10:26, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Just add what you want into the article. See the toolbar when you click edit. The "B" and "I" (bold and italic). Use the options in the toolbar if you need to. It's easy. Don't worry about screwing up. I'm pretty sure that everyone here learned by trial and error. Good luck.--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 10:30, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I left you a message on you talk page. It contains some helpful links to get started with editing. Best luck and happy editing. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 10:37, 2 April 2011 (UTC)


 * And Cheatsheet. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 13:08, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Username disappearance
I created an account a few years ago with a straightforward username. I've just tried to log in for the first time since about that day and found that Wikipedia doesn't recognise that the username exists. Are idle usernames deleted? Should I simply create a fresh account? All advice appreciated; thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.45.217.209 (talk) 13:11, 2 April 2011 (UTC)


 * User names are not deleted. Note, they are case sensitive - make sure you get the user name exactly right. Have a look for it in Special:ListUsers - putting the first few letters into the box Display users starting at:.


 * If you cannot find the username (or cannot remember the password or get a password-reset via email), then yes, you'll have to create an account. Just be careful to stick to one user account - but if the old one is no longer accessible, it is fine to just "abandon" it.  Chzz  ► 13:15, 2 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Rediscovering an old account is quite easy if you remember which articles you edited (low traffic ones are best for this). See the page's history and look for a familiar username. Zakhalesh (talk) 13:21, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you kindly; I'll try all that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.45.217.209 (talk) 00:17, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks again; I discovered that I was misreading a single character. I'm now signed in and have attempted to add a little discussion to a talk page and to sign it with four tildes; yet only my I.P. address appears (in the preview, anyway). Sorry to trouble you further, but could you take a stab at what I'm doing wrong? Thanks. (I'll put four tildes below.)

Signatorius (talk) 02:48, 3 April 2011 (UTC)


 * If your IP address is shown then your login is not registered. Help:Logging in has some tips on staying logged in. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:39, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much, PrimeHunter. My username didn't appear on that list. I'm presently logged in but still unable to get the signature to appear. (The message I left here was exceptional in that regard.) I'd very much appreciate any other thoughts you may have. Cheers --

121.45.217.209 (talk) 23:46, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

P.S. It's not evident to me how to gauge for certain whether I'm logged in at any particular moment. Refreshing a page and looking at the top isn't a reliable way to tell; I've refreshed a couple of pages, and one continues to say "Log in" and the other continues to say "Log out". Thanks again.

Signatorius (talk) 23:54, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

P.P.S. Actually, it looks like that may have been the problem: that a page, even after refreshing, maintains its initial information on whether the user is logged in. Getting rid of the page altogether, logging in again, and navigating to it in another tab seemed to do the trick. (I had, though, in the meantime, gotten rid of all cookies.) Let's assume that it's solved. :-) Thanks --

Signatorius (talk) 00:09, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Adding an External Link
Hope someone can help. I'm sure it is easier than I am finding it; all I want to do is to add an external link to an article. It is a link to a serious website which wil cpmpliment both the Wikipedia article and our work, but I have become lost as to the 'how'. Have got as far as a template page, but found no template! Any ideas? Andy T —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.6.39.35 (talk) 15:04, 2 April 2011 (UTC)


 * External links belong in a section at the end of the article, called ==External links==


 * They should only be added if they provide truly Encyclopaedic information that could not otherwise be added. See WP:EL.


 * The format for them is as follows;

* IANA Example website


 * That will appear as;


 * IANA Example website

 Chzz  ► 15:16, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * And especially see WP:EL. --ColinFine (talk) 23:43, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

how to create info page
My page is up for deletion I was trying to create an artist information page but can't find the options to do so could you please instruct how where to go to create a page for my band. Thank you Lfobbs (talk) 15:27, 2 April 2011 (UTC)


 * As advised in WP:FIRST, you should not create an article about your band. Wikipedia only has articles about well-known bands; if it is featured in newspapers and other reliable sources, then someone else will write about it.  Chzz  ► 15:34, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

the message from the hacker .now is taking over my face book page
(Redacted)

my face book acc. was hack this afternoon,someone send me a emil from face book inc.say that something is wrong with my acc. need me to proof my name and password is not a fake one.now he is taking over my acc .name on my page now become (Redacted), i am very sure he is the hacker.please help me to take back my acc.my poker game acc had 27 m.218.186.17.250 (talk) 15:28, 2 April 2011 (UTC)


 * This is the Wikipedia help desk. We have no control over other websites; you should contact them instead.


 * This page is only for questions about using Wikipedia.  Chzz  ► 15:30, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Sino-Platonic Papers
I have made a number of edits to Sino-Platonic Papers and its Discussion page today but none of them have shown up on my Watchlist - whereas all my edits on other articles have. Could you please explain this to me? Many thanks, John Hill (talk) 15:48, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Are you sure that the article is on your watchlist? Go to the article and look at the little five-pointed star at the top right. If the star is white, then the article is not on your watchlist; click the star to watch the article. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:06, 2 April 2011 (UTC)


 * You might also want to check your My Preferences. Under the Watchlist tab are options to automatically add pages you've created, edited, or moved to your watchlist.-- Obsidi ♠ n Soul  16:21, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * If it's not either of those, maybe your watchlist is set to 'hide your own edits'? There's a button on the watchlist page you can use to change that.--Physics is all gnomes (talk) 17:05, 2 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks so much, everyone, for your help. It turned out that the first suggestion about clicking on "the little five-pointed star at the top right" (which was white) has fixed the problem for me. I will also check out the other two suggestions just in case I run into problems with either of them in the future. And now I know a little more about WP and how to use it effectively. All best wishes and thanks again, John Hill (talk) 04:23, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

CRAZY GIRL SHIN BIA
In response to your proposal to delete my article on the manwha CRAZY GIRl SHIN BIA, I have found one other bibliographic source, which I have added to the entry, yet I cannot display it for some reason. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Glammazon (talk • contribs) 17:09, 2 April 2011 (UTC)


 * You're apparently trying to add it inside a comment. Also see WP:REFB for referencing help. Zakhalesh (talk) 17:10, 2 April 2011 (UTC)


 * And one of the external links (I don't know which) is on the WP:BLACKLIST. – ukexpat (talk) 13:42, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Attribution history
How does one provide attribution history to redirects from pages that have not been merged? How does one also provide attribution history to pages that are redirected elsewhere and have partial content on another page (e.g. "Foo" was merged and redirected into "Bar", but then "Foo" was also recreated with some similar content but subsequently merged and redirected into "Baz" instead.)? :| TelCo NaSp  Ve :|  20:46, 2 April 2011 (UTC)


 * You say where it came from, on the talk page. Use a diff. Say "Part of this page came from the article "Foo" http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Foobar&oldid=421190068 "


 * You can use Template:Copied if you want.


 * You should also state where something is copied from in the edit summary itself - but you can't do that retrospectively. So the best we can do is put an explanation on the talk page.


 * The point is, to provide a link back to wherever people can see the history of "who wrote what"; that is the requirement of the licence.  Chzz  ► 20:59, 2 April 2011 (UTC)


 * The problem was that nothing was copied, even though it was asserted so. I could not find any instance in the history of the target article page that included the content supposedly "copied from the redirect", so we still miss some attribution. :| TelCo  NaSp  Ve :|  21:18, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * If you tell us what specific pages this is about we might be able to help further. Based on what you've said, there's a possibility there are deleted edits that you can't see that contain the content copied from the redirect.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 07:24, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
 * The page that I'm currently looking at is Talk:Water Tribe, which seems to have a significant amount of history behind the article to warrant attribution. It was redirected to Talk:Universe of Avatar: The Last Airbender in http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Water_Tribe&diff=265801581&oldid=263459741 this edit], and on the talkpage of the redirected article you can find two instances of the template, used precisely for this purpose. However, that target in itself had also undergone a deletion discussion where the nominator decided to redirect that page instead to a section within a different article, that is, Avatar: The Last Airbender. But since there was nothing to appropriately copy to whatever was already covered in the section there was no  template placed on the talkpage of the destination article. After that, the first of the two redirects ("Water Tribe") went through one AfD, one Delrev and yet another RfD to boot. Now I don't know where the attribution history for [ Universe of Avatar: The Last Airbender] should go to, or whether [ Water Tribe] should be attributed on multiple pages.  :| TelCo  NaSp  Ve :|  20:25, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Inter-language attribution
While deleting expired prods, I came across Frank Major, which definitely deserves to be deleted under the stated prod rationale. However, I declined it because the Turkish article on him is an obvious translation of our article, down to the odd  attempt at linking at the end of the filmography section. I'd like to get rid of this article, but I'd also like to allow Turkish to have a revision history; is there any way to do this, short of getting a Turkish admin to perform an import? Moreover, I'm not sure that tr:wp allows imports, since the only babel links at Help:Import are for Arabic, German, and French. Nyttend (talk) 21:47, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * By the way — if you're an admin and you figure out how to take care of the attribution history without keeping this article, feel free to ignore my decline and delete it as if nobody had objected. If you're not an admin, please tag the page with something such as .  Thanks!  Nyttend (talk) 21:54, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
 * For attribution you don't need to have the full editing history, you only need to attribute the editors who have added any substantive content. A quick look at the page history seems to indicate only about 4 or 5 non-bot editors (plus a few IPs who mostly seems to have been reverted). I would suggest simply doing a non-substantive edit to the turkish page with an edit summary saying something like "Original content translated from english wikipedia and submitted by en:User:Fred, en:User:Fred2 etc". Boissière (talk) 20:43, 3 April 2011 (UTC)