Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2011 December 8

= December 8 =

How do I create this page?
Hi there, how do I create a page which will be very similar to the Master Locksmiths Associationv page without you guys pulling it down for blatant advertsing or self promotion? I'd like to include information about the Master Locksmiths Association of Australasia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Morro10 (talk • contribs) 02:59, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Have you read FAQ/Organizations? -- Jayron  32  04:23, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

a bout smile to africa adventure
do you know that smile to Africa adventure like wikipedia discussion — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smileto africa (talk • contribs) 06:39, 8 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Welcome. I guess you are referring to http://www.smiletoafricaadventure.com/. I don't exactly understand your question, but if you want to create an article about that organization here in Wikipedia, you will have to establish that organizations notability (see the specific specific guidelines for organizations). Also, we have a policy regarding the appropriateness of usernames. Yours might not comply with WP:CORPNAME. It might also be helpful to read about what Wikipedia is not and Introduction to get an impression of what the purpose of Wikipedia is. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 08:18, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
 * User now blocked per the really obvious username issue. The Blade of the Northern Lights  ( 話して下さい ) 14:45, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Purusha Sukta
My question concerns information on Wikipedia about the "Purusha Sukta." Wikipedia is asking for "experts" to comment on the page about this ancient Indian literary contribution, which the UNESCO placed on the World Heritage list. I would like to edit the page to add the fact that the central thesis of the Purusha-Sukta--which is the origin of the caste system in India--does not say anywhere that one is born a Brahman, or a Sudra. Once can discern that simply from reading what the text says. How can I edit the page? I am a professor at Minnesota State University in the US. - Dr. Patil — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.91.101.54 (talk) 09:47, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
 * There is an EDIT tab at the top of the page. The article in question has been "tagged" as needing the attention of an expert, so your contribution would be welcome. As an academic, you will be familiar with the idea that statements have to be supported by reliable references. That would include any "fact" that is likely to be challenged or disputed. Tigerboy1966 (talk) 10:28, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
 * If you've not edited anything here before, then you may like to look at Help:Editing and Cheatsheet. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:33, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
 * One difference between Wikipedia and academia is that Wikipedia does not accept original research. Information here must be based on what is already published in reliable sources. —teb728 t c 13:18, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

My wikipedia page is appearing on Facebook
We have created a page on wikipedia, but some of the content appears on Facebook in a search for our company name. How can I control this?

Vpltd (talk) 10:46, 8 December 2011 (UTC)


 * You can't and we can't - facebook automatically pulls content from Wikipedia to populate it's pages. --Cameron Scott (talk) 10:47, 8 December 2011 (UTC)


 * [[Image:Symbol move vote.svg|20px]] Facebook community pages may incorporate content from Wikipedia— such use complies with Wikipedia policies on reuse of content. We at Wikipedia have no control over how the content is included nor can we help to remove it. Facebook does have a topic on Community pages and profile connections on their Help Center. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:52, 8 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Vpltd - in simple terms, you have no ownership or control over your contributions to Wikipedia. Within fairly broad limits, anyone may amend or reuse your Wikipedia contributions as they wish. You may find it helpful to read our policy on ownership of articles and our guideline on conflicts of interest. Gandalf61 (talk)

What's all the Hubbub, bub?
I recently saw an article about the Phoenix AZ haboob and wondered if it was etymologically related to the word "hubub" and so I searched for the word hubbub in your archive but wound up in some article about a goddamned awful discovery channel venture. Though I eventually found out, on dictionary.com, that hubbub comes from Gaelic for a sound of opprobrium or discord I was wondering if a disambiguation page linking to both the literal meaning of the word as well as the discovery channel product might be in order? Thank you for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.246.253.236 (talk) 11:42, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia doesn't aim to be a dictionary; you might like to look at the sister project Wictionary. I have this installed as one of my browser's search options and use it constantly. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:46, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
 * There's a page on it at Wiktionary. - Purplewowies (talk) 15:48, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Article
Dear Wikipedia, I am writing a research paper for school and I used your website for information. I am now writing my bibliography and I need to know when it was written. I am doing the Colosseum and it is really important for me. Please help. From, WIkipedia User — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.38.100.57 (talk) 14:07, 8 December 2011 (UTC)


 * See Citing Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:12, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Disambiguation
Needs a better navigation: Thank you, 93.130.157.5 (talk) 15:16, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Preaching To The Perverted (album)
 * Preaching to the Perverted (movie)
 * Preaching To The Perverted (movie soundtrack) by Fuzztones
 * Don't forget The Best of Pigface: Preaching to the Perverted. It seems a disambiguation page at Preaching To The Perverted/Preaching to the Perverted (one redirecting to the other) would be useful, instead of Preaching To The Perverted and Preaching to the Perverted each redirecting to separate articles. --Colapeninsula (talk) 16:20, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Looks like Kittybrewster is sorting this one out. Thanks for bringing it up.  Я ehevkor ✉  16:26, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Tried to. Not convinced of their notability. Don't understand why the film#soundtrack does not have the same tracks as the Fuzztones album . Kittybrewster  &#9742;  17:15, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Roxanna Panufnik
The entry on me, in Wikipedia, is several years out of date and doesn't mention my website. How can I update it? Best wishes, Roxanna Panufnik — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.40.179.130 (talk • contribs) 16:35, 8 December 2011‎ (UTC)


 * The article Roxanna Panufnik does have a link to your website. In general, you should not update an article about yourself, so it is good that you asked;  please read the guidelines on conflict of interest.  Your best bet may be to suggest changes at Talk:Roxanna Panufnik, with references to reliable sources for the information. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:46, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Article has a misleading sentence
The article states that autopsy is performed by a pathologist by a request from a coroner or a medical examiner. This is slightly misleading, since medical examiners are "forensic pathologists" and they perform autopsies by themselves. States where elected coroners are present instead of medical examiners, coroners examine the bodies just like medical examiners do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.185.158.21 (talk) 17:23, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for editing the article yourself and making Wikipedia better! We appreciate your contributions.--Slon02 (talk) 23:30, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Editing Reference Links
hey there, I was on David Berman the musician's page and noticed that the link to Pitchfork's article about the band ending was broken, and I wrote to them and got the updated link, which is:

http://www.pitchfork.com/news/34455-silver-jews-david-berman-calls-it-quits/

it is cited as references 3 and 4 on the page. is reference link editing only an option for registered users?

thank you! Matthew — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.8.92.199 (talk) 17:24, 8 December 2011 (UTC)


 * You should be able to edit it. Click on the little blue a link a  alongside the reference 3 in the reference section, and that will take you to where the reference is defined.  Click the edit link at the top of that section. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:36, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I've fixed it, but David is correct. You can also look at Help:Footnotes for more information. - Purplewowies (talk) 17:39, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Username for a New Account Regarded as too Similar
Hello,

I was trying to make a user account with my standard web username "barcarole". I saw that it had been taken, and when I sought to use my typical alternative "b4rcarole", I was told is was too close to the user who had "barcarole". As it stands, it appears that the user "barcarole" doesn't even utilize their account for anything, not that I wish to take their username, but I would really like to use "b4rcarole". I have come across multiple articles from time to time that have been vandalized and reverted them and wanted to edit others, so I wanted to make an account, but I would like to operate under a common username of mine. Thank you.

-Tommy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.110.242.7 (talk) 17:58, 8 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I would suggest that you read WP:Usurp. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:08, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

st. catharines jail
The St. Catharines Jail did not exist. It was the Lincoln County Jail, on Niagara Street. Here is a picture of it:

http://www.nflibrary.ca/nfplindex/show.asp?id=101220&b=1

If you search St. Catharines Jail you will find it also listed in the Ontario Jails, closed.

Interesting to note- this particular jail was used as a restaurant for a very short period of time before it was demolished. People were actually HUNG on the grounds as well when it was a prison- I remember the the gallows outside when walking by as a kid. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.180.89.190 (talk) 21:10, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I have copied your comment to Talk:List of correctional facilities in Ontario, where it will be seen by the editors most interested in developing that article. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:29, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

K5 Glass
What is K5 Glass? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.115.253.163 (talk) 22:31, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Symbol_move_vote.svg Have you tried the section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia.  For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: [ click here] . I hope this helps. —teb728 t c 01:41, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

IPA code for Danish
Hello, I was trying to add an IPA for the Egtved Girl article, because the Danish word 'Egtved' is difficult to pronounce in English, but I was unsuccessful. For some reason I can't get the IPA code right. I don't plan on having an audio pipe on the IPA. Thanks, -- Gourami Watcher    (Gulp) 23:29, 8 December 2011 (UTC)


 * You have to insert  to get  or   to get . Templates named "IPAc-xx" provide the option for using a separate parametre for each letter of the alphabet or IPA symbol. IPAc-en, IPAc-fr, IPAc-ar are some of them, but Template:IPAc-da currently doesn't exist. By the way, are you sure the Danish IPA shouldn't be  instead? --Theurgist (talk) 00:58, 9 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you! You are most likely right with your version of the IPA since mine was only a rough pronunciation. -- Gourami Watcher    (Gulp)13:36, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Search Wikipedia for Montrose Star and I get Houston Voice
I own Montrose Star. A former independent contractor, Justin Galloway, is deceiving the public by changing our Wiki page to read Houston Voice.

How can I stop him from accessing and editing our wikipedia page?

lv (talk) 23:55, 8 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Montrose Star redirects to Houston Voice. Unless there is a very good reason, a paper that changed names/owners/etc and which is essentially the same newspaper now as it was "then" should have only one article.  That article should explain the entire history of the changes using reliable sources.  Right now, that article is going through a process by which the editors here are deciding whether it should be deleted or not due to the requirements that we have for notability.  You, as the owner, should not be editing any articles directly related to either paper since you have an obvious conflict of interest.  If you like, you can make suggestions for changes on the article's talk page though don't expect every change you suggest to be made.  Dismas |(talk) 00:19, 9 December 2011 (UTC)


 * (edit conflict): It is not your Wikipedia page, and you cannot stop anybody from editing it.
 * It appears that people associated with the current and previous organs called the Montrose Star are engaging in an edit war, and they should both read WP:WAR, WP:COI and WP:CORP. It is especially unwelcome for people to bring an existing dispute into Wikipedia.


 * If one or both organs meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability, there can be articles about them; but I see that the existing article is up for deletion: unsurprising, since it does not appear to cite a single independent source.


 * If there end up being articles about both, there should be either a disambiguation page, or else the articles need to have distinct names and should have hatnotes pointing to each other. If just one of them is found to meet the notability criterion, it seems likely that the other should get a mention in the article - presuming the independent reliable sources can be found which mentions the other. --ColinFine (talk) 00:25, 9 December 2011 (UTC)