Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2011 January 24

= January 24 =

Weird page about a unknown investment house that offers 170% growth?
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Obelisk_International&action=history Sounds too much to be true? Worth to check / delete?

Cheers —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.149.160.220 (talk) 11:51, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The article has been speedily deleted. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:12, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

i'd like to see the page here referenced:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Viruses_in_the_Resident_Evil_series_(2nd_nomination)

'''how must i do? grazie, bastardi :)''' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.48.107.7 (talk) 01:16, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately the article referred to by that AfD discussion was deleted by unanimous consensus among the !voters (in mid-2010, in fact). If you would like to work on it, you can ask the closing administrator (in this case, User:Cirt) to userfy it for you, but you should create an account first. Creating an account carries with it many benefits, one of which is that you will have a userspace in which to work on articles.  Intelligent  sium  02:38, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Album subtitle left out
I created an article for the Andy Williams album Love Theme from "The Godfather", and when I went in to add the album cover, I realized that I had forgotten the album's subtitle "Speak Softly Love" when I entered the name of the article. I was wondering if the name of the article could be changed to read Love Theme from "The Godfather" (Speak Softly Love) (Andy Williams album). Thanks! Danaphile (talk) 02:03, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Just providing a link to the article for those who don't want to have to search through your contributions: Love Theme from "The Godfather" (Andy Williams album).
 * By the way, is there already another album called "Love Theme from The Godfather"? If not, we probably don't need the "(Andy Williams album)" disambiguator.  Dismas |(talk) 02:55, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. There's already a song page entitled "Love Theme from the Godfather", and other artists have used this album title. Danaphile (talk) 07:46, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Problems with a script in my monobook.js
I added User:Porchcrop/rollback.js (documentation) to my monobook.js. The edit summary works properly, but the line  doesn't seem to be working. I want to disable rollback links when viewing my watchlist, but I still see them. Have I not formatted this correctly? I've already tried bypassing my cache. Goodvac (talk) 04:42, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Try adding a semicolon at the end of the line. If that works, leave a message at User talk:Porchcrop so that the documentation can be fixed. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:57, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * A semicolon does not work. Any other things I can try? Goodvac (talk) 17:11, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Javascript adds a semicolon to the end of a line anyway, whenever it thinks one might have been omitted. Douglas Crockford lists this in his book Javascript: The Good Parts as one of the "Awful parts". --ColinFine (talk) 23:27, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * It was worth a try. I'm from a C/C++ background -- John of Reading (talk) 08:45, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm stuck, but I've left a message at User talk:Porchcrop. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:18, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I've tested the script along with many other rollback summary scripts, and none of them seem to be working with the rollbackLinksDisable or the rollbackSummaryDefault. Probably there is a MediaWiki update. Lord Porchcrop POWER 22:49, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for replying here. So is there a way you can fix this? Goodvac (talk) 02:56, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
 * It's a MediaWiki update, so I can't fix it. Lord Porchcrop POWER 06:52, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

2012 Gubernatorial Elections Map is missing Utah
How do I update a map image to reflect a missing state?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_gubernatorial_elections,_2012

The does not display Utah dispite it being listed.

- Craig Van Korlaar — Preceding unsigned comment added by Craigvk (talk • contribs) 04:56, 24 January 2011 (UTC)


 * You could ask the creator of the map, User:Nevermore27, to update the map. Their talk page is here.  Dismas |(talk) 06:00, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Help! Motorways in Poland has gone pear-shaped!
Help! Motorways in Poland has gone pear-shaped!Nankai (talk) 06:32, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I added -, which pushed the table down so it didn't overlap with the images. Goodvac (talk) 06:36, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * And, to be frank, all that white space looked hideous, so I have reformatted it with some Fix bunching templates. – ukexpat (talk) 18:25, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

national civil rights movement uk
why is there no mention, in wikipedia, of the national civil rights movement started by michael mansfield and others in the uk in the 90s? 08:58, 24 January 2011 (UTC)82.21.134.146 (talk)
 * There is some mention of it at Michael Mansfield. What, specifically, do you feel is missing from the article Michael Mansfield? (just for starters) ..... Mesoderm (talk) 09:10, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Species lists
Hello! I wonder if it's possible to download species lists from Wikipedia. For instance, if I wish to compile a list for a given country (e.g. Liberia). There are Wikipedia pages which provide this information(of e.g. mammals http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mammals_of_Liberia). Ideally I would like to download this information in a csv file format so that I can import the list directly into a database or excel, rather that copying and pasting the information from the webpage. I would be grateful for any advise on whether this is a possibility. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.49.242.126 (talk) 10:48, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * This isn't possible; Wikipedia only has the information in its own internal format, which you can see by clicking the "Edit" links in List of mammals of Liberia. But you might get somewhere if you copy and paste that "wiki markup" into a plain text file and then ask Excel to treat the asterisk character as a field separator. This might take some ingenuity or programming skill. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:04, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Image is annotated in Spanish
My language is set to English, but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PlantaSchemaFiction.png is annotated in Spanish. A translation to other languages would be helpful.

NORTHERN CALIFORNIA PARTNERS I, LLC —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.169.165.18 (talk) 14:41, 24 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, that's not a good choice of picture for this article. I have added a note to the article talk page. (I have removed your contact details to protect your privacy) -- John of Reading (talk) 14:48, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * NB. The image is hosted on commons. A german language version also exists at File:RO-Plant-Layout.png if that helps anyone translate. Nanonic (talk) 14:51, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I thin a saner solution is to have the parts just labeled "A", "B", etc in the image. Then every language can use the same image-file and add their own commentary in the caption or article-body. MOS:IMAGES advises in general to avoid using images for text-content--not quite the same in specific, but similar rationale. Some specific wikiprojects specifically do advise against even simple text annotations in graphics files. DMacks (talk) 09:14, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I thin a saner solution is to have the parts just labeled "A", "B", etc in the image. Then every language can use the same image-file and add their own commentary in the caption or article-body. MOS:IMAGES advises in general to avoid using images for text-content--not quite the same in specific, but similar rationale. Some specific wikiprojects specifically do advise against even simple text annotations in graphics files. DMacks (talk) 09:14, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Old logo on the sp.a-wiki
Hi there,

on this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sp.a

the old sp.a-logo is still shown. you can verify that there is a new logo on the homepage of sp.a: www.s-p-a.be

the logo can be found in various formats here: http://www.s-p-a.be/logo/

We prefer the red logo on a white background as can be found here: (highres jpeg) http://www.s-p-a.be/media/uploads/logos/logos_downloads/spa_standaard_logo_groot.jpg or (highres eps) http://www.s-p-a.be/media/uploads/logos/spa_standaard_logo.eps.zip

I do not have an autoconfirmed account, so i cannot upload the new logo myself.

Can someone do the necesarry?

Thanks a lot!

Stijn Vercamer communication sp.a Stijnvercamer (talk) 15:33, 24 January 2011 (UTC)


 * ✅ I converted the EPS version to SVG and uploaded it over the previous version. You may need to purge to see the update in the article. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 16:06, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

I was trying to improve Constantinople entry but I've read and read and still can't figure it out
I created an account. I read the tutorial. Constantinople doesn't have an edit tab at the top. All I wanted to do was add another line to popularity as follows

The Sheen on the Silk by Anne Perry is a historical novel set in Byzantium (including a major role for Constantinople) set around 1272AD. Published in 2010, ISBN: 978-0-345-50065-6 (0-345-50065-2)

But it seems to be harder than I thought. Please advise. SR — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srwap (talk • contribs) 18:00, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * There have been hundreds of novels set in Constantinople; such trivialities have no place here. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  18:15, 24 January 2011 (UTC)


 * To answer the more general question, Constantinople is semi-protected, which means that it cannot be edited by anonymous editors or users with new accounts. You will be able to edit semi-protected pages when your account is autoconfirmed, which happens automatically when your account is at least four full days old and has at least ten edits.  --Mysdaao talk 18:20, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Question about an unpatrolled article.
I'm trying to do some New Pages Patrolling (I'm horrible at writing articles, so I thought maybe I could help clean up the place), since I'm pretty new at this, I was wondering what I should to with this article. "Nanningo"

I'm mostly positive that since it has no references, that it should be deleted, or maybe moved to the artist's page. Bluefist (talk) 19:30, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I've redirected the page. This can be done for albums that have no independent notability but may still be a plausible search term. TN X Man  19:36, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

how do I change the URL to not include my user name?
how do I change the wiki URL to not include my user name? Also, I have uploaded the CMAO logo 2 times but have no idea of how to get it to show up on the article that I am creating for the Country Music Association of Ontario Thanks Peter — Preceding unsigned comment added by Musicmentor (talk • contribs) 22:01, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The page User:Musicmentor/The Country Music Association of Ontario (CMAO) is a userspace draft article. For advice and instructions on what to do next, see So you made a userspace draft?. -- John of Reading (talk) 22:04, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * BUT the page has a problem - it has nothing to indicate that the organisation is notable. Unless you can show that other people have written about the organisation in reliable sources such as a newspapers, books and journals, the text will not be suitable for Wikipedia. See the FAQ for organisations. -- John of Reading (talk) 22:04, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

I moved it to Country Music Association of Ontario (the abbreviation should not have been incorporated into the title). -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  22:07, 24 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I was going to suggest it's a long way from being mainspace ready myself. Rehevkor ✉ 22:08, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Penalty goals
Let's say that a football player scores a penalty goal in a penalty shoot-out. Would that penalty goal count as a goal to the player? Jaime070996 23:47, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Dismas |(talk) 00:06, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
 * If you are planning to maintain the goal statistics in Wikipedia articles, I suggest you ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football (or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject American football?) to see what the convention is. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:51, 25 January 2011 (UTC)