Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2011 December 2

= December 2 =

I'd love to donate, but I can't seeing as I'm a 16 year old wihout a paypal or bank account.
As said above, I'd like to be able to donate to you. The Wikimedia foundation is what's great about the internet, almost. I'd like to do my part, but I can't. I was wondering if there was a way where I could send money through the mail or some other similar procedure? Thank you Wikimedia, you've helped me pass my classes with flying colors. <3 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.170.173.115 (talk) 00:43, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * You could send a check or money order via snail mail. See here.  Dismas |(talk) 01:10, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Or, given your age, I'd suggest that you start a money market account and start saving money there, and help us by editing--save up for your education, get a good degree, and then use your expertise to help us write excellent articles. --Nuujinn (talk) 01:22, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Subcategory count
I just noticed, but any particular reason subcategories are being counted as categories? For instance, if a category contains 10 pages and 3 subcats, then the first page will say 3 C, 13 P...10 plus the 3 C. It should be 3 C, 10 P. I don't know but it used to not count this..what is the dealio? Tinton5 (talk) 00:45, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * This was reported in this Village pump thread, but as far as I can see it has been archived without any action being taken. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:15, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Format problem
Could someone please fix List of Harper's Island episodes? Clarityfiend (talk) 01:22, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Done. Just a revert of an edit that removed some code.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:28, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Clarityfiend (talk) 02:00, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

== Photo of Yvonne Swan Wanrow on Wikipedia & the woman by the same name speaking at the AIM Conference in 2009 video do not match, the name, personal bio, history, etc are the same, however the faces do not match up, any idea of why... ==

I am a Lakota scholar & fraud investigator, I have been doing research into the members of the American Indian Movement, & I just did a search of Yvonne Swan Wanrow, & I was amazed to find that the images of her on your Wikipedia site, & on the Utube video of Yvonne Swan Wanrow speaking at the American Indian Movement Conference 2009 do not match with the facial recognition software we have. Do you have any idea of why this discrepancy has occurred, or any reasonable idea why they do not.... Take a look for yourselves. You will see the same thing we have. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.142.177.26 (talk) 01:27, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Can you tell us where you saw her image on Wikipedia, maybe providing a link? The article on her at Yvonne Wanrow contains no photographs or images at all as of now, nor do prior versions in the page history that I looked at. I also searched our sister site, the Wikimedia Commons and found no images of her there. Note that if you found the image on a web site that has "wiki" in its name, it may be entirely unrelated to Wikipedia, which is one of thousands of different wikis.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:38, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

No response
I apologize if this is not in the correct place, but I left a comment at Talk:Winning_(disambiguation) and no one has responded in two weeks due to it being an inactive talk page, and I wish for a response. Thank you. 75.6.252.93 (talk) 01:39, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * OK here's a response: No, it wouldn't be worth it to mention him there. —teb728 t c 02:02, 2 December 2011 (UTC) To expand on my response, any mention would be to some Wikipedia article about "winning" in his context, but there is no such article. —teb728 t c 02:20, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. 75.6.252.93 (talk) 02:23, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Stomach ache
-- Jayron  32  02:46, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia usage out of an iPhone app
Hi,

I would like to use wikipedia out of an iPhone app. Is this allowed and under which circumstances? I would forward the user to the wikipedia URL and let them read the content.

Are there special copyright subject to mention?

Thank you!

Abraham — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.228.88.7 (talk) 03:17, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * You have a browser on your iPhone, right? The mobile version of Wikipedia is at http://en.m.wikipedia.org —teb728 t c 04:09, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Depending on what you are trying to achieve, Reusing Wikipedia content and Mirrors and forks may be relevant. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:21, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Error in Space-based solar power
Look in Space-based solar power article under In space applications it says a laser sbsp? what does it mean it must be a error.Shawn Worthington Laser Plasma (talk) 03:37, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * You should ask at the article talk page, or you could ask User:Beaucouplusneutre, who entered it. —teb728 t c 03:59, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The rest of the article uses the SBSP acronym in uppercase, so I have altered it. If it's still not clear then follow teb728's advice. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:25, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Help me
Hello, wiki staff. I am having a problems here and I really hope you could help. I'm in preparation for a logical math test and couple of months ago I've found an useful list of homework. But now I can't find it anywhere. Please help me! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kuro J (talk • contribs) 05:34, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Try asking your question at Reference desk/Mathematics. -- Jayron  32  05:40, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Content confusion - questioning submission rejection
Hi there,

In relation to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Lee_McAllistair

I would like to question the following reviewer rejection:

'The article was written in a semi-promotional and non-neutral manner. Phrases such as "there are very, very few able to write as convincingly and memorably as McAllistair" are considered to be opinions and are not allowed on Wikipedia. Please re-write this to be encyclopedic and neutral. Tokyogirl79 (talk) 05:17, 2 December 2011 (UTC)tokyogirl79'

For the following reason:

The whole section referred to is a published review in a major national newspaper, The Australian, as referenced in the link. It is not the opinion of the writer, it is a published, referenced review in a major national media outlet. The reviewer seemed to think it was the opinion of the writer - it is clearly referenced. Please reconsider my submission, thank you Jazzhead101Jazzhead101 (talk) 05:25, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Jazzhead101Jazzhead101 (talk) 05:38, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * In that case it is plagiarism (since it is not clearly indicated as a quotation by being enclosed in quotation marks) and copyright violation (since it is copied from a copyrighted article far more extensively than can be justified by fair use / fair dealing). —teb728 t c 06:17, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Do not include the text of the review: Not only is using it a copyright violation; most of the review is unencyclopedic. If readers want to read the review, they can follow your reference link to it. The encyclopedic purpose of the review is that John McBeath of The Australian gave the album a very favorable review. That you have said in the Biography section; there is no need in the article for anything else from the review. Including the text of the review will only get your submission rejected. —teb728 t c 11:42, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for this - to clarify: the review is clearly under a section called 'Reviews' and under the heading of the Review itself including the name of the reviewer, publication and link. Reviews published in national newspapers like the Australian are republished on other jazz sites without copyright infringement issues (including that very review, for example at 'Jazz and Beyond' http://www.jazzandbeyond.com.au/cdreview.html#LeeMcAllistairCD - reviews are meant to be shared publicly, that is why they exist. The reason it is not in quotation marks is because I am used to university protocols whereby passages are indented rather than put in quotation marks. I could not work out how to indent on Wiki. As I said, it is clearly under a heading stating the reviewer name, publication and link.

So far I've been called a plagiarist and a promoter whilst simply trying to document the work of jazz artists on Wiki (this was to be the first of many), and whilst I appreciate the help of volunteers and the service Wiki provides I have found the whole experience singularly un-user-friendly. Thanks for your help - logging off I think.

Jazzhead101 Jazzhead101 (talk) 01:31, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Donations to wiki
I have been thinking of making a donation, however i am unsecure in using my credit card for it. The best way I know is thru a payment gateway, wherein I am comfortable entering my credentials on my banks secure site. Why is wiki not geared for that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.143.78.252 (talk) 07:47, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * There are many ways you can donate, including PayPal, bank transfer, check, eWallet, and Moneybookers: see all the ways to give here. You can find more information about Wikipedia's donor privacy and how they handle payments at the Donor Policy page here. --Colapeninsula (talk) 10:56, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Love In Plain Sight
Why would you take In Plain Sight of the Air that was a good show and y'all need to not conceal that show because a lot of your viewers love that show we need to see Mary & Marchell every week we love them and can not wait to see them each week please bring them back. Don't let it end in the Sring of 2012 that wouldn't be right. In Plain Sight is a wonderful show. I bet if you ask your viewers they would tell you so.

One of your loving fans of In Plain Sightœ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.25.10.77 (talk) 08:58, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I suspect, based on your plea, that you found one of our over 3.7 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no connection to the subject of your question.  —teb728 t c 09:46, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia only provides information about In Plain Sight, so if you want to read about your loved show, click on this blue link to go to the article and for others such as In Plain Sight characters and episodes. Manytexts (talk) 05:44, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Navbox doesn't autocollapse
Why isn't the navbox at the bottom of Wieferich prime autocollapsed? At least it shows up uncollapsed for me, even though the state parameter is set to 'collapsed'. Any idea why this is? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 09:19, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Fixed in the navbox. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:05, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 13:10, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Language change
How do I change d background language of my yahoo mail? I downloaded a new browser and when I opened my yahoo mail box I discorvered that the language there is not a familier one. This has made the use of my mail box difficult. Please how do I change to English language? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.0.10.77 (talk) 11:01, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 3.7 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. —teb728 t c 11:26, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi, with this question, Google is your friend. I entered 'change background language of yahoo mail' on google & a whole bunch of helpful links turned up. You can do the same – click here  and choose the first one 'How do I change my country/language setting?'  . Still having trouble? You can always ask at the Computer Help Desk here . Manytexts (talk) 05:55, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Improved translation not published
Hi Wikipedians,

I improved the translation for Jimmy's letter 002 and 003(URL is given below) in the language Tamil and changed the status to 'proofreading'. However, there is no one did anything about it to publish.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2011/Jimmy_Letter_002/ta https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2011/Jimmy_Letter_003/ta

How long will it usually take to publish? Eventhough I've been using wikipedia for a long time, I involve in editing only now. As per the guidelines given in wikipedia, only the administrator can publish the articles after review.

Is there any way to request an admin to do something upon the revised translation? Even though the existing translation does not contain any major errors, it lacks the natural flavor of the language; seems to have followed word-by-word translation.

Having rewritten in the contemporay style, I hope this improved translation would touch many hearts, to donate for wikipedia.

Arun 11:02, 2 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gpgarun (talk • contribs)
 * From what I can tell, now that you have improved the translation you need a third party to proofread, which requires someone who speaks Tamil to do so, and then to change the edit status to "Ready". The page says that questions should be directed to meta:Talk:Fundraising 2011/Translation but it doesn't look like that page is very active. You might try reaching out to some of the users in Category:Tamil Wikipedians or maybe post a message to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sri Lanka to ask if someone would be willing to act as the missing third party proofreader.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:44, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Citing my sources - technical problems and unwarranted removal
Dear Help editor,

I have made my first edit to the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_model

I have added references to my own researches which at present are only published on my blog.

Therefore the citation should stand.

Many people say that my researches are very important and highly relevant to the current economic crisis. Hence my wish to draw attention to the authors of this wiki-page as well as to the world at large.

I am really struggling to follow wiki instructions and have spent hours yesterday just trying to log in.

I would appreciate some interactive online assistance. Writing my own blog is a doddle compared to this! :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adviser2009 (talk • contribs) 12:26, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * You were reverted by a bot that prevents the addition of Blogspot sources. Blogs are usually unreliable sources and as self published sourced they should almost never be used. Exceptions can be made when the blogs are "produced by an established expert on the topic of the article whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications" Does this apply to you? You should also be aware that Wikipedia is not the place to publish original research. Either way, you are in violation of our guideline on conflicts of interest and if you really feel the source passes our reliable source guidelines you can suggest the addition on the article talk page so an uninvolved editor can add it for you.  Я ehevkor  ✉  12:40, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Different content in different languages
Hi I was looking at this page about Asia- firstly found two option- first one was good - but was in Norsk I suppose and the other in English, but the contents were completely different. What is wanted was content in norsk to be also in English, but it take me to other page if I change the Language.

So my question is - Why do you have difference in content based on language ? Shouldn't there be only one page per topic- since its wiki (you can have same page translated in other language)

both documents have different set of information and is same like using different websites and not wiki.

Konika — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.241.81.188 (talk) 12:46, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Our volunteer editors (none are paid) write about things they think important, in the languages in which they are comfortable. A few spend much of their time translating, thus improving poor articles on topics that are better covered in other languages, and more such work would be appreciated. For example, some articles about technical aspects of electrical power distribution are more thorough in German than in English, which will improve if someone does a good translation.  Jim.henderson (talk) 12:59, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Each language's Wikipedia is independent. The guidelines under which each operates are determined by consensus among the editors of that particular Wikipedia.  There is no process by which an edit made in the Wikipedia in one language can readily be translated into the separate Wikipedias of the numerous other languages which may have an article on a similar topic.  [We certainly wouldn't trust a machine translation to do so, and there aren't enough bilingual editors to cope with that size of workload, considering the numbers of edits which are made each day.]  Editors of the Wikipedia in language A are, of course, welcome to look at the corresponding articles in other languages, and if they find material which is supported by reliable sources they can include that in the article in language A. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:01, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * If you don't mind a machine translation for your personal use, you could translate the Norsk article with Google Translate or some other service. —teb728 t c 13:08, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Translation further discusses the ongoing efforts at diffusing knowledge among languages. Jim.henderson (talk) 13:11, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Does this logo have the right license?
. I'm curious because someone recently replaced it with a much lower quality/outdated logo used in an sec filing two years ago.Grmike (talk) 13:18, 2 December 2011 (UTC)grmike


 * I would have thought that the use of Template:PD-textlogo was open to question in this case, but others may have different views. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:29, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Resolved, the other user just let me know that licensing was correct. Grmike (talk) 14:31, 2 December 2011 (UTC)grmike


 * Not resolved. I think there is sufficient creativity in the design of the logo for it to be copyrightable. I think the image should be moved to Wikipedia and used under the NFCC. And it most certainly isn't your own work - you may have created the svg file, but that does not make it your work. – ukexpat (talk) 14:41, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I had this logo confused with another.Grmike (talk) 16:17, 2 December 2011 (UTC)grmike


 * I didn't make the design but I did make the file. Regarding it being my own work: I didn't have to make significant changes other than cut the background out and attach it to the lettering (the background/image aren't attached at the source), I thought I might be able to use own.  A lot of times logos need to be modified if they are raster or below (more recently, companies have made it very difficult if not impossible to extract svg logos (reports by companies from 2010 and up) and so frequently they need to be traced or redrawn).  Other times the logos at company sites are not identical to the main source used to make the files for wikipedia, since bitmaps can be difficult to trace parts of older logos at pdf files are used to make the new file.Grmike (talk) 17:22, 2 December 2011 (UTC)grmike


 * The "Source" parameter is for the source of the file, so for the images that I have created and uploaded to Commons (such as File:2010 Cervelo RS 01.jpg), Own is appropriate. For situations like this logo, where you have created the file from another or modified it but not done anything creative with it that would give rise to a separate copyrightable image, it is not appropriate. – ukexpat (talk) 19:06, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll concede that in this case but don't underestimate the time and effort that goes into redrawing logos. In many cases that requires more creativity than many of the photos uploaded at random by people on commons.  Redrawing logos where the available sources only provide horrible quality that even in infobox size isn't suitable, I've done a number of times to the benefit of the article and wikipedia.  In those cases, the person uploading the file is obviously doing more than just uploading/extracting an image.Grmike (talk) 03:57, 3 December 2011 (UTC)grmike


 * Speaking as someone who has also redrawn logos in this manner, I'd question your implied eqivocation of "time and effort" with "creativity". If you are recreating a company's logo you should have no creative claim to it at all. Where it is an accurate recreation, any copyright claim remains with the original creator or it remains copyright ineligible. If, on the other hand, you have have been sufficiently creative to justify claiming copyright on the new work then it is no longer an accurate representation of the company and it would be unsuitable for use on Wikipedia.  AJ  Cham  13:43, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Discussion
Can someone close this 2 month old discussion, that I tagged to request a close 3 weeks ago. C T J F 8 3 13:41, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Transfering file
Can you transfer this file on Commons. I suppose it doesn't pass the threshold of originality.--79.27.56.92 (talk) 14:18, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * You may consider asking the experts at Media copyright questions C T J F 8 3  14:23, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Even if it were acceptable, the backlog of Transfer to Commons is mind-boggling. Rmhermen (talk) 14:29, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Amusing. Page header on Category:Move to Commons: This page has a backlog. This notice will appear when there are ten items in the category. There are currently 286,575 files tagged as needing transfer. Rmhermen (talk) 14:36, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Transferring to Commons is a thankless task and the automated tools never seem to work for me. That said, involvement by more users in that particular task is always welcome. – ukexpat (talk) 16:25, 2 December 2011 (UTC) – ukexpat (talk) 16:25, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Where is this category? Category:Move to Commons doesn't exist.  Dismas |(talk) 18:53, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Category:Copy to Wikimedia Commons (bot-assessed), Category:Copy to Wikimedia Commons. CharlieEchoTango  ( contact ) 18:58, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Dismas |(talk) 19:00, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * In my opinion, it exceeds the Threshold of originality, because of the unusual font and positioning of the characters. It's quite debatable - especially given that it is a US image; e.g. the SKYY Vodka case, mentioned here. But for me, this is just over the threshold, otherwise I would have just moved it for you, myself. I could be wrong in my assessment, but I prefer to err on the side of caution. If you want further opinions to see if it could be moved, I suggest asking on WP:MCQ.  Chzz  ►  20:50, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Infobox Model
Hello. Is there a way to add a new parameter, giving the "years active" for the model? This parameter is located inside the person infobox, and I believe it is important for readers to know when a particular model began their career. In addition, some models are actors, but are given a model infobox to give information about their height, weight, shoe size, etc, in addition to basic birth date, location and name. If there is a way to add a years active field, that would be great. Thank you so much. Tinton5 (talk) 14:25, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Take a look at Infobox model and you will see that the parameter is there (| yearsactive  =). – ukexpat (talk) 14:46, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

WIKI Donate
Hi guys.

You know, I can make regular donations, but current payment systems is not so comfortable for Russian region (where I live). Really, easy to use for me it's QUIWI or Yandex.Money. So, I guess, it will be good idea for you to integrate those payment systems. Integration of one of them will be great! And easy to make donations for people like me.

-- cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.74.128.134 (talk) 14:31, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I have copied your message to the Wikimedia website, where you may get better answers: please see meta:Talk:Fundraising_2011.


 * You could also contact the fund-raising team by email, problemsdonating@wikimedia.org

 Chzz  ► 20:16, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

My Wiki book has disappeared
I am trying to compile a Wiki book of selected articles for later PDF printing, but when I log into my account from another computer, the book no longer appears. When I come back to the first computer, the book was there, but today, it is gone. What is going on with this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr.thomas.gardner (talk • contribs) 16:05, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but we're not going to be able to guess without you telling us the name of the book. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:36, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Only autoconfirmed or confirmed users can save books. I have confirmed your account so you should now have a save option for books. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:28, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

texts
What does 'top hit' mean next to text messages? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.253.71.164 (talk) 17:10, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Where? What kind of text messages? On an internet page? On Wikipedia? On a mobile phone?
 * I'm imagine it refers to page hits, but without knowing more details, it is hard to tell.  Chzz  ► 20:11, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Image Gallery Question 2
Following a suggestion here that a Wikiproject would be a good place to house an image gallery of free to use images, I proposed a project. I also notified several editors, made a joint proposal with the hope of more interest. Recieved no replies even though the editors asked have been active. As I thought initially, there is not enough man power to create a wikiproject. Only a few interested editors.

This was to do with images for Home and Away. I'd like to create a gallery still. What title is best for it? "Talk:Home and Away/Free-use images" or "Home and Away/Free-use images". Rain the One  BAM 18:15, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Subpages are not permitted in mainspace (article namespace). - David Biddulph (talk) 18:34, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Probably best to use  MilborneOne (talk) 18:48, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Thankyou for the suggestion. I did use the category at commons initially, but there are now over 200 files and growing, wanted more of a sortable solution but with them all in view without clicking sub categories. So could I create a sandbox with all the images for personal viewing - then anyone else could just look in the sandbox? I assume I could use a mass of free images in a sandbox, but it is best to check. Rain the One  BAM 21:03, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * You can create articles on Commons which are essentially galleries. Rmhermen (talk) 16:54, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Transferring files to commons
Can commonshelper be used to transfer svg files from wikipedia ---> svg files on commons? or is the end result alway a png image?Grmike (talk) 19:08, 2 December 2011 (UTC)grmike
 * The CommonsHelper 2 tool describes itself as "A tool to transfer files from Wikimedia projects to Wikimedia Commons ". I don't think it manipulates the content of the files in any way. See Moving files to the Commons. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:14, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia Loves Libraries
Is it feasible to host a library event in the spring? In our academic calendar year the best date would be March 31, 2012. We propose to have a Wikipedia Loves Libraries event focused on the environment and invite participantes to fact check articles using the library resources at Cottey College in Nevada, MO, USA. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Becky Brock Kiel (talk • contribs) 21:06, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Please post directly at the discussion page for the Wikipedia Loves Libraries project, here: Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Loves Libraries. I would also recommend contacting the Wikipedians in your area for planning and whatnot, check out Meetup for past events and perhaps also WikiProject Missouri.--  Obsidi ♠ n   Soul   22:59, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Movie title
I have tried very hard to track down a movie horror/mystery I saw a long time ago and precisely in the Autumn of 1973 at the Metropole Cinema London SW1 just before the big movies Magnum Force and Live and Let Die. Memories have faded unfortunately I do not have names of actors or any other links in connection. I can just remember when it started there was a mystery about deaths of people, then a medieval building with a great sun coming in someone sitting there hearing of people dying, towards the end of the film everything was crushing down and a young couple holding close managed to survive because they loved each other. Not a big film but quite unforgettable. I have been able to track down other films with very little information but not this one. I have been browsing through thousand I also watched many on line but without success. I have nothing else to try. I would be grateful if you could come up with something even if it is not right. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.146.182.142 (talk) 21:11, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * You could try starting to browse 1973 in film. — Edokter  ( talk ) — 21:24, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Symbol_move_vote.svg Have you tried the section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia.  For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: [ click here] . I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:27, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

where to suggest a change
A lot of Wikipedia instructions tell people to post "on the talk page". However, it isn't obvious where this means, since the page is not labelled "talk page" but is labelled "discussion". This is very confusing. Where can I suggest a change in the label from "Discussion" to "Talk page" to match all the instructions? Ideally, a place where there could be action taken. (184.147.120.119 (talk) 21:30, 2 December 2011 (UTC))


 * Village pump (proposals)--  Obsidi ♠ n   Soul   22:51, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. (184.147.120.119 (talk) 23:07, 2 December 2011 (UTC))

Is this the info you need?
References on Lacey Logan:

Link to Internet Adult Film Database (Iafd) Link to Internet Movie Database (Imbd) Facebook Twitter

Films by Lacey Logan: Strictly Business with Randy West (as Lacey Logan), Fantasy Chamber (as Lacy Logan), Dialing for Desires (as Dina Rice), Backstage (as Lacey Logan), etc.

Also, how do I upload an image to this page?

Thanks, LL — Preceding unsigned comment added by LCLogan (talk • contribs) 21:32, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Begin by reading WP:PORNBIO. Does she (you?) fulfill the criteria there? (If not the article will be deleted as non-notable.) If so, add to the article a statement of how she fulfills the criteria: for example: “She won the AVN award for in .” As a reference add to the article a citation to a reliable source that verifies the statement. —teb728 t c 22:45, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Create Wikipedia page
How do you create a Wikipedia page and link it to a company name? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.208.174.34 (talk) 21:46, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
 * You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.


 * Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.


 * If you still think an article is appropriate, see Your first article and How to write a great article, and please consider taking a tour through the Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. An Article Wizard is available to walk you through creating an article, but you will need to create an account to use it. if you don't wish to do so, you can submit a proposal for an article at Articles for Creation. —teb728 t c 22:21, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Cannot save an edit due to spam filter
On my userpage, I want to add some external links which I intend to add to an article later. However, that edit cannot be saved and I get a message saying "Your edit was not saved because it contains a new external link to a site registered on Wikipedia's blacklist." Is there a way to override or disable that spam filter for my userpage? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 21:50, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

The filter seems to be triggered by http://www.google.de/url?. What can I do to override this. The links I want to add are not spam links. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 22:04, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * You could save it if you take off the http part. (But if this is an external link you want to add to an article later, you will run afoul of the spam filter then.) —teb728 t c 22:07, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelist is the place to request the whitelisting of specific URLs, but it depends on the context, i.e. why it was blacklisted in the first place and if whitelisting will be productive. Are you sure it's the google.de causing this? I did a test and I didn't have any issues.  Я ehevkor ✉  22:30, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * The exact link triggering the filter is


 * http://www.gooogle.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=guy%20the%20primes%201093%20and%203511%20math%20student%201967&source=web&cd=11&ved=0CBwQFjAAOAo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmath.ca%2FStudents%2FNewsletter%2FMarch2001%2Fcmsletter1.ps&ei=0jDZToWVF4XQhAfvtZnjDg&usg=AFQjCNHBwBFoNRox_tC857Gr7gIf_rirmg


 * (The word google is supposed to have two os, written that way here to circumvent the filter for the post of this url here)I wanted to add it to my userpage to investigate later, how I can open the document (it seems to download a ghostscript file). I believe that file might be source useful for improving an article. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 22:33, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Save it as http://math.ca/Students/Newsletter/March2001/cmsletter1.ps As for opening it, ask at the reference desk. —teb728 t c 22:56, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Awesome, thanks TEB. Now I can log out and investigate this further tomorrow without loosing the link. :) Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 23:03, 2 December 2011 (UTC)