Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2011 December 28

= December 28 =

Request article translation (German to English)
Please help translate to rhenium hexafluoride.TCO (talk) 00:23, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Crossing out text
On my userpage, how do I cross out text in the new GUI? Thanks!--SR-71 pilot (talk) 01:33, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you mean by "the new GUI" but you can use standard strike tags, like so: strike . That help?  Dismas |(talk) 01:39, 28 December 2011 (UTC)


 * (edit conflict) I'm not sure what you refer to. What new GUI? This is Wikipedia. Your user page would be created at User:SR-71 pilot but it doesn't exist currently. The post here is the first edit by your account. If you want strike through text like this then place it in ... tags. If you use an editing tool and don't want to add the tags manually then the method depends on the tool. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:43, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't know about any new GUI, but does the old-fashioned strikeout not work? Surround the text you want to strike out with and . Tonywalton Talk 01:45, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I think the reference to the new GUI is a reference to this Oops, my guess was wrong, but I do not see how to do strikeout there -- SPhilbrick  (Talk)  16:23, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks guys, you answered my question. I meant the "new GUI" because I am coming back after one year, and found the GUI doesn't have templates for strikeout. --SR-71 pilot (talk) 16:25, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Citing more than one pages from a merged reference
Is their a way to cite more than one pages of a web source from a merged reference? I found something similar for a book reference but not the method for websites. September88 (talk) 01:50, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I guess that by 'merged reference' you mean referencing different pages of the same work. You could put links to the website pages (perhaps using more than one cite web template) between the same ... tags; but why not simply list each reference separately? See for example: references 9 - 19 on List of tallest buildings in the world which, although needing some cleanup, correctly cites different pages from ctbuh.org in a manner that is clear and easy to understand.  Astronaut (talk) 02:51, 28 December 2011 (UTC)


 * You're right, better to cite individually or it gets too messy. September88 (talk) 16:03, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

HD template description error?
The Help Desk Template page lists HD as a template, but the space where the explanation should be says "Not displaying properly? Purge this page." Is something wrong on the page? (Clicking the purge link did not help) RudolfRed (talk) 03:23, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * No. That sentence is merely a preliminary remark above the real explanation of the template, which starts with the "Usage" section and continues with the big table of sub-templates that follows. The "purge" link is needed because that table is transcluded from another page, Template:HD/doc. If that other page is edited, the copy shown on the WP:HDT page may sometimes get out of date unless it is purged. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:47, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the explanation. RudolfRed (talk) 19:15, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Using Cite video for a music track?
I asked what citation template to use for an album track the other day in the section on this page titled "Citing a track on an album?" I was told to use Cite video. I looked at the documentation, and it seems to only be written with directions for how to cite video recordings. I can't figure out how to use it for an audio recording. Can anyone help? - Purplewowies (talk) 03:36, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Reading some of the comments on the talk page for the video template, someone points out that Citation can be used for CDs. Use "CD" in the format field and put track in the chapter field.  The context was citing an audiobook, but perhaps that might work for your purpose as well.  RudolfRed (talk) 04:27, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I didn't use the Citation template (every other ref template in the article is Cite xxx), but your reply did help me figure out how to use the Cite video template. Thank you! - Purplewowies (talk) 06:08, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

David Combe
The photo with DAVID COMBE, the former ALP national secretary, is not of him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.69.90.8 (talk) 04:28, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The photo appears to have been taken by User:Bjenks. You can contact him to ask him about it.  -- Jayron  32  05:00, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Aricle verification.
Hi, I had posted one article about Paramahansa Prajnanananda. But it got rejected citing reliable and verifiable sources. I have various sites which bolsters my article. please visit www.kriya.org or www.prajnanamission.org to verify this article. Kindly help.

Thanks and Regards, Ratikanta — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ratikanta.panda (talk • contribs) 07:11, 28 December 2011 (UTC)


 * You may want to take a look at WP:RS (our page on what constitute Reliable Sources) and make sure the sources you are using are considered reliable. Where did you post the article?  There was an article Paramahansa Prajnanananda but it was delete in 2008.  The only contribution for your current account is this post so you may have posted it while not logged in.  RJFJR (talk) 16:13, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The page is slightly misspelled, but there is a section heading with the correct spelling. —teb728 t c 23:19, 28 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Both http://www.kriya.org and http://www.prajnanamission.org are owned by Kriya Yoga and so they are not independent reliable sources for the Kriya Yoga current spiritual leader. Even if they had be acceptable sources, neither is cited in the draft article, which cites no sources whatsoever. All content in Wikipedia must be verifiable by references to reliable sources, and those that demonstrate the notability of the subject must be independent of the subject. —teb728 t c 01:51, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Google maps as reference
Can I use google maps as reference? There is this article about a small town which obviously doesn't have enough published references. The town has many neighborhoods with different names which are listed in the article but has no reliable citation. I want to find the neighborhoods on google maps and then put google maps link as reference by each neighborhood. Will that be accepted? Hazara Birar (Talk) 07:26, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * No, we discourage links to search engine results, as they are not stable. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  13:50, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Check with WikiProject Maps. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 16:16, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Tennis question
how old u have to be to play jr. fed cup — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.236.116.219 (talk) 08:41, 28 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Junior Davis Cup and Junior Fed Cup has a link to the Junior Fed Cup page on the ITF website. There is a rules and regulations link from there, and the answer is on page 66 of the regulations. Note for the future that this help page is about how to use and edit Wikipedia, so your question would be more appropriate for the reference desk. - David Biddulph (talk) 09:41, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * That question, specifically in the Entertainment Reference desk. 71.146.26.8 (talk) 00:16, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

About lens & lenses
Hello. I'm user of ru-wiki and my English is very bad. But, please, I need a help. There is the featered article Panavision. I translate it for Russian Wikipedia. And I have one problem. I want to understand difference between the words lens and lense in the article. Authors of Panavision have wrote as lens and lense. Where's lens=objective glass, and where's lense=lense??? Thanks. What&#39;sGoingOn (talk) 11:31, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you are asking, but perhaps the Wiktionary entry, lens, will help you? -- John of Reading (talk) 11:22, 28 December 2011 (UTC)


 * The word "lens" is the singular, = "objective glass", and "lenses" is the plural, = "objective glasses". The word "lense" does not appear in the article; that would be an incorrect spelling. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:57, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * lense is not a misspelling, it's an alternate spelling of lens. See http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lense.  The Mark of the Beast (talk) 19:26, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * You'd better fix Wiktionary, Chambers and Oxford then. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:40, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't know why I would be responsible for fixing anything, but Merriam-Webster has no problem with it: http://www.merriam-webster.com/medical/lense. The Mark of the Beast (talk) 20:20, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Apologies -- John of Reading (talk) 22:36, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Cheetahs
According to two cheetahs died 24 Dec 11. Sounds unlikely. Kittybrewster  &#9742;  13:18, 28 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Seems to have been fixed now.--Shantavira|feed me 16:57, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * i disagree. i just added a "dubious" tag. Kittybrewster  &#9742;  17:21, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Different tables seperate to columns
hello,

in User:GreatOrangePumpkin/Sandbox13, how to seperate the five tables into three columns? It does not work with the col-end template; I want to attain a similar design like here, but more spaces between the tables. And like there, it should be put in a hidden template. Any help appreciated. Thanks. ♫GoP♫ T C N 13:35, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Cite Template: Difference between 'Work' &' Publsiher'?
When citing a web and a newspaper when do we use the 'work' and when 'publisher'?

{cite web.....|work=|publisher=|...}

I can't seem to understand the difference between the two sections. September88 (talk) 16:03, 28 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Isn't it relatively clear from the appropriate entries at Template:Cite web? Note that Template:Cite news does not have a "work" parameter. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:09, 28 December 2011 (UTC)


 * See Help:Citation Style 1. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 16:12, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I confess I'm probably not consistent in my use of the two fields, but I think of "work" as the specific publication, while "publisher" is the name of the organization responsible for the publication. For example, when citing something from The Boston Globe, I would use The Boston Globe as "work" but The New York Times Company as publisher.-- SPhilbrick  (Talk)  16:19, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * According to Template:Cite web/doc, work typically gives the name of the website, whereas publisher gives the entity that owns the website. It gives the example publisher=Walmart|work=walmart.com. —teb728 t c 00:41, 29 December 2011 (UTC) Oh, and another example is publisher=WikiMedia Foundation|work=en.wikipedia.org. —teb728 t c 05:38, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Fixing Interwikis?
Let's say I have an article for hand in 20 languages and an article for foot in 20 languages. A new article on the hand is added in Bengali (just to pick a language) but when the page is created, the interwiki language link from that article is sent to the english article on the foot. There is a bot that will then link the bengali article to the foot in 19 other articles and add an interwiki link to the Bengali article from all 20 articles on the foot. What is the cleanest way to change this? Do all 21 articles need to be edited or is there a way to do this cleanly? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naraht (talk • contribs)
 * Wouldn't that throw up a conflict tag? Here is the documentation. Rmhermen (talk) 17:54, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Face Book like button
I think using a FaceBook like button would help you get more publicity. Polly Parks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.250.73.216 (talk) 17:20, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * With what object? Kittybrewster  &#9742;  17:22, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * This is already one of the ten most widely visited websites on the planet; why on Earth do you think we need more publicity? -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  18:45, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * We're only #8. We have 7 spots to climb. :)
 * 166.250.73.216's suggestion is a great idea, but Wikipedia is noctoriously resistant to change. We'll eventually have one, but it might take a few years. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 19:56, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Oops, spoke too soon. A share button would be a great idea.  A like button wouldn't do anything and would overlap with our article feedback mechanism. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 20:21, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Some Wikipedians support this idea; but many of our most productive editors consider it a horrible degradation of the site, and have even threatened to quit editing if such toys start cluttering up the encyclopedia. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  20:05, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * My sources tell me that sharing features like this are in progress. Prodego  talk  20:08, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Hello
Uhmm Wait, so we cannot use photoshop? --My Sistemx (talk) 19:28, 28 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Um, I mean in WikiProject Graphic lab said we can use Gimp, but if i use photoshop, that means the picture is copyrighted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sistemx (talk • contribs) 19:31, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Can you provide a link where it says that? That would help us to answer your question.  RudolfRed (talk) 20:00, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Nevermind seems I misunderstood something. My Sistemx (talk) 20:39, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

User name is misspelled
Hi, I can figure out how to change my user name....I accidentally created a page for myself and typed a "DOT" between my first and last name as the 'create a page" made it seem that this would be my user name not the name they'd be USING for the public. How do I remove the 'dot' between Lois.Cahall.

Thank you Lois Cahall Lois Cahall (talk) 19:35, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Please visit: Changing username/Simple. You can request a change at that page. Jarkeld (talk) 19:40, 28 December 2011 (UTC)


 * The page which you have created is your user page, not an article in Wikipedia mainspace. If you were thinking of writing a Wikipedia article about yourself, this isn't encouraged; please read WP:Autobiography and WP:COI. - David Biddulph (talk) 20:45, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Donations
For God sake, don't you have a e-mail address, guys? I love wikipedia, but I like to be anonimus... why, on Earth, would you need all information about me when I want to make a donation? I'll donate only if I do not need to provide any information about me! 193.19.188.35 (talk) 20:48, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Look at this page -- it shows many different ways to donate. Perhaps one of those will work for you.   You can also write to problemsdonating@wikimedia.org to express your concern and maybe they can find a solution for you.   RudolfRed (talk) 21:56, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Vinay Maloo article
Hello, I am an independent user of Wikipedia and my knowledge of Indian businessmen is thorough. There are some objections on top of "Vinay Maloo" which need to be removed. There are over 100,000 press references to him on Google and Yahoo searches. Please do the needful as I am unable to do anything.

Thank you.

Sincerely, Ravi Paul — Preceding unsigned comment added by Indiatalk (talk • contribs) 20:51, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * the article suffers from WP:RS and WP:V problems. Kittybrewster  &#9742;  21:30, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The page is not protected, so you can edit it yourself Be Bold. Since you have identified references, why not go ahead and add them to the page?  See Help:Editing or Referencing for Beginners if you need help. RudolfRed (talk) 21:37, 28 December 2011 (UTC)