Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2011 May 30

= May 30 =

Twinkle no longer working (solved)
Anyone else having this issue? Has Twinkle been disabled? My interface (the tabs) have returned to normal and when viewing prior edits I no longer have the option to perform any rollbacks, its basically as it normally is when Twinkle is disabled except I checked, disabled and reenabled it and it isn't coming back Darkwarriorblake (talk) 01:15, 30 May 2011 (UTC)


 * There's a new version of Twinkle being rolled out, and it may have teething troubles (or not work at all).


 * I think the best place to raise problems with this is, either https://github.com/azatoth/twinkle or Wikipedia talk:Twinkle.  Chzz  ► 01:20, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I didn't want to have to go through the trouble of signing up to github but I will do so. If there is a new version though you're probably right and that is the issue.  Thanks Darkwarriorblake (talk) 01:23, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Issue solved Darkwarriorblake (talk) 13:18, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Alexandra Powers and Katharyn_Powers
1. Should Alexandra Powers go under the Category:Former_Buddhists since her personal life has a quote that says "I was a Buddhist for about six months."? 2. Also in Alexandra's mothers article Katharyn_Powers should it say in personal life that she is divorced and that her ex husband teaches acting? I found a source: http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,308844,00.htm Neptunekh2 (talk) 01:47, 30 May 2011 (UTC)


 * (To both question) - sure, why not, if you want to - be bold. If someone doesn't like it, they can change it back. If you are not too sure - or if someone does remove it - then discuss it on the article talk pages, which are, respectively, Talk:Alexandra Powers and Talk:Katharyn_Powers. See WP:BRD.


 * Just be extra-careful on any biography of a living person to ensure you cite a reliable source. That ew.com ref looks OK to me. If in doubt as to whether something is a good source, you can always ask on Reliable sources/Noticeboard (shortcut, WP:RSN).


 * Because BLP's (bio's of living people) need extra care, it's worth reading WP:BLP too.  Chzz  ► 02:05, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * WP:BLPCAT says “Categories regarding religious beliefs … should not be used unless … the subject's beliefs … are relevant to their notable activities or public life.” Do you think her former Buddhism is relevant to her notable activities or public life? —teb728 t c 02:11, 30 May 2011 (UTC)


 * I would go with "No" for #1. WP:BLPCAT, which you've been referred to before, says that they should be in the religious category only if "...the subject has publicly self-identified with the belief or orientation in question; and the subject's beliefs or sexual orientation are relevant..."  She claims to have been a Buddhist for six months.  They don't self identify as that now and people experiment with religions throughout their lives.  Dismas |(talk) 02:14, 30 May 2011 (UTC)


 * And I have removed the category. GB fan (talk) 02:37, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * That's WP:BRD in action, and absolutely fair enough. (But a quick comment on the talk would be nice, GB fan)  Chzz  ► 06:58, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks I have corrected that oversight. GB fan (talk) 11:54, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Problem with box padding
Hi,

On my user page, I'm getting extra left-padding in the box on the right. I'm not sure how to get rid of this. Does anybody know?

I created a simpler test case in my sandbox. Here is the code:

— Tommyjb  Talk!  (01:58, 30 May 2011)


 * The same line in which the Wikipedia table of contents is such as "Random article" and "Main Page" is always larger and emptier. That appears for all userpages, example: User:Jimbo. I hope this answers your question, SwisterTwister (talk) 02:21, 30 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi. Sorry, but I'm not sure what you mean.  In case I wasn't clear, this image illustrates what I'm talking about.  — Tommyjb   Talk!  (02:45, 30 May 2011)


 * Oh I thought you meant the side of the page. Well, my page shows that space as well...perhaps you can ask at Technical support. SwisterTwister (talk) 05:28, 30 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I've asked there.  — Tommyjb   Talk!  (12:58, 30 May 2011)

Alexandra_Powers
Why can't Alexandra_Powers' article talk about her smoking? Holly_marie_combs article talks about her smoking. Neptunekh2 (talk) 02:52, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The place to discuss changes to the Alexandra Powers article is on the talk page for the article which can be found at Talk:Alexandra Powers. Please take it up there.  Dismas |(talk) 02:59, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Alexandra Powers Reference is messed up
Could someone please fix Alexandra's reference on her page? I added a reference and it is messed up Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 03:04, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅ And again, if you're posting a request here for several people to see, you don't need to post the very same request at my talk page.  Dismas |(talk) 03:22, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Karis_Paige_Bryant
Could someone clean up an article I started about Charmed actress Karis_Paige_Bryant? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neptunekh2 (talk • contribs) 03:45, 30 May 2011(UTC)
 * I think that is the second of your new articles that has been speedily deleted today. It might be a good idea to write draft articles in a user sandbox until they are ready to publish. —teb728 t c 03:57, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

I'm requesting the article about Karis Paige Bryant be undeleted. How can I request the article be undeleted? Neptunekh2 (talk) 04:04, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * See Requests for undeletion. Dismas |(talk) 04:07, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Update: the request for undeletion was declined as a non-notable subject, and the title was salted. —teb728 t c 11:32, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Possessive apostrophe at the end of sentence
I am currently reviewing "Phidippus clarus". This article includes the sentence "Like other jumping spiders, it has vision more acute than a cat's and 10 times more acute than a dragonfly's." Is the grammar used appropriately? Could it be improved? Axl ¤  [Talk]  09:18, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I think this should be on the reference desk (language) or the talk page. Kittybrewster  &#9742;  09:53, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks. Axl  ¤  [Talk]  09:55, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Images in userspace
Per NFCC. Why?  Rcsprinter  (talk)  10:21, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Because they are copyrighted so we just cant use them everywhere, when we use them in an article we use a non-free-use rationale we have to make a case why the copyrighted images should be used. The use in articles is restricted so we only use copyrighted images under certain conditions. On user pages and other non-article pages none of those conditions would every be satisfied because they would be used for decoration, hence the ban. MilborneOne (talk) 10:38, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Try keying "userspace" into the "Search the archives" at Wikipedia talk:Non-free content, and you will find a selection of past discussions. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:41, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I would explain it as a compromise between the point of view that a free encyclopdia should have no non-free content and the point of view that a quality encyclopedia needs non-free content. The compromise is that non-free content is permitted when the encyclopedia actually needs it (and it is permitted under fair use law). The encyclopedia doesn't need it except in articles. —teb728 t c 11:20, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Feedback - quote marks
Your articles frequently use punctuation marks outside quote marks. Punctuation marks always belong inside the quote marks, in English version anyway. Modern technology has diminished the use of proper language but if you have a choice to get it wrong or get it right, you should get it right. kcd1976 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.217.195.44 (talk) 10:40, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * See the Wikipedia style guide - "On Wikipedia, place all punctuation marks inside the quotation marks if they are part of the quoted material and outside if they are not". You are welcome to propose a change to the style guide, by posting at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style, but I am sure the point has been discussed extensively over the years. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:45, 30 May 2011 (UTC)


 * By the way, there is also a distinct difference in the punctuation in British and American English. - 194.60.106.38 (talk) 11:35, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * No, they do not "belong inside". They belong outside. For reasons I cannot fathom, some Americans decided to adopt a silly rule. WP has chosen a more reasonable rule.-- SPhilbrick  T  12:20, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * It has to do with the practicalities of typesetting with actual type (as opposed to Linotype, etc.) Punctuation inside quotes was a little less likely to break off; or so I've been told. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  15:50, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I've found that story in a comment on The Straight Dope too, but again with no references. It strikes me as complete nonsense: what is it about a full stop or comma that's going to break off, that isn't going to happen to the equally small quote mark? And what about the hugely more numerous cases when punctuation isn't associated with quote marks? Without a strong reference I have no hesitation in putting that story in the reject bin. --ColinFine (talk) 22:13, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

List_of_The_Mummy_characters
The article List_of_The_Mummy_characters with The_Scorpion_King_2:_Rise_of_a_Warrior characters needs to be expanded. Can someone please do that? Thanks! Neptunekh2 (talk) 11:37, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Please see the reply where you asked that question before. —teb728 t c 12:46, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Shifting existing article to create disambiguation page?
I have created a Wikipedia entry for "Drew Berry (animator)". A page for "Drew Berry" (a journalist) already exists. I think it would be appropriate for the page "Drew Berry" to become a disambiguation page rather than belonging to the journalist, especially as the first sentence of "Drew Berry" (the journalist) begins "Drew Berry is an Emmy Award-winning...", which is also true of "Drew Berry (animator)" who also has an Emmy- so may be confusing for people searching for the animator rather than the journalist.

What I'm hoping to do is to create
 * Drew Berry                  <-disambiguation page.
 * Drew Berry (animator)
 * Drew Berry (journalist)

My questions are:
 * is it ok to shift the content as it stands from the current "Drew Berry" to a new page, "Drew Berry (journalist)" so "Drew Berry" can then be written as a disambiguation page?
 * if I do this, is there a way to locate the current wikipedia links to "Drew Berry" and redirect them to "Drew Berry (journalist)"? I am not intending to cause problems for Drew Berry (journalist); I just think there will be people searching for "Drew Berry (animator)" who could be confused between the two if they land on the journalist's page.

Thanks Vanessa.

Vsolomon (talk) 11:53, 30 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Normally we don't create a disambiguation page for two articles. One article has a hatnote directing people to the other article.  I have added a hat note on Drew Berry telling people if they are looking for the animator to go to Drew Berry (animator).  Just as a side note the Drew Berry article need to be worked on.  GB fan (talk) 12:09, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I added a hatnote, mutatis mutandes, to Drew Berry (animator)-- SPhilbrick  T  12:15, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * mutatis mutandis, actually. Sorry, was a Latin scholar. – ukexpat (talk) 19:36, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

RC in one category but not another one
Is there a tool which displays related changes of articles which belong to one category but not another one? Thanks in advance --151.75.64.82 (talk) 12:36, 30 May 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't think you could do it in a single step, but you could use catscan to get a list of articles, create a page with links to them, and use 'related changes' for that - or use a watchlist; but you'd need to get a user account.  Chzz  ► 17:34, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! Well, I may do it in a single step by selecting pages which were changed after the last time I checked (if you open the tool you will see parameter "Last change" --151.75.16.133 (talk) 17:02, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Robotics?
is robotics a part of electronics and telecommunications???? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.237.140.27 (talk) 14:00, 30 May 2011 (UTC)


 * I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 3.5 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 14:08, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

How can i turn the WIKIPEDIA background color into black?
turning background color into black makes it easier to read for many people.

also, computers save energy by displaying black background tone rather than white, if wikipedia did this, they would help the world save a lot of energy.

one example for inspiration: blackle.com

A Black Google Would Save 750 Megawatt-hours a Year. what about wiki???

thank you very much — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.113.62.191 (talk) 14:42, 30 May 2011 (UTC)


 * A black background is very hard for most of us to read, and would not be appropriate for editing at all. Bielle (talk) 14:56, 30 May 2011 (UTC)


 * If you create an account and log in then you can select "Use a black background with green text on the Monobook skin" at Special:Preferences. It may give unfortunate colors for some things. The power reduction is generally for CRT monitors which are less used today. LCD monitors often use more power when black. See http://techlogg.com/2010/05/black-vs-white-screen-power-consumption-24-more-monitors-tested/17. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:15, 30 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Many browsers allow you to blackify yourself. For example, in Firefox, go to tools → options → content tab → colors → change the background to black and the text to whatever you'd like and then untick the option for "Allow pages to choose their own colors, instead of my selection above."--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:50, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

How to delete user subpage
Hi,

Somebody created User_talk:Tommyjb/Sandbox, and I want to delete this. Could somebody tell me how? Thanks. — Tommyjb  Talk!  (15:26, 30 May 2011)
 * just add db-userreq to the page. GB fan (talk) 15:30, 30 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you. — Tommyjb   Talk!  (15:32, 30 May 2011)

Woodstock Festival 1969
I have some photos from the Festival that I can't recognize. One is of a violinist with what looks like a red or blond afro, a bass player with shoulder length dark afro and lead guitar, bald, with some beard. I've been told it is the Flock, but as far as I remember, Flock did not appear there. Any other ideas or memories wiould be appreciated. Thanks, Bobby T — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.114.44.160 (talk) 15:38, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Symbol_move_vote.svg Have you tried the section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia.  For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: [ click here] . I hope this helps.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:31, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * List of performances and events at Woodstock Festival has not only the bands but the playlists and approximate times. No Flock. But the Reference Desk would be better at tracking down who it might be. Rmhermen (talk) 02:46, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Getting the runaround in Wikipedia
I thought this was solved long time ago. I am using an shared broadband connection and apparently someone under this single IP address is using Tor sometimes. I am not using Tor or any other anonymising service. I explained this to a friendly admin, and he set up an exemption from IP blocking for my account some time ago. And it worked fine then. (For me at en.wikipedia and de.wikipedia!)

But now suddenly I am blocked again because of Tor activity on the IP address I am using. This is annoying already, but it got totally mega annoying when I - again - followed all the good and nice explanations and recommendations that followed, cursing silently. I don't like being sent from pillar to post.

"You have been blocked because it has been detected that you are using Tor ... bla bla ... you need to request an account ..." - what? I have an account and I am logged in! - "... and then request block exemption." - I did that long time ago, see my talk page.

Well. So I went to IP_block_exemption. Much text to read, then the useful hint: "A user affected by an IP block that is unrelated to their editing and that prevents them editing with a logged-in account. - How to request.": APPEAL. "7. I want to edit Wikipedia, but I keep getting blocked because of others on the same network as me!" - not quite helpful - "Requesting to be unblocked" - okay. "Instructions for requesting an unblock will be placed on your talk page or in the block explanation." - no it wasn't or it was too well hidden for me to see it. - "The preferred way to appeal a block is to use the template, but you can also contact the blocking administrator or appeal by email." - okay let's see the unblock template - "The following should be placed on your talk page:" - well I would like to, but when trying to edit my own talk page it says: "You have been blocked because it has been detected that you are using Tor ..." - back to the beginning!

Well, I still might try to contact an administrator. Maybe the friendly one who created the block exemption before. But guess what - "You have been blocked because it has been detected that you are using Tor ..." - arghh!

Other ways to get help, the IRC chat maybe? No of course not. "Joining chat room... You are banned from this server - Due to abuse we currently accept tor connections via our tor-sasl service only ..." - sigh. This "tor-sasl" service is some service within tor, but since I am not using tor (and neither have a registered account at freenode) I can not use that. The webchat? - "Your reported IP is banned".

This is so frustrating. All that fuss just because I wanted to correct a tiny error on a Wikipedia page.

I wish I knew a solution for these problems. Do I actually need to appeal the block again, or is it some kind of error in MediaWiki? Should I send an Email as described in Guide_to_appealing_blocks (one further page about the same topic), or try using the template?

[PS: And how was I able to post here? Luckily I could set up an alternative internet connection using my mobile phone as a modem. It's kind of slow and expensive, but at least this IP address is not blocked.] --W-sky (talk) 16:27, 30 May 2011 (UTC)


 * What is the IP that is being blocked? Mjroots (talk) 16:31, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

how to locate an image in wiki commons
just a few hours ago I successfully (I thought) entered an image in Wiki Commons (I think). It was a random packing of 1000 triangles in a rectangle. Now I wanted to see if it is still there. It does not show up in user's (mine) contributions, and it does not show up when I place a few key words in SEARCH. I am puzzled... Lsalgo (talk) 17:18, 30 May 2011 (UTC)


 * You have to be at Commons to see contributions there: commons:Special:Contributions/Lsalgo. You could also click "Global contributions" at the bottom of Special:Contributions/Lsalgo. It takes some time (maybe a day) for the search function to index edits, so you cannot search it yet. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:37, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

What counts as an edit?
It seems I can't vote for the picture of the year because I don't have 200+ edits, I only have 80. This doesn't tally with what I see when I look at "my contributions". Which edits count? Card Zero (talk) 17:50, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I think you are misreading what it says at, it doesn't say you only have 80 edits it says you have 80 edits prior to 1 January 2011. According to this you have 260 edits but looking at your contributions it looks like a majority of those were made after 1 January 2011.  GB fan (talk) 17:58, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh OK, so it was just my reading comprehension failure. Thanks. Card Zero  (talk) 18:15, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Authorization to upload pictures
I am the author of the entry: Koren Picture Bible, 1692-1696, which I entered at least a year ago. I now wish to upload illustrations, but find I am not "authorized." I did reregister myself in April 2011, at which time I found that I could not get logged in. Please authorize me to upload illustrations, for which I have permission from the publisher.

Diannefarrell (talk) 18:31, 30 May 2011 (UTC)


 * You are not yet autoconfirmed (see WP:AUTOCONFIRM). You must be autoconfirmed in order to be able to upload files. More specifically it means, your account must be more than four days old and have made at least 10 edits. Once you meet these requirements, you can upload the files. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 18:41, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * If the images you want to upload are free images, you can upload them right now on commons:Special:UploadWizard. Log in with the same username and password you log in with here and upload them.  GB fan (talk) 18:45, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Can you give us a bit more information about the illustrations you want to upload? What do they show and who created them? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 18:53, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

British war medal question (copied from article space)
can anyone help with information of//1914/15 star british war medal &victory medal to pte. f.airton. pietersburg commando south africa forces — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexander1949 (talk • contribs)
 * [[Image:Symbol move vote.svg|20px]] This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try  for an article related to the topic you want to know more about.  I hope this helps.  C T J F 8 3  20:51, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Photos
Hello, I found a picture on Facebook that i think will suite just perfectly with an article. Does Wikipedia allow Facebook photos to be used? Thanks!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dom497 (talk • contribs) 20:16, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * It depends on the licensing given on the original source of the picture, the licensing given on the facebook page for the picture and what article the picture will be used on. If the picture is of a living person, then the picture must be released under a compatible free license.  If the image is of a dead person or an object it might be appropriate if there is no free image that could be used in its place.  We would need more info to give a definitive answer.  GB fan (talk) 20:47, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Clicking On Image Jumps To Image Only.Siouxdax (talk) 21:07, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
GB fan (talk) 21:41, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

PLEASE NOTE: I hope this is not considered "bumping", as I never really got a response to this that solved the matter.

I recently made some changes to my preferences and have discovered that when I click on a picture it no longer goes to the page containing the picture and its related information. Now it jumps to a page simply displaying the picture alone. I've reset my preferences, but clicking on pictures still exhibits this behavior. How can I correct this so that I can see the details page? Siouxdax (talk) 11:03, 26 May 2011 (UTC) I don't know a preference which would do this. What happens if you click the example image to the right? What is the url in your browser? For me it is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Example.jpg. If I then click on the image on that page, I go to http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a9/Example.jpg which displays the image alone. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:41, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

When I clicked on the picture you provided, it went to the page showing the details about the image, but a few seconds later it jumped to a page showing only the picture. Prior to this issue I did make some changes to my preferences, but I can't find anything related to that. Anyone else have any input on this? Siouxdax (talk) 17:10, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

NOTE: A picture was posted by PrimeHunter as an example,

Again, any input on this is much appreciated. I really want things back to "normal". Siouxdax (talk) 21:07, 30 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Example.jpg I see you copied the discussion at Help desk/Archives/2011 May 26. You didn't answer what the url was for you. The url is the web address usually starting http:// you should see in the browser address bar when you view a page. Does the same happen if you are logged out? This would indicate it's unrelated to your Wikipedia preferences. I wonder whether a problem with your mouse or software can cause your browser to think you have clicked twice when you click once. Have you seen signs of this in other situations? Can you try another browser? PrimeHunter (talk) 21:48, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

My apologies for my lack of feedback. The URL is http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a9/Example.jpg and it happened regardless of whether or not I was logged in. Siouxdax (talk) 08:09, 31 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks. The URL http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a9/Example.jpg is the original 275x297 image and the url shouldn't be anywhere in the source of this page (except where we mention in it our posts). The image on this page is a reduced 200x216 version stored at http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a9/Example.jpg/200px-Example.jpg. Which browser do you have? Try to clear your entire cache. Can you see the url the image here should link to without clicking to go there, for example by right-clicking on the image and choose copy url? If you click the image and get to http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a9/Example.jpg then does the browser back button go to the image page or this help desk? What happens if you click http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Example.jpg which is the url for the image page? PrimeHunter (talk) 12:28, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

CAUSE FOUND! ISSUE RESOLVED! It turns out that when on another website I had the same behavior when clicking an image. I figured it had to be my browser, maybe an add-on, but it turned out to be a Greasemonkey script called "Just Show Image 2". Its purpose? To do what it did. Whew. Well, at least it did exactly what it said on the tin. PrimeHunter, thank you so very much for your effort and guidance. It's very much appreciated. 68.0.65.250 (talk) 21:34, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Cynthia Townley
How do I find out who the Administrator is who deleted my page setup? I would like my page Cynthia Townley undeleted. What is the process for that and who would I speak to? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cynthia Townley (talk • contribs) 21:53, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * WP:RFUD, although it is highly unlikely it will be undeleted as it appears to be a WP:COI, plus a non-notable person and unsourced C T J F 8 3  22:01, 30 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Your account has no deleted edits and there has never been an article at Cynthia Townley. As said at New contributors' help page/questions, you created a user page at User:Cynthia Townley. It would be unsuited as an article. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:42, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Looks like that content may violate WP:UP at any rate. It should be re-written to eliminate the self-promotion.    ArcAngel    (talk) ) 22:54, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Film References
Ygrec23 (talk) 23:01, 30 May 2011 (UTC) I made a very minor revision to the article on "Recuerdos de la Alhambra" (a famous guitar composition by Francisco Tàrrega) adding a reference to the soundtrack of René Clément's Forbidden Games (as played by Narciso Yepes). There are Wikipedia articles on all of René Clément, Forbidden Games and Narciso Yepes. The links to René Clément and Narciso Yepes worked fine. But the link to Forbidden Games simply won't turn blue. I've made extra sure that the formatting of the reference is exactly like all other movie name formatting and that the title is exactly the same as the title of the Wikipedia article. I've been over it twenty times and though I must have made some mistake I can't for the life of me figure out what correction to make. Help would be appreciated. Here it is:

René Clément's Forbidden Games (as played by Narciso Yepes),

Ygrec23 (talk) 23:01, 30 May 2011 (UTC)


 * The article name is Forbidden Games and should be linked like that and not Forbidden Games (film). The "(film)" part in some article names is only there to disambiguate it from other articles with a similar name. For example, The Killing Fields is about the actual sites in Cambodia, so the film article is called The Killing Fields (film). PrimeHunter (talk) 23:11, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Contribution not showing up.
I edited the page Damascus, and also justified my edit with a contribution on the discussion page. I went back to the discussion page to see if anyone had responded, but then my contribution did not appear. I looked at the edit history and it read to me like it should appear, as I only edited once and no one edited after me. When I logged in, then what I wrote did appear. When I logged out again, it disappeared once more. What could cause this? Does the contribution on the talk page appear to everyone else? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atethnekos (talk • contribs) 23:28, 30 May 2011 (UTC)


 * The edit appears for me. Perhaps you have to bypass your browser cache in order for the edit to appear for you. Does that help? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 23:34, 30 May 2011 (UTC)


 * That did it! Thanks a lot! --Atethnekos (talk) 23:42, 30 May 2011 (UTC)