Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2011 July 19

= July 19 =

isp question
Does an isp block, block all of your connection to the internet, your connection Wikipedia, or just your connection to...anything else in particular?-- GoldenGlory84 (talk) 01:49, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * A block made on Wikipedia only affects your ability to edit Wikipedia articles. It does not affect your ability to view articles, make contributions to other Wikimedia projects, or surf the web. Ryan Vesey  contribs  01:53, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Account wizard
When an anonymous user tries to create an account, the "account creating wizard" appears. How do you suppress the wizard? 125.235.170.35 (talk) 01:59, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Do you not want to create an account? -- Jayron  32  02:15, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Don Bevan
Is Don Bevan author of "Stalag 17" still alive? Where would I find this answer? We were friends and he became ill and moved away. Would like to know if he is still alive.05:07, 19 July 2011 (UTC)~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.39.49.77 (talk)
 * I'm not finding a lot of sources on Donald Bevan the playwright. None of them, including the Wikipedia article Donald Bevan nor his IMDB page indicate a death date. He was alive as recently as 2007, since he gave an interview with the New York Post about a possible staging of his play by the movie director Spike Lee, see .  Of course, the absence of evidence isn't the evidence of absence, but as of 4 years ago he was alive.  I can't find anything else in Google News archives indicating an obit or anything, so my guess is he hasn't died yet.  -- Jayron  32  05:40, 19 July 2011 (UTC)


 * A social security death index search, while also only providing negative evidence, indicates he is still alive.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:49, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

HI
I want to edit one page but I cannt as there is no correction function what can I do now? there is a mistake and I want to correct it?Diynarg (talk) 07:03, 19 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Which page are you trying to edit? Some pages are protected, often for limited periods, if they are being subjected to vandalism. - David Biddulph (talk) 07:07, 19 July 2011 (UTC)


 * In case this was a more general question (seeing that you have no other edits prior to this), you can read about the basics of editing Wikipedia in this page: Help:Editing.--  Obsidi ♠ n   Soul   07:10, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

hi2
I understood that some pages were protected and I could not edit them ))) I want to edit this page

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgian_people

this part

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgian_people#Geographic_subdivisions

but page seems to be protected what can I do now? there are omitted some informations and I want to add it as it is very important... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diynarg (talk • contribs) 08:12, 19 July 2011 (UTC)


 * You can post a message to the talk page of the article. Go to the article, click on "Discussion" at the top, and add a new section there.  When you post your comments, put in the editprotected template.  An admin will come along and decide if your change is needed.  If they don't make the change, they'll leave a reason why.  Dismas |(talk) 08:15, 19 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi Diynarg, the easiest way to submit your request is to visit the page Georgian people, click "view source" near the top of the page, and click the link in the lower-right titled "Submit an edit request". Be sure to read the instructions that will appear.  Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 08:31, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Didn't know about that function. Thanks!  -- Dismas |(talk) 08:59, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * No worries! Of course you or I need to log out to see that.  Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 05:24, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

thanks ))) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diynarg (talk • contribs) 09:01, 19 July 2011

English translation for Mexican song - Cielito Lindo
Can I get an English translation for the above song ? Can't seem to find website able to do so. Love the song, and surely it is very meaningful. Thks !! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.136.194.42 (talk) 09:52, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Try searching for Cielito Lindo, and see if there is an article by that title. If so, the article may include a translation. —teb728 t c 10:32, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * And indeed it does. – ukexpat (talk) 14:27, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Stalis Crete photo not good representation of stalis


The photo on displaying stalis is not a good representation of the town itself there are a number of views that are 10 times better please revise and contact me at to supply some — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noirin kelly (talk • contribs) 10:42, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * If you have photos you took entirely by yourself, you can upload them at Commons:Special:Upload. See Help:Files for more information on how to upload and use files. —teb728 t c 11:05, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Question adding mods to softwares
I been working on some softwares by adding mods to it, to be more realistic. These softwares are games on the markets and posted on wikis. Now some of these games arent that good, til someone can improve it. I just started this and updating my user's profile and expanding Japanese Warships in WWII. Wasnt sure if i can or allow to upload an file for users to download or giving links for them to switch and download from there. I just want to improve the games in WWII mostly and help expands wikipedia sources. One of these software's forum is out of date and spammers have taken a toll there and look like it will be abandoned soon. Thank you, Thomas — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redindus69 (talk • contribs) 11:23, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * When you say you have “been working on some software,” do you mean that you have been creating/editing encyclopedia articles about games, or do you mean you have been programing the games themselves? Wikipedia contains encyclopedia articles about games, but it does not contain games themselves. So if you are thinking of uploading game files, sorry, there is no place for that here. —teb728 t c 12:05, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

I havent posted anything on encyclopedia articles about games yet, just updating some Japanese warships at the moments. I didnt think im allow to post any files for that games i mention, but wasnt sure if i can drop a link for them to goto and download it from there. Only changing some codes to be more accurate while in game like it took place in WWII. If you goto "Pacific Storm" page you will see article (Reception) that have negative feedbacks. I manage to correct most details and have some fans out there to make more models to improve the game itself over the years. Later when i get all this completed, then i can update that page (Pacific Storm) if i am allow to. So others can take a peek and try it out for fun. The offical web site is not doing well, the forum is falling aparts due to spammers and malewares. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redindus69 (talk • contribs) 12:37, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Hello, I've worked in mods myself, and no. The game engine and the unmodded content is copyrighted work, you can not post it on Wikipedia. Even if it isn't (some older engines have been opensourced and some games are opensource at the get-go), please understand that Wikipedia is not a filehosting service. I recommend joining something like ModDB or IndieDB instead.--  Obsidi ♠ n   Soul   13:36, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank for your time guys for helping me with this details...

I want to say one more thing before i closed this, the informations on some ships on WWII arent correct. If you dont use common sense and read the details more closer and use judgements, then you will get the big pictures. Compare to other ships arent that different, for example when i was changing the Mogami Class Cruiser and max speed is 37knots. It should been 34.5 knots at full load (12,400tons) the Mogami Cruiser at that time was light/standard load around 8,500tons. Later on will be added torpedo protections and switch to 8"50 guns instead of triple 6" guns. Also added crew listed as peacetime (minimum crew) to wartime and giving XXX/XXX tags. As well the range of the ships based on fuel (oil) by tonnage and calulate by cruising speed. Now some of these ships that have been posted are way off. I thinking about having a book publish someday and hopefully we can clear some of this up, infact you guys will never going to complete this without doing some solid ground works. There just no books out there have complete details on them, of course you cant just guess them, but using calulation measurements and best knowledges as possible.
 * I decided to stop working on wiki due to lack of trusts and teamworks. Sorry it didnt worked out for some of you guys. For now on, i will keep the details to myself and expand it elsewhere. I manage to undo all my works by removing the details and leave the rest for you guys!

Thomas — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redindus69 (talk • contribs) 10:26, 20 July 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry you feel this way, but perhaps you misunderstood what Wikipedia is for. It's an encyclopedia and verifiability is a core policy. Original research is simply not acceptable, sorry. There are certain things that constitute as common sense knowledge (i.e. information which do not require sources like "The sum of 1 and 1 is 2"), and the speed of warships isn't one of them. If the information does not exist, we just leave them blank, not make something up.


 * As for teamwork, the other users who have contacted you regarding your edits are actually trying to steer you in the right direction.--  Obsidi ♠ n   Soul   12:32, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

I know this may sound silly, but some details i have inputs are facts and they kept changing it back the way it was. One i had a conversation with and explaining that i have good source of informations on that booklet and posted it, it didnt come through. So i have no ideas what they are trying to do or they want the credits for themselves. Anyway i appreciated your supports and kindness :) Thomas — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redindus69 (talk • contribs) 15:59, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Adding a Sl. No: column
In the Malayalam films of 2011 article, please help me put a serial number (Sl. No:) column in the extreme left of the table listing the films released in the year. This is required to quickly find out how many films released in the year, sequentially. I tried but not able to align the table properly. I put a help-me request in my talk page, but no support received. Anish Viswa  13:03, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Yuck. I've found a way to do it, and have done January's films in my sandbox. About half an hour's editing... BUT over here is a comment that "current concensus is to format filmographies as sortable tables". If this is true, then a better way to reformat the table is to simplify it, doing away with all the rowspans and formatting each release date as a single cell. -- John of Reading (talk) 13:52, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Definitely want to coordinate this with WP:FILM rather than working on a single article. The no-rowspan/sortable-single-rows format guideline is quite explicit, but it's from WP:ACTOR, so I don't know if it is applicable. DMacks (talk) 14:08, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * On the one hand, I like the look of the table with the rowspan for the dates. However, I also like sortable tables, and know those two options don't play well together.--  SPhilbrick  T  14:57, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Does it really have to be on the left? If you want to keep the Rowspan, and not make it sortable, it isn't terribly difficult, just slightly tedious, to add a count column to the right: here, for example-- SPhilbrick  T  15:21, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * For these tables, unlike discography tables, the colors help visually group the entries. Keeping that formatting in the non-rowspan format would give a similar visual grouping. It would lose the visual grouping by date, but keep the grouping by month, and I'm not sure there is substantial value in emphasizing "which ones were same day?". DMacks (talk) 16:34, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Hindu
Hi,I feel there should be a correction in the List of Philosophers and Saints as there were names of many number of great saints are missing. Thiruvalluvar is one of the Important Philosopher of the Hindu Religion. Please Edit the article or else tell me how to edit the article.

Thanks & Regards, Arun — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.193.238.98 (talk) 15:11, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Generally, the only names added to lists on Wikipedia are ones that already have an existing article. To which article are you referring? We may be able to assist you better if we knew which one. TN X Man  15:13, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Editing Title
Can you edit the title of an article? WWEWizard (talk) 16:02, 19 July 2011 (UTC)


 * The correct procedure to rename an article is to move the article to another title (see Help:How to move a page). This will automatically create an article under the new title with the content of the old article and turn the old article into a redirect to that new article. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 16:16, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I presuming that you are talking about Korean Air Lines Flight 85, which you want moved to Korean Air Flight 85. In my opinion this is a quite reasonable move, unfortunately Korean Air Flight 85 is currently a redirect to Operation Yellow Ribbon. I believe the redirect for Korean Air Flight 85 would have to be removed first. I added a tag to the redirect, and presuming it is speedily deleted, the page can then be moved. (I'll do the move after that, If I forget, drop me a line). There are limitations on moving pages until you have been on wikipedia for (I think) 4 days and have 10 edits.Naraht (talk) 19:13, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Done Naraht (talk) 02:25, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I have edited all the others. WWEWizard (talk) 15:02, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Question on info boxes
Hi there-

I would like to know how to add a website to the infobox for a robot. The Template:Infobox_robot does not currently include a space for a website, unlike the infobox for Template:Infobox_information_appliance. Is it possible to update the robot template to include a website. I am working on bringing the ASIMO article up to date and would like to include the link in the infobox section.

Thanks,

--Vanillase (talk) 16:09, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I created a website parameter for infobox robot. Ryan Vesey contribs  16:29, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank You! --Vanillase (talk) 17:12, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

printing Wiki mathematical articles (eg Laplace Transform) so that full math notation is reproduced faithfully
I research lots of math-based articles on wiki and often want to print copies. In the past I could do this with ease and the math /equations came out perfectly. But recently the notation has started coming out very blurred though the text is OK.

I use WindowsXP and either Google Chrome or the latest version of Firefox operating on a 32 bit desktop. At first I thought this might be due to my fairly recent switch to Chrome but I don't think so because I get perfect results from other web sites (eg from Mathematica); and whereas Firefox used to give perfect results from wiki it does not do so anymore

I have Googled this problem on the web ad infinitum but the results are very patchy, conflicting and in some cases rather dubious. I have also contacted your help desk without success. Can you help please _ HELP!!!

ps I am new (today) to this site

Westsussexbysea (talk) 16:53, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Have you used the "print this version" button under the print/export tab on the left? Otherwise you should use the "Download as PDF" button.  Here is a PDF file of Laplace transform. Ryan Vesey  contribs  16:58, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I hope the above response is helpful for your main question, but I'm curious about the statement: I have also contacted your help desk without success. This is the help desk. Where else did you contact?-- SPhilbrick  T  17:21, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Now that I've looked at the pdf, the math equations are less crisp that I would have expected. I haven't used the pdf option very much, has it always looked like this? I would have guessed it would be better.
 * The equations seem very crisp to me, you might be having a browser issues or general computer troubles. Ryan Vesey contribs  17:41, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Here's what I see, blown up to 800%




 * It looks the same on two different computers, and two different browsers. Is this the best that math can be rendered?-- SPhilbrick  T  18:10, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

How to see if your rough draft page has been review
I have recently wrote up and Wikipedia page the dicusses a marketing research firm called Peryam and Kroll, Instead of sending it to the public, I sent it in for review to Wikipedia staff to see what needs to be changed or added for complete approval. It has been two weeks since i sent it off and wasn't sure how to see if someone sent back changes for me to fix.

What is the process to see if content was reviewed and needs editing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peryam&Kroll (talk • contribs) 17:24, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Where did you send it? You have no edits other than this one, and I don't find anything on Wikipedia with "Peryam and kroll" in it.-- SPhilbrick  T  17:35, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, I also have to inform you of two other issues. We do not allow usernames that leave the impression that someone is editing on behalf of an individual or entity. See Username policy. Additionally, you should read Wp:COI. That will tell you that we discourage writing about a subject if you are too close to it. If such a subject exists, you are welcomed, even encouraged to contribute information to the talk page, where uninvolved editors can made the editorial judgement about inclusion.-- SPhilbrick  T  17:39, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Email Alerts
Are there any services the provide email alerts if an article has changed? Or is there a way to get Wikipedia to send an email update? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jhill30 (talk • contribs) 17:30, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * This used to be done; however, it does not work on English Wikipedia due to the sheer volume of articles on peoples' watchlists. Have you read Help:Watching pages? Ryan Vesey  contribs  17:39, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * (ec)There is a service, recently enabled to let you know if your talk page has been edited. There used to be a service to do the same for articles, but I believe it was disabled due to too much traffic. Are you familiar with watchlists? These can keep you informed, but not via email.-- SPhilbrick  T  17:43, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Where to go?
An editor is already more then a year trying to add his personal opinion into articles. He is following almost the entire range of articles related to euthanasia. The guy is already blocked several times for editwarring. His edits have been undone hundreds of times by many different editors. And still it goes on and on and on. What is the best place to file a complained? An earlier attempt on Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts failed, due to the problem user plain ignoring the advice. Help! Night of the Big Wind talk  18:14, 19 July 2011 (UTC)


 * I think that this user Night of the Big Wind is just wikihounding me. Following and changing each edition I made at any place. Now threating me and assuming bad faith   An admin already warned him due his behaviour against me. --  ClaudioSantos  ¿?  18:58, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * You ad hominem attacks are also not new... Night of the Big Wind  talk  23:16, 19 July 2011 (UTC)


 * The proper place to go is probably WP:DRN User:Night of the Big Wind is going to have to provide diffs when they create the report at WP:DRN which show what the problem is.  No one knows what the problem is without such diffs.  -- Jayron  32  20:02, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I got confused where to file the report, so I thought that I better ask here first. Night of the Big Wind  talk  21:31, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Blocked
I received notice this morning I was going to be blocked for misuse and I don't understand, I only play games, do not buy anything..Keep in touch with friends can you help me. [email redacted] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.178.91.45 (talk) 18:42, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * [[Image:AROBAZE.png|20px]] Please do not include contact details in your questions. We are unable to provide answers by any off-wiki medium and this page is highly visible across the internet.  The details have been removed, but if you want them to be permanently removed from the page history, please email [mailto:oversight-l@lists.wikimedia.org oversight-l@lists.wikimedia.org].
 * Without more information, it is hard to advise you. The IP from which you are posting is not the subject of a block request. But I will observe that none of "playing games", "buy[ing] anything" and "keep[ing] in touch with friends" is anything to do with Wikipedia, so I wonder if you are actually at the wrong help desk, and you need to be contacting some other service which is threatening to block you? --ColinFine (talk) 18:57, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Advice on edits for Menthol Cigarette
Hi editors, I've been wanting to make some edits to the menthol cigarette page, but for reasons outlined in my user page, wanted to seek some input from the community before moving ahead with those edits. However, the talk page for that article isn't very active, and it's been a week since I posted - no response. Could somebody check out my draft on my sandbox page and let me know what you think? Thanks! Balloccoli (talk) 20:29, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Replied on the talk page. Ryan Vesey contribs  20:56, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Checkuser question
When a checkuser checks your IP, does it check the IP that you registerd it on, or the IP you have recentley edited it with?(if you changed your IP(not that i'm going to do it)).-- GoldenGlory84 (talk) 21:04, 19 July 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't have checkuser access and don't know details but I think they mostly look at the IP used in recent edits. See CheckUser and note Checkuser. Many users have a dynamic IP address which often changes without the user doing something. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:52, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * A CheckuUser is able to see the IP address, and other technical information, from all actions you take on the wiki - which includes actions such as account creation (a logged action), as well as edits.  Chzz  ► 03:48, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Citation Requirements
Hello All,

I have never edited Wikipedia before and would like to start doing so. I am not so clear on exactly what is required for a citation. Does information have to come from a specific book/journal/webpage? I recently took the Budweiser brewery tour in St. Louis and would like to update the Budweiser Wikipedia with some information I learned there. Would citing the tour be acceptable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lak51 (talk • contribs) 21:13, 19 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for asking. You cannot use something you learned on a tour. It must have been published by a reliable source which can be checked by others. See Verifiability. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:43, 19 July 2011 (UTC)


 * If you go the talk page of the article (which could be various ones; maybe talk:Budweiser (Anheuser-Busch) or maybe talk:Budweiser) and state some of things you learned and which you'd like to add, others might then (if they also think it would make a good addition) help you find those reliable sources if they exist to verify the material.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:19, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

privacy issue - deleting history
Hi,

My daughter was messing around on wikipedia and entered our home address as a joke (on the wiki entry for Red Panda) at around 20:52 today (July 19, 2011). It was deleted by someone else right away, but our address still shows up on the 'view history' tab of the Red Panda page. Is there anyway that I can delete that 'history' entry? It's a big privacy breech - believe me my daughter WILL NOT be making that mistake again.

Thanks for your help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.213.153.185 (talk) 21:14, 19 July 2011 (UTC)


 * ✅. 28bytes (talk) 21:15, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

delete
Why does my subpage keep getting deleted?Juliannriolo (talk) 23:14, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * After looking at your history, it appeares that you are trying to create a subpage at "Parentpage/subpage". On Wikipedia there groups of pages called namespaces. If one were to create a page at "Parentpage/subpage", that page is created in the same namespace as the actual content articles on the wiki. If you wish to create a subpage in your own user namespace, you will have to have User:Juliannriolo in the name. For example, you could create a sandbox for yourself at User:Juliannriolo/Sandbox. This page, since it is in your own namespace, will not be deleted by an admin. Happy editing, hajat  vrc  with WikiLove @ 23:27, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * (ec) There are three entries on your Talk page explaining that pages have been deleted as unambiguous advertising, under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion. --ColinFine (talk) 23:30, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * To follow up on what the two people above have said, creating a subpage under your own userpage is the correct way to go. But, it still has to adhere to the policies of Wikipedia in general which, it seems from Colin's comment, your attempts have not been living up to.  Dismas |(talk) 00:08, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Juliann, I see you are trying to create an article for the Brass Taps at the University of Guelph. First of all you should read Wikipedia’s notability standards for businesses/organizations. Wikipedia accepts articles only for subjects that are notable by our standards. If you think the Brass Taps meets our notability standards after reading them, you need to write the article to be neutral rather than promotional; Wikipedia does not tolerate promotional articles. The drafts on your user page and on the user page of your alternate account are hopelessly promotional and would be deleted on sight if they were in article spaces. Think of something that might be written in the Toronto Star, but with footnotes like a research paper. Verify all facts in the article with citations to independent reliable sources. (Since the Brass Taps is a university activity, the university is not an independent source.)
 * On a side issue, I notice that you are using three different accounts, User:Juliannriolo, User:Thereseriolo and your original account, User:Julianntherese. This is permitted since you are not using them disruptively. But it makes it difficult to know how to send you a message. I suggest that you use only one of them. —teb728 t c 07:03, 20 July 2011 (UTC)