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= April 29 =

National Baptist Convention, USA
I've been editing National Baptist Convention, USA, Inc. and someone just redirected the page making the article appear under National Baptist Convention, USA. The Convention is known by the former and references itself on its website and all of its official documents including the 'Inc.' I've tried to undo the redirect by Richard Arthur Norton but can't do it. Can someone help me?

thanks,

NationalBaptists —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nationalbaptists (talk • contribs) 02:22, 29 April 2011 (UTC)


 * We don't normally include "Inc." in the article title per Naming conventions (companies). I have note issues with your user name on your talk page. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 02:37, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

problem
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.22.44.178 (talk) 09:28, 29 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I've removed the details of your personal problem; I'm afraid we cannot help with that here. This is a page for asking questions about how to use English Wikipedia.  Chzz  ► 09:41, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Scare quotes
I could swear that we used to have a policy or guideline cautioning us about using scare quotes but I can't seem to find it. Does anyone know where it is or what happened to it? A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 14:21, 29 April 2011 (UTC)


 * MOS:BADEMPHASIS says: "Quotation marks for emphasis of a single word or phrase, or scare quotes, are discouraged." PrimeHunter (talk) 14:49, 29 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Hmmm...I'm not sure that was what I was thinking of. Was this covered in some policy or guideline and then removed?  A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 13:58, 30 April 2011 (UTC)


 * For discussions outside mainspace, WP:INDCRIT says: "Avoid use of unexplained scare quotes and other means of implying criticism or making indirect criticism when you are writing in edit comments and talk pages." The mainspace article Scare quotes also talks about use but this is of course not aimed at Wikipedia editors. You could also check out search results in MOS discussions: PrimeHunter (talk) 14:37, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Broom icon
Regarding the top of the Wikipedia page: Canadian Society of Painters in Water Colour. I hope to get the final broom icon removed, though I feel the article is organized as is. I could use some help. It reads this article may require cleanup. Does that mean it could be fine as is? Advice is welcome please. Thank you. Artisforme (talk) 15:17, 29 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I changed it to Refimprove - the article still relies on just two sources to demonstrate notability, and that isn't enough. – ukexpat (talk) 16:38, 29 April 2011 (UTC)


 * And in fact the sources do not address the notability of the Society itself. Please take a look at WP:ORG and WP:RS for more guidance as to what constitutes notability in these circumstances and the kind of sources we need to demonstrate it. – ukexpat (talk) 16:43, 29 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I added verifiable evidence as guided (thank you). This brings the sources from two to nine. Can another editor please take a look and hopefully, the open book icon will be removed? Artisforme (talk) 18:22, 29 April 2011 (UTC)


 * ✅ – ukexpat (talk) 19:20, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. I am impressed by the regulations and the editors. Artisforme (talk) 17:26, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

LaTeX vs HTML
Is there a guideline or policy regarding when to use HTML markup and when to use LaTeX markup for rendering of math formulas? WP:MATH does a good job comparing the two, but fails to explain when the use of one markup should be favoured over the use of the other markup. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 15:18, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * There is no preference. The standard at Wikipedia is a) if you are starting a new article, or adding a math formula to an article for the first time, do whichever one you believe to be best for whatever reason you wish and b) for articles that are already using one standard, don't change it to a different standard, if you have to add something follow the lead of what is already in the article; if you must change it be prepared to explain why on the talk page, and accept that you may be reverted if you don't have a good reason.  Most of Wikipedia works this way, see WP:ENGVAR for a parallel situation.  -- Jayron  32  20:11, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Trojan XP Home Security - Unregistered Version linked to Wikipedia Site
Dear Folks,

When I clicked on a Wikipedia site for Snow White and the Huntsman, Kristen Stewart's new movie, a Trojan was downloaded to my computer.

Please check that site and delete it.

The Trojan is almost impossible to remove.

Thanks.

`````` —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.248.255.66 (talk) 15:29, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * This page is only for questions about how to use or edit Wikipedia. Are you in the right place?    ArcAngel    (talk) ) 15:34, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia does not appear to have a page for such a film. I suspect you must have been at another wiki, nothing to do with Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 17:02, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Template:Listen breaking at Alisa Weilerstein
At Alisa Weilerstein, the Template:Listen is breaking inexplicably to me.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:24, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Is the first filename correct? – ukexpat (talk) 18:09, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I think so. It is suppose to be File:20091104 Alisa Weilerstein and Jason Yoder - Saint Saëns’ The Swan.theora.ogv.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:46, 29 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Could the curly apostrophe (’) in the file name be causing the problem? – ukexpat (talk) 19:18, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * So, you think the template can not handle that character? I guess I could reload the file.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:45, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I have resaved it under a different apostrophe name (File:20091104 Alisa Weilerstein and Jason Yoder - Saint Saëns' The Swan.ogv) and the page breaks less. Previously the title broke and there was no file display. Now, the file display works.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:18, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

I believe I have fixed it; the title parameter of the listen template contained a wiki-link to Le cygne, but links in the title cause the template to fail; the entire title is used as a link to the file page. I removed the wikilink with this edit. I hope that is OK.  Chzz  ► 23:07, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:59, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data.
I am getting the error: "Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data."

But not on most edits, ONLY after I get "Your edit has triggered a filter designed to warn editors, organisations and companies against using Wikipedia as an advertising medium. "

Edits that don't change URLs work. I'm just trying to add a review to the External Links

GLComputing (talk) 20:43, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * If you're trying to add a link to a web site that doesn't meet Wikipedia's external links guidelines, or to your own web site, that might be triggering the filter. We try to avoid adding links to our own web sites or to sources that don't come from someone with a fact-checking editor of some kind (i.e., no blogs, Facebook, or 'free web site' links). -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 20:55, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Yes, it triggers the filter... I understand that. it says to click Save again if you still want to post it, knowing it will be reviewed... but on the 2nd Save, it comes back with the error as per the subject. I'll try a link from another site and see

GLComputing (talk) 21:18, 29 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I think I've solved it ... the 2nd save from the filter is broken. At least it is if your name is in the URL... without your name in URL, no filter and no problem :-)

GLComputing (talk) 21:33, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

embedding photos
I am having trouble embedding a photo. How exactly do I get it to upload? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jrmh76 (talk • contribs) 21:23, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Upload C T J F 8 3  21:57, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * For the whole photo process see Help:Files —teb728 t c 23:56, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * The user has now uploaded and added a photo so I'm marking this 'resolved'.  Chzz  ►  01:51, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Edit Summary
Hallo. I'm having problems seeing Japanese, Korean and Chinese ideograms, on Wikimedia and outside it. It doesn't happens with Arab, Hindi, Cyrillic ect. Is it a tool to upload to resolve this problem? Thanx a lot :-) --Dэя-Бøяg 21:26, 29 April 2011 (UTC) this has been resolved


 * Another issue (sorry). My Edit summary used to have a sort of list of typed words and phrases. This stuff was useful to me to avoid to repeat some standards phrases (ex: added template, warning notice etc). By now it seems to be disabled. Is it possible to re-activate it again? Thank you and sorry. --Dэя-Бøяg 22:57, 29 April 2011 (UTC)


 * That was supplied by your browser's autocomplete feature. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 23:27, 29 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot. I've enabled again my autocomplete feature. :-) --Dэя-Бøяg 00:22, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Edit insert box
There use to be an Insert box on the editting screen where you could inser Wiki markup, Symbols etc. It appears to have disappeared in recent weeks (although is still present when uploading a book cover image), is it possible for me to get it back ? Thanks GrahamHardy (talk) 22:35, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * It's still there, right where it used to be. Perhaps it's a browser problem? Anyway, if it's not there, you can still insert those characters by clicking on the "Special characters" option in the edit toolbar (above the edit box). Most of the frequently used wiki markup can be inserted using the "Advanced" option. Hope this helps. Chamal T •C 02:57, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I Use IE8 and the box disappeared a month or so ago. I have Show Edit toolbar checked in my preferences but I cant see it... GrahamHardy (talk) 17:57, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Can anybody help ? GrahamHardy (talk) 18:54, 1 May 2011 (UTC)