Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2011 October 13

= October 13 =

MfD question
I nominated a user page for deletion (using Twinkle). It looks like everything is in place, but Wikipedia doesn't seem to think so as it has a little box telling me to do more ("Maintenance use only"), but everything it says to do has been done. Plus, all the redlinks are incorrect as the pages do exist. I've noticed other problems with AfDs similar to this (redlinks), but not as bad, and I don't understand it. I tried clearing my browser cache - didn't do a bit of good. What is the underlying problem?--Bbb23 (talk) 02:33, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Looks fine now. If the red link works, it is usually a result of caching by the servers. It should sort itself out on its own in a short time, but if you want to make sure the listing is correct, you can purge the page. To do so you add  at the end of the url. For the helpdesk it would be . Once purged, the link should turn blue and the error notice should go away. (you can also add a purge button to your interface at Special:Preferences)  Monty  845  03:03, 13 October 2011 (UTC)


 * You did right. The maintenance part in small print is always written by mfd. The redlinks is a known issue with Twinkle caused by the speed of the Twinkle operations (our software had not registered the MfD page existed when the template code was originally rendered on the user page). It can be fixed by purging the page displaying redlinks. I have done this. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:08, 13 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Ah, never did an MfD before. I've added the purge link as Monty suggested. Thanks to both of you.--Bbb23 (talk) 03:11, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Wide self-propomoting links added
Hi, A user is adding wide set of links to his software Contributions/Jwz, mostly under "see also" since he has a bio article Jamie Zawinski and an article on his software XScreenSaver. I suggested it was spam and don't know what policy applies, so I thought I'd add a note here for others to judge. SockPuppetForTomruen (talk) 02:37, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Lost !
HI, I'm trying to write the Vicky David Gallery page, to explain a little who they are and what they do. But I got the message that my page must be deleted because it is about a company but I don't understand what the issue is; it doesn't sell a product or doesn't do commercial ..

Thanks in advance, Best regards, Adrien — Preceding unsigned comment added by A.nejko (talk • contribs) 03:36, 13 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Vicky David Gallery has now been deleted twice. The first time was because: "‎A7: No explanation of the subject's significance (real person, animal, organization, or web content)".  The second time because: "G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion".  The gallery only opened last month (source) and just because the gallery already has a Facebook page, a Twitter page and a Flickr page, does not mean it is automatically entitled to an encyclopedia article.  You need to cite reliable sources which show why the gallery is notable to Wikipedia's standards of notability. Remember, this is an encyclopedia which has articles about notable subjects and is not a means to promote your business.  Astronaut (talk) 15:23, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Move article back mainspace from incubator
Hi, could someone please move this article: Anna Bond back to mainspace? It was moved to incubator since principal photography had not yet begun thereby not meeting WP:NFF. Now it has started, so please move it back to mainspace. Thanks. -  Niri M / ನಿರಿ   04:20, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Done. You should have been able to do it yourself given your number of edits and time on Wikipedia, but I'm happy to move it.Naraht (talk) 13:18, 13 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Naraht! Could you also please remove the Incubator template from the mainspace article? I would've done it, but considering my edits on the article, I thought it's best someone else assess and do it. Thanks again, cheers! -  Niri M / ನಿರಿ   15:56, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * ps: I'm removing the resolved tag until then.
 * The removal of the incubator template isn't really a controversial thing (my guess is a bot would come by and do it eventually), I deleted the template, added the incu-grad template to the help. I'll let you decide if the resolved tag should be readded. :) Naraht (talk) 16:05, 13 October 2011 (UTC)


 * That was quick, thanks!! Brought a smile after a long hard day. Have a nice day ahead. -  Niri M / ನಿರಿ   16:32, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

How to create page?
How a page containing info about individual or website can be uploaded? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jagmohan Phutela (talk • contribs) 06:03, 13 October 2011 (UTC)


 * See Your first article. After you read that you can try Article wizard. Come back here if you have any further questions. You can also ask me directly on my talk page at User talk:Toshio Yamaguchi if you need help with something. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 09:12, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

VNUS
its a procedure done for the treatment of vericose vein can u tell me the origin of the tern "VNUS"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.186.21.199 (talk) 07:29, 13 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Searching via Google yields several results as in the following search: VNUS . Other than that, the people at Reference desk/Science might be able to better help you, since this help desk can only answer questions about using or editing Wikipedia. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 09:37, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Uterus-like mass
I had written yesterday a new article entitled: "Uterus-like mass". I saved it and saw the preview. It looked as if all OK. Now I can find it nowhere on Wikipedia. What happened? (Clafo). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clafo (talk • contribs) 07:33, 13 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I can see from Special:Contributions/Clafo that your account has no contributions other than your post here at the help desk. Did you write it under the same account? If that's the case I fear nothing has been saved. You say "I saved it and saw the preview". You have to click the button to actually save an edit. If you click only  without also hitting  afterwards, nothing will be saved. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 09:26, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

I have written a new article entitled "Uterus-like mass (Endomyometriosis)", a modified article of the previous "Uterus-like mass" written yesterday, and I have saved it. It looked as if the new article had been acknowledged and included in the encyclopedia but the text appears disarranged and partly lost while the references to the article are sound. What happened? (Clafo). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clafo (talk • contribs) 13:20, 13 October 2011 (UTC)


 * The bad formatting is because you have left blank spaces at the beginning of lines. You haven't actually used any references in the Wikipedia sense, so please read WP:REF, as well as reading WP:Tutorial and WP:Wikify.  You'll see that your attempt has already been tagged for speedy deletion. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:37, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

[File:|frameless|alt=]] above photo in infobox
Hi,

Ive just added to images to the info box for the article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renzo_Rosso. Above the main photograph and the photograph of the signature, there is the text "]", which I cant seem to get rid off.

Ive tried to read all info for adding photos and asked several friends in programming, but cant understand whats wrong.

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wellescorp (talk • contribs) 10:23, 13 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I fixed it. You can take a look at this diff to see what I did. Infoboxes (unfortunately) are not formatted in a consistent manner and many employ different formattings. The documentation for this one is at Template:Infobox fashion designer. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 10:32, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

How can I go into a random article within a certain category?
I would like to find some random plants for my project--202.153.93.50 (talk) 13:53, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * This is a feature we do not offer. Although many people have suggested it over the years, the Wikimedia Foundation does not have enough programmers to create all the features that have been requested. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  14:26, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * There seems to be an external tool here to do the job. If you click this link a few times you should see some random plant articles. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:33, 13 October 2011 (UTC)


 * There is a gadget for this at User talk:GregU/randomlink.js. However you need to register an account to install and use it and it will only be usable while you are logged in. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 14:30, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Warkany syndrome - Arcadian
How can I contact your contributor named Arcadian? I have a son with Warkany syndrome and would like to get in touch with him. Thanks Luiza - Portugal — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.193.157.171 (talk) 13:53, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * If you create a Wikipedia account, when signed in you can click on "email this user" on his talk page. Rojomoke (talk) 14:14, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * First of all, I remind you of the usual "Wikipedia cannot give medical advice". Instead go see your doctor.
 * When it comes to contacting Wikipedia contributors, I can think of two ways: 1. You could leave a message on User talk:Arcadian; though take note of the information right at the top of that page about whether they will actually reply and also consider that they haven't made an edit since last month so you might not get a quick response. 2. Alternatively, you could email them by following the link in the toolbox when you visit User talk:Arcadian (the toolbox is usually on the left of the screen, but I suspect you might only get a 'E-mail this user' link if you have signed up as a Wikipedia user and given your e-mail address).   Astronaut (talk) 15:00, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

railway in stone mills (moscow road)
It was brought to my attention there was a railway and station earlier on Moscow road in stone mills township. Most specifically a station and railway line on Moscow Road. WE currently live on Moscow Road and would like to know more details. Where, When, locations & dates specifically. Is there a detailed map and or pictures of these earlier events and places??

W. Labron — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.102.79.227 (talk) 14:05, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  14:25, 13 October 2011 (UTC)


 * But if you do post a question at the Reference Desk, it would be courteous to the people who might answer you to mention which country you are in. --ColinFine (talk) 23:29, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Dennis Meyer
Dennis Meyer has been married # times. Christina, Carol and his present wife. The information should be corrected — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.112.30.94 (talk) 16:39, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Do you have reliable sources for this? -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  17:33, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Where is the feedback page for the beta mobile site? Might I suggest not using javascript until its presence in the mobile browser is proven?
Title says it all -

Is this the right place to discuss the beta mobile site? If not, where?

The beta mobile site looks cool, and I like it. But the show/hide buttons are powered by javascript -- and when javascript is off or disabled, clicking the show buttons doesn't actually show anything. I would suggest that the page be rendered with all the sections showing. Then javascript fired off by an early event can then hide what ought to be hidden. The end result is that javascript enabled browsers get the experience I think you are aiming for, and those of us that must survive without javascript can still see the entire article.

Thanks!

216.82.182.33 (talk) 16:59, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

AK-47
In the AK-47 the Albanian soldier with AK-47 has died three months ago. Please remove the picture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Albaniantrojan (talk • contribs) 17:07, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Why? There are tens of thousands of pictures in Wikipedia of dead persons; and besides, that picture shows half-a-dozen people. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  17:36, 13 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Albaniantrojan changed File:Albanian soldier with AK47.jpg from an image of one to many soldiers. In you wrote "If you believe in god please remove the picture". Is there some kind of religious taboo about pictures of dead people in Albania? PrimeHunter (talk) 17:57, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not censored. -- Red rose64 (talk) 18:28, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * My money's on Albaniantrojan being related (family-wise) to the soldier in the image, and s/he wants it taken down out of respect to him. — Jeremy v^_^v Components:V S M 19:28, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Problem in js
Hello, I wrote a tool for elections but I have problem. When I use this tool it gives me "leave-Edit warning message" I don't want it. How can I submit edits of everyone using the tool without this warning? Ladsgroupبحث 17:37, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You might want to post this at WP:VPT - if this is an old script, there may be problems, due to the latest MediaWiki upgrade earlier this month - many scripts have had issues.  Ron h jones (Talk) 19:02, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Using that method of firing the edit form's submit event, I don't think you can handle edit conflicts. If you use the API instead, you can check for edit conflicts and retry. — Bility (talk) 19:27, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * @Bility: Problem is not edit conflict. If you change an editform and want to close the page. you have an warning says unsaved changes will be lost (such as games!). but now this happens when the tool wants to save editform Ladsgroupبحث 20:25, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Cannot view Wikipedia in Vietnamese
To Whom It May Concern

Dear Sir/Madam,

Recently, when I look up something in Wikipedia and want to see the result in Vietnamese, there's some sort of error. The result appears for about just 1 or 2 seconds, and then disappear. Could you kindly find out the cause of this problem and fix it. Thank you very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.234.190.131 (talk) 19:24, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Which page(s) is this happening on? -- Red rose64 (talk) 19:30, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You may want to bring this up at the meta page where technical issues are discussed. (I can confirm the Vietnamese-language version does all of a sudden hang and throw up a white screen after a few moments, just from clicking the interwiki link for this page.) Nobody here is really in any position to resolve technical issues on vi.wp. — Jeremy v^_^v Components:V S M 19:34, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Just found that it happens at vi:Việt Nam. -- Red rose64 (talk) 19:34, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * It's also happening at vi:Wikipedia:Bàn giúp đỡ. It seems to be attempting to load a new page, from the looks of it. I don't think there's anything we can do locally; it looks like an issue with Vietnamese Wikipedia itself, and so this needs to be kicked to Meta or Bugzilla. — Jeremy v^_^v Components:V S M 20:01, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * It works for me in all four tested browsers and both when logged in and logged out. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:10, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Moving comment of another user at a third users talk page to a new section
Am I allowed to add a section heading above another users comment on a third users talk page and then add an own comment below that first comment? It looks somewhat like this:

==Heading== Blablablablablablablabla --Editor1 :reply --TalkPageOwner ::reply --Editor1 :::reply --TalkPageOwner ::::comment --Editor2

I want to change it to

==Heading== Blablablablablablablabla --Editor1 :reply --TalkPageOwner ::reply --Editor1 :::reply --TalkPageOwner

==Heading 2== comment --Editor2 comment --MySignature

Is that allowed? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 21:47, 13 October 2011 (UTC)


 * The indentation of Editor2 indicates it was a comment on the existing discussion. In that case it seems inappropriate for you to add a section heading before the comment on somebody elses user talk page. Consider making a level 3 === Subheading === below Editor2's post instead if you think the discussion will diverge and evolve. If Editor2's post had nothing to do with the existing discussion and it just looked like they forgot to make a section heading for their post then you might do as you suggest but you should mention in your own post that you added the heading. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:34, 14 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I just posted directly below the other editors comment. The editor in question retired a while ago, so he might never see that comment anyway, I just felt like posting a message on his talk page. Thanks PrimeHunter. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 01:11, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Tagging pictures
I'm uploaded a picture onto my page and it requires a tag.

The picture is of a judge of Utah from the Court of Appeals, and I got the picture from the Utah Courts website.

I looked through all the tags and I can't seem to find an appropriate one.

Which tag would suit the picture I have of a Utah judge?

Hannie ChangHannie Chang (talk) 22:00, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Unless all the content of that website is explicitly labelled as being released to the public domain, or licensed under a license we can accept, then the picture must go (assuming the judge is alive). -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  23:45, 13 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I can't see such a release or statement of a compatible licence at the website in question, but I may be missing something. BencherliteTalk 00:09, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
 * No waiver of copyright at the "Disclaimer and Privacy Policy" page. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  00:14, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Why would it matter whether the judge is alive? It might make it more difficult to obtain a free image once the subject is dead, but it would still have to be proved that no free equivalent is available just to satisfy the first criterion of WP:NFCC.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:11, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You know what I meant; the first criterion! Since the subject is alive, and the website has no waiver, I've deleted the image. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  00:14, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
 * There go da judge.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:18, 14 October 2011 (UTC)