Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2011 November 18

= November 18 =

How to quote an interview
Is there a specific template for quoting a dialogue, like an interview wherein the questions being asked need to be quoted word-for-word? Or should I just use "" and wing it?  City O f Silver  00:04, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * dialogue, perhaps? Seems to be more intended towards character dialogues than interviews, but if your dialogue is less than 10 lines, it could do. Otherwise blockquote seems like the way to go, I'm not aware of any other template. Oh, and you probably already know this, but beware fair use (e.g. a 400+ word Q&A would probably be inappropriate). I hope this helps, and happy editing! CharlieEchoTango (talk) 02:59, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Are the Wikipedians really serious about Userboxitis?
Are the Wikipedians really serious about Userboxitis? Or is this just a joke disease like "cooties"? Why is having Userboxitis a bad thing? Can it be completely cured, or are the victims forever obsessed with Userboxes, and there is no known cure for this disease? Do I have Userboxitis? I only have a few Userboxes on my Userpage, not like 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (one sextillion Userboxes). SuperSuperSmarty (talk) 01:24, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * No, Wikipedians are a diverse bunch but hardly any are serious about this sort of sillines. Jim.henderson (talk) 01:31, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * It's easier to look up stuff for Userboxes about yourself than to look up article references. Who has the time for the latter? It appears UB's have turned Wiki into a social media. WylieCoyote (talk) 21:35, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

meta/color ???
For background, please see Lord Fusituʻa/meta/color and User talk:TexasAndroid. I came across this while Short Pages patrolling. And deleted it. It's been protested and recreated. I'm 99% certain that, whatever the user is trying to do, it does not belong in article space like this. But are they trying to do something better done via a template, or is there actually some way to set meta attributes on pages, as s/he appears to be trying to do? - TexasAndroid (talk) 02:13, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Well one thing is for sure, even if the main space supported subpages (e.g. linked from the article using ), this specific one doesn't really make any sense as the Lord Fusituʻa article doesn't exist and the template is used on the constituency article. If anything it belongs to the template namespace, like all templates used in articles (including other /meta/color templates). The fact that it showed up on Special:ShortPages, and your answer is quite right on your talk page, is exactly why this sort of thing doesn't belong in the article space. Best, CharlieEchoTango (talk) 02:48, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

PETER SELLERS
Missing data: nowhere does it mention he was in the James Bond spoof "Casino Royale" (1967) with David Niven, Ursula Andress, Orson Welles and Woody Allen. He got the top billing on the DVD that I own. I enjoyed him in that part, among his many others and think it should at least be mentioned.

Thank you,

50.38.38.65 (talk) 02:49, 18 November 2011 (UTC)Rev. Ray Perryman
 * Not sure what article you're reading, its mentioned twice, Peter Sellers and Peter Sellers-- Jac 16888 Talk 02:54, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Turn off donation ads
Is there a way to turn off these damned donation ads? I only need to see them once not constantly!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by PumpkinSky (talk • contribs) 17 November 2011, 22:40 (EST)
 * The answer is above. Please remember to sign your posts. Cheers, CharlieEchoTango (talk) 03:48, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Where in prefs? Pumpkin Sky   talk  03:52, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * , last line of the first section. CharlieEchoTango (talk) 03:55, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you! It's really over done. Pumpkin Sky   talk  03:58, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia mailing address to include in my matching grant contribution
My company will match my donation but I need to enter your mailing address 76.254.44.77 (talk) 03:56, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your donation! CharlieEchoTango (talk) 04:00, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your donation! CharlieEchoTango (talk) 04:00, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

employment
Dear Wikipedia Staff,

I would like to find out how I may join Wikipedia in permanent employment please?

Regards SNGM — Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.53.59.35 (talk) 04:35, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Current job openings with the Wikimedia Foundation (the parent organization which includes Wikipedia) can be found at http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Job_openings . Good luck!  -- Jayron  32  04:40, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * What the questioner may not realize is that we "staff members" do not work for the foundation; we are all volunteers. —teb728 t c 05:23, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I was wondering what happened to my paycheck... like, all of them... -- Jayron  32  05:35, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * As usual, everything here is subject to editing by anyone else. I performed a content-fork on your paycheck, offloading the bulk of the material into my bar-tab. DMacks (talk) 10:42, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

thomas davidson
founder and chairman of the salvation army — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.119.172.141 (talk) 04:43, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid you are mistaken. William Booth was the founder of the Salvation Army, not Thomas Davidson.  -- Jayron  32  04:47, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * You might possibly have been looking for Randall Thomas Davidson, Archbishop of Canterbury from 1903 to 1928.  Chzz  ► 13:10, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Please edit something for me
I don't want to sign in, or create an account. I just use Wikipedia but don't want to sign-up, sign-on. . .or sign-in.

When I was reading about Zebra I read this under "STRIPES"

"Zebras are with white stripes . Half a coon is a coon! I hate zebras"

Please edit this for me. I would do it, but just don't want to sign-in, hope that doesn't make me a bad person? Maybe lazy LOL

THANKS. It's really not a nice thing to have on this site.


 * Seems like it was fixed in this edit. Note that you don't have to sign in to edit most articles on Wikipedia. Cheers, CharlieEchoTango (talk) 04:49, 18 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, it seems to have been fixed already. Thanks for pointing this out though. Typical vandalism, but reverted. You don't need to sign in to edit most articles, so you could have fixed it yourself - we always welcome assistance from anonymous contributors, especially when assisting with dealing with idiots like this vandal. Sadly, this seems to have taken an hour to spot, which isn't good - though it is probably an indication that the article isn't being looked at that much. We have 'bots' which are programmed to spot obvious vandalism, and I'm surprised this one wasn't detected. AndyTheGrump (talk) 05:04, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * When your name starts with "Z" you always end up at the back of the queue! Roger (talk) 11:12, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I 'warned' the vandal . (It probably won't do much good, but at least there's some record of it). I'm also trying to find out why auto-filter/bots missed it (1, 2)  Chzz  ► 12:29, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Small update: ClueBot NG usually picks up that type of vandalism, but the version prior to that was by ClueBot itself, because it removed some other vandalism. ClueBot NG won't revert to a version that was written by itself. Also, normally it would have been picked up by the "edit filter", but that skipped it because the article already contained the word "asses" (as in, donkeys) - and the filter is less strict when an article already contains words that might be considered profane. It might be that this is one of the few cases that automatic tools missed for valid reasons; still, the various tools are constantly being improved.  Chzz  ► 14:32, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Automatically generate list of all pages a user has edited and extract coords, if any
Hello, I have a somewhat strange and technical question. I'd like to be able to automatically (or semi-automatically) create a list of all the article pages I've ever edited and extract each page's coordinates (the coord template at least, and ideally coordinates in geoboxes), if a page has coordinates. The idea is to map the coordinates with an application like Google Maps. I tend to edit geographic articles and am curious to see the distribution over my years here. I'm also thinking of making a map like this, if it isn't too hard, for a friend who quit Wikipedia some time ago but had amassed at least 70,000 edits, a great many of which were geographic and focused on British Columbia. I was thinking it would be a nice "memorial" for his work--a way to say thanks for all that! Obviously I would get his permission and participation in gathering the list and coords--I assume I would need to. So my question is--is this possible? If so, ideas on how to do it? Would it be relatively easy or technically challenging? I have some background with geographic data manipulation, so given a list of coords I should be able to make a map. I just don't know how I'd generate such a list. I know there are lots of tools over at toolserver.org, but I haven't spent a lot of time over there. Clues? Thanks. (Just to cover my bases, I think I will also post this question at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geographical coordinates. My apologies for cross-posting--I suspect the number of active responders both here and there is rather small) Pfly (talk) 05:20, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * You've had one reply at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geographical coordinates so I suggest the conversation continues there. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:07, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

knowledge economy
what is knowledge economy and its impact on library? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.199.64.24 (talk) 07:07, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * [[Image:P art.png|20px]] This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Humanities reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try  for an article related to the topic you want to know more about.  I hope this helps. CharlieEchoTango (talk) 07:10, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

logo under non profitable education purpose
Actually i'm preparing a Wikipedia Page for my college and while using its logo under non profitable education purpose; Wikipedia is saying that only administrators have rights to do so. Can you please help me out for this... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hitesh.pendesk (talk • contribs) 07:11, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, I have tagged the page for deletion as a copyright violation, as its content is copy+pasted from various pages at the college's website. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not an extension of your college's website. Please work through the FAQ page for organisations which explains the issues more clearly than I can here. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:33, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, I have tagged the page for deletion as a copyright violation, as its content is copy+pasted from various pages at the college's website. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not an extension of your college's website. Please work through the FAQ page for organisations which explains the issues more clearly than I can here. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:33, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Unified account conflicts
What is the correct procedure for dealing with name conflicts in unified accounts? I am trying to make my account universal, but there appears be a user with my name on the Chinese wiki, at http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:LWG. Unfortunately I can't read Chinese, so I have no idea how to determine whether this account is an active contributor, or how to get it renamed/usurped if it isn't. -- LWG talk 11:13, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * That user does not appear to have any contributions so it should be usurpable for SUL. Most likely here (google translate may be of help understanding the text). Jarkeld (talk) 11:25, 18 November 2011 (UTC)


 * (e/c)Here are Google translations of the contributions and logs. They show only account creation in 2008. —teb728 t c 11:30, 18 November 2011 (UTC) The contributions and logs links I initially posted were broken; I have fixed them above. —teb728 t c 12:04, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Just as a tip: it helps if you append "?uselang=en" to the URL, because then at least the menu's are in English, e.g. http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:LWG?uselang=en  Chzz  ► 12:14, 18 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Ultimately, if you want to usurp the account at the Chinese wikipedia, you will have to request usurpation locally - at zh:维基百科:更改用户名/帐户易手 --Philosopher Let us reason together. 21:38, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Never mind - I see you've already put in the request there. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 21:39, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Editing photo captions
Am having trouble changing a word in a caption. The caption text shown as the original text is not the same as that appearing in Wiki, so can't locate the word I want to change! DouglasDugden (talk) 11:54, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Which picture on which page? Jarkeld (talk) 11:55, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

The 2nd pic down on right on page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuckmere_Haven Many thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dugden (talk • contribs) 12:25, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * On my browser the caption is the same as on the second line here. What do you see? —teb728 t c 12:32, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * As an example, I just added a full-stop to the second caption, and it worked; see  Chzz  ►  12:37, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you - and apologies from me! I clearly failed to see the word 'lifeboat' earlier! I have now changed it to 'coastguard'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dugden (talk • contribs) 12:45, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

President oath
If the reelected US President is unable for health reasons to take the oath on 1/20, can it be done in private? Can it be delayed? If delayed, can the required letter from the pres make the VP acting President? Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.177.52.243 (talk) 12:43, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Symbol move vote.svg Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. C T J F 8 3  12:50, 18 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Does Oath of office of the President of the United States help? – ukexpat (talk) 13:57, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

making donation
Your donation form does not work. I live in Panama and want to make a donation with Visa. I fill in my name, address. We have no zip codes in Panama. I believe the absence of entering a zip code, is preventing the process to proceed further without error message. If 'Panama' is entered, then a zip code box should be made to disappear, or there should be some indication that lack of zip code entry is not the culprit in preventing the process to proceed. You aren't alone. I attempt to send money through internet to other websites. At times my efforts are thwarted by a requirement that I fill in a zip code. The sites don't realize that many countries are without zip codes. There is no mail delivery in Panama, nor do the majority of homes have any address number posted! But we have the internet!

I enjoy Wikpedia. Keep up the good work. -Jimmy ThePanKid, Panama

190.218.0.122 (talk) 13:17, 18 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Because the fund-raising is operated by the Wikimedia Foundation, and this is just the Wikipedia help-desk, it would be better if you asked over at meta:Talk:Fundraising 2011. You could also email . You might get further answers right here (so - check back) but, I think you're more likely to get help with this at one of those other places.  Chzz  ► 13:26, 18 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Part of the answer here might be useful. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 15:00, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

how to see the old students names?
i want to know the students who completed their 10th grade in2010 batch? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 42.107.181.160 (talk) 14:48, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 3.7 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.  Chzz  ► 14:48, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Curb stomp
Our "Curb stomp" article page has been deleted a couple of times but now that a reasonable article on the topic exists at Curb-stomp, I would like Curb stomp to redirect to Curb-stomp. However, I'm apparently not allowed to create the Curb stomp article, presumably because of the deletion. Comet Tuttle (talk) 16:59, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * It's because it has been protected from re-creation (after all the deletions). However, the article Curb-stomp looks quite tenuous; it has no references at all, and may not meet the general notability guidelines - (I imagine you're familiar with the basic idea). Also, maybe helpful in this case is POPCULTURE.
 * It'd be possible to ask an admin to make a redirect, but at the moment, I'm not convinced it's a good idea; the article is in danger of deletion. Please try to add references to reliable sources.  Chzz  ► 17:05, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Since the article's been around since 2009, I'm going to assume it'll be here for a little while longer and create the redirect. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 19:12, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

|last= and |first= links in parameters
In Hurricane Cindy (1959), is there a way I can link David M. Roth in both the |last= and |first= parameters as one link, instead of two (e.g. Roth, David M. instead of Roth, David M.)? Thanks.  HurricaneFan 25  18:19, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Yep.  Chzz  ► 18:21, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

how does one report a wikipedia editor for poor performance?
dear wikipedia colleagues,

recently, i wrote a new wikipedia entry about a company. i researched the piece carefully. i cited numerous sources. i wrote it in a decidedly neutral manner (which, between the lines, was in fact quite "critical" if criticism encompasses implications of a company's performance).

to my great surprise, an editor slapped a "Speedy deletion" note on the entry. then, a second editor changed the "Speedy deletion" recommendation to "take to afd." (i have no idea what "afd" is, but hardly sounds better.)

i am in process of replying to both editors -- but i'm tired of slipshod efforts by editors (of which, in fact, i am one).

clearly, the initial editor did not read the article with any care. s/he accused the entry of "unambiguous advertising," a conclusion only a careless reader could reach. even if the editor/s stand down, wikipedia needs to encourage excellence at all times -- and discourage needless exchanges like the one i'm being pulled into.

please advise soonest what course/s of action i may take to have this issue addressed "higher up" in wikipedia.

with advance thanks. --Aboudaqn (talk) 18:22, 18 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Sounds like he is a deletionist, is that your point? If so, just click on the AfD tab (when it appears),(a template will appear at the top of the article) and argue your view. The article looks OK to me -so i'll add my tuppence worth.--Aspro (talk) 18:39, 18 November 2011 (UTC)


 * What needs to be addressed? The article was tagged for speedy deletion by one editor, and another challenged it by removing the tag. Happens all the time. – ukexpat (talk) 18:44, 18 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Personally, I think it would be better to tag the article with a Template:Advert. That way the article can be improved. If it can't, then would be the time to AfD it. Look upon this as just a learning exercise in Wiki-Lawyering --Aspro (talk) 18:51, 18 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Suppose this is another instance of a new editor having to run up the steep learning curve imposed by the existing and entrenched WP editor Mafia--Aspro (talk) 19:06, 18 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Just to clarify, in case you didn't already figure it out, "AfD" stands for "Articles for Deletion". It is less severe than speedy delete: AfD means that someone thinks it might be wise to delete the article and wishes to open a discussion on whether to do so, while speedy delete is for articles that are considered obviously and unarguably useless, such that it does not need to be discussed whether to delete it. -- LWG talk 04:33, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Aboudaqn, the speedy tagger was incorrect with the speedy nomination, get over it. And by "take to afd", I was declaring that the article was not in fact eligible for speedy deletion, and suggesting that if they feel it should be deleted, they should nominate it for discussion at WP:AFD-- Jac 16888 Talk 12:15, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

A few citation questions

 * 1) When using cite news's |publisher= and |agency= parameters, should I only link a news agency's name the first time if it is used multiple times in the citations for the article, or should I link it for all the citations it is used in?
 * 2) ↑ Same for cite web, except for |publisher= instead
 * 3) Should I link the author in every cite web if they are the same author, or only the first one?
 * 4) Should accessdates be used for cite journal?
 * 5) ↑ Same for cite book

Thanks,  HurricaneFan 25  18:32, 18 November 2011 (UTC)


 * If you are using the same citation more than once, you only need to use the citation template once, but use it within a named reference. All the details are at WP:NAMEDREFS. – ukexpat (talk) 18:40, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * No; I am using three different citations to three different news articles for cite news. (see Hurricane Cindy (1959) — to be specific, the Miami News references.)  HurricaneFan 25  18:49, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * All details about a particular source should be complete. The ordering of references and what references appear is not permanent after all. If you only keep all the extra details on one ref, if it is replaced, superseded, or pushed out of the original order, you lose information. John Doe (1990) should be as complete as the details in John Doe (1992), no matter if they were published by the same author, on the same journal, on the same page, (even on the same date), etc. if they are two separate papers/sources, you must not lump them together. However, if you are reusing the same refs all over again, see WP:NAMEDREFS.
 * All details about a particular source should be complete. The ordering of references and what references appear is not permanent after all. If you only keep all the extra details on one ref, if it is replaced, superseded, or pushed out of the original order, you lose information. John Doe (1990) should be as complete as the details in John Doe (1992), no matter if they were published by the same author, on the same journal, on the same page, (even on the same date), etc. if they are two separate papers/sources, you must not lump them together. However, if you are reusing the same refs all over again, see WP:NAMEDREFS.


 * Journals and books do not need accessdates, but cite web and cite news (online news articles) do. --  Obsidi ♠ n   Soul   18:53, 18 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Specifically on interwiki links in references, I don't see a problem with multiple links. We don't want to do it in the article because it'll clutter the article, but since references a) aren't in the article "proper" and b) should be independently complete, I don't see a problem with linking in each reference. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 19:08, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Naval Sea Cadet Corps
01. the new Executive Director, replacing Michael Ford, is Capt James E. Monahan.....

02. i corrected the text, but could not change the block in the upper right of the Wikipedia article.....

03. r.e. confirmation/corroboration, the USNSCC website has been updated with the new name.....

v/r D.A.Zittere Lt/NSCC  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 52.129.8.47 (talk) 19:33, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I made the update, thanks for bringing it to our attention.-- SPhilbrick  T  19:48, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

"Some content was originally published at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_fusion"
A website run by ecat.com supposedly involved with the Energy Catalyzer an alleged commercial cold fusion power source (yeah, right...) has acknowledged that it has sourced material from Wikipedia: "Some content was originally published at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_fusion". Am I right in thinking that this is a violation of Wikipedia contributors copyrights, in that it doesn't make clear which material this is, and doesn't make the material available on the same terms as the GFDL etc? If so, where is the appropriate place to raise this matter? AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:33, 18 November 2011 (UTC)


 * I am not a copyright expert, but I believe the first question to answer would be has the material been copied 1:1 from Wikipedia? If that is the case, I think attribution to Wikipedia is required. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 19:46, 18 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Is this the page:  ? If so, it is probable Ok since he makes the acknowledgement on the same page. Thanks for bringing this to my attention though – I have been looking for somewhere to invest my life savings in something that will make me a fortune (cough !).--Aspro (talk) 19:49, 18 November 2011 (UTC)


 * I think the point is that, as I understand it, material copied (as opposed to paraphrased or summarised) would not only need acknowledgement, but would also have to be released on the same terms as Wikipedia material. AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:58, 18 November 2011 (UTC)


 * That's correct. I haven't checked whether they copied any content from Wikipedia 1:1, but if they did I think this would be a violation of Wikipedia's licensing terms, as I don't think their disclaimer at is compatible with our license. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 20:03, 18 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Some content seem to be copied almost word-for-word from our Energy Catalyzer article (see the 'patents' section) - and note that they are citing the wrong article for this material. AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:15, 18 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Violations for Cold fusion and Energy Catalizer. The boldface is not everything as several instances of whole sentences are copied as is or closely paraphrased. ECAT is indeed in violation of the Wikipedia licensing terms, because while they attribute to Wikipedia (incorrect attribution, they should attribute to Wikipedia contributors and link the history of the article), they do not share-alike. A friendly e-mail could be sent to them asking for compliance with either the CC-BY-SA or the GFDL; if they do not comply, the copyright holders of the work, e.g. the editors of the relevant articles (and especially of the relevant material), could send a DMCA takedown notice and/or take further actions at their discretion. CharlieEchoTango (talk) 20:41, 18 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks - it looks clear-cut enough to me. I don't know who should send the e-mail, but it certainly won't be me - there's no way they are getting my e-mail address! AndyTheGrump (talk) 21:32, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * For compatibility reasons text on Wikipedia is co-licensed under GFDL, which I believe does not require a derivative work to be free licensed. —teb728 t c 21:56, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, it does. Both the GFDL and CC-BY-SA require copies and derivatives to be freely licensed, either under an identical one (per CC-BY-SA) or the same one (per GFDL). CharlieEchoTango (talk) 22:10, 18 November 2011 (UTC)


 * OK. Now, can somebody suggest what should actually be done about this? Or even better, do it themselves? I'm somewhat involved in the E-Cat article, and as such am probably not the best person to contact ecat.com - and as I said earlier, I'm certainly not prepared to give them my e-mail address. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:51, 19 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Okay, ✅. See the message here. Couldn't find a proper e-mail address either on their website, through google, or through whois, so I used the form on their website... CharlieEchoTango (talk) 16:25, 19 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Well done! Would 30 days be a reasonable period of grace to let them update their site?--Aspro (talk) 16:56, 19 November 2011 (UTC)


 * A bit more than reasonable, 10 business days would do. There is however not much else we can do if they do not comply, save for the contributors whose copyright are infringed to take some form of action (e.g. formal notice, DMCA takedown notice, etc). Probably not worth the hassle though... CharlieEchoTango (talk) 17:13, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, CharlieEchoTango. As for further action, obviously this is down to contributors, but I can't help feeling that some might be unhappy to see their work being used for commercial purposes by a concern involved in this less-than-transparent enterprise. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:38, 19 November 2011 (UTC)


 * These editors may appreciate being made aware of  CharlieEchoTango email on the talk pages of Cold fusion, etc.--Aspro (talk) 18:54, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Facebook / Twitter links for easy posting of your donation appeal?
Dear Jimmy

I hear you. Could you please provide on your appeal page we click on, an idiot proof (I'm a blonde) clickable icon so we can link the "story" of your wiki donation appeal to our facebook and twitter pages? I think networked around the globe using social networking is a key to greater success for your appeal.

Kind regards

Robbie — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.0.59.207 (talk) 21:30, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Searches: How to make search of plural go to same place as search of singular
Putting red light camera into the search box gets you an article entitled Red Light Cameras. Good!

But putting red light cameras (the plural) into the search box gets you a different article not specifically about red light cameras.

Is there a way to make the plural get readers the same article as the singular?

Einsteininmyownmind (talk) 22:01, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I have changed the redirect to what seems to be a slightly more plausible target.  Я ehevkor  ✉  22:05, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

can the page be expanded so the left hand column shrinks?
Is it possible to expand the portion of content so the entire page is utilized? One possibility may involve shrinking the left 30% of the page which seems to be a dedicated column. It is unclear why this column exists and makes the reading of content on wiki pages more challenging and less rewarding.

Is there a reason the column is included? Is it formatted to allow for advertising? Can my request be implemented?

Thanks!

Pgmac01 (talk) 22:18, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Hello! Adding  to your javascript page should take care of it; see User:PleaseStand/Hide Vector sidebar. You can also choose other skins from your preference panel. I hope this helps! CharlieEchoTango (talk) 22:23, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Signpost missed
Why didn't I receive the 2011-11-14 issue of the signpost to User talk:Toshio Yamaguchi/Signpost? I am still subscribed at Wikipedia Signpost/Subscribe. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 22:35, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I can't see any reason for this. I suggest you post at User talk:MZMcBride, since that's the person who maintains the delivery bot. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:44, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 09:10, 19 November 2011 (UTC)