Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2011 January 9

= January 9 =

Graphic sizes change quite a bit if viewing in Windows (it is a smaller size) vs. a Mac (where it is much larger)
Hi, I just discovered this problem a few days ago. It is on the Jerome Myers page which I put together as best I could a few months ago. Actually it turned out to be much more than I had hoped for. My only problem at the moment - I'm still close to a novice - is trying to have the graphic for three montage pictures on the page appears as large on Windows computers as it does on the Mac. Both systems I am assuming are using the same code for display, but the resulting graphics sizes are quite different. Since they are collages of a group of pictures they really need the extra size that the Mac displays. Is there anything I can do to fix the problem?



I suspect I'm not the first person to run into the issue. By the way, I did try this with two different computers running Mac using two versions of its system, one being system 9.2 the other being system 10.4. For my Windows viewing I tried it both using XP as well on the newer System 7. The problem showed up on all the tests. Thank you for any help you might be able to give me.

BEDownes (talk) 00:20, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

BEDownes
 * See WP:Galleries for general guidelines. If you want to display a lot of images, a better option may be to create a gallery page on Wikimedia Commons to complement the Wikipedia article (you can link from the article to the gallery page with Commons). See Commons:Commons:Galleries. --Teratornis (talk) 03:46, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is viewed by people on many different browsers, on different operating systems, on differently-sized monitors, and they may then resize their windows with abandon. Cascading Style Sheets, which is what Wikipedia uses, lets you do quite a lot to control the layout, but in detail it is simply not possible to make a web page appear the same for every reader. --ColinFine (talk) 21:08, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

how to replace an erroneous range map?
The breeding range map for Red-bellied Woodpecker is wrong. How does one get it replaced? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.161.67.21 (talk) 00:57, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Create a new one, with sources, and upload it over the current one. The image currently has a horrible source anyway. C T J F 8 3  chat 00:58, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

I have a couple of pictures to offer...
I have a number of pictures to offer of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rancocas_Stable. I'm not really interested in editing 10 articles to become an autoconfirmed user, or to learn how to insert images and so on. But I am willing to provide the images if someone would like to put them up... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wjbruzek (talk • contribs) 01:40, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * You could provide them to Wikimedia Commons, if the licences are OK.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil HI AGAIN 02:05, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Copyright licence
I added a computer graphics image in August and said that it was all my own work. Despite that, it has been tagged for CSD. Could someone add the correct licence for me? It's. Like I said: it's all my own work, created on my computer. I want to release it into the public domain, no rights reserved. Thanks. — Fly by Night  ( talk )  02:02, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I removed the CSD and added PD-self for you. Please consider moving it to Wikimedia Commons.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil HI AGAIN 02:08, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * For more about moving it Commons, see WP:MITC, WP:SUL, and Special:MergeAccount. --Teratornis (talk) 03:41, 9 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I moved it to Commons. Had to do it manually - is the tool not working properly? – ukexpat (talk) 04:21, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * two out of three times I used the tool on zh.wikibooks it does not work. :)  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 09:03, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I've never had a problem moving something with that tool, though I'll note it can take a long time for it to finish, sometimes up to five minutes. I've also deleted the local copy, and cleaned up the upload at Commons. — Huntster (t @ c) 12:32, 10 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot for that guys. I'll remember to use PD-self in future. — Fly by Night  ( talk )  12:05, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Deletion discussions
I've got a bio article under discussion for deletion, and I notice it's listed in a limited subject area and list of deletion discussions. How do I expand this to include other subject areas, such as bio and music, that would bring in a wider variety of opinions? Pkeets (talk) 03:19, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * WikiProject_Deletion_sorting is the starting point to expand the discussion to associated wikiprojects. (for: "Note: This debate has been included in") Jarkeld (talk) 03:23, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the quick reply. I'm the author. If I think the template lists the AfD subject area incorrectly, can I change it or add to it? Pkeets (talk) 03:40, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Editing titles of redirect Fan pages on FB from Wikipedia
Is there a way to contact the creator of a FB page that redirects from an actual person to "LIKE" from the factual entries on Wikipedia?

I ran across a "LIKE" author Michael Crichton page on FB with a typo transposition in his first name: Micheal -- on FB

I have found no way to send a request to the creator or edit the error -- can you help?

--Julia Parker — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juliadbp (talk • contribs) 04:14, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Do you have some page links? I'm a little confused on your question? C T J F 8 3  chat 04:21, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * They probably mean this. There's no way to fix that, at least not from our side. Diego Grez (talk) 04:23, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok, ya, that is a Facebook creator issue. Thanks Diego. C T J F 8 3  chat 04:25, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Which article does this article refer to?
Apart from misspelling 'millennia', there is one very special about This The Standard column: it says that Vittachi looked up Wikipedia. Which article do you think he is referring to and would that qualify for online source?  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 09:02, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Possibly badly garbled misreadings from restaurant “from restorative soup served in the first establishments” (but as it says in Wiktionary, English borrowed the word and its meaning from French) and from soup “from Late Latin suppa 'sopped bread', from Proto-Germanic *saupan, *saupaz” (but again as it says in Wiktionary, English borrowed the word from French soupe, which means soup). —teb728 t c 10:06, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * But that's wikt, not WP... Since a Frenchman told him that, he may have seen something related on WP. The WP article says the first restaurant was opened in the same year  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 14:26, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Etymology is dictionary content rather than encyclopedic. And since his "facts" are so garbled, I suspect he doesn't know the difference between Wiktionary and Wikipedia. —teb728 t c 09:57, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Sigh. That could be possible I guess.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:23, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Citations in editing box
I have the "enhanced editing toolbar" turned on, and it used to have a button for "Citations", which produced a pull-down menu that allowed me to use a pop-up box to easily add references. The pop-up had fields for "author", "title", etc., which, after filled in, would automatically generate the proper template and insert it into the article. But I just noticed today that the button is no longer there. Does anyone know what might have changed? Is there some preference that I can set to get the button back?Qwyrxian (talk) 09:23, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes; go to your preferences. There should be a RefTools under Gadgets. Alternatively, you can put this script in your skin.js. Please see this proposal.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 09:37, 9 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Special:Preferences → Gadgets → then either
 * refTools, adds a "cite" button to the editing toolbar for quick and easy addition of commonly used citation templates.
 * or
 * ProveIt, a powerful GUI tool for viewing, editing, adding, and inserting references


 * ProveIt is new, refTools has been around a while. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 09:41, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * refTools is turned on, and it's still not appearing.  I tried turning it off (unchecking), saving, then re-checking, and saving, and it's still not appearing.  Qwyrxian (talk) 09:44, 9 January 2011 (UTC)


 * When I go to edit mode on this page here, I see (in order top to bottom) the page header, the yellow warning and blue and welcome boxes, the box stating the page length in kilobytes, and then the refTools bar. "Cite" is a clickable option on that bar, at the extreme right.  If you're using Vector, when you do the same, what do you see?  Are you getting the refTools bar minus the cite option?  Are you seeing the bar at all?   Ka renjc 10:32, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Purge?  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 10:49, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * @Karenjc: I have the refTolls bar; reading left to right, I have 6 clickable icons (Bold, Italics, Link, Embedded File, Reference, Signature & timestamp), followed by 3 clickable options that read Advanced, Special Characters, and Help. The three clickable options properly pulls up the second line, just as Cite used to.  The Cite button no longer appears.
 * @Kayau: I tried several of the purge options, and none brought the Cite option back. Qwyrxian (talk) 12:42, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Where did you purge? Did you try shift+refresh or control+refresh in the editing window?  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 13:27, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I tried the first 3 suggestions on WP:PURGE, and just now tried what you suggest; same result--no Cite button on the refTools editing window. Qwyrxian (talk) 14:54, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Which version of which browser do you use?  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 14:58, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

If you are using Vector, then remove refToolbar from User:Qwyrxian/vector.js and purge. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 15:33, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Having done the above, you could try adding it back manually, by adding
 * to your vector.js page, per RefToolbar_2.0. Ka renjc 16:22, 9 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Folks, this has apparently been fixed. Always a good idea to check WP:VPT for issues like this. – ukexpat (talk) 16:43, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * In fact it has...I totally forgot to look at this again, as I didn't need the cite button all day, but it's back and fine now. Thanks for all the help. Qwyrxian (talk) 13:57, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

About GNU Free Documentation License
Franciscohiginocl.jpg is under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License and the file contains the painting by Edouardo Malta, A Portuguese Painter. If there is a painting that is also of the same painter, does that also fall under the GNU Free Documentation License? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daffy123 (talk • contribs) 11:52, 9 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I highly doubt it. Some art are in museums, and I think taking photographs are illegal in some museums.199.126.224.245 (talk) 12:27, 9 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Depends on a lot of things. If it's a painting OF the painter, then who is it painted by? If it is a painting BY the painter, then yes, there are circumstances in which a photo of a painting would be in the public domain.  Chiefly, if the painting is old enough to be out of copyright. You could take a photograph yourself, or in some instances you could use an image on the web, if that were freely licensed.  We'd need more information really, to be sure. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 17:06, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Oops, Forgot To Put A Section Title
Is there a way so that text in different places can be linked in a fashion such that footnotes are linked. For example:

"I have the following text: 'In Figure 1, the flow rate is increased between the two slabs of iron.'. I want to make a 'link' between 'Figure 1' and the text: 'Figure 1' of the corresponding picture caption."

Is there anyway to do this? Templates are the answer?199.126.224.245 (talk) 12:22, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * template:anchor might help.  Kayau  Voting  IS   evil 14:00, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

forward a page ?
may i forward an epiphony page to an email contact=and how to? Puddlyduck (talk) 13:37, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you mean by an "epiphony page"; a Wikipedia article that you had an epiphany over? If so, the easiest thing to do is to simply open up an email and send the url of the page to the person (navigate to the article and then copy the address from your browser's address bar (highlight it then you can probably hit ) and paste it into the email (probably you can hit ). There are a few other ways you could send an article but I'm not sure this is what you're here about. If it's something else, please expand your question.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:10, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Lost Article
I submitted an article last year and it seemed to be approved. I went to improve it and suddenly I cannot find it anywhere. The article was on "Bellevue Plantation, St. Mary's, Georgia". I have found over Bellevue Plantations but none had anything to do with the article I wrote. I find it disturbing that after putting in the work for the article that I was not at least notified if it was being deleted. Is this common practice to delete articles without notifying the author of said article? Thank you very much for your assistance.

Goparkit — Preceding unsigned comment added by Goparkit (talk • contribs) 14:03, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Did you submit the article through Articles for Creation? --Danger (talk) 14:22, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * If you submitted the article through AFC, there will be a record in the project's archives. If you created the article this way and remember roughly when you submitted it, it can be found fairly easily. --Danger (talk) 14:37, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * As I noted below, the user has zero deleted edits, (and only two edits total) so if there was an AfC, it was not submitted through this account.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:49, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * (e/c) What account did you use to create the article? I ask because your current account has never created an article like this (you have zero deleted edits). You did about a year ago add this short blurb to the article Antebellum era about this plantation. Is that what you mean? If so, as you can see from that article's page history it was merged into History of the United States (1789–1849) and is now a redirect to there. The content you added did not remain through the merge (and rightly so, though that's another topic, but in short it was undue weight in the article as well as being unverified). I have also searched the deletion log using the name you provided and no article by the name you provided has ever been deleted from Wikipedia, though note that the log requires the article title one enters to be exact in all ways, including capitalization.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:32, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * We can all understand the frustration of finding your contributions deleted or overwritten, but do bear in mind that this is a collaborative project and no special privileges are afforded to the person who happens to start an article (in other words, nobody is the "author"). When new articles with just one major contributor get nominated for deletion (under the speedy deletion criteria for example, standard practice is indeed to notify that contributor.  But it's not feasible to notify people whenever their contributions get altered, even if it's a major alteration.  Some pages have hundreds of contributors.  The best way of monitoring articles that interest you is to add them to your watchlist.  Any changes to them, including deletion nominations, will show up there.   Ka renjc 16:46, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

delta and star connections
i want basic details about delta and star connection in electric circuitBold text — Preceding unsigned comment added by Digvijaysv (talk • contribs) 14:13, 9 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Maybe a please would help? In any event, this sounds like a homework question and we don't do your homework for you. If it isn't, please try the Reference Desk. – ukexpat (talk) 14:24, 9 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Star and delta configuration discussions come up a lot in the context of electricity production from windmills, it is possible that you can google with that in mind to find what you are looking for, in any case, this isn't the right page. un☯mi 14:26, 9 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Symbol_move_vote.svg You might find what you are looking for in the article about Y-Δ transform. If you cannot find the answer there, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except about how to use Wikipedia, which is what this help desk is for). I hope this helps.--Danger (talk) 14:28, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Fast help
I am looking for the page that deals with link colours - specifically the rule that we should not use odd colours for wikilinks..I know this is out there have seen it many times but just cant find it -anyone here know were it is?Moxy (talk) 17:22, 9 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Is this what your looking for.--Monterey Bay (talk) 17:32, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * No i found that - what i mean is there is a page talking about Y not to make links in infoboxs/navboxs weird colours (stating that links should be of a standers colour to help facilitate internet users of all levels of experience.)Moxy (talk) 20:18, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Uploading image
I would like to upload this image from Geograph.org.uk to use in the article Whitehawk Camp. The website creators seem positively to wish to have their images uploaded to Wikimedia Commons, with the proper acknowledgement. I've looked through their instructions though and am none the wiser. Also, I don't have an account on Commons. Would someone be able to do it for me? Many thanks if you can. Itsmejudith (talk) 17:30, 9 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I'll take care of it. BTW you can have a Commons account wihout having to specifically create one - see WP:SUL. – ukexpat (talk) 18:24, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much. I'll look at how to set up a Commons account. Itsmejudith (talk) 18:26, 9 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Oops, it's already there at File:Whitehawk Camp, Brighton (with the Grandstand behind) - geograph.org.uk - 52046.jpg - the Geograph upload bot took care of it in January 2010. – ukexpat (talk) 18:27, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Spam?
My RPGplane page has been signed as spam. ok. now what about this??? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angry_Birds — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dungeonsitalia (talk • contribs) 18:56, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * How does the existance of another page mean that the page you created should be exempt from Wikipedia rules? -- Jayron  32  19:40, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * By analogy, see the deletion argument defense fallacy set forth at What about article x?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:53, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * There's a message concerning this on your talk page. This lousy t-shirt (talk) 21:35, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Gray lines on articles
I am noticing a gray-colored line at the top of a lot of articles I have done today. What does that tell me? Chris (talk) 23:27, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't know, but I've noticed it during the past few days as well. To be specific, I use the Monobook skin and the gray bar (sometimes) appears between the tabs and the title not only of articles but of my watchlist, WP-space pages, etc. Shutting down my browser and restarting it seems to make the bar go away everywhere for a while. Hopefully, someone who understands about such things will be along to answer the question. Deor (talk) 00:26, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia donations header
Hi, this pisses me off to no end. My browser sends "Accept-Language: en-us;q=1, en;q=0.5" in its headers, I am using an English OS, I am using an English browser, I am reading the English wikipedia.. All things completely known to you.

And yet what do you pick to choose the language of the header ad? My IP? Seriously? Geolocation is the worst possible form of determining an user's language preference. Why would I want to have an Italian header if ALL the preferences I can change are set to English and the rest of the page is in English?!

Please do something about this, you have no idea how much it bothers me. 93.33.200.246 (talk) 23:34, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * This is the Wikipedia help desk. The people you are addressing here are, in general people who edit Wikipedia, not those who make it work. Having people instruct me to fix something that I have nothing to do with "pisses me off no end" . Try WP:VP/T, or perhaps somewhere on mediawiki. --ColinFine (talk) 00:17, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Problems with photo upload for USS Vitesse (SP-1192)
Today I uploaded a public domain photo of the U.S. Navy patrol boat USS Vitesse (SP-1192) taken in 1918. Unfortunately, I misspelled the ship's name in the image title - I uploaded instead of, so I blanked the description with a db-author request and a note that I would re-upload the image with a corrected title. But now I find that Wikipedia will not accept the photo under any title, and appears to delete it again hen I ignore warnings. How do I upload the photo with its correct title? Mdnavman (talk) 23:52, 9 January 2011 (UTC)mdnavman