Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2011 May 28

= May 28 =

District of Columbia Water and Sewer Authority
Why can't I edit this article? It doesn't appear to be semi-protected (I don't see a lock symbol on the upper right corner). 198.228.194.216 (talk) 01:17, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The article has never been protected. And no edit filter prevented your edit. Try clicking on this direct link. Goodvac (talk) 01:22, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Nevermind. The edit buttons are now visible. I don't know what happened. Thanks. 198.228.194.216 (talk) 01:25, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * There is a problem where some users sometimes see a "View source" tab instead of "Edit" on unprotected pages. If this happens then try clicking "View source" anyway. It's the same url as the "Edit" tab and it should work if the page is not protected. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:47, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, that was the issue. Thanks for the helpful tip. 198.228.194.216 (talk) 03:45, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

translate foriegn websites into english
Is there a way to translate foriegn language websites into english? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.40.100.70 (talk) 01:59, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Try Google Translate: http://translate.google.com/#. Like any machine translation, it is less-than-perfect, but you can often make reasonable sense of the output. AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:30, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Supreme Court Justice William J. Brennan Jr.
There is an error in Justice Brennan's bio under "Early Life." It states that he and his wife had four children, but in reality they only had three: William III, Hugh and Nancy. They did not have a child named Shirley Burns Brennan. Reference: Recent biography by Seth Stern, Justice Brennan: Liberal Champion  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.143.69.111 (talk) 02:11, 28 May 2011 (UTC) Done. SwisterTwister (talk) 02:27, 28 May 2011 (UTC)


 * The alleged fourth child was added by an IP who claimed to be related  but I can find no evidence of this so I support the removal. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:43, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Editing a Wickipedia Article- How can I change a picture or image?
I would like to change /edit a jpeg image on an article, how is this done pls?02:51, 28 May 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.125.50.166 (talk)


 * It depends on the article, image location and image license, but all images must be uploaded before they can be used. See Images and come back with more info if you still have questions. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:56, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

sole survivors of airplane crashes
missing the 9 year old dutch boy who survived last years flight over tripoli, libya (al afriqia airways) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.203.2.65 (talk • contribs) 07:26, 28 May 2011


 * Thank you for your suggestion. You'll need to supply a reference to a "reliable source" (such as a newspaper, book, news website) to add a fact like that.


 * As long as you have a reference, please feel free to add it yourself. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the  link at the top.


 * The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes—they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to).  Chzz  ►  07:29, 28 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Do you mean List of sole survivors of airline accidents or incidents? That list includes the Dutch boy Ruben van Assouw from Afriqiyah Airways Flight 771 which crashed in Tripoli last year. He was added a year ago so perhaps you saw an outdated mirror of the list at another site outside Wikipedia's control. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:41, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

reporting inappropriate photo
please check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_447 for an inappropriate photo at the bottom of page 124.182.18.165 (talk) 07:31, 28 May 2011 (UTC)


 * That was caused by vandalism, which was removed less than 2 minutes later, and the user who did it has been blocked from editing. If you're still seeing it, try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_447?action=purge to force a refresh. Cheers,  Chzz  ► 07:35, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

ARUNBRAINY'S QUERY ABOUT CHEMICAL
WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE CHEMICAL ADHESIVE/SEALANT USED TO ENCAPSULATE OR COVERING THE COPPER WIRE COIL,IN SUBMERCIBLE PUMP, WHICH IS VERY HARD AND BRITTLE DARK GREEN GLOSSY COMPOUND. . THE PUMP IS USED IN ''Evaporative air cooler '' IN INDIAN TERRAINS. . . . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arunbrainy (talk • contribs) 07:31, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, this page is for helping people with using wikipedia, and not with general questions. You can perhaps ask over at the reference deskTiggerjay (talk) 07:44, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

File Histories
Would it be possible to make it so that on [[File: type articles that if a specific file is used on a page, that it would be listed on the File's history? Currently, the history lists the changes made to the file, not the wikilinks that have refered to / used the file.  Or would this be too time consuming like a search on Windows Vista?[[User:Curb Chain|Curb Chain]] (talk) 10:13, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The software only knows which pages currently use a file; I don't know of any efficient way to find which pages used to use a file but no longer do so. The current uses are listed in the "File links" part of the file page. Also, if you are looking at a file page, the "What links here" link in the left sidebar should give you this information. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:22, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Deleted post in the talk page of Pietro Badoglio
Few hours ago I wrote a post on the discussion page of article Pietro Badoglio. Later I discovered it does not show. I checked the page history and discovered it had been reverted i.e. deleted, but the name of the user who reverted the page does not show either. However if I am logged in my post does show!!!???

I do not know what this does mean, anyhow I think this fact is absolutely unacceptable and foreign to the spirit of Wikipedia. Please note: actually I did not edit the article according to my views, I just posted some remarks and comments on the talk page in order to inform readers on facts, mostly known to everybody (and accepted by historians) and answer questions asked by other readers in the discussion above. The only speculative point in my post (a tiny part) is the issue of the agreement between B. and Albert Kesselring which is now accepted by many Italians (historians too) as it is the only way to give a plausible explanation to a long series of events: it has been testified indirectly by witnesses on the place.

Whatever the case the suppression of information on a discussion page is a kind of behaviour that I do not think can be tolerated as it amounts to censorship and is in contrast with freedom of speech and research.Aldrasto11 (talk) 12:21, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The only edits I can see that you've made to the talk page of Pietro Badoglio were today, and have not been reverted. I'm afraid I can't see any sign of a previous change, or reversion there. Suppression of anything leaves a "username removed" or "edit summary removed" notice. Could you elaborate? Is it possible you made the comment somewhere, or that you did not save it? Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 12:29, 28 May 2011 (UTC)


 * All indications are that it's a cache issue (and you are jumping to large conclusions). You were not reverted; nothing was deleted. Your computer saved a cached version of the page for efficiency of memory use, and is displaying that when you are logged out. Just clear your cache.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:01, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I see three edits, made roughly six hours ago, related to "Fascist party membership and other issues". They are all present. Are those the edits in question?-- SPhilbrick  T  13:02, 28 May 2011 (UTC)


 * This is definitely a cache issue and not a reversion. The cached version could be on your computer, at your ISP, or on one of Wikimedia's servers which hasn't updated for some resaon. The bottom of Talk:Pietro Badoglio should currently say "This page was last modified on 28 May 2011 at 07:26." (or an offset if you are logged in with another time zone than UTC in your preferences). If you see an older time then you are seeing a cached version. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:31, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Image keeps being desplayed after reversion of the addition
In the article Sony, does anyone else see appearing inside the infobox? The edit adding the image was reverted by ClueBot NG, yet I still see the image in the infobox, even in the latest revision. Clearing my browser cache also had no effect. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 14:47, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Seems this was a browser issue. The image disappeared. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 14:54, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

PC Game Dust Tale of the wired west
I Love the game, I am hooked but now I have Windows XP and cannot play the Game. My question is there an up to date version of the game or a patch so I can play the version I have? If I have to purchase the game again, so be it, unless there is a down load that would be to quote Tony the Tiger GREAT!!!!! So I hope you can help or steer me to the right Phone # or E-Mail to get the mission accomplished. Please hurry because again I Love the game....Terry — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.129.254.212 (talk) 15:52, 28 May 2011 (UTC)


 * This is the Wikipedia Help Desk - for questions about using Wikipedia. So, we can't answer that question here.


 * I have copied your question over to our Reference Desk, in the Computing section - see Reference_desk/Computing.


 * Please check back there, to see if you get answers. Cheers,  Chzz  ► 15:56, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Bill Nye the Science Guy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_nye)
This sentence in the "Bill Nye" article contain erroneous imformation: "In 2004 and 2005, Nye hosted 100 Greatest Discoveries, an award-winning series produced by THINKFilm for The Science Channel and in high definition on the Discovery HD Theater." The error is in the attribution of "THINKFilm" as the producer of the series "100 Greatest Discoveries."

There are two companies named "thinkfilm." One, "thinkiflm", a production company located in Washington, DC (www.thinkfilm-inc.com) is the actual and correct producer of the "100 Greatest Discoveries" series. "THINKFilm" is a defunct/bankrupt film distribution company that was located in Toronto, Canada which had nothing to do with the "100 Greatest Discoveries" project. This confusion of the two similarly named companies should be corrected as the attribution of professional credits for production companies like "thinkfilm" is an important business credit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.67.25.242 (talk) 17:12, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * This isn't something that needs to be discussed here. This notice board is for the discussion of violations of the Biographies of Living people policy.  There is no violation or suspected violation here.  This should be brought up on the article's talk page.   GB fan (talk) 17:17, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The notice board for the dicussion of violations of the Biographies of Living people policy is WP:BLPN, not here. 216.93.212.245 (talk) 19:53, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
 * You are right, not sure what I was thinking. This page is for help in using Wikipedia.  This question still should be brought up on the talk poage of the article not here.  GB fan (talk) 19:56, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Disambiguation and diacriticals
If you have two people of roughly equal importance, and their names only differ in that one name has a diacritical - Zoë Smith and Zoe Smith - for instance... how then would you set up the disambiguation page? - ThafireAndThteel (talk) 18:22, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I would name the page without the diacritical. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:37, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Whereas I would use the diacritic. As long as both are linked from a disambiguation page, then it shouldn't matter too much. Each page should link to the dab page. Mjroots (talk) 20:40, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * If there's just the two, I wouldn't bother with a disambiguation page - I'd name them "Zoë Smith" and "Zoe Smith" (which is fine) - and add a hatnote on the top of each - for example, on the top of "Zoe Smith" you'd put something like  (example only; picking random info) - which will put,


 * See Template:Other uses for the many options.  Chzz  ► 22:09, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Georgia
Someone or something is preventing me from adding the name of Nino Burjanadze in the sub section 'Silver Revolution 2011' of the Georgia (country) article, also Democratic Movement-United Georgia omits the word Georgia when you try to include this. I have checked the view history tab and I can't see any actual vandalism, all I can see its some kind of unexplained vandalism Zylog79 (talk) 19:35, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Nino Burjanadze
If you try to edit the above paragraph on Georgia, notice the name Nino Burjanadze is not visible ???????? Something fishy going on here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zylog79 (talk • contribs) 19:39, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * If it is, I think it's just you. I can see the name Nino Burjanadze in both windows. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 20:43, 28 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Works for me - as shown in the screen print image here.
 * The only thing I notice is, "Nino Burjanadze" has a red wiggly underline, because it isn't a recognized dictionary word. Is it possible you've got something set which makes non-dictionary words not show up, on your browser?  Chzz  ► 22:20, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Can you kindly take a look at this link http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Georgia_%28country%29&action=edit&section=19 and see if you can see why the second to last reference (90) has been 'modified'? And if the name Nino Burjanadze appears? Thank you Zylog79 (talk) 01:35, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Zylog there seems to be something wrong with your browser. In your edit here you deleted some random words which I am sure you didn't intend to delete. —teb728 t c 02:47, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
 * In this series of edits to this section you deleted Nino Burjanadze three times and Georgia once. I have repaired them here and will try to repair your edits to the article. —teb728 t c 03:00, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi Teb728, thanks for your help, I ma using a different computer today, I was using a standard browser Firefox 3, otherwise I have no explanation why those words are being blocked?? Zylog79 (talk) 14:56, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
 * One thing to try then, is upgrade to Firefox 4 (unless you have some good reason not to). That might solve it - it wouldn't necessarily tell us why you had the trouble, but if it fixes it, it fixes it.  Chzz  ► 02:13, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

File:TonkPile.jpg
Hello:

I was wondering where you obtained the photo in the following link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:TonkPile.jpg

These are my cats, and while I don't mind that you're using one of my photos, I would like credit for the photo, and to correct one cat description: the blue point IS a blue MINK. Her eyes are closed, but you can rest assured that they are aqua, which makes her a mink.

Maria Sulikowski — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.81.59.18 (talk) 19:56, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Ckahler uploaded the picture 06-09-2006. They claimed the picture as their own work at that time.  GB fan (talk) 20:07, 28 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Ckahler - Courtney Kahler - also wrote, I added a couple of my Tonks, but they aren't the best shots to show body coloration and such. I hope others will feel free to add and/or edit the photos! My 3 are CFA registered, 2 of which are grand premiers in CFA. So they are good representations of the breed, at least in America. Tonks outside the US look a bit different.
 * The file has extended data to show it was taken at 23:20, 5 September 2006 with a Olympus digital camera.
 * The user uploaded another picture at the same time, shown here - File:CubbyLego.jpg. That one was apparently taken 5 March 2005, using the same model of camera (according to the EXIF information). It would appear to be the same platinum mink tonk from the first photo. Do you also recognize that one?
 * Are you absolutely certain it is one of your photos? I'm genuinely sorry to question you; we certainly take copyright matters very seriously. We try to assume the best from everyone, but that includes the original uploader - who did click to say "This is entirely my own work", back in 2006.  Chzz  ► 21:38, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Why so hard to add photo?
Wow, it is like deciphering an alien code in the dark with music blaring and police dogs attacking. After much searching I uploaded a photo, exactly copied and pasted the precise name into the precise spot in the 'edit' space for the article, deleted the old, and now neither one is visible. Went back to the upload screen, found that the new file is there, tried it again, as above--no success. 3X--no success. Out of ideas on how to decipher vague instructions that when followed lead no where. Took me 15-20 tries to find this page. Bluestem (talk) 20:47, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The picture, File:Manfreda inflorescence, flowers with petals intact.jpg is showing up in Manfreda maculosa. You might try purging] the server to see if that fixes the problem.  I did make one small change to the article to make the image be a thumbnail vs full size.  GB fan (talk) 20:55, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Copyright Infringement Help
Hi I just got a message from user Nortynort about the article Jim Chapman (Canadian) having copyright infringing content. I was under the impression that it was just the second paragraph (which I deleted) that had the copyright material, but I was sent that message after i deleted the paragraph. I do have permission to use the content in question, but I realized that the paragraph that had the content in it was unnesissary, so I deleted it instead. If there is still a problem, I can do the whole "The contents of this website (or page, if you are specifically releasing one section) are available for modification and reuse under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License 3.0 and the GNU Free Documentation License, unversioned with no invariant sections, front-cover texts, or back-cover texts." thing, it's just a bit of a hassle. Thanks in advance Goodbucket (talk) 21:26, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * It sounds like you have either got permission from the copyright holder, or are the copyright holder. However, we don't know this. In the latter case, see DCM. In the former, it's probably easier to ask NortyNort or post at Media copyright questions, which would also be a good venue to get more information if I've understood incorrectly. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 21:38, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Nelson Mandela semi-protected status
I would like to add some references to Nelson Mandela in film.

Am I blocked because I am new, or is the block on the actual page?

Thanks and keep up the good work!

Eric — Preceding unsigned comment added by Niemifilm (talk • contribs) 22:59, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Nelson Mandela is semi-protected (notice the little picture of a lock in the corner). From the protection log comments it is unlikely to be unprotected again anytime soon. You can suggest changes on the talk page or make the edit using an established Wikipedia account. (Making your own account is "a good thing".) Rmhermen (talk) 23:24, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * You would first need to create a Wikipedia account (which I see you have) and then become autoconfirmed. This happens automatically after you have made at least 10 edits over at least 4 days. Since you already have several edits today you should be able to edit these types of articles soon. Welcome to Wikipedia by the way! doom gaze   (talk)  23:37, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * (short version)
 * 'coz you are new. In 4 days, after you've made 10 edits (you've already made 7), you'll be able to edit these semi-protected pages.  Chzz  ► 00:45, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
 * And you are free to make edits to a majority of the articles on Wikipedia, there are only a select few which you will be prevented from editing. Tiggerjay (talk) 07:19, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Converting IP history to a handle
I have been editing as an IP for quite some time. I would like to start an account with a handle (Something clever I hope). Q: Is there any way that my history can be brought over? I have had about 10 or so different IP's (they seem to change every few months, the latest happened today). I have a pretty good idea of the past IP's and the articles I improved. 208.85.0.114 (talk) 23:20, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, out software doesn't allow for this. What you could do is create an account and write on your userpage "I edited using IP#1 from A to B, with IP #2 from B to C, etc." (Do keep in mind that it would allow people to possibly identify you, if that's something you're concerned about). NW ( Talk ) 23:22, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Avoiding this specific problem is one of the many advantages in creating a user account.  Chzz  ► 00:43, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Respectfully, I believe this person to be a sockpuppet of an indef-blocked user. This is an attempt to form a good hand account. — BQZip01 —  talk 05:44, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
 * BQ, So, you'll be wanting WP:SPI then?  Chzz  ► 10:02, 29 May 2011 (UTC)