Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2011 June 30

= June 30 =

Navigating away from pages currently in edit
Hi. What happened to the warnings that would pop up whenever clicking a link that would erase the current edit window information during an edit? Thanks. ~ AH1 (discuss!) 01:54, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * That feature can be turned on in the editing tab of your user preferences, assuming you're using Vector. Robert Skyhawk (T C) 01:59, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Weird. It was on for me (maybe on for everybody by default) up until about, say, 15 minutes ago.  I just checked, and it isn't working anymore.  Apparently some update removed it.  This may be an issue better suited for WP:VPT rather than here.  -- Jayron  32  02:00, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Table of contents vanished on talk page
Please see this diff: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Tea_Party_movement&diff=next&oldid=436626870. This version still has the ToC: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Tea_Party_movement&oldid=436626870. This one doesn't: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Tea_Party_movement&oldid=436628848. Why did the ToC go away, and how do I get it back? Thanks! Jo3sampl (talk) 02:43, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The template: Template:Tlg contains the parameter, which forces the page in question to suppress the table of contents.  I have no idea why this parameter is in said template, but the only person who has edited the template is  so maybe you can drop him a line and ask him why it has that parameter.  Personally, I don't see why it should have it... But I'm no expert on template syntax (by no expert, I mean "I don't know jackshit") .  -- Jayron  32  02:57, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I removed it as it simply makes no sense for this to be in a link template which may be used on any page--I bet its inclusion was unintended.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk)
 * Whoa, Jayron32, a little on the profane side, “I don't know jackshit”. Please keep it clean and read this. Thanks, A comment by a person who has been editing Wikipedia since October 28, 2010. (talk) 05:47, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Um, yeah, where did I not assume good faith, excepting on my own abilities? I'm not sure that AGF applies to self-actualized recognition of ones own limitations.  And I'm not aware of any Wikipedia policy or guideline which prevents me from saying jackshit.  -- Jayron  32  05:50, 30 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Your post is inappropriate in every respect. Don't try to police anyone's language. Citing AGF here is like wondering if defamation was committed after watching a Rodney Dangerfield routine.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:58, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Jayron! Don't know how you figured that out, but I'm glad you did. -- Jo3sampl (talk) 19:36, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Table went bizarre
Hello, I recently tried to edit a soccer player's Wikipedia page with information regarding his World Cup Qualification duties. I added the correct information about the Vietnamese player, Phạm Thành Lương, to the table that shows his International goals. Well, I clicked show preview and everything looked great, so I then proceeded to save it, but now the player's honours and awards are mixed in the table.

I tried to make the table on this page but it won't work.

The fourth column should not look like this. Sorry for making this mistake but could someone help me with this?

Here is the link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ph%E1%BA%A1m_Th%C3%A0nh_L%C6%B0%C6%A1ng

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Runningtaco (talk • contribs) 03:22, 30 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Another editor fixed it. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 03:30, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

RSS feed for current events page
For me the Wikipedia current events page is a very valuable news resource. To be able to access this information along with all my other news subscriptions would be great.

Personally I subscribe to several (many) online news feeds, but some news sources that I find otherwise interesting I no longer read as they do not provide a news feed. I no longer view them, as visiting these (several) sites each day and determining if I have seen the articles before or not seems like wasting too much time for sources that do not regularly have stories of interest to me. I do however still consult the Wikipedia current events, as I often find stories of interest that I see nowhere else.

I understand there are a few technical problems to implement a feed for this page, but I can't imagine them being very hard to overcome (at least one person has personally provided a feed for this page in the past by parsing it and selecting the parts to publish in the feed) and the benefit to people online seems high for this.

Karderio (talk) 03:43, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * A better place to raise this issue is at Village pump (technical). People who hang out there would be the ones who are most interested in discussing and implementing such a proposal.  -- Jayron  32  04:11, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I have proposed this here now. Karderio (talk) 04:58, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

disruption
I've already warned them, but keep and eye out for them. This guy and that guy, okay? This is what they did. I gave them a uw-tpv1 (un-Wikipedian Level 1 Talk page vandalism warning). Thanks, A comment by a person who has been editing Wikipedia since October 28, 2010. (talk) 05:42, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Did you notice both IP's edits were a year ago! What's more, both edits to a talk page which, although off-topic and not particularly helpful, were pretty innocuous. It is inappropriate to leave warning templates for such old issues that were not really vandalism anyway.   You should have assumed good faith in this case, so I have removed the warnings.  Astronaut (talk) 12:10, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Whoa, I was assuming good faith, I just forgot to look at the history log, don't criticize me. Don't criticize. Thanks, A comment by a person who has been editing Wikipedia since October 28, 2010. (talk) 16:47, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Re: Picture
In the morning when i Saw the profile of Nandamuri Balakrishna the actor of Tollywood Industry the picture regarding his profile is not fair. If you doesn't have any pictures collect them and publish,don't use unnecessary photos. please remove it as soon as possible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.102.215.140 (talk) 13:14, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for reporting this. I have repaired the article and warned the vandal. -- John of Reading (talk) 13:24, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

thumbnails of an image not updated
Hi,

I uploaded some image files to include on a page (Price Action Trading - images 2 and 3 in sequence) and I realised I still needed to edit something.

So I made the change and uploaded new versions, but wikipedia hasn't generated new thumbnails. Can I force it to?

Thanks Ahardy66 (talk) 14:34, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * You might need to bypass your cache. See WP:BYPASS for instructions.  Astronaut (talk) 14:47, 30 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Or force a server purge, see WP:PURGE. – ukexpat (talk) 15:36, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

http://wikien4.appspot.com/wiki/User:Alfred_ban/Aveos_Fleet_Performance
Hello, I created a page name Aveos Fleet Performance Inc.. Someone I know try to fing the page by google and wrote Aveos wikipedia. Since I have created a redirect for the name Aveos, the person should have found the page. Instead, the person found a page named Aveos Fweet Performance. I don't think it is the only page like this. Is there something I did wrong that I can change or is it a bug in the system? Thank you for your help. Alfred ban (talk) 14:55, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Issue with Google, and how it orders its results, and when updates become cached at Google, etc. etc. have nothing whatsoever to do with Wikipedia. We have no control over what goes on at other websites.  In general, it can take some time for updates at Wikipedia to be reflected in a Google search, sometimes days.  However, anything "out of the ordinary" that shows up at Google is completely and totally out of the control of Wikipedia.  It isn't worth concerning yourself over; just make sure the actual Wikipedia article you are working on is the best quality it can be and hope that the rest of the internet will take care of itself.  Even if it doesn't take care of itself, there's not much you can do from Wikipedia to fix the problem.  C'est la guerre... -- Jayron  32  15:02, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Hello Jayron! well thank you so much for your answer. So I'll take care of the wikipedia article I was working on and let the internet do its magic!! C'est la guerre, that I understand :) thank you Alfred ban (talk) 15:22, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Just as an FYI, I will be filing a page move request to move Aveos Fleet Performance Inc. back to Aveos Fleet Performance to comply with Wikpedia's naming conventions for companies. – ukexpat (talk) 15:39, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅ - requested. – ukexpat (talk) 15:42, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * OK great thanks! I did not know about that. Thank you Alfred ban (talk) 17:47, 30 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Google only shows a few hits from each website. If I ask Google to search Wikipedia with then the article is currently the second hit for me. Perhaps it wil later be included in the few Wikipedia hits in a general search but that is not controlled by Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:40, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I looked at the page you mentioned: http://wikien4.appspot.com/wiki/User:Alfred_ban/Aveos_Fleet_Performance. It's a joke site called "Elmer Fudd wikipedia" which replaces letters in Wikipedia articles, apparently to mimic how Elmer Fudd talks. It is surely an independent site not associated with the real Wikipedia or the Wikimedia Foundation. But they claim "a WIKIMEDIA project" with http://bits.wikimedia.org/images/wikimedia-button.png in the lower right corner and they use the Wikipedia logo without permission. The site can be listed at Mirrors and forks but I wonder whether more should be done in this case. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:12, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Something has gone wrong with an article
I tried to edit the article on London TravelWatch and it has gone strange.

It is the section labeled "future" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daithidebarra (talk • contribs) 18:53, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * If it is that an entire paragraph of text was in a box, it was because there was a leading space on the first line. It has been fixed.Naraht (talk) 18:58, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

who gains from sensitizing communual issues like drawing of Muhammad etc.,, in the name of freedom of speech aren't we suppressing others freedom of belief and religion?
Well this is to bring to your kind notice that in the name of upholding freedom of speech, we are hurting billions of muslims who are our fellow humans through cartoons/drawings publishing of Muhammad. In fact we are suppressing their freedom of religion and belief. Don't they deserve respect for their religious entities? What the world gains in publishing few pencil strokes from some layman and assigning same to Muhammad? Lets remember we all humans are journeying in same boat of life and the utmost necessity today for all of us is communal harmony and peace. Strangely some sites are asking muslims to recognize that they are being allowed to stay and develope and therefore bear everything patiently or else leave the land of their present living. Please ask those baffoons of modern days as to where from a muslim comes and where goes. Is the muslim a different being than rest of the humans? Certainly there are few idle ones having ample time to pass and arouse peoples sentiment through their black mailings in the name of art or freedom of speech. These should acknowledge that a majority of fellow human beings now are busy trying to find food for themselves and their families unlike them. The tide is changing and some day those mischief mongrers may know that in fact they have not contributed anything but brought mis-trust amongst humanity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.241.146.165 (talk) 19:22, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * You should read this page, which goes a long way towards explaining Wikipedia's policy regarding images of Muhammad. TN X Man  19:25, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * This page is for editing questions, not debate. If you'd like to discuss this, the proper place would be at Talk:Muhammad. Though I have to warn you, this has been discussed many many times at that very page. Dismas |(talk) 19:26, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Peter Belohlavek
Peter Belohlavek is a new(ish) BLP page. I added some tags while doing new page patrol. The page creator had a conversation on my talk page about the tags on my talk page. I made what I hoped was useful suggestions and recommended WP:FEED. The apparent subject posted to my talk page demanding removal of the content using a user name that may imply a legal threat. The page creator and the apparent subject appear to have similar peculiarities in their use of English (this may be due to both being English as a second language speakers coming form the same background). There now appears to be an edit war on the page. The page does not lack references, but many of them are non-English. I lack the language skills to work out whether they're independent. Stuartyeates (talk) 19:54, 30 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Um... much of the article currently is badly written (more like a brochure than anything else) and promotional. Which seems strange, considering that he himself apparently hates it so much. Might be a 'fan' or a 'follower'? I can not find evidence of notability on the web except for primary sources. I think it's best if it's speedied as an A7. --  Obsidi ♠ nSoul  20:15, 30 June 2011 (UTC)


 * The article's creator has blanked the page indicating a desire that it be deleted so I have tagged it for G7 speedy deletion accordingly. – ukexpat (talk) 20:21, 30 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Ah. I thought the blanking was being done by the (purported) subject of the article himself. My bad.--  Obsidi ♠ nSoul  20:24, 30 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks ppl. Stuartyeates (talk) 06:59, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Profile Box with Article
When creating an article, how do you create the profile box that I see on the right hand corner of other articles in Wikipedia. Does it automatically generate after the article is published?

20:20, 30 June 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knoxlawfirm (talk • contribs)


 * That box is an infobox, of which there are many. It depends on the type of article that you are writing when determining which box to use.  If you gave us the name of the article, it would help a lot.  And no, it is not automatically generated.  Dismas |(talk) 20:21, 30 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I assume you are referring to User:Knoxlawfirm/Knox McLaughlin Gornall & Sennett, P.C.? I have tagged it for speedy deletion as too promotional in tone. You user name is also a violation of the user name policy. – ukexpat (talk) 20:31, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

List of NBA players from Canada
The article has an incomplete entry for Brian Heaney. Although MR. Heaney attended a Canadian University (Acadia) he was born in the USA (see http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/heanebr01.html) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.68.10.92 (talk) 20:39, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

You can actually edit it yourself, see Be bold. SwisterTwister  talk  23:04, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

putting lists into columns
Hi, I came across the article Twyla Tharp with its hugely long lists - can they be put into columns in some way? otherwise they look pretty ugly, unbalancing the article. This is the first problem as I see it, & they will need to be style edited as well. But how to put them into 2 or three columns? Thanks in advance, Manytexts (talk) 23:41, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * See Help:Columns. DMacks (talk) 23:48, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, Manytexts (talk) 22:55, 2 July 2011 (UTC)