Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2011 May 31

= May 31 =

Image help
Please delete this image: File:TheTrainEnthusiast.jpg. Somebody (probably one of my grandkids) tampered with it on my computer, and since I've fixed it I need to reupload it. TheTrainEnthusiast (talk) 00:50, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Are you aware you can upload a new version over the old one, much as you can edit an article? Intelligent  sium  01:07, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I tried it, but it didn't work. TheTrainEnthusiast (talk) 01:58, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I changed my mind, I don't want a photo of me on Wikipedia. Can someone delete it? TheTrainEnthusiast (talk) 03:05, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * You can tag the file page with -- John of Reading (talk) 07:02, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

How do I copy images from Wikipedia in other languages or alphabets into English Wikipedia?
I am trying to add more images to the Palestine Railways article. The Hebrew counterpart of the article has several photographs that I would like to use. I found the image file names, copied and pasted them into the English article but all I got was a redlink. I searched Wikimedia for the file names but they didn't appear. I've downloaded the images and I could upload them to Wikimedia, but I don't read Hebrew so I can't read which copyright they are under. How can I add these images to the article? The photographs are: I've had similar problems when finding photos. For example, Ukranian Wikipedia has a photo of the front of Ramses railway station in Cairo but my attempt to copy it into Wikipedia's English Egyptian National Railways and Ramses Station articles achieved only a redlink:
 * http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A7%D7%95%D7%91%D7%A5:PalestineRailwaysNG1946ca1.jpg
 * http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A7%D7%95%D7%91%D7%A5:Second_High_Commisssioner_to_Palestine_Train.jpg
 * http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A7%D7%95%D7%91%D7%A5:HaifaEastYard19461.jpg
 * http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A7%D7%95%D7%91%D7%A5:YarmukBridge19461.jpg
 * http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A7%D7%95%D7%91%D7%A5:Jaffa-JerLineSubotage1.jpg
 * http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A7%D7%95%D7%91%D7%A5:PikiWiki_Israel_1205_On_the_way_to_Jerusalem_%D7%91%D7%A0%D7%A1%D7%99%D7%A2%D7%94_%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%A9%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%9D.jpg
 * http://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:%D0%A6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%BE%D1%84%D1%96%D1%81_%D0%84%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%81%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%85_%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%86%D1%96%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%85_%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%96%D0%B7%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D1%8C_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%89%D1%96_%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B7%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B0_%D0%B2_%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%97%D1%80%D1%96.jpg

Thanks. Motacilla (talk) 02:32, 31 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi.
 * File:PalestineRailwaysNG1946ca1.jpg (for example) is stored on hewiki; so here, on enwiki, it's a red link. If I put he:File:PalestineRailwaysNG1946ca1.jpg it works - he:File:PalestineRailwaysNG1946ca1.jpg. Therefore, it can only be used on hewiki.
 * (Incidentally, it doesn't matter if I put "File:" (in English) or "קובץ:" (the Hebrew for 'file') - he:קובץ:PalestineRailwaysNG1946ca1.jpg works just the same, he:קובץ:PalestineRailwaysNG1946ca1.jpg)
 * To use it on enwiki, it would have to be uploaded to either Commons (probably best), or enwiki.
 * If a file is on Commons, it can be used on any of the Wikimedia sister projects - that is, it could be used on English Wikipedia, German Wikipedia, Hebrew Wikipedia, Wikibooks, Wikinews, etc. etc.
 * If a file is uploaded to a 'local wiki' (such as enwiki or hewiki) it can only be used on that one.
 * The syntax, in either case, is identical. For example, here, I've put a picture of a horsie. That file is actually stored on Commons. If you go to it from 'here' on English Wikipedia - ie File:Biandintz eta zaldiak - modified2.jpg - you'll notice it says, "This is a file from the Wikimedia Commons. Information from its description page there is shown below. " - and if you follow the link, you get to the real page, Commons:File:Biandintz eta zaldiak - modified2.jpg.
 * So - to cut to the chase - if you want to use those pics, you probably should download them (to your own computer), and then upload them to Commons, yourself. As long as the licences are OK, and you say where it comes from, that'll be fine.
 * I hope that makes sense.
 * And of course, always - if you need more help, just ask.  Chzz  ► 03:06, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * There are also tools that will pull it from any given language's Wikipedia to Commons and I think there was one where you can pull from one language's project to another. I need to double check what those are and if they are still functioning. Anyone else know these off the top of their head?Cptnono (talk) 03:14, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * http://toolserver.org/~magnus/commonshelper.php - see Moving files to the Commons.  Chzz  ► 03:20, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Does Google Translate give you enough clues to work out the license? If not, you could post at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Israel for help. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:00, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Compact TOC for glossary etc.
Hi. I seem to remember seeing somewhere a compact TOC for articles like glossaries whose sections are "A", "B", "C" etc. I think it may have been arranged horizontally, perhaps something like this:


 * A — B — C — D — etc.

Does anyone recognise this and know how to create it? 86.179.112.237 (talk) 02:39, 31 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Template:Compact TOC  Chzz  ► 02:49, 31 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks! I see there is a whole family of "compact TOC" tenmplates, so I will experiment! 86.179.112.237 (talk) 02:53, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Who's watching me?
I just found out that my user page is on 75 editors watchlists. Is there any way of finding out who is watching me? Dismas |(talk) 05:46, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * No. Prodego  talk  05:50, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Dismas |(talk) 06:59, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Introduction about the Article on " India Gate" is wrong.
Hi,

the introduction of the Article on "India Gate" seems to be wrong. Please rectify it.

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.99.200.14 (talk) 06:18, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * It was the victim of vandalism, which I reverted. Thanks for pointing this out. —teb728 t c 06:51, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Wikilinking to a specific citation needed tag in an article
I whave begun drafting a new cleanup template in my userspace at User:Toshio Yamaguchi/Template:Refnumimprove. Is it possible in the place where it says 1, 2, 3, 4 have a sequence of numbers up to the number of citation needed tags in the article? Furthermore is it possible to link each number to the corresponding citation needed tag?

In order to better explain what I mean, lets consider the following example:

Suppose we have an article containing four citation needed tags. I want to make the template, such that the list of numbers (like 1, 2, 3, 4) is automatically generated corresponding to the total number of citation needed tags in the article. Then, when I would for example click on 3, it would automatically take me to the third citation needed tag in the article (in the same way that one is taken to the third reference, when one clicks on the footnote numbered 3).

Is this possible? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 09:22, 31 May 2011 (UTC)


 * I will try to create a second template that creates a list of the citation needed tags in the article and transcludes them into the first template. I am not yet even sure if this is possible at all. I think I will have to do some research. :) Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 14:28, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

I want to create a second template at User:Toshio Yamaguchi/Template:Cnlist that would be transcluded into User:Toshio Yamaguchi/Template:Refnumimprove and display links to the citation needed tags numbered from 1 to n in a vertical row (maybe with a parameter to break the row after ? entries). Is that possible? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 14:47, 31 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Hmm. I don't think this is possible. The template doesn't currently put out an anchor that your template could jump to; and I don't see how it could be modified to put out different anchors each time it is used on a page, which is what you'd need. As you point out, the /  which will format like this:
 * NAME was one of five founders... [1] The footnote will appear at the bottom of the article and will look like this:
 * The Los Angeles Times articles here look promising, though they are unfortunately behind a pay wall.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:05, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
 * According to this Peter Marsoobian developed IHOP’s proprietary pancake batter. I’m not sure that’s the same as being a founder. —teb728 t c 00:50, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * According to this Peter Marsoobian developed IHOP’s proprietary pancake batter. I’m not sure that’s the same as being a founder. —teb728 t c 00:50, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

When is a DAB not a DAB? Russian Republic
I have edited WP for a while but had quite a wikibreak and can't remember where to ask. A page I found at random, Russian Republic, seems to me little more than what should be a DAB (Disambiguation Page). Is there a page where I should submit for a request for DAB? Or should I just mark it DAB anyway? Since it seems to me that anyone likely to search for Russian Republic does not want to know about the short-lived etc. but about one of the topics under it, i.e. it is in essence a DAB.

Thanks for being in the wrong place, I am just getting on my feet again. Si Trew (talk) 23:03, 31 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, we probably should have an article about this government, no matter how short-lived it was. Were there other things that might have gone under that name?  If so, then you might consider WP:DABCONCEPT, that is, writing an article that summarizes the various republics of Russia.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 17:27, 2 June 2011 (UTC)