Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2011 August 19

= August 19 =

Sort string length
Is there a maximum string length when using a sortable table?&#32;– droll  &#91;chat&#93;  03:32, 19 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Never mind. I checked and its long enough for what I need.&#32;– droll  &#91;chat&#93;  05:49, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

HАGGER?
Ok, it's not the most important question ever but it seems to me, it could show a bug.

I just went to clean up my Watchlist. Among the articles I deleted from the list there was an "HАGGER?" in red. Possibly some very old work of a vandal. When I check the chenges done, I noticed there were still a few red links, "HАGGER?" included. So I went back to remove them (again or maybe a couple slipped my attention). Now all were gone a part from that "HАGGER?". I tried to delete it few more times. Every time I got a:

"A single title was removed from your watchlist:

HАGGER? (talk)"

But the "HАGGER?" was still showing in the list. So I went to the Edit raw watchlist, found the "HАGGER?", removed, saved, checked.....and the beast was still there! (°_°)

I can live with it, still it's weird and it seems a bug to me. Has anyone got a clue?

Thanks in advance! --Dia^ (talk) 11:49, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
 * That was a redirect created during the process of page-move vandalism. To remove it from your watchlist, use http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=H%D0%90GGER%3F&action=unwatch. Note the HTML encodings of the characters, since the "A" isn't really an "A"; it is a UNICODE look-alike. (I think the uppercase Greek alpha, which looks identical.) Additionally, it is hard to remove from your watchlist because the "?" is an HTML symbol that is interpreted as part of a GET request. Did this work? Reaper Eternal (talk) 12:01, 19 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Ah! thanks for the explanation, at lease it makes some sense. I tried the link, it said, as usual, that the page has been removed but is actually still there. --Dia^ (talk) 12:27, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Click "edit raw watchlist", which brings up a text file of watchlisted pages. You can edit this like any article at Wikipedia, and just remove the text of the articles you want to remove.  That should work... -- Jayron  32  12:31, 19 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the suggestion, but, as I've already written, I tried and didn't work. Would change anything if I change the character encoding I view the page with? (now is unicode)--Dia^ (talk) 12:44, 19 August 2011 (UTC)


 * It's a known glitch. This procedure should work: Click "Edit raw watchlist", copy everything except HAGGER? to your own computer, delete everything from the watchlist, save the empty watch list, click "Edit raw watchlist" and copy everyhing back from your computer. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:20, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks!!! Gone! ;0)--Dia^ (talk) 13:37, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Tool for creating redirects
Is there a tool for creating large numbers of redirects to the same target article? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 14:00, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Not that I know of, it has to be done manually for each separate alternative page name. Mjroots (talk) 07:33, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Disable WikiLove
How do I disable WikiLove on the English Wikipedia? Jc3s5h (talk) 14:02, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Go to the editing tab in your preferences. At the bottom of the page under Labs features, untick the box for "Enable showing appreciation for other users with the WikiLove tab (experimental)" and save the page.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:09, 19 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Jc3s5h (talk) 14:11, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

correcting an article about me
i notice that is a very bad comment about me on Wikipedia:('http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gjergj_cicani') the comment is in Albanian and the person who wrote, is badmouthing me. the reason why i say this is because i am the only person with this name living on tefta tashko street. the comment says: gjergj cicani living on tefta tashko street is the stupid person of this street. please feel free to contact me &lt;removed contact information&gt;, please can you provide me with the ip adress of the individual who made that note. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.106.3.17 (talk) 14:35, 19 August 2011 (UTC)


 * The page you linked to does not exist and has nothing at all about you or anyone named Gjiergj Cicani. -- k a i n a w &trade; 14:38, 19 August 2011 (UTC)


 * I think that the OP was trying to refer to User:Gjergj cicani. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:40, 19 August 2011 (UTC)


 * User:Gjergj cicani is a user page and not an article, so it isn't part of the encyclopedia. I have reverted the comment which was made by 79.106.11.3. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:44, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

University of Liverpool
I'm not getting anywhere with discussing this issue on the University of Liverpool page, but basically there are two things that need updating on: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Liverpool

1. The current crest displayed as the main image of the page has been confirmed by the University of Liverpool Press Office that it should no longer be used, and the new logo should be used instead. The new logo was moved down to the box below the website address, when the old crest was then added. This is the communication that I received from the press office: Dear Daniel,

The new logo is the one that should be used. Are you an editor for Wikipedia?

Best,

Kate (Redacted) @liverpool.ac.uk

This image (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:University_of_Liverpool_Crest.png) needs to be replaced with this one (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:University_of_Liverpool_logo_2007.png).

2. There is also a building image on the wiki page that displays the old logo and is no longer the main admissions/info office of the university (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:University_of_Liverpool_Building.jpg). It needs to be replaced with this: http://www.fcharchitects.com/cms/resources/08054a062-w600h480.jpg

Can somebody help me with the above?

Thanks,

193.32.30.68 (talk) 15:20, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I have rearranged the logo/crest placement. Does that work? I am afraid that we cannot use this image unless the copyright owner releases it under an acceptable license. – ukexpat (talk) 16:52, 19 August 2011 (UTC)


 * (ec)The best advice I can give is to continue the discussion on the talk page and work with the editors there to gain a consensus, discussion seems to be on going so there's no reason to think you're "not getting anywhere". Posting this request here would appear to be an attempt at forum shopping - and will be unlikely to get you anywhere, no one here can or will override any consensus gained on the talk page for you. LxRv (a.ka. Rehevkor) 16:56, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Transclusion problem with footer
The following templates are working fine in Firefox, Chrome, Safari and Opera, but are not transcluding properly in MSIE: Template:NFL Roster template list, Template:NFL staff footer, Template:CFL staff footer and Template:CFL roster footer. Does anyone have any tweaks or alternate transclusion methods?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:46, 19 August 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't see any issue with IE9 even with 7 and 8 compatibility modes. What is the problem? ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 21:23, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually it seems that three of the four have been fixed. The lone remaining problem is Template:NFL Roster template list's compatibility with NFL roster. See for example Template:Philadelphia Eagles roster.  In the other four browsers everything looks fine.  However, in MSIE the footer template is only spanning column one makeing it extra wide.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:20, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
 * All templates look fine in my IE8. I'm not sure what went wrong in your browser because I barely use IE anymore. Perhaps someone more familiar with IE could help with this issue. — MT (talk) 06:48, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * This is fixed now.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 12:37, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

how do i report vandels
How do i report vandels? i am sick of them changing stuff back to their vandalised nonscence how do i report them? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Delighted eyes (talk • contribs) 17:18, 19 August 2011 (UTC)


 * After trying to tell them to stop (with appropriate warnings, etc) - you can report them on WP:AIV.  Chzz  ► 17:18, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Delighted eyes has a content dispute at stalking and appears to be trying to have their way by labeling edits by other editors as vandalism.  Acroterion   (talk)   17:27, 19 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, I was about to mention: my comment was only in the case of actual vandalism, of course. This edit isn't vandalism; it's a content dispute - so, for that, you'd need to discuss it / form consensus on the article talk page, in the normal way; WP:CONSENSUS etc.  Chzz  ► 17:31, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Feedback on Proposed Edit to Spotify Article
I proposed an edit to the Spotify article, roughly a week ago. As of today, I have not been able to receive feedback from fellow page contributors. I am writing to see how I can move forward with my proposed edits to this article. My proposal can be found on Spotify talk page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Spotify#Features_Section).

--Togna bologna (talk) 17:58, 19 August 2011 (UTC)


 * As nobody has objected to your proposal, I see no reason why you shouldn't go ahead with the edit. WP:BRD - David Biddulph (talk) 18:08, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Ok, thank you, DB! --Togna bologna (talk) 18:10, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

wikimedia emails without a wikimedia account
I got an email to vote in the Wikimedia image referendum, at the bottom it said "To remove yourself from future notifications, please add your user name at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_nomail_list." So I went to that page, it said I had to log in to edit, and when I tried to log in, I was told "There is no user by the name 'Severinus'". Because apparently I have a Wikipedia account, but not a Wikimedia account. But if I don't have a Wikimedia account and have no way of removing my email from Wikimedia's mailing lists, then Wikimedia should not be sending me emails. This is no different than getting spam with no way to remove myself from the mailing except by creating an account on the spammer's personal website. If I cannot log in to an individual Wikimedia project (e.g. to add myself to its nomail list), then that individual project should not have access to my account information such as email. If possible, an admin should both add my username to the Wikimedia nomail list and submit a bug report for this issue. This is not desired behavior. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Severinus (talk • contribs) 18:00, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
 * While in your english Wikipedia account go to Special:MergeAccount to unify your accounts, you will then be able to remove yourself from the mailing list. Ryan Vesey  Review me!  18:20, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
 * So in other words, while all the wikimedia projects apparently have access to my account information and can send me emails, I have to take special steps in order to log into other wikimedia projects, in order to tell them to stop sending me emails. Do y'all not see that this is not how this is supposed to work? --Severinus (talk) 18:35, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Your problem is a relic of older times in the project. Now, every user who creates an account creates a unified global account.  Ryan Vesey  Review me!  18:38, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

US Census question
for articles like US Census; where there are regions {e.g. Mid-Atlantic, West, etc} I looked at New York [2010 Census ~55million out of TOTAL US ~308million] please compile (offer) numbers for PAST Counts;like the same New York for e.g.1930 ??million out of US 122Million.70.234.0.78 (talk) 18:11, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
 * If you go to census.gov, you can find this info for yourself. -- Jayron  32  18:30, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Photoshop help
Can someone photoshop my sister out of the image File:Ponce de Leon Inlet Spiral Staircase.jpg? Ryan Vesey Review me!  18:28, 19 August 2011 (UTC)


 * I could crop her out. Would that work? Anything more than that is beyond my capabilities. – ukexpat (talk) 19:05, 19 August 2011 (UTC)


 * I have prepared the file, but there appear to be some issues with connectivity to Wikimedia servers at the moment so I cannot upload it. Will do so as soon as I can. - ukexpat (talk) 19:14, 19 August 2011 (UTC)


 * How's this? – ukexpat (talk) 19:33, 19 August 2011 (UTC) --->
 * Ahh, I should have thought to crop it. Perfect, thank you.  Ryan Vesey  Review me!  20:26, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
 * WP:LAB is the perfect place to request something like that.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ Hey it's me I am dynamite 10:42, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Quotations section
Is there a policy or guideline on the use of a "Quotations" section? I though there was something that said it was inappriate, but I can't find it now. (I am thinking in particular of the "Quotations" section just inserted in Albert Einstein.) —teb728 t c 21:01, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
 * For starters, Cquote should never be used within an article. or Quote should be used instead.  Ryan Vesey  Review me!  21:03, 19 August 2011 (UTC)


 * The External links section has a box linking Quotations from Wikiquote which is much more complete. Reading the discussion page there, most of those new quotes can't be sourced to Einstein. And ditto on the pull quotes. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 21:11, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
 * From WP:LONGQUOTE, a subsection of Quotations: "Do not insert any number of quotations in a stand-alone quote section." That's all I could find. Like everything else on Wikipedia, we should treat this with common sense. I donl't think a quote section normally belongs, but I can think of special exceptions where it might be appropriate. For example, Yogi Berra, who is so famous for his malapropisms (Yogiisms) that they deserve a quote section.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:03, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks all. —teb728 t c 03:46, 20 August 2011 (UTC)