Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2011 October 26

= October 26 =

Sick of the green words and the popups
IM SICK OF THE GREEN WORDS AND THE POPS UP THEY BRING IF YOUR USING YOUR MOUSE AND MOVE OVER THE WORDS, HOW CAN I REMOVE YOUR SITE AND THIS CRAP FROM MY PC. NOT ONLY ME IM ASKING FOR ALL MY FRIENDS WHO NOW HATE YOUR INFO LINKS IN ARTICLES. AGAIN, HOW DO I BLOCK YOUR SITE FROM INTERFERING WITH MY PC — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.32.10.165 (talk) 03:14, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You have malware/a virus. Whatever it is you are experiencing it is not a being caused by Wikipedia—you do realize you are posting this at Wikipedia the free encyclopedia right? I ask because people sometimes read an article here about some subject and then think we are the official site of that topic when we only have an article about the topic. We do have a computing reference desk. If you describe the symptoms you're experiencing more specifically, there may be people who can diagnose the problem and suggest a removal tool or other solution. However, I know you think you had a reason to SHOUT, but now that you know that your anger is directed at the wrong target, I suggest if you do ask such a question you take your caps lock off.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:59, 26 October 2011 (UTC)


 * It's hard to tell when the poster didn't specify where "THE WORDS" are but this may be a normal feature of whatever the poster is looking at. Where are the affected words? At a specific website? PrimeHunter (talk) 10:40, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

http://www.heraldic.org/heraldry.htm
I looked up about heraldry and could not find anything about this site? It seems like a good site to me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.187.247.109 (talk) 06:06, 26 October 2011 (UTC)


 * This properly belongs at Reliable sources/Noticeboard. A quick check on "His Eminence, Prince John, The Grand Duke of Avram, The Cardinal Archbishop and The Earl Marshall" gives us Grand Duchy of Avram, which is apparently a micronation created by the Grand Duke. This is not a reliable site. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  talk 11:17, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

editor removing article claiming copyright issues which are not correct
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Bruce_Springsteen#Politics_and_Activism_section.2FBruce_Springsteen_sings_Born_Intact_-_Circumcision_Sing-along_-_Parody_lyrics_for_Born_to_Run_.28Live.29

(Redacted) This is the source of the cited material I posted in the Politics and Activism section of the Bruce Springsteen article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Springsteen

It is clear that this video has been online at YouTube since Feb 4, 2009 with 13,034 views and is not in violation of any copyrights otherwise YouTube would have removed it. But one editor has refused to let it stay deleting it every time for various reasons. Please advise. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Bruce_Springsteen#Politics_and_Activism_section.2FBruce_Springsteen_sings_Born_Intact_-_Circumcision_Sing-along_-_Parody_lyrics_for_Born_to_Run_.28Live.29 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.34.144.69 (talk) 06:26, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I have responded at the talk page in more depth. In short, this is a patent copyvio, BLP concerns are raised and keeping it in would be undue weight.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:40, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Where to get feedback on bulk-creation of redirects
I have a plan to create many redirects (up to 1300) in line with Template:R_from_alternative_language for the Māori language based on an official source. The creation would be manual, but relatively speedy, so I'd discussing first rather than being WP:BOLD. The plan is outlined with a sample of redirects at User:Stuartyeates/Ngā Ūpoko Tukutuku. I've already talked about it at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject New Zealand. Where else should I ask for feedback about such a plan? Stuartyeates (talk) 08:48, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I think you can go ahead and do it, but you may want to leave a note on the adminstrator's noticeboard just to give a larger audience a heads up. TN X Man  19:11, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Burke
I am the subject of this entry. I have no problem with it all but refers to my books and has not been updated since the publication of the most recent work, "The 9/11 Wars" in September 2011. If it is possible to mention this for the sake of current accuracy that would be good. Here is a link to the book itself to prove it exists: http://www.penguin.co.uk/nf/Book/BookDisplay/0,,9781846142819,00.html Here is a link to an extract: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/22/9-11-wars-war-on-terror Here are links to some reviews. There are many others but these are broadly representative: The Economist: http://www.economist.com/node/21528225 In the Sunday Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/8734817/The-911-Wars-by-Jason-Burke-review.html On Foreign Policy.com: http://afpak.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/09/19/the_911_wars

And to two interviews: http://www.newstatesman.com/books/2011/09/interview-arab-global-events http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2011/09/09/jason-burke-its-not-the-w_n_955904.html

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.68.79.19 (talk) 10:57, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Added book-- ♫GoP♫ T C N 12:48, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

retrieve
How do i retrieve a phone # ? afer i reseted my phone — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.236.250.247 (talk) 11:15, 26 October 2011 (UTC)


 * You didn't mention which phone it is or what phone company you have and we have no way of telling this from a post here so I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 3.7 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:27, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Query on copyright deletion...
Hi, I'm a newb and after seeing an article on wikipedia's role in documenting and disseminating culture a few hours ago on ABC TV in Australia, I'd like to create a page on the 'Korazy Collection'. Trouble is that the Korazy collection is very much about knock off Korean animation art -posters to be precise- and I couldn't be bothered going to the trouble of writing an article and posting images if someone is going to delete them on the grounds that they are 'copyright infringements'. Heck, that's the whole point of the collection for much of Korean animation was built upon liberal plagiarism in a DEVELOPING country.

So um, are you going to enforce Western intellectual property ideals onto the Third World? I mean, plagiarism isn't permitted in modern day South Korea but it sure was in the 70s+80s. How else will this cultural history be told if the likes of wiki enforces a myopic policy on a particular cultural plagiarism of the past?


 * 1) Don't want to make an effort if it isn't appreciated.
 * 2) The Korazy Collection is the only collection of these posters held outside of Korea and contains posters that are the only example known to exist. There are only 4 or 5 collections of these posters in the world and the other collections are held by museums in Korea.

There has been a link to the Korazy website in the Korean Animation stub on wiki for about 4 years now.

Cheers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.161.25.153 (talk) 12:43, 26 October 2011 (UTC)


 * No, Wikipedia doesn't impose ideals onto the Third World or anyone else. However, we do follow the laws that apply to Wikipedia which, alas, are more restrictive on copyright matters than I would prefer.  Jim.henderson (talk) 13:41, 26 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Writing the article should not be a problem as long as you write it in your own words. If you want to add images of the posters you can do that as long as they are supported by the text and the images are needed to show something that you can't really add to the text.  There might be some possibility of using the images under fair use.   GB fan 13:47, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Please also see WP:YFA. You will need to start by showing that the subject is notable, by citing the multiple independent reliable sources which have discussed the subject. --ColinFine (talk) 22:29, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

My newly created article about David Kenny has disappeared before I got a chance to add to it
I created a new  page about David Kenny CEO of  Akamai and board member of Yahoo!. I was looking for information to add to it when my article vanished without a trace. I checked my user talk to see if anyone notified me of a deletion but there was nothing there. I estimate the article was on Wikipedia for no more than a couple of minutes before it disappeared. Ottawahitech (talk) 13:07, 26 October 2011 (UTC)


 * It is always best to ensure that the article meets Wikipedia's criteria before publishing it. You'll see from David Kenny(CEO) that it was deleted under speedy citerion A1.  As the notes there say, it may be better to develop the page as a subpage in your user space, and then you can move it to article namespace when it is ready. If you do try again, it probably ought to have a space between "Kenny" and "(CEO)". - David Biddulph (talk) 13:18, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I restored it, A1 did not appy it is easy to see that David Kenny is CEO Akamai from the context. GB fan 13:21, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * As per Akamai Technologies, the CEO is not Kenny, but Paul L. Sagan; Kenny is listed as the president. The same on its official website.-- ♫GoP♫ T C N 13:31, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * In reply to Biddulph: it is not clear to me how one can tell when an article is speedily deleted, let alone for what reason? Ottawahitech (talk) 13:41, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * If you try to go to the file and it isn't there, such as during the period when David Kenny(CEO) had been deleted, the link becomes a redlink, and clicking on the redlink tells you the deletion history (including the deleting admin's summary of the reason), and gives advice. Otherwise you can look at the deletion log. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:59, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

canceling my sirius radio
How do I cancel my sirius radio? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patcassels (talk • contribs) 13:28, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 3.7 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. GB fan 13:37, 26 October 2011 (UTC)


 * do u listen to the howard stern show, he is vulgar but sometimes he makes me laugh :-), i will haVE YOUR subscription if you dont want it (just kidding that was a joke :-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.228.90.14 (talk) 17:07, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Search box help?
Hi,

Why doesn't my new page show up when I search for it?

ZodKneelsFirst (talk) 15:45, 26 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Which page? Much Ado About Nothing (2012 film) shows up for me;  do you have another new article? - David Biddulph (talk) 15:53, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

No it's just that one. The page is there, but it doesn't show up in the search box. I just get the main one for the play itself, and a link to ...(film). — Preceding unsigned comment added by ZodKneelsFirst (talk • contribs) 16:03, 26 October 2011 (UTC)


 * It shows up for me. I bet that feature only updates its database once a day or maybe a couple times a day.  It's likely not automatically updated.  Dismas |(talk) 19:36, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

I deleted cookies and I've got it now. Thanks for your help.

About Lord Mahalakshmi & Kuberan
Hi,

I have question which is eating in my mind for a long time,

Who discover the money.

If the money was discovered by man they why we represent the god for seat of wealth in Hindu?

Also there is a true statement " MONEY was dicovered by MAN is an absolute Truth" Then why we represent the god for wealth or else pure money.

Kindly help me to get the clarity on this...............

Regards, Ar Vijayaraghav (Redacted) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.113.238.132 (talk) 15:49, 26 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Roger (talk) 15:56, 26 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Money was invented, rather than discovered. I suggest you read our article on the history of money.--Shantavira|feed me 16:57, 26 October 2011 (UTC)


 * you should not give out ur email address, even if you are from india. the reason is because people can send you cyberbullying message and trolling and spam and other undesirable things, so in the future, please only share email with friends, family and business associates. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.228.90.14 (talk) 16:59, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

cleanup Ancient Mesopotamia template question
User:Zoeperkoe has removed the Ancient Mesopotamia template from 27 articles I was working on, citing the following reason: - "should not be in articles to which it does not link." Where does this arbitrary policy come from? I included the template because it provided all the obvious links relating to the Mesopotamian dynasty I was working on.BigEars42 (talk) 17:07, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The best idea is to discuss with the user who removed the template. If you are unable to reach a solution with them, you can ask other users to offer a third opinion. I hope this helps. TN X Man  18:18, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Romantic painter
we are searching for a romantic painter ( may be Hungarian ) painting landscapes around 1866, name is L. Stephan, thanks in advance for help LW. Buennagel mail: (Redacted) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.176.194.54 (talk) 17:27, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Symbol_move_vote.svg Have you tried the section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia.  For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: [ click here] . I hope this helps.  TN X Man  18:14, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Delray Beach
is there a telephone number that i can call to reach someone to talk to so that i can get some info about prices and schedules from delray beach to miami? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.109.55.53 (talk) 19:40, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 3.7 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. TN X Man  19:45, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Cant Find Page I was Making
Hello,

I'm new to making Wiki pages but want to get started. I am having troubles finding a page I began to create a while ago. I want to continue working on it but am unable to locate my draft. It was not published yet, so it should be somewhere where I can edit it before hand.

Also, if anyone can post a link that would help me to get started on the process of being a wiki editor, I would appreciate that very much.

Thanks in advance for any responses.

--Zipdoof (talk) 19:46, 26 October 2011 (UTC)Josh


 * Please tell us the title of the page you were working on. Your contributions log shows that posting here is the only thing your username has ever done on WP. Did you do it before you created your username? Roger (talk) 19:52, 26 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I guess you are talking about User:Zipdoof/First focus learning systems. The page was inappropriate for wikipedia and was deleted.  The page was an advertisement.  GB fan 20:15, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

How do I add geo-coordinates to a location?
I found the template, but it's not clear where and how to get the coordinates. Pkeets (talk) 20:06, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You could use a GPSr and go to the location. You could also use a program like Google Earth and find the location you are looking for and it will give you the coordinates.  GB fan 20:20, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

See also WikiProject Geographical coordinates. Jim.henderson (talk) 20:36, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Photo
How do i size a wiki page photo correctly so on facebook it shows up perfectly fit into the icon box? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.71.17.177 (talk) 21:26, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You don't. We do not take into consideration at all how Facebook, which we are completely unaffiliated with, will display our content as to all aspects of article building.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:52, 26 October 2011 (UTC)


 * [[Image:Symbol move vote.svg|20px]] Facebook community pages may incorporate content from Wikipedia— such use complies with Wikipedia policies on reuse of content. We at Wikipedia have no control over how the content is included nor can we help to remove it. Facebook does have a topic on Community pages and profile connections on their Help Center. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:19, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Carlos Alhinho
I'm the son of Carlos Alhinho and i would like to improve his page uploading his foto and correcting some items. How can i do that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tugaverdiano (talk • contribs) 23:02, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Any corrections you make need to have reliable sources which you cite so that everyone reading the article can confirm everything that is written in it. To upload a picture, you need to actually have taken the photo yourself with your own camera.  If you have, then read Uploading images.  Also, since you are related to the subject of the article, please read Conflict of interest.  -- Jayron  32  23:05, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

After a page is split and the original becomes redundant.
I just split List of compositions by Johannes Brahms into List of compositions by Johannes Brahms by opus number and List of compositions by Johannes Brahms by genre. What should I put on the original article to direct the users to change the links on the source pages? - Gus (T, C) 2011-10-26 23:19Z


 * Remove the redundant text, and replace it with main or see also or another appropriate hatnote. -- Jayron  32  23:23, 26 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks. - Gus (T, C) 2011-10-26 23:58Z

What is the 'Article of the Day' editor's fascination with Australian warships?
Here we go again. Almost every month the 'Article of the Day' offers up yet another Australian warship. Is this guy trying to win a bet? I'm a 20-year military vet so it ain't being a pacifist or otherwise. But don't you agree that the 'Article of the Day' feature should be as diverse as Wikipedia is? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.160.58.243 (talk) 23:46, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Featured articles are articles that have gone through the nomination process, being judged against the Wikipedia:Featured article criteria, and passed that rigorous insopection to be deemed some of our best content. Once an article passes it can be nominated to appear on the main page as today's featured article. What all this means is that what funnels articles to the front page is predominantly the sweat of one or more volunteers to write a great article and pursue it through a very difficult process to be eligible to appear on the main page. Few articles make it. Accordingly, if someone or a group with a particular topic writing interest keeps consistently passing the process by dint of effort, then what you will see on the main page will be a high percentage of article in that person or group's topic area. They do try to intersperse articles from different topics, different countries and so on to provide variety, but if someone is willing to write twenty awesome articles on species of voles that become featured and are nominated, you are going to see a lot of different types of voles on the main page over a relatively short period of time.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:19, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd say it is a little bit more than that. Warships, particularly 20th/21st century warships from 1st world nations are relatively easy to fulfill all of the requirements for a Featured Article. There are photographs, there are good and reliable primary and secondary sources, they are relatively non-controversial, templates exist. (Those aren't the exact requirements, but it is a good start).Naraht (talk) 10:07, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Alot of subjects fulfil those criteria -many biology articles for a start. Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:11, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

If you'd like to help with diversifying, you can help in several ways: Cheers, PS This makes a change from people moaning about cricket, video game or hurricane articles on Main Page - in my experience, they're the usual gripes. --Dweller (talk) 10:17, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Participate in WP:FAC, the process that leads articles to Featured Status
 * 2) Participate at WP:TFA/R, the process that selects some of the articles that appear on main page
 * 3) (Best of all) work up an article to featured quality. See WP:WIAFA and, humbly, my essay: User:Dweller/Dweller, on Featured Article Candidates


 * Indeed. Seconded. Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:11, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Heh, warships have basically become the new hurricanes. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 20:28, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * HMS Hurricane would kill two birds with one stone, but is not yet featured... BencherliteTalk 22:06, 27 October 2011 (UTC)