Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2011 November 11

= November 11 =

page created redirected to another title, why?
Why was the page with a specific title redirected to another title? And how can I change that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Okhereitgoes (talk • contribs) 00:24, 11 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Which page(s) are you talking about? This is only your second edit to Wikipedia and so your contribution history gives me no clues here. BencherliteTalk 00:35, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
 * If you are asking about Thomas (Tomek) S.S. Lamprecht and Tomasz Lamprecht, the former title was moved to the former latter, leaving a redirect at the former title so that anyone using the former title can find the article. —teb728 t c 01:21, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I replaced a "former" by "latter" in the above post to avoid confusion. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:27, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
 * If the OP was asking why the article was moved in the first place, it is because on Wikipedia the article title of a bio is name the subject is most commonly by. The full name/birth name if different and any aliases are given in the text. But having looked at the article, I am beginning to think it should have been moved instead to Thomas Lamprecht. (Thanks for fixing my typo.) —teb728 t c 03:49, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Emmerdale
Just recently, when I change the date in the Emmerdale template, the documentation changes too, without me doing snything to it. Thee seem to be kind of bug in the template. Can someone please help me fix that bug? Wingard (talk) 00:41, 11 November 2011 (UTC)


 * I assume you mean Emmerdale episodes and Template:Emmerdale episodes/doc? The doc page uses FULLDATE with an unsupported parameter ("type=month=[etc]"). FULLDATE will always show you the current date without requiring any updating.  If you want this, fine, but check the documentation for FULLDATE to get the parameter(s) you want to use.  If you don't always want the doc page to show the current date, as opposed to e.g. the date you last updated it, remove FULLDATE. BencherliteTalk 01:07, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Harry Potter/Christopher Columbus
Why is nothing said about why Columbus did not direct any but two of the Harry Potter films and stayed involved in only three but provides the commentary for all of them? Was he fired, not asked to direct them, what is the true story? How do I find an answer to this question? VAC — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.79.137.89 (talk) 01:17, 11 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Harry Potter (film series) says: he did not want to return for the third film as he claimed he was "burned out".:
 * Symbol_move_vote.svg Have you tried the section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia.  For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: [ click here] . I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:44, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia article on Facebook
I know that I should ask Facebook this question, but as you probably know it is almost impossible to get in touch with the Facebook administration.

The article Milosevic on Trial can also be read on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Milosevic-on-Trial/113947928615325. But the article Jersild Live can not be read on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Jersild-Live/106455062715218. Does somebody know, how I get the Jersild Live article to show on Facebook?

PS: By the way, the title of the two articles Milosevic on Trial and Jersild Live are not written in italics as the should be. I don't know how to change this. --JAL78 (talk) 02:32, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I fixed the italic title issue on the articles. GB fan 02:38, 11 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Template:HD/facebook has a link to http://www.facebook.com/help/?topic=profileconnections. I'm not on Facebook and don't know how they operate but if a Facebook user adds a Wikipedia article title to their profile (timeline) then perhaps Facebook will copy the article or part of it at some time. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:20, 11 November 2011 (UTC)


 * [[Image:Symbol move vote.svg|20px]] Facebook community pages may incorporate content from Wikipedia— such use complies with Wikipedia policies on reuse of content. We at Wikipedia have no control over how the content is included nor can we help to remove it. Facebook does have a topic on Community pages and profile connections on their Help Center. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 11:30, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Recreation?
I ran across an entry at WP:RM that jogged my memory. Could an admin take a look at the deleted article Writing Process Phase 3: Revise, Proofread, Evaluate and judge whether the new article Writing process phase:Revise, Proofread,Evaluate is sufficiently similar to merit a G4 speedy deletion. Deor (talk) 14:07, 11 November 2011 (UTC)


 * It's clearly the same subject, but the bulk of the article appears to be original text. The current version also uses the same source as the deleted version, though this time it's the 2012 edition rather than the 2010. Moreover, there's nothing in the new version that addresses the concerns raised at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Writing Process Phase 3: Revise, Proofread, Evaluate. I'll leave this for another admin to doublecheck, but I believe a G4 deletion is warranted. UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 15:49, 11 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Go easy on this one, though - the author of the new version may be writing this article as a school assignment, given their username. Stranger still, we have the now blocked User:Mimibeo who was working on several variations of this same article. Each was deleted, mostly because of copyvio using a website as the source. The kicker? The website, here, is comm212chapter7.blogspot.com/. Not sure what to make of this. UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 15:54, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem. If no one wants to speedy it, I'll take it to AfD, as it clearly runs afoul of WP:NOTHOW, as the previous articles did. Deor (talk) 15:59, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
 * It's been G4'd – ukexpat (talk) 20:02, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Maths rating
What is the correct procedure to add to a new article? Can I simply go ahead and add it? If so, how do I know what the correct choice for the 'Priority' parameter is? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 14:18, 11 November 2011 (UTC)


 * If you want to add a article to another article, you must either do this (example: Maths rating) or you can just type in Maths rating to where ever you want to add the article to. CPGirlAJ (talk) 18:50, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Is there enough detail at WikiProject Mathematics/Wikipedia 1.0 to answer your question? -- John of Reading (talk) 19:03, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Strange Redirect
I was doing a little bit on work of Air Bud (series) and I noticed a strange redirect for the film Treasure Buddies. When you click on the link within the Air Bud (series) article, it takes you back to the Air Bud (series) article. Likewise, if you search "Treasure Buddies" in Wikipedia, it takes you to the Air Bud (series) article. It doesn't appear to be a normal redirect, and I can't quite figure out what's going on. The link for Treasure Buddies should be a red link (because there is not a page for this article). If someone wants to create a page for Treasure Buddies, they can't. Can you point me in the right direction? Thanks. --TravisBernard (talk) 17:30, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
 * "Treasure Buddies" is a redirect to the specific section entitled Air Buddies films within the article "Air Bud (series)". You can see that here.
 * You can get to that link by going to Treasure Buddies (which takes you to a part of the "Air Bud (series)" article) and then moving to the top of the page, and clicking the link in the small message underneath the page name, which says "( Redirected from Treasure Buddies)". 
 * It was redirected as a result of this discussion.
 * Redirects are just pages with a single line; they can be changed into articles by editing them. See also Help:Redirect.
 * As to whether it should be changed, in that specific case, I have no idea.  Chzz  ► 18:19, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. --TravisBernard (talk) 19:26, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Lists of blues artists by decade
Hello,

Earlier I have found a site with a List of Blues Artists by Decade, but not anymore.

What shall I look for?

Best Regards

Jan-Erik Olsson — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.14.70.168 (talk) 17:35, 11 November 2011 (UTC)


 * The article List of blues musicians is partially split into decades, and the tables may be sorted by birth/death-year. Does that help?  Chzz  ► 18:10, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Archive search and indexing
I did a search of the WP:BLPN archive using the term "haskell", and even though there is an article in the archive, the search didn't find it. From looking at a previous discussion on this issue, it may be that the archive is too recent and hasn't been indexed yet. Assuming that's true, is there a way to force indexing? Is there a way to find out how often indexing is set to occur? I'd like to understand this better.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:36, 11 November 2011 (UTC)


 * There's some info on Help:Searching. I don't think there is a way to force it; for that, you may be better asking at WP:VPT.  Chzz  ► 18:02, 11 November 2011 (UTC)


 * The Haskell section was archived 11 hours before your post. That is usually too recent for indexing. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:38, 11 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks to both of you.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:58, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Infoboxes
How do you create an infobox for a article? When I edit articles there is a table at the beginning of the page that gives you information about the person or article. It usually says infobox person, so I am wondering how you make those infoboxes? — Preceding unsigned comment added by CPGirlAJ (talk • contribs) 18:46, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Have you seen Help:Infobox? That page has sections on using and designing infoboxes. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:05, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

How do you add a ciatacon needed?
I do not know how to add a ciatacon needed to an article. I want to add a ciatacon needed to something qustuanbale but I do not know how. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darrman1 (talk • contribs) 19:21, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Edit the page, and put directly after the questionable statement - for example, putting;

The world is flat.

...will appear as...

The world is flat.

 Chzz  ► 19:25, 11 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Fact is redirect to citation needed as is cn. – ukexpat (talk) 19:56, 11 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Um, fact is for requesting a citation. For guidance on how to add a citation, see Referencing for beginners. —teb728 t c 01:40, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

2 issues - one request and one more bothersome issue
Hello, I just wanted to place a small request/suggestion, but in trying to do so, it became nearly impossible to find a simple 'contact wikipedia' via email section. The 'contact us' is not user friendly at all. I realize u probably get a lot of emails from idiots, but can't u plz just ignore those emails? Just dump them and respond to the more sensible ones while making wikipedia more easily contactable? I've been fondly using wikipedia for years. I love wikipedia. But i've only had the need to contact u one time before in order to report profanity abuse.

So, the original reason I wanted to contact wikipedia (though i know this is not the right category but is the only one i found after 10 minutes of clicking)....there is a 'rating' box at the bottom of the page, that's nice, but I don't really care what people think about wikipedia articles cuz i like almost every article i read. however, if there could be a place at the bottom for 'is there content that u would like to see added to this article?'...that would be wonderful :) specifically, there is an article on Tom Stidham, the 10th football coach for the University of Oklahoma. If, there was a requested info box at the bottom, I would have requested information (if available) about why Tom Stidham left OU to go to Marquette U. Job Offer, Controversy at OU, etc. I know it might be hard to get around to a lot of requests, but u could just do what u could when u could. thank you for your time :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hestiazfire (talk • contribs) 20:42, 11 November 2011 (UTC)


 * If you have suggested changes to an article, you can discuss them on the article's talk page, or (if you have reliable sources that can be given as references) you can edit the article yourself. As to your more general point about how to contact Wikipedia, the foot of each page has a link to Contact us. - David Biddulph (talk) 20:48, 11 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is entirely edited by volunteer editors, just like you, so it's hard to have a central point of contact. Instead, for issues concerning articles, we prefer to put the comments and replies on the wiki pages.
 * Suggestions regarding the article Thomas E. Stidham are best placed on Talk:Thomas E. Stidham. All articles have a 'talk' page, which is in a tab at the top.
 * The "Article Feedback Tool" is a new feature, and any suggestions like yours are welcome, on Wikipedia talk:Article Feedback Tool/Version 5.
 * In general, it's probably best to ask things here, rather than via email. The exception to that is, of course, private matters which are best kept off-wiki - and that's where the contact pages come in.
 * But, as you can see, you're likely to get answers right here quite quickly.  Chzz  ► 20:51, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Chzz, thank you very much. I actually learned something from your response, lol. For instance, I obviously saw the 'contact us' link but there were numerous redirects, ugh. You actually directed me to the links I needed to be seeking (since some of the links have similar substance) and there are many many many links on each wikipedia page. I appreciate your help VERY much and will start clicking soon and see if I find what I'm looking for ;) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hestiazfire (talk • contribs) 20:58, 11 November 2011 (UTC) Update: Chzz, so far so good. I was able to voice my suggestion on the rating box.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hestiazfire (talk • contribs) 21:19, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

Paypal donation link error
I tried to donate $20 and received the following error:

Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.

Return to Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. Error Message

The link you have used to enter the PayPal system contains an incorrectly formatted item amount.

At this time, we are unable to process your request. Please return to Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. and try another option. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.214.230.187 (talk) 20:51, 11 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment: I've cross-posted the above query on Meta:Talk:Fundraising_2011  Chzz  ► 21:01, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
 * THanks for the notes guys. We received a bunch of emails about this too and tracked down the 2 offending problems. 1 problem was fixed last night and we pulled down all of the offending forms for the 2nd problem so that it can be fixed Sunday morning and those forms won't go back up until it is and tested. If you have any other problems feel free to send us an email at donate@undefinedwikimedia.org or problemsdonating@undefinedwikimedia.org. Jalexander--WMF 03:09, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Cree Q5
There are now many places where you can buy a torch/flashlight referred to as "Cree Q5". When I purchased one recently, I expected it to have the brand name Cree on it. Turns out that Cree is a company that makes LEDs and Q5 is a particular category of LED (apparently approximately 107 lumens). And this is just one example. I have looked in vain for a Wikipedia page that describes this number, and what it means. Is it there but some place I haven't thought to look? How can I find such information, or determine that it doesn't exist?

50.0.128.237 (talk) 21:12, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
 * We have a page about Cree Inc..
 * If you look up Cree, then that article is about native Americans - but notice at the top it says ''For other uses, see Cree (disambiguation).
 * We don't have great detail about their products - possibly because there isn't enough info in independent reliable sources, or possibly because nobody has added info. You could add information about their specific products to the page, if you can find appropriate references.
 * But for your actual query, I'd suggest that the company website is probably a better bet than Wikipedia.  Chzz  ► 21:39, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
 * P.S. I've just created a redirect from Cree Q5 to the company article - at least that might help others who search for that term.  Chzz  ► 21:41, 11 November 2011 (UTC)


 * If your question is about lumens, does Lumen (unit) help? – ukexpat (talk) 21:42, 11 November 2011 (UTC)


 * If you want to learn more regardless of whether it's from Wikipedia articles:
 * Symbol move vote.svg Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:48, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Autobiography


I have added more information about myself and it has been saved on your website (Maxgta). How do I transfer the information to the main page about me--Srinivas, Bala K.76.212.4.85 (talk) 23:47, 11 November 2011 (UTC)


 * We are not connected to "Maxgta", if that was a website. You should not edit an article about yourself. Instead, suggest the changes you would like to be made to the article on the article's talk page, include references and wait for another uninvolved editor to do it for you. Please read the following policy pages regarding regarding this:


 * Conflict of interest
 * Autobiography


 * Take note of the suggested methods.--  Obsidi ♠ n   Soul   23:56, 11 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Beekay, In my opinion, little if any of the content from your user page, User:Maxgta, would be appropriate for your main-space bio, Bala K. Srinivas. In order to be eligible for inclusion in main-space, anything would have to be verifyable by references to published reliable sources. If you have such sources for anything you would like to add, suggest the content together with the sources at Talk:Bala K. Srinivas. —teb728 t c 01:30, 12 November 2011 (UTC)


 * "You should not edit an article about yourself." is not supported by the text of either Conflict of interest or Autobiography. Please try reading the policy pages before throwing them at newcomers. Weakopedia (talk) 08:33, 12 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Wow. Angry person. What part of "Creating an article about yourself is strongly discouraged. We have biographies here, not autobiographies." did you not understand? See WP:YOURSELF and apply your own advice.--  Obsidi ♠ n   Soul   12:28, 12 November 2011 (UTC)