Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2011 February 16

= February 16 =

Rating bar on the article
On abortion, bottommost, there is a rating bar. I've never seen it before on any other articles and when I clicked edit I can't see any codes behind it. Do you have any links to explanation for this (perhaps) new feature of Wikipedia? --Rattakorn c (talk) 01:54, 16 February 2011 (UTC)


 * See Article Feedback Tool. At present, on the English Wikipedia, the pilot project is being used for articles within the scope of WikiProject United States Public Policy. BencherliteTalk 01:58, 16 February 2011 (UTC)


 * (ec) It's a hidden category called Article Feedback Pilot. If you follow the link, you can learn more about it. It is in the code of the article.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:03, 16 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you both :) --Rattakorn c (talk) 03:19, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

conversion unit
Hi

I spotted a glitch in the unit conversion script.

Eg in the page for Nikita krouchev, production values (section "agricultural policy"), the conversion ton / short ton produced a non natural value (1.074 E+8) for a number which should have been shown as 107,000,000 - or shown as "107 million" While I understand the scientific notation, 100 million is not a particularly large number, and showing it as 107 million is much more natural...

I corrected it manually by editing the text to remove the conversion and show the results in human readable form.

Cedric —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.50.128.34 (talk) 07:22, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Gordon Brown
You have made Gordon browns page unable to be changed, this is wrong, a lot of the bad things he did need to be posted on this page so people can see how very useless he is.Please sort this asap. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.42.190.52 (talk) 07:51, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Sadly, even though this is the Encyclopedia that anyone can edit, some pages do have to be protected against vandalism. As described here, you have two ways to edit the article. One is to register an account and then make ten edits over four days; you will them be an autoconfirmed editor and will be able to edit the Gordon Brown article. The other is to propose your change at the article talk page and draw attention to it by adding.
 * For both methods you will need to include references to reliable sources such as books, newspapers and magazines to back up the information you are adding. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:10, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Since most of your edits have been vandalism, however, creating an account might be a waste of effort. For unless you become a serious editor, you would be blocked from editing before you would became autoconfirmed. —teb728 t c 13:27, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Any posting on Wikipedia which is put there because PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW is almost certain to be removed very swiftly: see WP:SOAPBOX. Only if you can find reliable sources which support what you are saying is the information likely to remain there - and if it is a contentious issue, it must be balanced by other views - see WP:NPOV. --ColinFine (talk) 19:29, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Any posting on Wikipedia which is put there because PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW is almost certain to be removed very swiftly: see WP:SOAPBOX. Only if you can find reliable sources which support what you are saying is the information likely to remain there - and if it is a contentious issue, it must be balanced by other views - see WP:NPOV. --ColinFine (talk) 19:29, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Tony Blair
you have locked the page of Tony blair, this is WRONG, see to it that it can be edited, he was a very bad PM, people need to know more. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.42.190.52 (talk) 08:07, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * This article is also semi-protected; my previous answer applies here. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:12, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * This article is also semi-protected; my previous answer applies here. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:12, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Updating an image
I'm trying to update a .jpg version of an image with an SVG version, but I can't overwrite the .jpg because the new file has an SVG extension. Is there a way to do this, or do I need to upload the SVG as a new file and delete the .jpg version. The file is and is a nonfree logo. If you're able to answer this, could you drop a note on my talk page? Thanks for your time. JKBrooks85 (talk) 10:01, 16 February 2011 (UTC)


 * You have to upload the SVG separately and replace the JPG in articles, then tag the JP for deletion. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 14:50, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Favorites button
For logged in users who are browsing and reading articles, there should be an option to mark article as favorite. This will help save articles for future reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greatidea8 (talk • contribs) 11:10, 16 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Have you noticed the little star at the top right corner of your screen (beside "view history"). Clicking the star adds an article/talkpage to your "watchlist". Add your favourite articles to your watchlist.--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 11:14, 16 February 2011 (UTC)


 * That’s one way to mark a page, and it works pretty well for pages that are frequently modified. (What it actually does is watch for modifications to pages you are interested in.) A couple of other way are to bookmark the pages in your browser and to create links to the pages on your user page. —teb728 t c 12:28, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Being harassed - what should I do?
Moved here from Wikipedia talk:Help desk -- John of Reading (talk) 11:21, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

To be brief, I added a link, another user removed it claiming it was spam, and when I left them a message explaining to them why it was not, a third member removed the message claiming it was vandalism.

is there any proceedure for dealing with or reporting harassment on wikipedia?

99.139.212.69 (talk) 07:57, 16 February 2011 (UTC)


 * That's pretty interesting, claiming that you're being harassed. Need I point out your own original harassment of us?  Diff 1 and 2. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OnePt618 (talk • contribs) 08:04, 16 February 2011

the above unsigned comment posted by OnePt618, who has joined member Tbhotch in continuing to harass me, even when I tried to explain rationally to them why their beliefs that my link is spam are false.

99.139.212.69 (talk) 08:26, 16 February 2011 (UTC)


 * If you think that you are being harassed I suggest you first read dispute resolution policy and if it does not result in anything ask for a mediation. My advice for you, 99.139.212.69, is to first set up an account. --Rattakorn c (talk) 11:45, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Hello, everybody! I hope you are all doing well this fine day! I also suggest to the anonymous user that he or she dream up a good user name (funny if possible) and stay with us for a long time! I have left instructions on his or her user page on how to do so. Also a deep breath and a walk around the block does wonders. Sincerely, a friend to all, GeorgeLouis (talk) 17:08, 16 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Harassment? since when anwer questions is harassment? If s/he do not want to be "harassed", then do not make questions, oh, and remember who is the vandal 1 2. Tb hotch * ۩  ۞ 21:08, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

How do I replace the edit toolbar to the original version?
I don't like this edit toolbar and I would like to replace it with the original, good one. Thank you.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 11:58, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Be patient; we're in the middle of a software upgrade. See the last few threads at Village pump (technical). -- John of Reading (talk) 12:36, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * You can also uncheck "Beta features" from the "edit" tab in "my preferences" C T J F 8 3  12:42, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I know that already, as I am not a noob. I was shocked by the time I saw this layout and changed immediately to the prior version. Now I wait until it will change. -- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 12:47, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * ....so you came to help desk to provide an opinion on the toolbar? ;) C T J F 8 3  12:53, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes I came here to receive an answer about my question :|-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 12:57, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * LOL, I gave you one, and you said, "I know that already, as I am not a noob"...but this is getting off topic, so ya.... C T J F 8 3  13:03, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Calm down; we are talking about the edit toolbar and not about the beta layout. You are going off-topic I think.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 13:09, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, I thought the beta tool bar stuff was the issue with the toolbar, nm, ignore me. C T J F 8 3  13:14, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Jesus Lee Roth I thought we'd been coopted by Facebook. They're doing something weird at the Graphics Labs at the same time. Why spend so much time to fix that which ain't broke?--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 14:25, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, the advice above to uncheck "Beta features" enabled me to fix it. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:52, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

course
--68.194.124.188 (talk) 13:22, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

I need to take a refresher course on sure trak / I live on L. I. N.Y.

James Farrell — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.194.124.188 (talk • contribs)
 * Symbol_move_vote.svg Have you tried the section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia.  For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: [ click here] . I hope this helps.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:24, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

disruptive editing
I've been accused by another user of disruptive editing. The page in question is fro CHBN-FM. User 117 Avenue has taken issue with my removal of the "competitors" paragraph within the article. In the edit summary I stated that competition is not germaine to what CHBN is. 117 Avenue's argument is that competition affects a radio station. Encyclopaedia's only explain the nature of something, not everything that can affect what that something is. Weather, acts of God and the ionosphere can affect a radio station too. 117 avenue has posted none of that in this article so the argument is inconsistent. Inside his profile you can see 117 avenue is a fan of a competing radio station but not listed as a fan of CHBN so the opinion in this case is in fact, biased. Please advise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hot4vegas (talk • contribs) 14:19, 16 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Talk:CHBN-FM is the place to discuss your content dispute, rather than edit-warring without discussion. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:46, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

incorrect weg page address
The web page address for Champlain College Lennoxville is incorrect, and I am unable to correct it (it appears in a box on the right hand side of the page). It reads www.lennox.champlaincollege.qc.ca but it was changed several years ago to www.crc-lennox.qc.ca. The old address still links to the new one, but this is for a definite time only. We would appreciate it someone could fix the error. Thx. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.236.4.254 (talk) 15:03, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅ I changed the web address.   GB  fan  15:12, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Following Citing Procedures, but not creating footnote
I'm testing the waters with Wikipedia. My first attempt was denied because of copyright. Therefore I'm writing my own description.

Here's my problem.... I'm using the format for citing as described and it looks like this...

_________

The Three Secrets of John XXIII

The secret of everything is to let yourself be carried by the Lord and to carry the Lord Cahill, Thomas, (c) 2002,Pope John XXIII, Penguin Company, 375 Hudson Street, New York, NY                                                                  --John XXIII at his coronation

____

However, when I preview the page, it does not create the footnote, but comes out like the following:

The Three Secrets of John XXIII

The secret of everything is to let yourself be carried by the Lord and to carry the Lord Cahill, Thomas, (c) 2002,Pope John XXIII, Penguin Company, 375 Hudson Street, New York, NY

The ==References== section looks like this:

Article Wizard - Preview Feature Stopped Working
I initiated a new article in Article Wizard on 12 February 2011 and entered the "new article content" title. I have been developing / editing and previewing the new article in Article Wizard for the last 5 days without any problems. Today (16 February 2011), I made some edits and upon going to preview, the "article content" title was missing and there was no information in the preview section. How can I restore the "article content" title and the preview feature? Thank-you. Mdonovcanmoore (talk) 15:40, 16 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Fixed here – you had opened a "hidden comment" but not closed it, so the rest of the text was sucked into the hidden comment. BencherliteTalk 15:50, 16 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Specifically, you removed the comment close in . See WP:COMMENT. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:35, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

list of user pages
hi. how do i generate a special page which lists all the user pages which i've created, which are subpages of my user page? I know there's a way to do this. also, how do I find this information in the help documentation? Couldn't find it. thanks. --Steve, Sm8900 (talk) 16:57, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's Special:PrefixIndex. Just type the parent page name followed by a slash. For example, for all subpages of User:Example, type User:Example/ in the input box.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 17:02, 16 February 2011 (UTC)


 * You can click the Subpages link at the bottom of Special:Contributions/Sm8900. There is documentation at WP:USERSUBPAGE and Subpages. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:31, 16 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Alternatively, you could click on "My contributions" at the top right of the page, scroll down to the bottom of that page and click on "Subpages". Dismas |(talk) 18:32, 16 February 2011 (UTC)


 * This is mentioned in the help documentation here, but I agree that it is not easy to find. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:56, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

No more graphic — pfft!
A graphic has disappeared from Marie Mattingly Meloney and has been replaced by a message stating "Error creating thumbnail: Cannot get metadata from TIFF". What to do? Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 18:09, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Odd. Now the graphic has returned. I wonder what caused all this? ~!GeorgeLouis (talk)


 * It also failed for me before. I see you uploaded File:Marie Mattingley Meloney 1943 obituary photo.tiff. tiff is not among the allowed types at Creation and usage of media files but see also commons:COM:TIFF. Can you upload in another format? PrimeHunter (talk) 18:21, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Uhh. . . if you go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Upload, you will see that .tiff is listed as an acceptable format. If there has been a change, this page should also be changed. I hope that somebody reading this can take care of reconciling these conflicting instructions, because I wouldn't know where to begin. Sincerely, your friend, GeorgeLouis (talk) 19:31, 16 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Did you read my link to commons:COM:TIFF? It seems clear that even if tiff uploads are technically allowed, they should be avoided for files intended for article display such as yours. Can you upload in another format? If not then maybe somebody else will convert it for you. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:22, 16 February 2011 (UTC)


 * See also commons:Commons:Project scope/Allowable file types which explicitly says: "Images: SVG, PNG, GIF, JPEG, TIFF (not for display purposes, see COM:FT#TIFF), XCF (GIMP)".
 * The list at Special:Upload simply shows which file types it is possible to upload and doesn't talk about intended use (PDF files cannot be displayed in articles but are possible to upload). If the list is up to date and you try another type then you should get an error message and be unable to upload. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:48, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

New messages
What happened to the new messages banner? It's blue now. When was this changed and where is the discussion? --  T H F S W  (T · C · E) 19:15, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * See the (currently) last thread at Village pump (technical). Dismas |(talk) 19:20, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Still Having Problems Editing and Ref Tags; cannot revert
After a short hiatus where my edits were going through nicely, there appears to be a bug again in my article (User:Catchthedream/Issamar Ginzberg) -- and I can't revert this time. Help! Also, since I seem to be on here quite a lot lately, some feedback on the article is always nice if you have time :). Thanks. Catchthedream (talk) 19:29, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Done ;) mabdul 19:46, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Bar above edit box has changed again
I assume this is part of the MediaWiki software update, and I see where I can get a few more things by hitting the arrow next to "Advanced", but where are the buttons for concealed comment and even more importantly for when I am on a laptop and don't have a tilde on the keyboard, for inserting a signature? I played with my settings under preferences and couldn't see how to get the old bar back. I am in MonoBook precisely because I don't like all the stuff Vector hides in places I can't find, or actively takes away; is there a fix in this case? Yngvadottir (talk) 20:13, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * isn't under the edit box a "composer" for special characters? mabdul 20:31, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * In MonoBook, yes. One of the things I prefer about it. I now see a thread above on this topic but it appears the advice is "Sit tight, they're still changing things"? After the whole experience with Vector, that does not inspire confidence. If there's any way I can personally revert this change, please let me know. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:47, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I tried the advice in that section above, to uncheck "Beta features" from the "edit" tab in "my preferences", and that did it. Thanks! Yngvadottir (talk) 20:52, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm using the modern skin ^^ So, don't ask me what the others look like. I only know that I hate the vector skin ;) mabdul 00:34, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Seconded, though I hate the way it was foisted on us even more, with utterly meaningless and deceptive testing being cited as warranting its implementation.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:51, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Log me in globally
Perhaps this is not new, but I just noticed it on my login page. What is "Log me in globally"? Backspace (talk) 20:36, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I would suspect that it's part of the process of logging you into other languages' Wikipedias. Dismas |(talk) 20:46, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * It means that you can log into Wikipedia, Wiktionary, Wikiquote, Wikibooks, Wikisource, Wikimedia Commons, etc... Monterey Bay (talk) 03:23, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Seek Catagory list, instructs for edit photo-summary, and detailed copyright end-point info.
Spent many many minutes searching about catagories... I tried to attach a catagory to a photo I uploaded, but could nowhere find a simple list of catagories. Lots and lots and lots and lots of pages about issues around catagories -- but no actual catagories, it seems. Suggestion and request: A simple linear vector of high-level catagories that are currently defined. Then, maybe some click-down feature for sub-catagories, or whatever. But something, eh? I understand that there are likely lots of issues with catagories - but just do something simple, so if folks do useful effort on something, they can stick it somewhere that has some kind of catagorization. Otherwise, the whole effort is a useless waste of time, if people can't easily attach catagories to their upload efforts. How do I just edit a spelling mistake in an uploaded file summary description? I made the edit, but the old version with the spelling mistake is not overwritten. Is this policy? As uploader/author, I assumed I could fix any spelling errors, but attempts to do this have failed. Tech stuff and copyright issues. Look, I don't want to do anything bad, but I fear a lot of useful technical information that was common knowledge on many issues in the 1950's and 1960's is just being lost. I often seek the documents and technical schematics from certain obsolete products and designs, circa 1950's to 1970's.  This info lives on low paper-quality engineering documents, that are often copyrighted by bankrupt and/or non- existant companies, or in rotting paper catalogues  I would freely drop a bunch of my digital images, as public domain material, onto relavent Wikipedia articles, if allowed. I seek detailed guidelines on what I could upload. Been thru your notes on "What Wikipedia Is Not", and your image upload forms. An encyclopedic repository of technical schematics is needed. Patents expire after 17 years, but the US Patent Office has made its technical site *VERY* difficult to search and view - by plan, to protect US intellectual property, maybe? I have some technical material that will die when I do, if not placed successfully in the public domain. If a detailed technical article exists somewhere that indicates the limits of copyright restrictions. There is a "Greshams Law" happening to high-value data now. I seek to preserve, in the public domain, some valuable material, and seek specific, actionable guidelines. Thx for any info... - Rus. Rusfuture (talk) 20:56, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
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 * Categories: Take a look at Portal:Contents/Categories.  This allows you to work down from high levels to sub-sub-sub categories.  But you should also consider enabling the HotCat tool, which will help you by suggesting suitable categories.
 * Typo issue: Are you trying to alter an old edit summary because it contained a spelling mistake? That's not possible, unfortunately.  All old edits, and their summaries, are preserved in the record because every Wikipedia edit has to be attributable.  You can save an amended version of actual content, though.
 * Copyright: If you don't own the copyright in the documents you want to preserve, and if they are not old enough to be out of copyright in your jurisdiction, then you can't authorise their release into the public domain. Your point about preservation is understandable, but you need to speak to a copyright expert to establish what can and can't be done.  The good people at WP:MCQ would probably be able to point you in the right direction.   Ka renjc 22:37, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia Use
I am currently writing a novel and would like to include your sites with particular subjects/objects/people that you have photo on your web site. I have known these people or flown or worked with the aircraft. I am a retired USAF member. Examples would be General William V. McBride the Vice Chief of Staff, President Dwight Esinhower, Several Movie Stars, B-50, B-52, C130, MinuteMan Missiles and so forth. All I plan to do is add in to the book the web address when I get to the subject of the person/aircraft etc. It would certainly not cause you any harm and bring more people to your sites. People that buy my book when published on line would be able to just click the address on line and with a hard copy just type in the sites address on any computer tied to the internet, If they want to. What is your policy on this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.19.195.64 (talk) 21:02, 16 February 2011 (UTC)


 * You may publish links to Wikipedia articles freely. If you quote content of articles or use photos or other images and media from Wikipedia in your publications please follow the guidelines on citing Wikipedia. Roger (talk) 21:46, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

What is the basis for quantifying number of edits?
I see everywhere about number of edits done or some number of edits to be done in order to autocofirmed etc.. Please could you clarify me how does this edits NUMBER is arrived or calculated? Are these edits count based on no. of edited lines, words etc. or one session of edit be considered as one edit made by a particular user?

Thank you! Kmkiran (talk) 21:32, 16 February 2011 (UTC)KM
 * See WP:AUTOCONFIRM. You need 10 edits and an account 4 days old. I believe all you have to do is hit edit, change something, even adding a period, and then save, counts as 1 edit. C T J F 8 3  21:34, 16 February 2011 (UTC)


 * You can see all your individual edits by going to the top right-hand corner of your screen and clicking on "my contributions". Each entry there counts as one edit.  You can use the edit count tool at any time by going to the bottom of the "my contributions" page and clicking on the "edit count" link.   Ka renjc 22:16, 16 February 2011 (UTC)


 * The number of edits you have made is also displayed on the "My preferences" tab (upper right hand of screen.) RJFJR (talk) 03:33, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Problems with edit toolbar and monobook
By this afternoon i'm seeing some strange changes on layout. Since the change in may 2010, i've used monobook on my preferences (it is simplest to me to work), but the edit toolbar is changed. It shows a strange mixage of monobook and vector and for me is difficult to edit and, also, to patrol quickly. Sometimes it appears a big sky blue space below the toolbar and, some hours ago, the navbox templates showed a double "show/hide" keys. Also the picture galleries under are strangely changed. I'm having the same problems on Commons, and over there the below toolbar is disappeared. I suppose it is not a vector problem, because sometimes i use vector when i edit on other Wikipedias (fr, de, es...): Today i've seen this strange changes also over there (fr, de, es...). I suppose it is a general technical problem (or else), because sometimes is appears the "offline" message. Is it the possibility to restore the previous situation? By now i'm having some difficulties and it seems to me that WP (from my pc) is running slowly than yesterday. Thanks a lot and regards. --Dэя-Бøяg 21:38, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * From what I understand they are updating it. See several of the later posts on WP:VPT and a few above here. C T J F 8 3  21:41, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * You can also uncheck "Beta features" from the "edit" tab in "my preferences" C T J F 8 3  21:43, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. Unchecking the Beta from my preferences the situation has been restored, also on Commons. --Dэя-Бøяg 22:28, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Note... The pictures under still looks like changed... or reduced. Anyway, thanx again. --Dэя-Бøяg 22:42, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Interface issues

 * Cross-posting to Village pump (technical). Goodvac (talk) 03:45, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

I logged in today and the left bar is unusually shifted down (see screenshot). I'm using the monobook skin; is this recent MediaWiki updates (I noticed the new "Log me in globally" button on the login page and the "Deleted only" option in Special:Contributions or anything in my monobook.js (possibly the script labeled "Personal toolbox - from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Brian0918/monobook.js", which appears below the standard links on the left hand side) causing this? Goodvac (talk) 23:22, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I might have a similar problem, that looks a little different. I'm using the old, pre-May 2010 skin. All Hallow&#39;s Wraith (talk) 03:58, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
 * You might want to raise that at Village pump (technical), since all the techies are there, and I'm sure they can find a way to fix it. Goodvac (talk) 04:17, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Hiding the left side of the Wikipedia page (Full page view)
I want a keyboard shortcut to show/hide the vertical strip along the left side of the Wikipedia page. Some people might call this "Full page view". It is the area that contains the Wikipedia logo, Main Page, Contents, and all the other links. (What is this area of the screen called, anyway? the quickbar?)

I actually hit something one day that did it, but (like The Lost Chord) I could never find it again. I use the Google Chrome browser on Windows XP. You can answer here or on my user page. Thanks so much.--Foobarnix (talk) 23:27, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * maybe you mean the printable version (use the access key (s) and hit p) or alternatively you mean the full screen mode (hitting F11) mabdul 00:30, 17 February 2011 (UTC)