Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2011 December 11

= December 11 =

Additional Info to be included
I was just reading the page on Leslie Tone Cabinets, and some of your info is incomplete. In the "models" section there is a whole series that have been completely left out all together. I have attached a link to the information that is needed to complete the models listing with info...and pictures...

http://www.captain-foldback.com/Leslie_sub/proline3.htm


 * I'm sorry, but that link does not look like a reliable source. It would be much better to refer to a more official publication, for such facts; maybe a magazine/newspaper review of the models. If you can find an appropriate source, you can just add the information yourself. If you're not so sure, add comments on the "discussion page" (AKA "talk page").


 * I'm not absolutely sure which article you meant, but I think it's probably Leslie speaker? In which case, the discussion page is Talk:Leslie speaker. Best,  Chzz  ► 02:59, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Wedding performed on top of Devils Tower 1992, Time magazine carried the story
There was a wedding on top of Devil's Tower in 1992. The wedding was performed by the late Justice of the Peace, Ronald E. Waugh, (July 10th 1953 - Aug. 4th, 2008)Time magazine reported it, as did local media, i.e. Sundance Times, Moorcroft Leader, and others. I was once engaged to, and lived with Ron Waugh shortly after this event. I do not recall the names of the couple who were married, or the names of their wedding party. Ron Waugh had never climbed before, so it was quite an event in his very colorful life. He performed numerous weddings around the base of the tower, but to my knowledge, this was the only one ever done on top of the tower. I believe the couple was from Illinois, but I'm not sure. I think this is an event that should appear in the recent history of the Devil's Tower National Monument. Mccattlee (talk) 01:12, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I have copied your comment over to '''Talk:Devils Tower National Monument.
 * All contributions are welcome, but you need to say exactly where the facts can be checked.
 * If it says something happened in that specific mag - sure, add it; anyone can edit.  Chzz  ► 09:00, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Why isn't there a page for author Thomas William Simpson?
Why isn't there a page for author Thomas William Simpson? He has written several books, like "The Fingerprints of Armless Mike", "The Caretaker" and "The Gypsy Storyteller". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.207.142.125 (talk) 01:40, 11 December 2011
 * I'm not sure if he meets the notability requirements. If he does, please feel free to write an article about him; see WP:FIRST.  Chzz  ► 08:56, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

missing film in andy griffith wiki
Missing film entitled"a song for the season" with andy griffith and naomi judd. (probably alot more...he's been in alot) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.148.133.24 (talk) 02:52, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Leave your comment at Talk:Andy Griffith, where you can reach people interested in the article, or if you have a reliable source, you can add it to the article yourself. —teb728 t c 07:42, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

How do you crop a picture?
How do you go about cropping a picture you have uploaded to Wk Commons and are using on a page? Thanks. Norlns22 (talk) 04:47, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * You need to crop the picture externally and then re-upload it. Personally, I use Microsoft Paint for easy cropping but you can use more advanced software if you prefer.  Ryan Vesey  Review me!  04:49, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks... I did it. It was pretty easy, but I'm not sure if the end result is much better. Can I change the dimensions of the photo by dictating the photo size in the infobox parameters, or does that line refer to pixel density? I see that, for example and sticking w/ living artists, the Cindy Sherman photo is a lot smaller than the Damian Hirst photo. Right now, the Mary McCleary photo I have cropped and uploaded seems a bit big -- it's the same size as the Damian Hirst photo (which makes me wonder; is that the default size?) Also, should I adjust the pixel count for the photo now that I have cropped it? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Norlns22 (talk • contribs) 06:23, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Actually, examining the photos more closely, I'm thinking the Cindy Sherman pic has been severely cropped prior to upload and that's why it is smaller. Am I correct? Norlns22 (talk) 06:25, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * You shouldn't worry about it.
 * You should use the default size; in an infobox, just put | image = Cindy sherman.jpg or whatever, and let the system deal with the sizing.
 * In other places, put Whatever.jpg etc.
 * That sets it to 'standard size' for a thumbnail. Let the person reading it decide how to display the pic.  Chzz  ► 08:44, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Dead Link on Page
What would be the appropriate way to mark a link in the references as dead? Is the most appropriate markup verification needed or is it some other markup that I am not aware of? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DoctorK88 (talk • contribs) 06:31, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Tag it dl —teb728 t c 07:23, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

References listed side by side in columns versus one long column
Greetings (again),

I have a lot of references for an article I am in the process of finishing. I happened to just read the Wk article on Tim Tebow, and noticed that the references on that page are in columns of three, side by side which is nice because it takes up less space vertically. Is there formatting that needs to be done for that, or after so many references, does the Wk template automatically start to list them in columns? Thanks! Norlns22 (talk) 06:40, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * You'll have to add some code to the reflist template.  will make the references display in columns depending on the size of the user's window. Goodvac (talk) 06:45, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Okay, this is really weird, but I know I saw them side by side, but I just went back to the Tebow page to see if there was any code I could copy for listing references in three columns, and now it's all one long column! Was I seeing things? Crazy! Norlns22 (talk) 06:43, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * That's probably because you changed your window size. See my response above. Goodvac (talk) 06:45, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

LOL Yes I was using Firefox when I first saw it and then when I checked back was using a Windows browser. I copied the code from the Tebow site (same as what you typed). Thanks for your response!! Norlns22 (talk) 07:02, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem, glad to be of assistance! Goodvac (talk) 08:34, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

copyright for photographs
Hello Wikipedia

I am compiling a brochure about current world events and wish to know whether I may use your Christchurch earthquake photographs for my brochure? Many thanks.

Fiona

222.152.162.138 (talk) 07:29, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * You certainly may! Just remember to attribute the creator, per the CC-BY-SA requirements. Goodvac (talk) 07:34, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I have removed your email address to protect your privacy. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:44, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Online versus traditional (non-digital) sources
Are Wk articles sourced entirely online considered inferior in quality in any way to articles that are sourced traditionally or use a mixture of traditional and digital sources? Thanks! Norlns22 (talk) 07:45, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Articles that take advantage of all of the highest quality sources on the article topic are of superior quality. This is often taken into account during Featured Article or A class review; though, many articles consult all the highest quality sources without going after an FA or A class recognition.  Sometimes the highest quality sources are available online (DOI scholarly articles, for example).  Sometimes the highest quality sources are exclusively off line.  Normally the highest quality sources are both online and offline. Fifelfoo (talk) 07:59, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Great answer! Thanks! Norlns22 (talk) 08:13, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Fourier series
i recently edited "relationship between fourier series and fourier transform" and cited a link that has been removed.but the limk is really informative.kindly cosider it again. thnx — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anurag252 (talk • contribs) 08:09, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi. Welcome.
 * Using that logged-in account, you've not made any other edits (apart from this question), so I cannot tell which article you are asking about.
 * External links are only appropriate if they "can be helpful to the reader, but they should be kept minimal, meritable, and directly relevant to the article" - WP:EL.
 * If it meets the requirements of that policy - please add it; or ask again here, saying exactly what link you think should be added to what article. Thanks!  Chzz  ► 08:54, 11 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Is this the link removal you are asking about? —teb728 t c 11:13, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Linking a Word to a Different Wk Article...is this possible?
Sorry, I am full of questions tonight. I am curious, is there any way to redirect a linked item in an article to the proper link, not the link the actual word used in the article links to? Here is my specific example: I have written an article on an artist, and I use a quote that mentions the art movement Conceptualism. I linked it, but now I have just realized that the article titled Conceptualism is about philosophy and not the art movement. The art article concerning the art movement is titled Conceptual art. Is there any way to link the word in my article "Conceptualism" (w/out obviously actually having to change the wording to Conceptual Art) to the art article? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Norlns22 (talk • contribs) 08:19, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes.
 * Example; if I put I am from England. I am a dentist. It appears as: I am from England. I am a dentist.
 * See WP:LINKING.  Chzz  ► 08:24, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Chzz...worked great! Norlns22 (talk) 09:15, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Infobox Additions...what am I doing wrong?
Greetings,

I am trying to create an infobox for the article Grand Rapids Art Museum. I have not previously worked on this article. I imported the template for the infobox from the Chicago Art Institute, but also wanted to include the names of the architectural firms (which Chicago does not include). I noticed that Albright-Knox Art Gallery does include the names of architects, and I used the exact same code that article uses for this, which is: | architect =  but it is not working. Is there some type of master art infobox template users must import in order for the infobox to appear properly? I really cannot figure out what I am doing wrong, besides possibly having the entry be out of order by not using some master template provided by Wk. Thanks for any advice or info! Norlns22 (talk) 09:20, 11 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Chicago Art Institute uses Template:Infobox museum. Albright-Knox Art Gallery uses Template:Infobox NRHP. They have different parameters documented at the linked template page seen at the bottom of the edit window on articles using them. Template:Infobox museum has no architect parameter. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:07, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * There is an old unanswered request at Template talk:Infobox museum. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:09, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you and that makes perfect sense. Norlns22 (talk) 10:09, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

submitted article to be accepted from Sandbox, my mistake, I didn't know it was for nonregistered editors
I'm a new editor(May 2011) and registered user with several articles on the history of the Orne in Lower Normandy France. I wrote the article Écouché in the Second World War in the sandbox not realizing that it was for unregistered users. I understand the wait is long and that is fine with me if this is an appropriate location, but if not then could someone move the article to where it is suppose to be? The other articles were accepted immediately, to my memory. Thank you for the attention to this matter. Mlane (talk) 11:42, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Écouché in the Second World War
 * The Articles for creation system can be used by registered users as well as unregistered. I expect your post here will attract a reviewer; the article looks fine to me. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:47, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Uploading files
Hi. I'm trying to upload an file to this page but for some reason it shows the messgae that I can't. Why? When I try to upload it shows this:

"The action you have requested is limited to users in one of the groups: Autoconfirmed users, Administrators, Confirmed users.

Return to Main Page"

Anotherdeadone (talk) 11:29, 11 December 2011 (UTC)


 * When you make three more edits, your account will be autoconfirmed and able to upload files to the English Wikipedia. You can already upload files to http://commons.wikimedia.org (if they have an appropriate license) and use them here. Rebirth (album) redirects to Rebirth. The latter is not an article but a disambiguation page and should not contain images. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:36, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorry, I meant Rebirth (Pain album). But thanks from the information. Anotherdeadone (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:39, 11 December 2011 (UTC).


 * What is the image you want to add? Note that Commons only accepts files which have been released under a license such as a Creative Commons License. Do you hold the copyright for the image? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 11:43, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Picture from Public University Website Okay?
Is a picture (w/ no copyright message or warning or symbol) of a professor from a public university website that is accessible to all internet users okay to use on Wk Commons or Wk En? I uploaded it, and the box after it finished uploading onto Wk Commons stated there was no restrictions on the copyright, but I assume this might be due to the license tag I used and not an external message from the source. I just got a message that the image will be removed in seven days. I continue to view many articles on artists, both living and deceased, whose editors or authors have included images, both of the artist him or herself, and of art work, in the infobox. I have a hard time believing the editors and authors of all of those pages took these pictures themselves. So, how are they getting around all of this copyright quicksand and shrapnel and managing to both upload, post, and retain images in articles despite the constant vigilance against copyright infringement? There must be a way. Someone in an earlier thread mentioned that uploading pics to WK En is less stringent than Wk Commons. Is this true? Thanks for any advice!! Also, I uploaded the image in question TWICE (after two cropping sessions on Windows Paint) after first uploading it, and both of the times I re-uploaded, I only included the actual image file info, not bothering to fill in any of the other blanks. Might this be why I received a removal notice? Norlns22 (talk) 12:14, 11 December 2011 (UTC) Also one last question... would a picture of a public museum be okay to use, or would I need permission from the website that is hosting/ displaying it?
 * No, most pictures you find on websites are not usable. A copyright notice is not needed for protection. One of the few ways of knowing that a picture is OK is an explicit statement that the picture is licensed under a free license like cc-by-sa. No non-free content can be hosted on Commons in any case. Here on English Wikipedia non-free content can be used sometimes but only under the restrictive conditions of WP:NFCC. Among the restrictions: non-free content may not be used if a free replacement exists or could be created that would serve the same encyclopedic purpose. (For a living person such free substitute could almost always be created.) And non-free content may be used only its use would significantly increase reader understanding. (So it can’t be used just to illustrate a mention of the subject of the picture.) —teb728 t c 12:55, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * For your last question: If you are asking about a picture of the outside of the museum, it depends on the country; different countries have different freedom of panorama laws. If you are asking about a picture of artwork inside the museum, it is even more complicated: It may depend on freedom of panorama laws. If not it depends on the copyright status of the artwork. And if the artwork is 3-dimensional, the photographer has a copyright on top of any possible copyright of the artist. If the picture is under copyright, you need permission of the artist and/or photographer—not that of the website. But the website may indicate what permission the artist and/or photographer has given. —teb728 t c 13:08, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, and as to File:03-mccleary l rdax 250x376.jpg: You need to send proof that Stephen F. Austin State University (or more likely a professional photographer who took the photo and retained copyright) has released the photo into the public domain (or less unlikely licensed it under a free license). (I can think of no reason to believe they have.) See WP:COPYREQ for how to handle that proof. —teb728 t c 13:25, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * As to Commons:File:Psychic.jpg. It is VERY unlikely the painting is in the public domain. If the artist has released the picture into the public domain (or less unlikely licensed it under a free license), prove it as described at WP:COPYREQ. —teb728 t c 13:40, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your thorough response. I really do appreciate it! I have an idea...why doesn't Wk just ban all pictures? This is way too complicated and hardly worth the effort. :D — Preceding unsigned comment added by Norlns22 (talk • contribs) 19:25, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Markup to add an image parameter to an infobox
I want to add an image parameter to. What markup do I need to add to the infobox? Is it sufficient to simply add a new label to the markup and then simply increment the labels of the other parameters? For example, is it sufficient to simply follow the implementation instructions at Help:Designing infoboxes and add

| label1 = | caption = | data1     =

as the first parameter to the infobox? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 13:23, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Images are handled specially by Template:Infobox; there is no need to increment all the data labels. I've boldly edited the template so that it supports images in the same way as Template:Infobox person does. Any problems, you know where to find the undo button :) -- John of Reading (talk) 16:00, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * You are awesome. Thanks. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 16:18, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Need Feedback on this Software Testing related term
Hello Friends, I have this small contribution from my end: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Test_Automation_Interface live for 24 hours. Need someone to review it and remove the "new unreviewed article" tag. Request for feedback led me here. Thank you for all your help and support. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.103.114.110 (talk) 13:46, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Test Automation Interface is not same as Test Automation
Hi,

Regarding this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Test_Automation_Interface It has been suggested to merge it with Test Automation.
 * Firstly, I disagree with the same, as I do not believe test automation interface to be a part of test automation. It is related to Test Automation but a super set of the same.


 * Secondly, how do I merge the article, I am not able to locate my article in Wikipedia to merge it.

Thank you for all the help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anandgopalkri (talk • contribs) 14:26, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * You can access the previous versions of the article via its "history" link; or this direct link will take you to the text of the article just before it was reduced to a redirect. I suggest you begin a discussion at Talk:Test automation. More editors are watching that page since it is an established article. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:09, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * You can access the previous versions of the article via its "history" link; or this direct link will take you to the text of the article just before it was reduced to a redirect. I suggest you begin a discussion at Talk:Test automation. More editors are watching that page since it is an established article. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:09, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * You can access the previous versions of the article via its "history" link; or this direct link will take you to the text of the article just before it was reduced to a redirect. I suggest you begin a discussion at Talk:Test automation. More editors are watching that page since it is an established article. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:09, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Philadelphia Here I Come!
Our article title is Philadelphia Here I Come!. However, a Google Books search reveals that all mentions of the book use the title Philadelphia, Here I Come!. Can an admin move the page? Albacore (talk) 15:23, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * This doesn't need an admin; see Moving a page for instructions on doing it yourself. The article desperately needs references to reliable sources to show readers that other people have been writing about this play. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:17, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * It does need an admin because there are two versions at Philadelphia, Here I Come!. —teb728 t c 22:32, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I have moved it. It could also have been requested at Requested moves. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:54, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Third person editting
At the following page; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFC_award#Background_and_History_of_NFC The paragraph should be written as a third person ans the use of words like "our" should be avoided. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.177.98.119 (talk) 15:24, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The article has been tagged as not having the proper tone since September. All it takes is somebody (for example, you) deciding to do the job. --ColinFine (talk) 18:29, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The "person" issue was the least of it "split in half by our enemies" ... I removed a lot of tautology and POV but it still needs work, including citations. Rich Farmbrough, 13:26, 13 December 2011 (UTC).

How did this image get flipped?
The image of the Bergen Place Monument in Seattle ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergen#International_relations ) is sideways for some reason. If you click the image, it is also sideways. However, if you click it again for the full resolution version, it is the right side up. What happened? --Ifrit (Talk) 16:12, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Software happened! I have added it to a two-day backlog of images that need rotation; if you visit the file page again you will find a notice explaining some of the technical background. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:24, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Alright, thanks.--Ifrit (Talk) 16:29, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

We now have a template to answer this question— HD/rotate:

The MediaWiki software now (starting at 5 October 2011) looks at image metadata such as EXIF and automatically rotates the image when it is uploaded. At the bottom of the file page there is a Metadata section—click on "Show extended details" to see the orientation.

The file may be stored on Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons. If the text below the image is "This is a file from the Wikimedia Commons", then it is on Commons.
 * If the file is on Commons, then click on "description page there" to directly open the image on Commons.
 * If you are registered, then (log in) use the Request rotation link directly below the image. Then a bot will correct the orientation automatically. To see the backlog time, check the help page.
 * If you are not registered, then edit the page and add per the documentation.
 * If the file is on Wikipedia, then
 * the file will need to be downloaded, fixed using editing software and reuploaded.
 * the file could be moved to Commons (if it is allowed there - e.g. fair use images are not) and rotated by bot (see above) there.
 * If you don't have any of those abilities, then you can add  or  to the top of the file description page. You can also place a request on the Help Desk. ---—  Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 22:57, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * If you don't have any of those abilities, then you can add  or  to the top of the file description page. You can also place a request on the Help Desk. ---—  Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 22:57, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

I fixed this one manually. Done.  Chzz  ► 00:26, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Note also there are a lot of scans from old books that need rotation by around 1 or 2 degrees. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Graphic_Lab/Illustration_workshop is a good place to ask, or simply d/l GIMP and fix it yourslef (GIMP can fix a lot of other stuff too.) Rich Farmbrough, 13:44, 13 December 2011 (UTC).

Army Mules (December 2011 Update)
Wikipedia page "Army Mules" needs updating. The two latest Army Mules donated to West Point in December 2011 are named Ranger "III" and Stryker. Ranger III is named in honor of all Army Rangers, living and dead. The donor (in perpetuity) for Army Mules continues to be Steve Townes, a 1975 West Point graduate. Articles about the 2 new Army Mules can be found on Google, and a new 3-minute video about Army Mules can be found on YouTube. Article: http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20111210/NEWS/112100335 Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGYWM0hP7xg Steve Townes is CEO of Ranger Aerospace Corporation in Greenville SC. As a cadet, he was Head Rabble Rouser and a Mule Rider.

Other Information: www.rangeraerospace.com; www.rangerinternational.com;  www.rangersaudia.com  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.33.86.66 (talk) 18:14, 11 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Please post your comments to Talk:Army Mules where people interested in the article will see them. —teb728 t c 22:43, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The Army Mules page got updated by an IP user this morning. Could use some references, but otherwise good. However I think this article definitely could be improved.Naraht (talk) 14:25, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Altered Picture...is this okay to use?
Greetings,

Okay, starting over: if an image is altered, both in color and is cropped, may it be used to show the technique of an artist, or is it still copyright infringement. When I say cropped, I mean 2/3 of the painting will be gone. Any ideas? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Norlns22 (talk • contribs) 19:55, 11 December 2011‎ (UTC)
 * An altered image is a derivative work; the alteration does not abrogate the artist’s copyright. But a photo of artwork could be used under Wikipedia’s non-free content policy if the use significantly increases reader understanding of sourced critical discussion of the artist’s technique. And I suppose that if an altered version does that as well as the original, it could be used too. (But wouldn’t color alteration destroy the encyclopedic usefulness?) Non-free content, however, can only be uploaded to Wikipedia. Commons accepts no non-free content. —teb728 t c 22:07, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Good question on the color alteration. The artist's perspective and subject matter are more important than the color in this particular case. It sounds as though Wk Commons' monitors are going to remove all images unless one has something like two certified letters granting permission and the art work is at least 1,000 years old, right? :D Seriously, thanks for your reply and info. I just wish someone had told me not to even attempt to upload anything to Wk Commons. Giant waste of an afternoon. I don't think a pic of my big toe from a smart phone would even pass. Who's to say I'm me.
 * A pic of your big toe from a smart phone would not be harassed if you sourced it as “Own work” and tagged it or equivalent. (But don’t be tempted to pass off a derivative work as your own.) Uploads of supposedly free content (like yours to Commons) that are not sourced to the uploader require proof that the copyright owner has licensed it under a free license (or released it to the public domain). In most cases that proof is handled by a consent letter or email as described in WP:COPYREQ. Other proofs include a free license at the published source or demonstration that the copyright has expired. Even own work may require proof if it was published elsewhere without indicating a free license. —teb728 t c 01:52, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Recreation of deleted page by previously blocked editor
I'm not sure where to ask for help on this one. Today the article Buckland air disaster was created by User:RYAN KIRKPATRICK"2. The article is very similar to one with the same title which was deleted under CSD G5 in May 2011 which was created by User:Ryan kirkpatrick who was banned and blocked indefinitely " because CheckUser confirms that the operator has abusively used one or more accounts." I think I should probably point this out to someone but I'm not sure who?&mdash; Rod talk 21:54, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I've [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Buckland_air_disaster&diff=465358082 tagged] the page for speedy deletion per G5. Goodvac (talk) 22:06, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Article has been deleted, user blocked.  Chzz  ► 23:57, 11 December 2011 (UTC)